Lakeside Classic September 2015, Festival of Sports and Racing cars,

[Roger Dowding]

Some scenes from Sunday 20th September;
The Tower
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Finish ;
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Ferrari F430 Peter Jones
The History Board. in the Museum .
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Alfa Romeo GTV 2000 Doug Stonehouse
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[Roger Dowding]

Italian challenge the start lap
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1962 GT Junior Ken Percival - place 5th
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Formula Vee BeeCee Jabiru Eddie McFaul
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more to come as I resize and name them ; Thanks to Cooper 997 have the entries and results from Natsoft Race Results.

[Roger Dowding]

More of the Italians - for Spgeti and others.
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[Roger Dowding]

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[Roger Dowding]

VW Kombi, early Splittie - because I owned a later one in the US in 1982
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MX5's as I still have an NA model BRG which needs work, back in NZ .
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Camaro just because I like them - it did the track run during lunch time break
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[Roger Dowding]

Single seaters HRCCQ class and FVee's
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[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Roger Dowding
Some scenes from Sunday 20th September;

The History Board. in the Museum .
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I wonder where they got my pictures?

Maybe they thought someone else took them?

[Roger Dowding]

I wonder where they got my pictures?

Maybe they thought someone else took them?

Ray, some great shots, ask them for permission and money !!
The museum is very small only 5 or 6 cars and three of these boards, track construction this one and the history of the track there should be more. all contained in the kitchen cafe area.

[Roger Dowding]

More some Fvee for John H, Italians for Spgeti, and some racing HRCCQ..
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[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Roger Dowding
Ray, some great shots, ask them for permission and money!
The museum is very small only 5 or 6 cars and three of these boards, track construction this one and the history of the track there should be more. all contained in the kitchen cafe area.

The two pics I can see of mine are the colour one of race starts...

Who runs the museum? I wouldn't ask for money, but I do want to be credited for the pics.

[Allan]

In post 9 second picture a red Alfa Sprint is chasing down a blue GTV. Sometime back an Australian company was fitting these little sprints with a 2.5 Alfa V6 and latter a Walkinshaw Holden V8. It was called the "Giocattolo". I don't know how many of either version were built or if any still exist. Apparently the V8 version had a performance akin to a F1 McLaren of the day. Spgeti is not the only one who enjoys the Italian machinery so thanks for posting these.

[Ray Bell]

When the owner of one of those Giocattolos got killed in it at Eastern Creek it was said that there had been about seven of them built, IIRC.

I haven't been to Lakeside since it reopened, but I see there are now garages strategically placed to spoil the easy viewing pleasure we used to have. It always amazed me that they built that 3-story building right in the middle of the paddock area where it would block the view of most people at the circuit in some way.

[Roger Dowding]

The two pics I can see of mine are the colour one of race starts...

Who runs the museum? I wouldn't ask for money, but I do want to be credited for the pics.

Ray, Queensland Raceway run the track as well as Ipswich.

just go to " queenslandraceway.com.au ". I am sure they will want to acknowledge the pictures, although it could be like Baypark, where according to BMC BOY, Peter Hanna requested pictures from anyone wanting to be treated as an acredited " race Photographer

[Roger Dowding]

In post 9 second picture a red Alfa Sprint is chasing down a blue GTV. Sometime back an Australian company was fitting these little sprints with a 2.5 Alfa V6 and latter a Walkinshaw Holden V8. It was called the "Giocattolo". I don't know how many of either version were built or if any still exist. Apparently the V8 version had a performance akin to a F1 McLaren of the day. Spgeti is not the only one who enjoys the Italian machinery so thanks for posting these.

Allan the car behind the Blue GTV is a Lancia, there was in post #3, bottom picture an Alfa with a very radical rear wing, not Giocattolo, but radical, it was quick car too !!.
think there are a couple more for the " Alfisti " in the forum, will check them out.
I also have specification sheets in four languages issued by Alfa Romeo in 1965 covering all their models, if you would like scans of these, send your E-mail via PM on the forum.
cheers, and glad you enjoy the Italians I did. There are some Alfa's in my thread " Monterey Historics 1982 ", more to come.

[Spgeti]

These great shots of the Italian Festival Roger. # 105 is a quick car and I love the colour scheme. There is one over here in the South Island painted in a similar scheme but a 1750GTV and not a step front. The blue GTV is painted a real rare colour and I have seen a concourse GTV2000 in the same colour in Tauranga. Very nice.

[Steve Holmes]

Brilliant photos and thread Roger, thanks so much for sharing.

[Allan]

Roger, you are right, looks like a Beta coupe. After more than 30 years dealing with and working on Italian stuff I should have looked a little closer. Same car also appears in post no 3 3rd photo.

[Roger Dowding]

Brilliant photos and thread Roger, thanks so much for sharing.

My pleasure, trying to get used to a new Canon Digital camera, with a reasonable lens set - 18-55 [ used in the pits ] and a 55 - 250 used on the track shots.

The ticket.

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[Roger Dowding]

Roger, you are right, looks like a Beta coupe. After more than 30 years dealing with and working on Italian stuff I should have looked a little closer. Same car also appears in post no 3 3rd photo.

All good there are a few more but not quite as clear, but will post anyway

[Roger Dowding]

Roger, you are right, looks like a Beta coupe. After more than 30 years dealing with and working on Italian stuff I should have looked a little closer. Same car also appears in post no 3 3rd photo.

a few more Italians - not a great shot, too much sun by then.
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[librules]

Re the Giacattolo here's a bit from Wiki (not my favourite source but it ties in with bits and pieces I've read elsewhere over the years)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giocattolo

The attached pic is from the car park outside the Sandown Historics in 2006. I've seen it there since in subsequent years.30509

PS: I love them.......

[Roger Dowding]

Re the Giacattolo here's a bit from Wiki (not my favourite source but it ties in with bits and pieces I've read elsewhere over the years)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giocattolo

The attached pic is from the car park outside the Sandown Historics in 2006. I've seen it there since in subsequent years.30509

PS: I love them.......

Yes, so do I, an Alfasud Sprint, which was not really an Alfa, according to some, but like this, one very cute car..

[Roger Dowding]

Some single seaters which I don't think got posted
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posted this one before
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there are a few more just need to edit them. the thread took a back seat for a while.

Waiting for next years series of Classic Historics at Lakeside.

Our mode of transport was less exciting.

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my brother in law enjoying the races in comfort.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Roger Dowding
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Roger, it looks like you have an auto-focus camera here...

It's latched onto the fence to focus and thus spoiled the focus on the cars. I hate auto-focus, you can't trust it, my SP500 has an option to disable it temporarily.

[Roger Dowding]

Roger, it looks like you have an auto-focus camera here...

It's latched onto the fence to focus and thus spoiled the focus on the cars. I hate auto-focus, you can't trust it, my SP500 has an option to disable it temporarily.

Ray, yes you are right, I haven't tried to use a manual setting yet as mainly been taking people and scenic photos. must practice before the next event,
cheers and thanks

Roger

[Ray Bell]

Auto focus cameras... the work of the devil!

And because they're so universally popular those of us who want to do better find it so much harder...

[Roger Dowding]

Auto focus cameras... the work of the devil!

And because they're so universally popular those of us who want to do better find it so much harder...

Ray am going to get organised to use the camera properly, giving myself a couple of months before the first Classic meeting, which will features Trans-Ams and I believe some of the Muscle cars from the NZ series, hopefully.
We will go on the Sunday most likely..
there are normally 3 meetings, March June and September as part of the Historic Classic Festivals.

[Ray Bell]

Roger, it's all a matter of what functions the camera allows...

My Olympus SP500 has a function where you can set a manual focus, it's a bit cumbersome but generally speaking for motor racing shots (not pit area shots) you only need to set it on or near infinity and you've got all you want.

Edit: I just went back and re-read that you have a DSLR, that should have a ready availability of manual focus.

[nigel watts]

Autofocus works just fine.
With most cameras you can activate the AF by depressing the shutter button halfway down, so you focus on the point you want in focus & then while still keeping your finger on the shutter release [half way depressed] recompose your picture to what you want in your final image. Once you know how to do it it's much quicker than manual focusing. As they say "practice makes perfect"
Hope this helps

[Ray Bell]

Auto focus is a total pain when it's the default...

Using the 'half depressed' method you really never know when the camera will decide to change the point of focus just as you shoot the photo... among other things.

The problem relates to when there's something closer to you than the subject to be photographed. Shooting past a fence, as shown on the previous page, past brush or trees, the camera can grab onto the closer object and your desired subject is then out of focus. And it's worse when you want to pan. Worse still when shooting through wire netting.

As I said, most motor racing photos are taken at or close to infinity, focussing in nice bright conditions will generally not see you changing focus with most lenses. Depth of field will give some flexibility.

If you look at the rear view pic of Peter Jones' Ferrari on the previous page you'll see that the best focus is on the Armco and the plastic barriers in the foreground. To get that shot by the 'half depressed' method would be impossible as the car is going past too fast. In fact, this would be the case in most motor racing shots.

The last pic on the previous page shows this to the greatest degree, the fence posts are sharp as can be and the cars totally blurred out. The other pics have the problem to a lesser degree. Had these shots been taken with the focus fixed, or hand adjusted, they would have been much better.

[Roger Dowding]

Ray and Nigel,
Thanks for your advice, I do need to get to know my camera, as want to take better photos than I currently do.
my old photos from Laguna Seca - the Monterey thread [ taken in 1982 ] and the more recent ones posted from Portland Raceway on Ken Hyndman's US thread were taken with a Canon AE1, that I bought new in 1982 used a standard lens in '82 and a long lens in '88, the long lens cost more than the camera.
The Lakeside photos taken with the new digital Canon EOS 700D, with a long lens 55-250 and were downloaded
Must get in some practice before March.

cheers to you both, and hopefully can post better images.

Roger

[timbo61]

The Lakeside Classic is being replaced by Historic Lakeside in 2016.
A full historic meeting with all historic classes. Should be a great meeting.

[Dale Harvey]

Yes, I am looking forward to having another run there. Last time was 2011. I hope it will become a regular event.
Dale.

[Roger Dowding]

Yes, I am looking forward to having another run there. Last time was 2011. I hope it will become a regular event.
Dale.

Dale, I will say hello, and take a photo or several of your car,
cheers, Roger

[Dale Harvey]

Good on ya.

[Roger Dowding]

Yes, I am looking forward to having another run there. Last time was 2011. I hope it will become a regular event.
Dale.

Dale H, what do you run, I went to Lakeside in 2011 for the July and August Classic meetings, missed the earlier one, March I think, as was still in Sydney.. will be there on Sunday 20th, barring a Hurricane or Storm..
look forward to catching up..

[Dale Harvey]

A group O racing car built in 1969 called the Proton. #96.
Dale.

[Roger Dowding]

A group O racing car built in 1969 called the Proton. #96.
Dale.

Will look out for you, good luck racing..

[Roger Dowding]

Moved to Queensland in May 2011, and living 40 minutes form the said track it was inevitable I would go there.
2011 was the Golden Anniversary and Four classic historic meetings were held, March then May - just missed that, but got to the July and August meetings, no photos just these some tickets and a hat to show for my visits.

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Have been to various meeting since 2012 to 2015 but no programmes like these with the history of the track and some great photos.
Thanks to the efforts of many the track still survives after a major rebuild in 2009, and the improvements are ongoing

[Roger Dowding]

Went to the Gold Coast Indy Carnival three times over its running this time April 1997, again in October 2003 ?? and again in around 2005.?? unsure of both years but have the hat badges from all three meetings !!

just a few shots from 1997

The program .. note American spelling !!
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some views of the Indy Cars in the pits
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to follow some closer shots of Indy Cars and a few others.

[Roger Dowding]

Some closer shots of the Indy Cars, Jourdain, Rahal and Vasser .

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Sports Sedans - the Ricciardello Alfa Chev and an RX7, unsure if Mazda rotary Chev or Leyland V8 powered ? as several in the programme ..
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Holden
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Cobra - think it was on the Indy run a rally in conjunction with the Carnival.
Nice car .
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End of the interlude, have few shots from 2003 but not very good.
There is one of Peter Brock though !!.

Lakeside will feature again after 20th March 2016 visit.

[Roger Dowding]

Moved to Queensland in May 2011, and living 40 minutes form the said track it was inevitable I would go there.
2011 was the Golden Anniversary and Four classic historic meetings were held, March then May - just missed that, but got to the July and August meetings, no photos just these some tickets and a hat to show for my visits.

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Have been to various meeting since 2012 to 2015 but no programmes like these with the history of the track and some great photos.
Thanks to the efforts of many the track still survives after a major rebuild in 2009, and the improvements are ongoing

The Norm Beechey Monaro came to New Zealand and featured in a video clip on TRS recently

[Roger Dowding]

March 2016, is the " Tribute " meeting and the" Classic " is in July, I may not get to the March meeting but the July should be a goer, hope to be there on the Sunday 17th.
Poster / Flyer for the meeting ;

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Just went through Sean McBride's threads on 2013 and 2014 events - great photos - hopefully there will be more of this years events ..

[Roger Dowding]

March 2016, is the " Tribute " meeting and the" Classic " is in July, I may not get to the March meeting but the July should be a goer, hope to be there on the Sunday 17th.
Poster / Flyer for the meeting ;

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Just went through Sean McBride's threads on 2013 and 2014 events - great photos - hopefully there will be more of this years events ..

Didn't make it to Lakeside this year for any of the Classic meetings but did get to a Classic and Hot Rod show at the new " Sandstone Point Hotel ", will post a few of the pictures ; Just have to name and resize ...

[Roger Dowding]

A Selection ; from the show on 25 September 2016.. just across the Bridge from the Island, used to be farm land and an old Oyster Shed, John Mck..

Fords, mainly and a couple of Dodge's ..
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[timbo]

I attended the Lakeside Classic (All Historic Race meeting) 2016 recently. Great day Saturday, drizzle all day Sunday, but a great track. We should all be thankful it is still up and running.

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[seaqnmac27]

A short clip I shot at the July 2015 Lakeside Classic meet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvkVjMYcIM4&feature=youtu.be

[Roger Dowding]

2011 was the Golden Anniversary - the Track which struggles at times is still going at 57 years on from 1961.

A photo Poster from Brian Ferrabee ;

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The 50th Anniversary Classic Historics Season was Three meetings and I got to Two of them - no camera though only the Programme's [ and tickets ] to show.
First meeting was in May and had only just arrived in Queensland, so missed out on attending.
Met Seaqnmac at one of the meetings in 2014/15.

July 2011

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Tickets from the last time I went - the " Italian Challenge "meeting September 2015 - my Birthday actually.

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[Roger Dowding]

Returning to Queensland in May 2020 for a holiday and catch up with family and friends - mainly Kiwi's .
Hope to get to Lakeside for a Sprint or Race meeting - understand the track has had noise issues in 2019 and had some meetings cancelled.
Brian Ferrabee [ a guy from Pirongia / Te Awamutu ] - who provided an image on this thread, is the Announcer there and siupporter of QR with Young Drivers.
Will try to catch up with him, just need to persuade the Brother-in-law to take me in his Toyota F86 Coupe.

Hope see some good racing, good cars.

A memory from 2015. A Chevron and a Brabham BT29 in the pits.

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Any TRS members would like to catch up when we get there - at the Track.

[Ray Bell]

Brian Ferrabee used to race a Clubman...

[Roger Dowding]

Brian Ferrabee used to race a Clubman...

Thought You would know him - a Graham Ferrabee raced a 30's V8 in NZ at some time 1960's or so -maybe a relation

[Roger Dowding]

2021 at Lakeside should be the 60th Anniversary Celebrations - hopefully with a series of Special Events as they did for the 50th in 2011.
Going through my archives - a collection of several boxes, came across this Poster.
as mentioned on " Motoring Books " thread attended the last two of the four events in 2011, plus others over the years 2011 to 2015/16.

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[Ray Bell]

I think I've seen a photo of that start at the bottom left...

Autopics should have it but I can't find it there.

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
I did not find that photo but I did find this interesting article with a photo right after the start of the 1966 Tasman Series race at Lakeside which was the 31st Australian Grand Prix.

https://primotipo.com/2020/02/22/1966-australian-grand-prix-lakeside/

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(Ken H )

[Ray Bell]

Ah yes, that's it... the photo at the top with the field starting to pour into the kink...

It was a good spot for taking photos, I took a similar one at the previous meeting when a heat the Australian Tourist Trophy started, but I got that from further up the hill:

https://i.postimg.cc/fTV1x6j5/TTstart.jpg

I must talk to Mark about crediting me with that AGP pic, the credit is in the book.

[Ray Bell]

Here's my AGP start photo:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRfDNcW1/1965-AGPstart.jpg