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Thought it was about time to get a thread running, initially for potential entries, supporters etc.
These are the ERC potential entries so far for weekend two only - just one grid but the current intention is practice and 1 scratch race Friday, two handicaps Saturday and Sunday, the second on each day to be series points scoring rounds.
Grids jointly sponsored by Arrow Wheels and Auckland Engineering Supplies, our usual series sponsors, for which we are very grateful. This only gives them the naming rights of course, but like Dale (HMC), we'll probably be looking to get posters done.
1 Alan Ferguson - BMW M8
3 John Dennehy – Aston Martin Vantage
19 Kerry Chadderton – Porsche
20 Geoff Sparkes - Triumph
21 Bryce Platt – Porsche
22 Peter Robinson - BMW
28 Bruce Manon - Escort (Mike Sexton's car)
29 Mike Lucas – Datsun 240Z
34 Graeme Park - Porsche
42 Des Redgwell - Volvo 242
44 Derek Moore - Jaguar XJS
47 Gary Baildon – BMW
48 Ricky Cooper – Datsun Z
49 Chris Browne – Alfa
67 Paul Kendrick - Porsche
69 Dennis McConnell – Escort
70 Ray Green – Marcos
71 Adam Jones - Escort
75 Craig Howser - Escort
83 John Honore - Ferrari
87 David Brace – BMW
93 Ivan Selak - Escort
115 Chris Barendregt - Porsche
120 John Munro – Jaguar
135 Don Roy - MGB V8
158 Tony Vujonovich – Perana Capri
185 John Nuthall - Alfa
231 John Hudson – BMW
233 Max van Maanen - Alfa
240 Earl Cruickshank – Datsun 240Z
246 Tony Olissoff – Alfa
253 Gerry Hodges - BMW 635
280 Ken Williams - Mercedes
333 Rogan Hampson – Ohlsen Cobra
502 Steve Cowie – Alfa
616 Dave Mallin - MGB V8
635 Zac Lawrence - BMW 635
739 Grant Kern – MGB V8
865 Johan van Heerden - Renault
866 Frans Cronje - Renault
910 Simon Mills - Alfa
944 Paul Madeley - Porsche
76 Craig Sawyer – Vauxhall – provisional entrant
Any remaining expressions of interest may be held for a week or two to give those overseas or away, time to get in touch and to try and maintain variety.
72 Karl Sentch - Datsun Z - pending 01
242 Roman Schiff - Datsun Z - pending 02
6 or ? Mal Clark - Rover or BMW - possible
Updated 13/10/14
Kiwiboss
10-07-2014, 08:21 PM
I think the poster idea is great Ray, not only to lift the profile of your group but also the profile of the actual event, the public just luv giveaways, it puts a smile on their face and possibly makes them return again which we all want don't we!! entertainment dollar is hard fort these days!!
Dale M
Steve Holmes
10-08-2014, 12:28 AM
Neat photo Ray.
Do you have a decent contact for posters Dale - or does anyone else for that matter?
I was thinking of a gridded design with a pic of every car and a white space underneath each pic for autographs. A poster for each driver as a memento as well as the public.
We may be too old now for F1 glory but it helps the ego to autograph anything when you are a nobody, a never-has-been or never-will-be!
I'd also like an embroidered badge (like the TACCOC Whenuapai meetings) to be done.
Kiwiboss
10-08-2014, 08:05 AM
Do you have a decent contact for posters Dale - or does anyone else for that matter?
I was thinking of a gridded design with a pic of every car and a white space underneath each pic for autographs. A poster for each driver as a memento as well as the public.
We may be too old now for F1 glory but it helps the ego to autograph anything when you are a nobody, a never-has-been or never-will-be!
I'd also like an embroidered badge (like the TACCOC Whenuapai meetings) to be done.
In the past Steve(Holmes) has computer draw up our legend posters and i've had "True Colours" next to me at work print them out, i usually buy the paper to get better quality and to cheapen the cost in the A3 size, really you can design it however you want Ray as its just effort but it is a cool idea for both Racer and Public, we maybe too old for F1 glory but we can still live the dream(sort off) i guess we're all "could have","would have", "should haves" has beens LOL. The embroidered badge is a great idea and have thought of that also but not quite got around to it(theirs that "Round to it" word again that i keep hearing about, LOL) i believe at an event like this its kinda nice to lift the profile of each class which in turn helps the event organizers so please go for it Ray.
As of yesterday we have been successful in obtaining an HMC class sponsor for the festival and this helps offset material and other cost such as posters, trophies, etc. In-fact this wasn't to hard to get, just gotta ask i guess.
I'd offer my help Ray but i know you're more than capable in organizing this!!PS: don't forget the chocolate fish, LOL
Dale M
I do have contacts with embroidery Dale, if you need it. We might have find an alternative to chocolate fish... Congratulations on landing a sponsor Dale. I'm sure they'll be thrilled with the value of the exposure. We are so fortunate in having had just 4 great sponsors across the two series over the last 19 years.
Expressions of interest still coming in from our guys (so I'll update post #1) but I want them to enter early and not cause Jim and Chris the grief they have had in previous years from tardy entrants.
Murray Maunder
10-09-2014, 06:10 AM
Great, really great, that the HRC guys chose to honour Howden in this way. I had a chat to him the year of the first (Bruce McLaren) Festival of Motor Racing at Pukekohe in the BM Trust marquee and he was just the most obliging, friendly, and lucid interviewee you could hope for. His story really needs telling and sadly EY is no longer able to fill us in with the 70s insights. I'm sure there are many here who would like to know more about "the fourth Kiwi" of the 60s/70s motorsport world motorsport scene.
It's also an indication of his affection for his kiwi motorsport roots that he seems to come back every summer to celebrate a wonderful bygone era that he was a very significant part of.
This interview extract gives a quick overview of Howden's racing career from very humble beginning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-p1OHW9OD0&feature=youtu.be
Having scanned our entries (or potential entries) it became apparent that we had a great basis for an "International Trophy" teams race.
My thinking at the moment is that this would be handicap race 1 on the Sunday - notwithstanding any attrition of course.
Handicapping would be as normal and points awarded to the top 5 finishers in each team. A fun trophy, not a serious one, to maintain the spirit of the event of course.
This is the provisional look at the moment - and no doubt it will change...
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Bryan
10-13-2014, 03:49 AM
:cool: Great idea, Ray, will look forward to watching. :D
Time for a bump up the list I think.
Just a reminder that late entry fees click in after November 30th.
Our own group is looking pretty good so far and those blocked in green have already entered as at two days ago. The 'teams' concept for the Sunday morning handicaps seems to have gone down well with drivers, but the composition of the teams keeps changing a wee bit as people pull out and others come in. Maximum grid size is 46 cars.
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khyndart in CA
11-20-2014, 08:51 AM
Howden Ganley in 1973 driving his Formula One Iso-Marlboro FX3B Williams at the Nurburgring circuit with commentary by Jackie Stewart.
When brave drivers drove on real tracks, not like the go kart tracks of today !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otqXk2r_m7s
We have over 40 drivers who have entered our grid for the Festival plus one or two who claim they have entered but don't (yet) appear on the list from HRC.
Several have also entered who are not on my list above, so the teams have to be reshuffled...
What is certain is that barring attrition between now and the second weekend of the Festival, that we should have a full grid of cars.
And I do mean a full grid, not 'all those who have entered a series'.
Well done guys and if nothing else, spectators will have something to look at on track other than bare tarseal - other than the last laps of the 4 handicap races of course, where the field condenses! Friday's scratch race will mean that we slower guys are lapped, but at least there will be plenty of overtaking towards the end of the races.
I'l publish a revised list of entries, just as soon as the queries have been resolved.
Andrew Metford
12-03-2014, 10:55 AM
Well done Ray, and congratulations on a full grid. People voting by entering confirms what we've known all along, the series is in great hands and people love the way it is run. Great stuff!!
I'll see you there to get my poster to frame for the man cave :)
Whoops! We have an OVER FULL grid... A combination of drivers entering late; not communicating their intentions beforehand and not ticking the correct box on the entry website.
Maximum grid size at HD is 46 cars. We have no less than 59 who have been logged on the HRC website. I should be able to whittle one or two down as they have cross entered with the Historic Saloons grid, so much as we'd like them in our grid, it may well be that we'll have to say "Choose!"
Other than that, those who entered late may be on the reserve list for a while, but knowing the normal attrition rate between now and the end of practice (we can practice 20% above the grid limit), I am sure that all will be racing. One driver can't make the Friday, but we are happy to have his entry. A massive thank you to all the ERC guys for the support. A great bunch and hopefully, we'll educate a fair few spectators that modern V8s and Utes may get the publicity, but at classic level, you still see good racing.
Now I have to sit down and re-jig the teams...
First draft of our poster for the event. All pics are my own other than a couple (75 & 616) and the two spaces will be filled - if not by two new cars to the series, then by Jaguar logos in the bottom corners. Cars 36 & 31. Car 31 was at the track Sunday but as it hadn't yet turned a wheel in anger, it stayed on the trailer. Driver of car 36 apparently fell off a 1 horsepower device and broke a rib...
I need to get on the outside and take some pics from R to L.
So many drivers that we had to go to A1 - and even then, no signature space.
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Oldfart
12-19-2014, 12:18 AM
Where is my good friend Frans?
Six down, left side. Time for new specs Rhys...
I have had to use a pic of Eddie York's old XJ6 instead of his XJ40 and used Gary Johnstone's XJS instead of Win Jacob's car, which I haven't yet seen.
crunch
12-19-2014, 11:30 PM
First draft of our poster for the event. All pics are my own other than a couple (75 & 616) and the two spaces will be filled - if not by two new cars to the series, then by Jaguar logos in the bottom corners. Cars 36 & 31. Car 31 was at the track Sunday but as it hadn't yet turned a wheel in anger, it stayed on the trailer. Driver of car 36 apparently fell off a 1 horsepower device and broke a rib...
I need to get on the outside and take some pics from R to L.
Hi Ray, just my opinion, but who are you aiming the poster too? If it is to the competitors, this is great. But if to the public, it's too busy. We have exactly this type of format 10 years ago for the NZRC, and it flopped. However; posters with one or two exciting pictures were taken faster than they could be put out. Just an opinion, it's good you are putting in the effort
So many drivers that we had to go to A1 - and even then, no signature space.
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crunch
12-19-2014, 11:31 PM
Sorry, cocked up reply above. My comments to Ray are in his "quote" box...
crunch
12-19-2014, 11:34 PM
In my opinion, it took way too long for Howden to be added to the MSNZ Wall of Fame, but the measure of the man was his acceptance of the award. Originally he was flying out from California to attend the Awards Evening, but then He couldn't be here personally as he was attending a BRDC meeting in England, but took the time to make a professional video acceptance speech that was a great watch and listen.
Hi Ray, just my opinion, but who are you aiming the poster to? If it is to the competitors, this is great. But if to the public, it's too busy. We have exactly this type of format 10 years ago for the NZRC, and it flopped. However; posters with one or two exciting pictures were taken faster than they could be put out. Just an opinion, it's good you are putting in the effort
Crunch
It is just a giveaway Crunch. It isn't advertising or promoting anything.
As an inveterate poster collector for many years, if I was a kid at the Festival I'd be making a determined effort to try and get as many drivers as possible to sign it!
As a piece of memorabilia for the drivers and series supporters, a great reminder that whereas Tier 1 can only come up with a handful of identical cars, in our neck of the woods, all is healthy. They may not be future F1 stars, but in the real world in which we (classic and historic supporters) live, these are the legends who keep motorsport alive. Maybe you'd like to take one to hang in Wellington's ivory towers as a reminder!
As JAFA has already indicated, an ideal poster for the Man Cave or garage wall and for me, in years to come, a visual personal reminder of a great bunch of very supportive and appreciative guys, at a Festival that honours one of NZ's finest drivers.
I'll be getting one framed.
crunch
12-20-2014, 02:51 AM
It is just a giveaway Crunch. It isn't advertising or promoting anything.
As an inveterate poster collector for many years, if I was a kid at the Festival I'd be making a determined effort to try and get as many drivers as possible to sign it!
As a piece of memorabilia for the drivers and series supporters, a great reminder that whereas Tier 1 can only come up with a handful of identical cars, in our neck of the woods, all is healthy. They may not be future F1 stars, but in the real world in which we (classic and historic supporters) live, these are the legends who keep motorsport alive. Maybe you'd like to take one to hang in Wellington's ivory towers as a reminder!
As JAFA has already indicated, an ideal poster for the Man Cave or garage wall and for me, in years to come, a visual personal reminder of a great bunch of very supportive and appreciative guys, at a Festival that honours one of NZ's finest drivers.
I'll be getting one framed.
Good-o.Yep; please send one to Wellington so it can be added to the archives.
Jac Mac
12-20-2014, 05:01 AM
The archives dept must be getting a bit crowded Crunch, wouldn't it be better at the main entrance with a 'Food for Thought' caption!
Andrew Metford
12-20-2014, 10:00 AM
Well done Ray, that's a very nice momento for any Series driver and / or Series fan.
I'll be getting one framed.
This is what I'll be doing if I can snare one before they'll all gone. Going to be up early Friday morning to make sure!!!
No problem JAFA. I'll keep a couple for you. (Check out final design in the ERC thread.) I have upped the order from 500 to 600 but will keep some back for any series driver, past or present just as long as they let me know. May even see if I can get a couple framed anyway and raffle them for Child Cancer at the awards dinner.
I'm sure Howden Ganley would be happy to sign a couple for us - especially if I add his photograph to them. May even try and get him to autograph my original Marlboro BRM Howden Ganley sticker and the wall in our unit, to match the Chris Amon autograph!
Rod Grimwood
12-21-2014, 03:32 AM
This is worth a good look at when you are wandering through the pits, it will be beside/behind it's brother the F5000 Lola that is waiting to stretch its legs after rebuild also.
First time out in public so could be a bit shy, but you should be able to get a photo or 2.
Nice!
It's about time Billy Apple got the Lola T212 done too! That restoration has been going on for a very long time. I remember going to pick that up in the UK from Bob Howling - and we towed it to Nottingham from Cheshire, behind an 1116cc Mini in about 1976!
crunch
12-21-2014, 04:38 AM
This is worth a good look at when you are wandering through the pits, it will be beside/behind it's brother the F5000 Lola that is waiting to stretch its legs after rebuild also.
First time out in public so could be a bit shy, but you should be able to get a photo or 2.
Nice! Tech specs and history for the plebs amoung us...:p
John McKechnie
12-21-2014, 04:45 AM
No problem JAFA. I'll keep a couple for you. (Check out final design in the ERC thread.) I have upped the order from 500 to 600 but will keep some back for any series driver, past or present just as long as they let me know. May even see if I can get a couple framed anyway and raffle them for Child Cancer at the awards dinner.
I'm sure Howden Ganley would be happy to sign a couple for us - especially if I add his photograph to them. May even try and get him to autograph my original Marlboro BRM Howden Ganley sticker and the wall in our unit, to match the Chris Amon autograph!
Ray, what size are yours. My A2 glossy at WSL are $15 each.
fullnoise68
12-21-2014, 06:17 AM
The car is a credit to Lindsay and Brett and the team Rod. They have built some grouse cars over the years and this one looks no exception. The `Music by Chevrolet' on the rear panel is pretty cool ....
Oldfart
12-21-2014, 06:18 AM
What use is it putting posters in the fricking archives where they won't see the light of day for yonks? :) They belong where they are seen.
Rod Grimwood
12-21-2014, 06:36 AM
You will love it when you see it Steve, and you know what Lindsay is like with his "Çhev"
Grant Sprague
12-21-2014, 08:13 AM
You will love it when you see it Steve, and you know what Lindsay is like with his "Çhev"Beaut looking car no doubt about about that ..........well done
A1 - a lot less than that John, which is why I upped the number. Not digitally printed, but the difference between 500 and 600 was about $250 from memory. I'll email you in the morning. All a bit of a rush to get the design sorted before Christmas as plates have to be made.
John McKechnie
12-21-2014, 08:21 PM
Ray- easier to just call me
khyndart in CA
12-22-2014, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by ERC
I'm sure Howden Ganley would be happy to sign a couple for us - especially if I add his photograph to them. May even try and get him to autograph my original Marlboro BRM Howden Ganley sticker and the wall in our unit, to match the Chris Amon autograph!
I had the pleasure to meet Howden at the Laguna Seca Historic Meet in 2007. He signed this cover of Autosport (July 19. 1973) which shows him on the left in the Iso Marlboro as behind him is the mayhem from the Jody Scheckter crash on the first lap at the British Grand Prix at Silverstone. As you will note James Hunt's Hesketh airbox is awry and it came off as he came past us at Becketts corner. The race stoppage allowed his crew to make repairs and he drove a great race to finish 4th.
Second to fourth finished less than a second apart! Howden finished in 9th place.
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Howden at Laguna Seca with Brian Redman and John Horsman signing "Racing in the Rain" books and other autographs. August 2007
(Ken Hyndman photo)
Final figures for the ERC races - 46 cars (full grid) plus 13 reserves...
All 13 reserves are racing in another group so won't miss out, though one or two are understandably not 100% happy being on the ERC reserve list, as they only entered the other grid to boost numbers! History shows that as any meeting progresses, numbers do tend to shrink. How much, no-one really knows, but what we are aiming for is that by the close of racing on the Sunday (weekend 2 only), there will still be a decent sized grid.
Rod Grimwood
01-01-2015, 08:44 AM
Well done guy's
Jerry Entin
01-06-2015, 12:15 PM
http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y525/JerryEntin/monaco_1_zps500bf187.jpg
Howden Ganley's new book
Andrew Metford
01-06-2015, 12:54 PM
Will this book be able to be purchased at the Festival? Signing opportunities?
Michael Clark
01-06-2015, 05:10 PM
Most certainly. 'The Road to Monaco' will be officially 'launched' in the Bruce McLaren Trust tent just prior to the signing session starting at 11am on Friday the 16th - in fact I'll start a new thread...
Jerry Entin
01-06-2015, 09:28 PM
Here is a Great interview with Howden and Robin Miller:
http://www.racer.com/north-american-racing/item/111754-racer-howden-ganley-with-robin-miller-at-pri-2014
Andrew Metford
01-06-2015, 09:37 PM
Most certainly. 'The Road to Monaco' will be officially 'launched' in the Bruce McLaren Trust tent just prior to the signing session starting at 11am on Friday the 16th - in fact I'll start a new thread...
Thank you. I will make sure I am at the tent for the launching and to then get my book signed.
JAFA, you might want to collect your ERC poster just before, then get Howden to sign both! (You might need a silver marker for that though.) It is a big poster, so you might also want to bring along a 600mm cardboard tube!
I have just picked up the posters. Thrilled to bits with how they have turned out. A pretty hefty weight they are too! 850mm tall x 600mm wide.
If anyone wants one posting, I am more than happy to save you one and post after the event at the cost of postage plus a 600mm card tube. Although we aren't racing until weekend 2, I will have some available for weekend 1.
Not sure where I'll be located, but all being well, I should have #70 Marcos there alongside the PIC display area, near Hamptons.
Weekend 2, we are located on the Hampton's side of the roadway, but I'm not sure we'll get 50+ cars in there plus the Sports GTs.
Just a few pics. Plenty of media snappers in evidence.
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Spgeti
01-16-2015, 07:38 AM
As usual Ray, great photos. Looking forward to the meeting. The Monty looks great and that's where I will be over the weekend.
Snoozin
01-16-2015, 08:39 AM
Hi guys, I'll be wearing my brown Roaring Season T-shirt tomorrow, and I typically wear a pink (yeah I know...) hi vis. Come and say hey if you see me about. Here's a few of today's that I've sorted so far. Many to come :)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7502/15671617123_18486a881e_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pSR8Me)IMG_8593 (https://flic.kr/p/pSR8Me) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7561/16265537696_c3743a3112_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qMk8F7)IMG_8623 (https://flic.kr/p/qMk8F7) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8634/16105507107_ac956254c4_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qxbWa2)IMG_9090 (https://flic.kr/p/qxbWa2) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
I was very lucky to be allowed to get the above opportunity...
HMC fields is mind blowingly awesome. Sports Sedans are fantastic to see, everything is so far, swell! See you there tomorrow I hope.
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Grant Sprague
01-16-2015, 08:50 AM
Great photos ,thank you was thinking of you all while picking avocados in sweltering heat in the bay of plenty ,,,soooooooo looking forwards to seeing some action & learning a few things next week end to how things are going .... Grant
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I did see you Richy - in the pink! Not in this pic. Will say hi tomorrow.
Snoozin
01-16-2015, 09:20 AM
The jokers shooting for the Aussie Transam are good fellas too!
TonyG
01-16-2015, 10:00 AM
Thats not Dewi (from Aus) standing with his hands on hips is it?
John McKechnie
01-16-2015, 10:28 AM
I have done 200 A3 posters celebrating Sports Sedans from 1977 - 2015.
They are full gloss colour done as a collage and they are all a free give away to the fans.
Please come and see me- light blue XA Coupe 083 over the weekend to get yours, no limit per fan.
TonyG- send me an email with your mailing address, also the Aussie Tranzam guys are grabbing them as theres nothing like it over there.-my wife spent about 80 hours on it getting them just right.
Shano
01-16-2015, 10:21 PM
Sensational photo of the two Beggs.
Steve Holmes
01-16-2015, 11:32 PM
Awesome pics and info guys, keep it coming for those of us who aren't there.
Steve Holmes
01-16-2015, 11:33 PM
Results from the first weekend are being posted to Mylaps, check it out here:
http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1104373 (http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1104373)
TonyG
01-17-2015, 12:51 AM
Done John. Looks like the weather is going to be good to you, Hope the crowds respond well. Have fun. Will be watching the pics come on line.
Regards
Tony
TonyG
01-17-2015, 12:54 AM
Wholeheartedly agree with you Shano.
More on "my" 'Just a Mix of Pics' thread from Saturday. Not many loaded, as it takes ages to sort out what I have taken, eliminate the dross then save a copy to shrink for this website.
Great crowd on Saturday from quite early on - and they were still rolling in when I left. Big smiles all round.
As posted on the other thread:
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01-18-2015, 12:58 AM
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01-18-2015, 01:11 AM
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PhotoSmith
01-18-2015, 03:19 AM
F5000's from Saturday...
PhotoSmith
01-18-2015, 03:24 AM
More F5000's from Saturday.......
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01-18-2015, 03:50 AM
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01-18-2015, 04:16 AM
Pretty sure my childhood carsickness would come rushing back if I tried this
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Looks a bit like one of those elongated skateboards
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01-18-2015, 04:37 AM
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TonyG
01-18-2015, 05:55 AM
Results from the first weekend are being posted to Mylaps, check it out here:
http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1104373 (http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1104373)
No results today !
Steve Holmes
01-18-2015, 07:06 AM
You might have to push the refresh button when you open the link Tony
Snoozin
01-18-2015, 10:04 AM
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7547/15684414084_11675bd1f2_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pTYHSu)IMG_9450 (https://flic.kr/p/pTYHSu) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
Never let anyone tell you they don't drive these old girls hard. 4 wheel drift in this shot, a dab of opposite lock and the inside front off the deck.
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01-18-2015, 10:53 AM
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01-18-2015, 10:56 AM
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01-18-2015, 11:21 AM
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Snoozin
01-18-2015, 11:26 AM
The Elva-DKW has to be one of my favourite cars at every NZFMR.
The Elva-DKW has to be one of my favourite cars at every NZFMR.
Mine too! Noisy, smoky, engine at the front, immaculately presented. Nice pics as always.
Fantastic photos Snoozin and Nigel Watts - please keep up the great work!
ERC numbers for the coming weekend have dropped due to mechanical maladies. Down now to a grid of 46 cars and just 8 reserves...
A limited number of the ERC posters will be on sale from the programme kiosk in the paddock at $5 - profits to the local Te Kauwhata Primary School.
Hope you keen photographers get some good pics this coming weekend - though the weather forecast is a little erratic at the moment...
nigel watts
01-19-2015, 03:02 AM
ERC numbers for the coming weekend have dropped due to mechanical maladies. Down now to a grid of 46 cars and just 8 reserves...
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Well that's still a very healthy grid. Your cars were sorely missed on weekend 1
I have to say that as a paying spectator, I was a bit disappointed with some of the grid sizes on Saturday.
Festival publicity was trumpeting that there were 50+ F5000 entries whereas the reality was 22 starters for Saturday afternoon.
When your expectations are high, you can't help but be disappointed when they're not met.
However, having said that, I'd like to praise all the competitors that did turn up and race.
Hope that next weekend goes well
Cheers
Nigel
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01-19-2015, 07:43 AM
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Great pics, thanks very much Nigel. But please don't feel too short-changed by having "only" 22 F5000s turn out Saturday. We had an historic meeting in Perth a couple of years back, and had ONE show up, Bill Hemming's Elfin MR8, and the entire crowd were eternally grateful that Bill gave it a damn good kicking for a few laps, twice in the day. You guys really are very lucky...:)
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01-19-2015, 08:19 AM
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John B
01-19-2015, 11:33 AM
Pretty sure my childhood carsickness would come rushing back if I tried this
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Wow, what an experience that would be. But the helmet of one of the passengers is way above the roll hoop! How on earth did they get away with that?
A friend of mine had paid his $1200 for his ride in the Arrows F1 car during the weekend, but, when he fronted up, he was unfortunately turned away because his helmet was above the roll hoop. He was gutted!
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01-19-2015, 07:07 PM
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kiwi285
01-19-2015, 09:29 PM
Great to see garage 9 had 5 McLaren F5000 cars in residence plus the Danie Jacobs car in Hamptons. I don't believe that there were 50 F5000 cars in attendance though.
kiwi285
01-19-2015, 11:56 PM
M Peden was throwing this rally car into the carousal sideways and keeping it going until the exit. Very spectacular to watch plus the flames on the overrun.
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Kevin Hirst
01-20-2015, 02:31 AM
M Peden was throwing this rally car into the carousal sideways and keeping it going until the exit. Very spectacular to watch plus the flames on the overrun.
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Awsome for a car totaly built in corromandel,
[QUOTE=kiwi285;44783]M Peden was throwing this rally car into the carousal sideways and keeping it going until the exit. Very spectacular to watch plus the flames on the overrun.
That would be Master Kelsey wouldnt it?
Rod Grimwood
01-20-2015, 03:46 AM
Yes it was Master Kelsey, and he built it also.
Shoreboy57
01-20-2015, 03:48 AM
That would be Master Kelsey wouldnt it?
Indeed - Alex Kelsey
Rod Grimwood
01-20-2015, 04:34 AM
I am off to do one of the great things about this sport. During the weekend we shared a pit unit with the Aussie F5000 invasion of Paul Zazryn and team and Peter Brennan and team along with our Pommie mate Greg Thornton and team. Well they have all travelled up to Bay Of Islands for a few days to look around, so it is off to join them now and 'plan' their stay.
4dnut
01-20-2015, 06:04 AM
Yes it was Master Kelsey, and he built it also.
That is a cool bit of gear, I think the built in a shed in Coromandel all by Alex is not giving others with the credit they are due though. Yes Alex's vision and ideas and cash, but I have to say Dan Slater in Auckland built quite a bit of that car.
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01-20-2015, 06:06 AM
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On a racing car!
Good god - what's the world coming to.....!
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01-20-2015, 08:54 AM
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Shoreboy57
01-20-2015, 09:11 AM
Need a like button for the Falcon
Oldfart
01-20-2015, 09:15 AM
Awsome for a car totaly built in corromandel,
Really Kev?
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01-20-2015, 10:48 AM
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01-20-2015, 10:53 AM
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Kevin Hirst
01-20-2015, 07:35 PM
Really Kev?
So I was lead to believe Rhys, maybe shoudn't listen to rumours, saw this car perform at Taupo track several months ago, fabulious piece of kit.
I have to say that as a paying spectator, I was a bit disappointed with some of the grid sizes on Saturday.
Festival publicity was trumpeting that there were 50+ F5000 entries whereas the reality was 22 starters for Saturday afternoon.
There are 30 listed in the programme. I am not sure what happened to the other 20, but the Festival website should have been updated. It is still saying 50+ cars.
I'm sure there were a lot more at one of the earlier festivals, as they had two qualifying sessions with different cars resulting in one grid.
nigel watts
01-21-2015, 06:36 AM
There are 30 listed in the programme. I am not sure what happened to the other 20, but the Festival website should have been updated. It is still saying 50+ cars.
I'm sure there were a lot more at one of the earlier festivals, as they had two qualifying sessions with different cars resulting in one grid.
As of today the website is still claiming 50+ cars. Initially I had pretty much decided not to go this year but my mind was changed by the thought of 50 thundering V8's tearing around the track. What a spectacle that would be. So I paid my money and went along with high expectations. The other thing that was a bit disappointing was the last HRC race being spoilt by the pace car. Isn't there a way that the race could be stopped and restarted or a few extra laps tacked onto the end to compensate. HMC being a such a drawcard class deserve better.
i'm sure the drivers were just as ticked off as I was.
Anyway, having got that off my chest, I was rapt today when a friend gave me a free ticket for this weekend. Maybe the missing F5000's will have been found by then!!
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01-21-2015, 07:03 AM
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The track limit is in fact 46 cars - for saloons, but a bit lower for single seaters Nigel, so you wouldn't ever get 50 F5000's racing at the same time.
I think you meant HMC (Historic Muscle Cars) not HRC (Historic Racing Club), who are effectively the organisers.
The use of Safety Cars has been one of mixed blessings. As a former flaggie for many years, the fact that most drivers tended to either ignore yellows or didn't slow, put the lives of the hard working volunteers in real danger, not to mention stranded competitors. Ever increasing speeds haven't helped either, so safety has to come first.
From a driver's perspective, a frustration having paid to race, but adding extra laps also stretches out the race programme and it may also affect fuel consumption calculations.
From a Series Handicapper's point of view, a total nightmare. Race Troll will probably correct me, but if the race has been 25% or less completed and red flagged, then it can be restarted from the original handicap positions or grid positions. Total restart.
Safety Car laps are always counted and if red flagged after 75%, the race is declared. An 8 lap race is an 8 lap race.
As in F1, if there was a means of controlling all cars between two points down to 75kph or whatever, by race control, then maybe the safety car wouldn't be required as often.
Come and say hello at the weekend Nigel - but please be trackside at 9:45am and 2:15pm each day, when we should have the numbers for you. Maybe not the spectacle of F5000's, but Saturday and Sunday race feedback would be appreciated from everyone, as it will affect our approach for 2016. Remember, we asked to be included this year - it wasn't an invite.
latest on ERC:
Withdrawals
#67 Paul Kendrick - Porsche 944 - teething problems with this car.
#1 Alan Ferguson - BMW M8 - what was thought to be a cylinder head gasket failure, turned out to be a cracked head.
#40 Adrian Dobbe - Vauxhall Viva 6 - mechanical issues, engine.
That moves up the reserves to maintain the 46 car grid:
#739 Grant Kern - MGB V8 - now in all ERC races
#231 John Hudson - BMW2002 - now in all ERC races
Car #83 -John Honore - Ferrrari 308GTB included Friday scratch race only at this stage, 1st reserve Saturday and Sunday handicap races. (Ferrari is currently for sale.)
nigel watts
01-21-2015, 08:45 AM
Yep, I understand and support the need for the safety car but I think that the needs and expectations of the paying spectators needs to be considered also. It probably is but it's not always obvious. We all know that spectator numbers are already practically non existent and the sport doesn't want to lose any more of a dwindling resource. Last Saturday I reckon that if you removed all the crews and supporters from the 'crowd', there wouldn't have been that many people left. It must be very difficult for the organisers [and a considerable financial risk] to promote a motor racing event these days, and I take my hat off to them and to all of the volunteers that enable the event to take place. But there's always room for improvement and sometimes little things make a huge difference.
I hope Roger Williams can get "Old Blue" back in action this weekend. I saw John Greenwood racing his "Spirit of '76" at Le Mans in 1976. It was amazingly quick.
Looking forward to seeing a full grid of ERC competitors.
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The crowd on Saturday was quite healthy with the main car park (behind the main ticket booth) full by just after lunch.
The organisers - plus the officials and even the MSNZ Stewards are bound by a strict set of rules as to how races will be run. The paperwork now even has to include any on track processions, hot laps, demonstrations etc. Just about everything is regulated, whether that is in the best interests of the spectators, drivers or not.
Totally agree that little things can make a huge difference and feedback is always appreciated - but it has to go back to the organisers.
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01-21-2015, 09:08 AM
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Thanks heaps for the pics, Nigel and friends.
nigel watts
01-21-2015, 09:56 AM
Thanks heaps for the pics, Nigel and friends.
Our pleasure
John McKechnie
01-21-2015, 10:37 AM
Nigel- these are truly superb pics. Where else in the world would you see these cars and all together like this.
I hate it when the SC comes out and the handicap goes out the window and no spectacle for the crowd.
At my guys drivers briefing I will make special point of clearing the track to try to avoid a SC- sorry if it give you less track time Tony.
Dale was telling me that in USA they dont worry about the spectator numbers, Historic racing is for the drivers and crews pleasure. Of course it does cost more.............
nigel watts
01-21-2015, 09:13 PM
Nigel- these are truly superb pics. Where else in the world would you see these cars and all together like this.
I hate it when the SC comes out and the handicap goes out the window and no spectacle for the crowd.
At my guys drivers briefing I will make special point of clearing the track to try to avoid a SC- sorry if it give you less track time Tony.
Dale was telling me that in USA they dont worry about the spectator numbers, Historic racing is for the drivers and crews pleasure. Of course it does cost more.............
Thanks John
Yes I agree with you that we are spoilt here in NZ with the numbers of classic cars that are around and come out to play from time to time. I'm not surprised to hear that they don't worry about spectators numbers in the US. They probably have more competitors attending and with track operating costs being comparable [?] with NZ it's affordable for them whereas we need spectators to subsidise the cost. I have no idea what it costs you in total for a day at the races, but I'm sure it's a tidy sum. I'm equally sure that if more spectators attended which had the flow on effect of reducing competitors costs then maybe more classics would come out to play - and more spectators would come along to watch. Sounds so easy doesn't it. lol.
Looking forward to Saturday.
Rod Grimwood
01-22-2015, 04:53 AM
Top Photos Guys, thanks
RacerT
01-22-2015, 04:59 AM
There are 30 listed in the programme. I am not sure what happened to the other 20, but the Festival website should have been updated. It is still saying 50+ cars.
I'm sure there were a lot more at one of the earlier festivals, as they had two qualifying sessions with different cars resulting in one grid.
Hi Ray
It was never stated that 50 cars would be racing. The promotional material specifically said there would be 50+ cars at the Festival. This is what was achieved. 26 cars were racing, 10 were on display in Hamptons and 17 were in demo's at lunch time and in the afternoon session.
We initially believed that we would top 60 cars, but the upcoming Monterey F5000 racing in August 2015 kept a lot of the overseas cars as we came nearer to commitment time for the Festival. Hopefully the BRM V12's, Ferrari V12 and the 3 seater F1 cars helped to compensate. As organisers, we apologise if you believe you were short changed. As always, we do our best! Regards Tony Roberts
Andrew Metford
01-22-2015, 06:28 AM
That's a clever use of words there Tony to drag the punters through the gate. As it is a race meeting, which is advertising 50+ cars, one could not unfairly assume there will be 50 cars racing. I know I did, and it seems most other people arrived at the same assumption, and we have all been disappointed. While having 26 F5000 cars racing is no mean feat in itself, it is far from the 50 which it seems some people made a special effort to come and see based on the suggestive advertising.
Is there any reason why you cannot publish the entry lists on the NZFMR website leading up to the event? Even if it is just a straight list ( not by classes ) so it shouldn't hurt your program sales, it would be good to see who will be there. Most people will go regardless ( to spectate ), but if there are a couple of cars / entrants that pique their interest, they may go for more than 1 day per weekend. Just a suggestion. It would also eliminate the 50 cars / 26 racing / rest on display etc problem.
I have a few more ideas to improve things for both drivers and spectators, but no time now, I will post up later.
Fair's fair, how realistic is it to expect 50 F5000s on the track and racing when that's never been remotely approached anywhere in the world ? To suggest that is a sneakily-worded con is disrespectful to the promoters of this and other categories, who appear to have worked hard to get still-impressive entry lists to the line.
Nobody could genuinely anticipate a grid of that size forming up, and it's a bit rich if that's all you have to complain about after a weekend that is envied around the world. Cheer up, son.
CUSTAXIE50
01-22-2015, 07:24 AM
Thanks John
Yes I agree with you that we are spoilt here in NZ with the numbers of classic cars that are around and come out to play from time to time. I'm not surprised to hear that they don't worry about spectators numbers in the US. They probably have more competitors attending and with track operating costs being comparable [?] with NZ it's affordable for them whereas we need spectators to subsidise the cost. I have no idea what it costs you in total for a day at the races, but I'm sure it's a tidy sum. I'm equally sure that if more spectators attended which had the flow on effect of reducing competitors costs then maybe more classics would come out to play - and more spectators would come along to watch. Sounds so easy doesn't it. lol.
Looking forward to Saturday. Very good work Nigel with the photos you have put up here,Boy there are some very nice looking cars still out there today.
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I wasn't complaining about the numbers Tony, merely responding to Nigel's post!
As JAFA assisted Barry Algie last year, with finance and time (and he wasn't the only one), I know his passion for a great Festival is genuine, but if a regular contributor/photographer on here posts a level of disappointment then he more than likely has a genuine point. Nothing is gained from just heaping praise on the hard working ones if there are also valid criticisms. Only a fool listens to praise and ignores valid criticism.
The organisers put a tremendous amount of work and effort into this Festival and are to be congratulated on what has become an iconic NZ event that continues to grow. Lessons are always learned. One valid criticism from one genuine person has to be balanced against the obvious enjoyment overall from that same person.
rogered
01-22-2015, 07:43 AM
Some of you plonkers need to have a bit of a rethink. It wasn't to many years ago I was grateful to see 1 F5000 car have a run.Now you bemoaning the fact that there is "only" 25 on the grid. Good Grief
nigel watts
01-22-2015, 08:02 AM
Some of you plonkers need to have a bit of a rethink. It wasn't to many years ago I was grateful to see 1 F5000 car have a run.Now you bemoaning the fact that there is "only" 25 on the grid. Good Grief
So, what you're saying is that we have no right to express an opinion. We should be grateful for whatever we get. If I'm paying to attend an event and it's not quite what I expected I think I should feel free to say so. I didn't say it was bad or a waste of time and money, only that I was a bit disappointed having thought, perhaps mistakenly, that I would be seeing 50+ F5000's on the track. Just because I'm a mere spectator doesn't mean that I can't express an opinion. If I bought a ticket to see the Stones and Mick Jagger wasn't there I would be disappointed even if it was a great concert. My point being that it could have been even better than it was.
So this "plonker" doesn't really care what you think rogered. You have your opinion and I have mine. End of story.
Spgeti
01-22-2015, 08:10 AM
I agree rogered. great event, fantastic grids, and I don't care about the historic knocking. When Noah was launching his Arc, their were never that many F5000's, big bangers etc on the grid and by 3 laps half the field had broken.
This is the number one historic race meeting in the country,....bar none.
The Muscle Cars, Historic Sports Sedan, F5000, F Juniors etc , FANTASTIC.......we can all be critics, but credit should be given....nothing is perfect and we should stand back and applaude,...... loudly.
If the advertising said "Over 25 F5000's" and 30 turned up, there wouldn't be any adverse comment would there and everyone would be happy!
Whether you are advertising a 10cm high burger and delivering a 5cm high burger, or a mountain of chips and serving a small handful, you have to be extremely careful. Event advertising is no different.
However, I am really looking forward to this weekend!
rogered
01-22-2015, 08:41 AM
I agree rogered. great event, fantastic grids, and I don't care about the historic knocking. When Noah was launching his Arc, their were never that many F5000's, big bangers etc on the grid and by 3 laps half the field had broken.
This is the number one historic race meeting in the country,....bar none.
The Muscle Cars, Historic Sports Sedan, F5000, F Juniors etc , FANTASTIC.......we can all be critics, but credit should be given....nothing is perfect and we should stand back and applaude,...... loudly.
You've got it Spgeti :)
seaqnmac27
01-22-2015, 08:46 AM
Always give a little more than you promise - The Studebaker Brothers
Jizim
01-22-2015, 01:39 PM
Yes it was Master Kelsey, and he built it also.
Dan Slater was contracted to build the complex and beautiful chassis and the Kelseys did the rest. Goes well. Check Dan's work out if you get the opportunity.....(just like the late Peter Bruin's work)
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01-22-2015, 01:45 PM
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I offered to Peter and Aaron if they removed the engine out of the BRM...I would rectify their cam shaft timing problem....free of any charge as well....have had experience on multiple valve engines and some of the older ones too!. Unfortunately can't be done in place. They need to be very careful with the valve to piston clearance on this....( seems the cam has jumped a tooth or more likely was assembled that way....too far advanced on exhaust cam!) Be good to see this one on track.. Regards, Tony Rutherford
Jizim
01-22-2015, 01:51 PM
Nigel- these are truly superb pics. Where else in the world would you see these cars and all together like this.
I hate it when the SC comes out and the handicap goes out the window and no spectacle for the crowd.
At my guys drivers briefing I will make special point of clearing the track to try to avoid a SC- sorry if it give you less track time Tony.
Dale was telling me that in USA they dont worry about the spectator numbers, Historic racing is for the drivers and crews pleasure. Of course it does cost more.............
I totally agree John....I hate being called out in a handicap race....it just wrecks it......plus "one car" had a hic cup with a transponder and against my better judgement I had to wave the race leader through and pick up second place getter. Will be talking to the driver concerned this weekend. He was awarded the win i believe. Cheers, Tony Rutherford
John McKechnie
01-22-2015, 07:23 PM
Tony- mate thats a tough call when you have your own views. Main thing though, he was awarded the win.
Will catch up with you out there today
Shoreboy57
01-22-2015, 09:21 PM
I agree rogered. great event, fantastic grids, and I don't care about the historic knocking. When Noah was launching his Arc, their were never that many F5000's, big bangers etc on the grid and by 3 laps half the field had broken.
This is the number one historic race meeting in the country,....bar none.
The Muscle Cars, Historic Sports Sedan, F5000, F Juniors etc , FANTASTIC.......we can all be critics, but credit should be given....nothing is perfect and we should stand back and applaude,...... loudly.
That's why I'll be back this weekend. A shout out to all those series organisers, be it HMC, Sports Sedans, ERC, F5000. Historic Touring etc etc who are doing their darndest to get a field of cars out there. Sure some fields are bigger or more historically accurate than others but contrast this with the field size and lack of variety of most modern race meetings and we are very very lucky to have NZFMR. My glass is more than half full
Well, the crowd was much thinner this Friday than last week, so hopefully Saturday and Sunday will be better.
Craig Howser's Escort - #75 had a massive engine blow up going into turn 2 during our busy scratch race, so we finished under the safety car after 7 laps. Shame, as the leaders had just started lapping the slower stuff and to the best of my knowledge, despite the full grid, no panel damage - though Rogan did manage to spin the Cobra in the middle of the pack on lap 1 at the final hairpin.
#44, the XJS Jag's new gearbox or clutch has packed a sad so is out for the weekend.
#281 had a few issues at scrutineering so hopefully will be back tomorrow.
Big thanks to Andy Culpin and Byron at RaceFX. I was doing a wheel check before leaving the garage and one wheel stud was turning... They managed to remove the wheel and we opted to Mig weld all 4 studs (one had been done in the past anyway). Phew!
The ambulance/paramedics were over an hour late - so I still made practice.
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01-23-2015, 07:43 AM
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Wow, more goodies : love that Halliday tribute Escort. Excuse the ignorance Nigel, but I've never been to Hampton : it does look as though cameramen are able to get good shots from pretty close to the track. That would make it something of an exception in terms of newer circuits !
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01-23-2015, 08:00 AM
Wow, more goodies : love that Halliday tribute Escort. Excuse the ignorance Nigel, but I've never been to Hampton : it does look as though cameramen are able to get good shots from pretty close to the track. That would make it something of an exception in terms of newer circuits !
Yes. One of the reasons I really like HD. All of my shots were taken from the spectator enclosure as I don't have a media pass [hint hint!]
John McKechnie
01-23-2015, 08:01 AM
Nigel- the quality- clarity, colour action-of your pics never ceases to amaze me.
You have even caught me with my arm catching some breeze with the window down on the parade lap
Wow, more goodies : love that Halliday tribute Escort. Excuse the ignorance Nigel, but I've never been to Hampton : it does look as though cameramen are able to get good shots from pretty close to the track. That would make it something of an exception in terms of newer circuits !
GD66 - I believe that is the Halliday Escort, but I could be wrong!
All of my own pics are from the spectator areas GD66 and for my money, the photo opportunities either as paying spectators or as Media pass holding photographers, are as good as anywhere I have ever been to. Having access to the middle of the track gives you time to take pics from two or three great vantage points within the same race and without the hassles of overly high catch fencing.
Nigel, just go to the secretary's office and ask to sign the Photographer's disclaimer. If you don't have an orange Hi-Vis vest (please don't use yellow), you can borrow mine. I'll be around Grant Kern's big trailer on the road up to Hamptons.
Just check with the nearest flag post if you want to cross the track between races. This isn't Monaco or Silverstone and it is what makes spectating at HD's Classic/Historic events such a joy.
All we need is that massive support from the south now and again so that we can see some of those wonderful cars again now that I have a decent camera!
nigel watts
01-23-2015, 08:18 AM
Oh yes - the catch fencing - the bain of photographers.
I regret that I don't go to Pukekohe anymore because of the high fences.
nigel watts
01-23-2015, 08:21 AM
Nigel- the quality- clarity, colour action-of your pics never ceases to amaze me.
You have even caught me with my arm catching some breeze with the window down on the parade lap
Thanks John. I just can't imagine how hot it must be inside your race suits. I'd sweat buckets if I tried that.
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01-23-2015, 08:31 AM
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Great pics Nigel. A wheel (or two) off the floor or a bit of drift (not a lot of drift, as in drifting!) is what makes some of these cars photograph so well.
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A much better crowd today than yesterday.
Car #281 was fixed and back in the fray today but it was a day of ups and downs for several of our drivers.
Most impressive return was car #75 after yesterday's engine blow up. Rob Berggren just happened to have a Ford Escort engine under his bench in one of the apartment garage units, so by the time lunch time came, car #75 was up and running again! Brilliant - but it kept the reserve list up!
Car #866 had issues and when fixed, found that a faulty radiator cap needed fixing - to be sorted overnight as there aren't many places stocking Renault Gordini parts locally!
Car #156 had a split radiator - but also returned after a replacement was sourced.
Sadly, in the afternoon handicap, we had our first panel damage of the weekend. #739 was faced with a spinning Cobra at Turn 1 and copped a damaged right front wing, but will race tomorrow. The Cobra will not run with us.
Car #146 freaked out when being caught by the two fast charging scratch guys and put himself off at turn 1 causing a little bit of body damage. Well done to Bruce Manon, overtaking the whole field, driving Mike Sexton's immaculate Escort, snatching the lead just before the final hairpin on the last lap.
Overall, a busy day on track with full grids for both handicaps and full grids for tomorrow (Sunday), still with reserves to call upon. Thankfully, our attrition rate appears to be lower than many smaller grids - which is a bit of a surprise to be honest! Well driven guys. Very proud of you. A couple of yellow flags certainly stopped the bulk of the faster cars getting to the front in the afternoon - typical of handicaps - yet they managed it during the morning race.
John McKechnie
01-24-2015, 10:46 AM
Race 13 from yesterday with me, John Samios and Murray- both had great runs today
The red flag period when the hemi had to be retrieved has been edited.
I fell off the track on turn one , was careful coming back on not to get close to the SUPER IMMACULATE GULF Camaro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHDOBt7GiNU
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Great shots Nigel. Looks as though you did manage to get across the track for a new vantage point.
nigel watts
01-25-2015, 10:40 AM
Great shots Nigel. Looks as though you did manage to get across the track for a new vantage point.
Yes I did, and thank you. I thought, when I asked for a pass in the morning, that they were going to decline my request. But when I mentioned that I post my photos to the Roaring Season, they were happy tp issue me with the pass. Thanks again.
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01-25-2015, 11:13 AM
Very nice work.
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Nigel - could you please post any ERC series pics, if you have any, on the ERC thread?
nigel watts
01-25-2015, 11:32 PM
Nigel - could you please post any ERC series pics, if you have any, on the ERC thread?
Ok, will do
Jaydee
01-26-2015, 01:21 AM
Brilliant photos Nigel...what camera etc? (don't tell me it's your I phone or I'll throw my Nikon away). Well done anyway and thanks for posting them.
PS: to GD66: it's not a tribute car, it's one of the last survivors of that era together with Rayden's ex Jim Richards 102 Escort, and both are registered NZ Historic Cars.
Paul Wilkinson
01-26-2015, 01:45 AM
PS: to GD66: it's not a tribute car, it's one of the last survivors of that era together with Rayden's ex Jim Richards 102 Escort, and both are registered NZ Historic Cars.
I think you're referring to the Halliday Escort? Defiantely one of the highlights for me.
Steve Holmes
01-26-2015, 01:45 AM
Yes I did, and thank you. I thought, when I asked for a pass in the morning, that they were going to decline my request. But when I mentioned that I post my photos to the Roaring Season, they were happy tp issue me with the pass. Thanks again.
Great to hear you used The Roaring Season as leverage to get a pass Nigel. Sounds like this site does have its uses afterall!
Steve Holmes
01-26-2015, 01:46 AM
To everyone who took the time to post photos and info from the NZFMR the last two weekends, I'd just like to say a huge thanks. Its really been a joy to follow, and the photos are just incredible.
nigel watts
01-26-2015, 02:18 AM
Brilliant photos Nigel...what camera etc? (don't tell me it's your I phone or I'll throw my Nikon away). Well done anyway and thanks for posting them.
My pleasure Jaydee.
At the moment I'm using a Canon 7D with a Tamron 150-600 zoom. With this combo I can see the whites of their eyes!!
Pedro917K
01-26-2015, 03:36 AM
Hi Ray
It was never stated that 50 cars would be racing. The promotional material specifically said there would be 50+ cars at the Festival. This is what was achieved. 26 cars were racing, 10 were on display in Hamptons and 17 were in demo's at lunch time and in the afternoon session.
We initially believed that we would top 60 cars, but the upcoming Monterey F5000 racing in August 2015 kept a lot of the overseas cars as we came nearer to commitment time for the Festival. Hopefully the BRM V12's, Ferrari V12 and the 3 seater F1 cars helped to compensate. As organisers, we apologise if you believe you were short changed. As always, we do our best! Regards Tony Roberts
RacerT,
I have to take your side on this one - people expect too much a lot of the time ..... to have 26 F5000 cars racing is amazing, and would not happen anywhere else in the world ..... Really good to see your M10A high-wing is running, and quite a few McLaren's now in the field of cars.
Best wishes,
Peter Russell
Note to wifey. I need a 150 - 600mm lens... Brilliant pics Nigel. You have a very good eye for a photograph as opposed to just a snapshot.
Snoozin
01-26-2015, 04:37 AM
I was particularly taken by this:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8659/16174855927_68f24fe816_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qDjn9k)IMG_5754 (https://flic.kr/p/qDjn9k) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7410/16174524209_fe00538759_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qDhEx4)IMG_5377 (https://flic.kr/p/qDhEx4) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7318/15738286854_bb12b38bd9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pYJQnm)IMG_5806 (https://flic.kr/p/pYJQnm) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7365/16174520779_22394b5eba_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qDhDvV)IMG_5819 (https://flic.kr/p/qDhDvV) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8673/15740930973_3072f4fe9f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pYYonB)IMG_5382 (https://flic.kr/p/pYYonB) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8581/15738450574_0b0521673c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pYKF37)IMG_5810 (https://flic.kr/p/pYKF37) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
crunch
01-26-2015, 04:38 AM
...I wonder which shed it was found in....
Snoozin
01-26-2015, 04:40 AM
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7560/16330535551_722bd2a4df_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qT5ggM)IMG_0131 (https://flic.kr/p/qT5ggM) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7501/15719854363_21ff535f1f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pX7n2M)IMG_0332 (https://flic.kr/p/pX7n2M) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
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https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8634/15717357744_4db47aed2c_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/pWTySC)IMG_9383 (https://flic.kr/p/pWTySC) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8630/16153603039_61726db5f9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qBrrpe)IMG_9467 (https://flic.kr/p/qBrrpe) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7522/16266555796_3434fba308_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qMqmjy)IMG_8234 (https://flic.kr/p/qMqmjy) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
Snoozin
01-26-2015, 04:42 AM
...I wonder which shed it was found in....
Yoshimi Katayama's shed as I understand! Quite a feat to spirit a car of this level out of Japan, and I'm pretty excited to see (and hear!) it run.
Snoozin
01-26-2015, 04:46 AM
Few more randoms... I haven't really gone through them a lot, with plenty of other commitments requiring priority sorry!
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7488/16265635806_af1ecc94cd_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qMkCQE)IMG_8851 (https://flic.kr/p/qMkCQE) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7486/16104146688_9c98c62eac_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qx4XKw)IMG_8605 (https://flic.kr/p/qx4XKw) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8682/16290840492_afa82735ca_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qPyPjd)IMG_8697 (https://flic.kr/p/qPyPjd) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7555/16291148882_7a0f1b73b0_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qPAoZh)IMG_8655 (https://flic.kr/p/qPAoZh) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8599/16266069546_4b62af118b_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qMnRLW)IMG_8523 (https://flic.kr/p/qMnRLW) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7582/16290702861_7c40099730_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qPy7pg)IMG_7511 (https://flic.kr/p/qPy7pg) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
Jaydee
01-26-2015, 07:51 AM
Yes, warts, bangs, dents, bumps, welds and bodges and all...Rob Halliday even got underneath and pointed out his repair work from 1974...
Jaydee
01-26-2015, 07:53 AM
Brilliant pics...
Jaydee
01-26-2015, 07:53 AM
Now I am throwing my Nikon away...more great photos and thanks
crunch
01-26-2015, 09:04 AM
Few more randoms... I haven't really gone through them a lot, with plenty of other commitments requiring priority sorry!
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7582/16290702861_7c40099730_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qPy7pg)IMG_7511 (https://flic.kr/p/qPy7pg) by SnoozinRichy (https://www.flickr.com/people/61731054@N03/), on Flickr
For a man that has probably done more laps of HD than everyone else put together, I was distressed to see Tony Roberts still struggling at the hairpin and eventually spinning up. Tears welled in my eyes and I tried to suppress a sad smile when my 7 year old son then said...."Dad.....maybe that big chev has just got too much power for an old man to handle"
Don't worry Tony! I suitably disciplined him by buying him a 2 scoop ice-cream!
Steve Holmes
01-27-2015, 02:52 AM
For a man that has probably done more laps of HD than everyone else put together, I was distressed to see Tony Roberts still struggling at the hairpin and eventually spinning up. Tears welled in my eyes and I tried to suppress a sad smile when my 7 year old son then said...."Dad.....maybe that big chev has just got too much power for an old man to handle"
Don't worry Tony! I suitably disciplined him by buying him a 2 scoop ice-cream!
Ha ha ha, brilliant!
RacerT
01-28-2015, 12:50 AM
For a man that has probably done more laps of HD than everyone else put together, I was distressed to see Tony Roberts still struggling at the hairpin and eventually spinning up. Tears welled in my eyes and I tried to suppress a sad smile when my 7 year old son then said...."Dad.....maybe that big chev has just got too much power for an old man to handle"
Don't worry Tony! I suitably disciplined him by buying him a 2 scoop ice-cream!
]Hi Crunch. Better to be an old racer, than a middle aged spectator![/SIZE]
timbo61
01-28-2015, 03:42 AM
The entire production run of Lola T430's was at Hampton Downs.
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/248_zpsnbralzez.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/248_zpsnbralzez.jpg.html)
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timbo61
01-28-2015, 03:44 AM
And a few tasty powerplants.
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crunch
01-28-2015, 04:29 AM
]Hi Crunch. Better to be an old racer, than a middle aged spectator![/SIZE]
At least you said middle-aged! :rolleyes:
Lets change the venue to a back country road, the deep resonance of a turbo 2 litre 4WD and the sharp cackle of the anti-lag shattering the early morning silence. Sheep casually glancing towards the approaching dust cloud with a blue blur at the apex of this example of high technology battling the non-sanitised venue of the real world...scattering gravel like autumn leaves.....suddenly the middle-aged competitor relaxes for a brief second to wave to the old aged spectator, before continuing to master the laws of physics at 200kph with the skill of a matador.
He stands there agog, stunned by the bravery... in a cloud of dust with the morning sunlight piercing through like the three pronged spear of Maserati, reaches for his phone...waits for the connection and slowly smiles...
"Chris, Tony here...do you want to buy my McLaren? Yeah; I need to sell it so I can buy a rally car...it's real motorsport " :cool:
crunch
01-28-2015, 04:33 AM
The entire production run of Lola T430's was at Hampton Downs.
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/248_zpsnbralzez.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/248_zpsnbralzez.jpg.html)
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/228_zpsmdq6p9u7.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/228_zpsmdq6p9u7.jpg.html)
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/251_zpszwyaz5kh.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/251_zpszwyaz5kh.jpg.html)
I understand Dave Abbott owns the two red ones, who owns the white one?
timbo61
01-28-2015, 09:18 AM
I'm not sure, but the on-track commentators said that all 3 cars reside in Christchurch.
timbo61
01-28-2015, 09:24 AM
]Hi Crunch. Better to be an old racer, than a middle aged spectator![/SIZE]
Being a middle aged spectator, I can still work my way up to being an old racer. God knows, the amount of money I've spent attending motor racing events on both sides of the ditch, even as a spectator, I could probably afford an almost half decent MGB to go racing in.
Bailey
01-28-2015, 09:30 AM
At least you said middle-aged! :rolleyes:
Lets change the venue to a back country road, the deep resonance of a turbo 2 litre 4WD and the sharp cackle of the anti-lag shattering the early morning silence. Sheep casually glancing towards the approaching dust cloud with a blue blur at the apex of this example of high technology battling the non-sanitised venue of the real world...scattering gravel like autumn leaves.....suddenly the middle-aged competitor relaxes for a brief second to wave to the old aged spectator, before continuing to master the laws of physics at 200kph with the skill of a matador.
He stands there agog, stunned by the bravery... in a cloud of dust with the morning sunlight piercing through like the three pronged spear of Maserati, reaches for his phone...waits for the connection and slowly smiles...
"Chris, Tony here...do you want to buy my McLaren? Yeah; I need to sell it so I can buy a rally car...it's real motorsport " :cool:
hmmm.. Maybe you should set your alarm to go off a little earlier than it did today
Rod Grimwood
01-28-2015, 09:37 AM
All this from the Navi seat, that's why 'the middle aged man' can wave.
Well written though.
Binzy1
01-28-2015, 10:26 AM
I understand Dave Abbott owns the two red ones, who owns the white one?
Believe it's THE Stewart family of Chch.....
George Sheweiry
01-28-2015, 11:31 AM
At least you said middle-aged! :rolleyes:
Lets change the venue to a back country road, the deep resonance of a turbo 2 litre 4WD and the sharp cackle of the anti-lag shattering the early morning silence. Sheep casually glancing towards the approaching dust cloud with a blue blur at the apex of this example of high technology battling the non-sanitised venue of the real world...scattering gravel like autumn leaves.....suddenly the middle-aged competitor relaxes for a brief second to wave to the old aged spectator, before continuing to master the laws of physics at 200kph with the skill of a matador.
He stands there agog, stunned by the bravery... in a cloud of dust with the morning sunlight piercing through like the three pronged spear of Maserati, reaches for his phone...waits for the connection and slowly smiles...
"Chris, Tony here...do you want to buy my McLaren? Yeah; I need to sell it so I can buy a rally car...it's real motorsport " :cool:
Bloody Gravel Munchers!!!!
timbo61
01-28-2015, 08:50 PM
For a man that has probably done more laps of HD than everyone else put together, I was distressed to see Tony Roberts still struggling at the hairpin and eventually spinning up. Tears welled in my eyes and I tried to suppress a sad smile when my 7 year old son then said...."Dad.....maybe that big chev has just got too much power for an old man to handle"
Don't worry Tony! I suitably disciplined him by buying him a 2 scoop ice-cream!
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a542/timbo19611/449_zpsfhzgisms.jpg (http://s1283.photobucket.com/user/timbo19611/media/449_zpsfhzgisms.jpg.html)
timbo61
01-28-2015, 09:51 PM
Nearly. U.S. visitor Travis Engen in his Lotus 23 was able to take avoiding action and duck inside the Corvette.
Jaydee
01-29-2015, 12:36 AM
Biggest buzz, ever, sitting in the middle of a rolling start for Group C Cars. When those lights go out, the adrenaline, the sound and vibrations are something I'll never forget.
These cars were and are a very special part of 'modern' motorsport history. Great to see one here and hats off to Warwick for taking it on. I guess you all know its sister car won Le Mans in 1991 and here is Jonny Herbert doing a lap of honour in it at Le Sarthe in 2011. I was there and you have to imagine the sound. Great car, great driver, great team.
JD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81zhOQ5PvaE&x-yt-ts=1422411861&x-yt-cl=84924572
Shoreboy57
01-29-2015, 01:04 AM
Biggest buzz, ever, sitting in the middle of a rolling start for Group C Cars. When those lights go out, the adrenaline, the sound and vibrations are something I'll never forget.
These cars were and are a very special part of 'modern' motorsport history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81zhOQ5PvaE&x-yt-ts=1422411861&x-yt-cl=84924572
Would be great to see a Group C Porsche at next year's festival
Would be even greater to see an Aston Martin... (Winks at Jaydee...)
Jaydee
01-29-2015, 03:29 AM
27502Am working on it!
In the meantime for Shoreboy 57, here's a photo of yours truly giving Ziggi ('they don't like it up them Mr Mannering") Brun in his 962 a hurry up at Brands some years ago. It was about as close as I ever got to the back of a Group C Porsche (I got him at Clearways on this lap and then the engine let go pretty spectacularly at Paddock Hill bend - "Ron" wasn't happy with me).
The other one are the two Aston Group C cars at Snetterton. I think Ray Mallock is in the Nimrod so I must have been in the EMKA. Fabulous bloody things but how someone drove them for 24 hours, I have no idea. The understeer on the EMKA in particular on tight tracks was totally knackering.27501
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DewiAusTransAm
01-29-2015, 11:47 AM
HMC Week 1 Review in this week's Auto Action in Aus. Week 2 Review will be in next weekend's edition.
Also included review of F5000s and Week 1 of the Festival in general.
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Check this out - Bruce Manon driving Mike Sexton's Ford Escort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J42ayb1Js2A
Snoozin
01-30-2015, 08:00 AM
Holy cow! That MG vs Cobra could have been a lot worse!
Holy cow! That MG vs Cobra could have been a lot worse!
True. Our only two car contact of the weekend, so considering the size of the grids (and four handicap races), quite amazing. The MGB V8/Cobra crunched the MG's right front wing and the Cobra sustained a bit of damage to the RHR guard. The lime green MGB V8, overtaken on turn 1 (inexperienced competitor!) freaked out and just dinged the wall, so that was the sum total of our panel damage for the weekend.
Paul Wilkinson
01-30-2015, 08:35 AM
Great clip, also one of my favourite races of the day! That's one hell of a speed differential, I think you're right to say it's amazing more damage didn't occur. A couple of drivers looked a bit uncertain of what to do with a car coming up so quickly from behind. Bloody great from a spectator's viewpoint though. This and the class with the Corvette and 47 replica were my favourites by a long shot.
Yes, good fun, well driven, and jeez that Escort has got plenty of gnaw. But those ditherers you've mentioned Paul, are a huge hazard, do they not use their mirrors, or is it once-a-year drivers ?
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01-30-2015, 10:23 AM
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Andrew Metford
01-30-2015, 11:23 AM
Yes, good fun, well driven, and jeez that Escort has got plenty of gnaw. But those ditherers you've mentioned Paul, are a huge hazard, do they not use their mirrors, or is it once-a-year drivers ?
To be fair to the slower guys, this series usually comprises 2 separate races - the "fast" group, and the "slow" group, so the speed difference between fastest and slowest in each race is nowhere near as great. It is probably the very first time about the slowest quarter of this weekends' grid have been in a race with cars as fast as Mr Manon, so it must have been a bit of an eye opener for them at the pace at which he caught and passed them. I think everyone in ERC did a sensational job, some of the other classes, with half the number of cars on the track and no where near the speed difference, had far too much biff and barge for my liking and left me feeling rather dismayed at the often unnecessary carnage to what were immaculate cars at the start of proceedings.
DewiAusTransAm
01-31-2015, 06:33 AM
HMC/Trans-Am Week 1 Highlights Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSddBgZ5orE
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