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bob homewood
07-23-2011, 08:32 AM
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Rhubarb 2 and 3 Bay Park
This from my third Season with Rhubarb 3 when I raced it with the 416b Hart based engine ,Tino had a Mazda rotary engine in Rhubarb 2

bob homewood
07-23-2011, 08:54 AM
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Well thats what I have been told ,any more information or corrections are welcome

bob homewood
07-23-2011, 09:10 AM
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This is part of a photo that was sent to me to identify ,I'm open to suggestions on this one

bob homewood
07-23-2011, 09:20 AM
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Colin Smith and Tom Donvan Sprite Timaru 1976

seaqnmac27
08-04-2011, 01:02 PM
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ok I have a few here, not sure what is what so I will let my learned colleagues judge

seaqnmac27
08-04-2011, 01:04 PM
A few more

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seaqnmac27
08-04-2011, 01:06 PM
Lastly

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David McKinney
08-04-2011, 04:11 PM
These all appear to be from the pre-SCANZ era, and most aren't 2-litre cars. Perhaps Steve would like to peel them off into another thread, and leave this one "pure"...

Either way -
Post 5: Lycoming Special No.1 (twice), an MGB GT, Rhubarb III? (Bob?), Ferrari 250LM, Scott Wiseman's E-type

Post 6: PMS-Climax?, JRM?, Lotus Seven 100 (Ross West?), Lancer 71, Wiseman again, JRM?

Post 7: first pic looks like a single-seater (which I can't identify), then Elfin or Gemco (they both at Gemco bodies at one stage, and I can't remember OTTOMH who ran 59)

bob homewood
08-07-2011, 04:16 AM
These all appear to be from the pre-SCANZ era, and most aren't 2-litre cars. Perhaps Steve would like to peel them off into another thread, and leave this one "pure"...

Either way -
Post 5: Lycoming Special No.1 (twice), an MGB GT, Rhubarb III? (Bob?), Ferrari 250LM, Scott Wiseman's E-type

Post 6: PMS-Climax?, JRM?, Lotus Seven 100 (Ross West?), Lancer 71, Wiseman again, JRM?

Post 7: first pic looks like a single-seater (which I can't identify), then Elfin or Gemco (they both at Gemco bodies at one stage, and I can't remember OTTOMH who ran 59)

David yes most of those photos are from a earlier time ,The Rhubarb 3 photo is possibly of Colin Smith

bob homewood
08-07-2011, 04:27 AM
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This is the Colour Scheme of Rhubarb 3 in the first season of my ownership
That photo is from Timaru from the meeting which the Australian cars came across to
contest ,the car behind is Jamie Aislabie in Sid 2

seaqnmac27
08-07-2011, 01:33 PM
Sorry first post of #7 is listed being the Terrapin engine bay

Carlo
08-07-2011, 06:00 PM
Would the Terrapin be the car of Kevin Ingram ?

kiwi285
08-07-2011, 07:38 PM
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This is the Colour Scheme of Rhubarb 3 in the first season of my ownership
That photo is from Timaru from the meeting which the Australian cars came across to
contest ,the car behind is Jamie Aislabie in Sid 2

Does the Sid 2 that Jamie Aislabie raced in this photo still exist in NZ ?

GD66
08-07-2011, 08:30 PM
These all appear to be from the pre-SCANZ era, and most aren't 2-litre cars. Perhaps Steve would like to peel them off into another thread, and leave this one "pure"...


Post 6: PMS-Climax?, JRM?, Lotus Seven 100 (Ross West?), Lancer 71, Wiseman again, JRM?

Post 7: first pic looks like a single-seater (which I can't identify), then Elfin or Gemco (they both at Gemco bodies at one stage, and I can't remember OTTOMH who ran 59)



Yes, I think the JRM is piloted by Bob Hyslop, he used to wear a half-bubble visor. Pedersen ran 59 in the Gemco I think.
Good crowd in at Pukekohe !

west17
09-11-2011, 02:07 PM
Post #2 is Rhubarb 1. Hi Bob I own this car and you helped me track down its history (Thanks). Dennis Dunbar purchases it from Adrian and Collin. Have more photos if anyone interested.

Rod Grimwood
09-11-2011, 07:37 PM
Always interested in photos west17. are you going to be running the car at any time.

bob homewood
09-12-2011, 05:29 AM
Post #2 is Rhubarb 1. Hi Bob I own this car and you helped me track down its history (Thanks). Dennis Dunbar purchases it from Adrian and Collin. Have more photos if anyone interested.

Thanks ,yes I remember chasing the history along when you were looking ,glad it was all worthwhile,by all means lets have a look at the other photos you have ,I have some more SCANZ ones I must put up as well

west17
09-15-2011, 02:07 PM
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west17
09-15-2011, 02:15 PM
From what I understand the true SCANZ series in the 2 litre format didint start untill 1972 although there was some form of a sportscar series running prior to its inception.

bob homewood
09-17-2011, 02:17 AM
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This was Rhubarb 3 in its final evolution in my ownership with 1860 cc 416b Hart based Twin Cam Engine,it was very much modified by that time

Gavin Bateman
10-19-2011, 09:54 AM
Hi, Following is a partial history of Rhubarb2 I wrote when I sold it. The car is currently for sale at www.can-amcars.com. I currently own Rhubarb4, and also had Rhubarb 5 for a while. It is now in Auckland but I can't remember who i sold it to.Last seen it was having new tub bits made by GLC. Rhubarb 3 is with Ralph Smith.
First mentioned as being built October 1974.
First raced at Manfield 14/15 December 1974 placing 7th.Driven by Colin Smith.
It was rebodied before its next race at Manfield January '75 placing 3rd
Then repainted in Auckland Building Society colours for Bay Park where it achieved pole position, 2nd place and a lap record.
Then raced at Pukekohe placing 3rd followed by Manfield placing 2nd & 3rd.
Overall acheiving 3rd in championship 1x7th,4x2nds,2x3rds, lap records at B.P. and Manfield and pole at B.P. and Ruapuna.

Advertised for sale end of '75 season.

Reappeared '79-80 in the hands of Tino Korzelius with rotary power, no mention of him using it much. Bought by Dave Bull September '82.Raced at Pukekohe 12 December '82 doing 1.19.3 before breaking a driveshaft.
Sold to Murray Low still with rotary power August '83, fitted with Nissan.
Raced Manfield 29/9/84 placing 7th,
Taupo 19/1/85 4th,
Manfield 9/2/85 9th,4th,
Bay Park 10/3/85 dnf
acheiving 7th overall in championship.

Sold to Trevor Larsen in '86 running Nissan SOHC
Raced Pukekohe 12/10/86 dns broken ignition
Taupo 23/11/86 placing 10th,10th,
Bay Park 30/11/86 6th, 5th,
Bay Park 24/3/87 DNF, 5th.
Sold April '87 to Chris Robertson who never used it, then to Andrew Blackberry who rebuilt it using Rhubarb 5's Mararn body modified, a new Mk8 Hewland and FJ20 Nissan power but didn't use it a lot due to engine problems, who then sold it to me.
I then fitted a Nissan SR20 engine, first running at a clubmans meeting 28/10/95 as a shakedown.
Pukekohe 12/12/95 Crashed in practise. Races red flagged and meeting cancelled due to inclement weather.
Manfeild 17/2/96 DNF broken ignition
Taupo 24/3/96 3rd , 3rd
Taupo 27/4/96 Peter Benbrook driving dnf (flat tyre) 7th
Manfeild 18/5/96 7th, 6th
Manfeild 5/10/96 clubmans, running off FF grid.
Manfeild 14/12/96 Richard Gillies driving. (No notes)
Manfeild 15/2/97 DNF flywheel bolts pulled out of crank
Taupo 22/3/97 4th ,3rd
Taupo 29/3/97 4th, 5th
Manfeild 19/4/97 reverse direction, raining, 2nd, 2nd ,3rd DNF while leading due to driver error.
Manfield 6/9/97 clubmans running off FF grid
Pukekohe 7/12/97 Peter Benbrook driving. DNF bodywork disintegration, 5th
Leased car to Steve Bullot
Taupo 5/12/98 DNS blown ignition
Pukekohe 13/12/98 3rd, 4th
Taupo 30/1/99 6th, DNF sick engine & blown diff
Dynoed & new diff
Taupo 21/2/99 DNF sheared driveshaft bolts
Car returned
Manfeild 16/5/99 clubmans (wet) running with FFs
Manfield 24/7/99 clubmans running with FFs
Fitted LSD
Taupo 4/12/99 3rd, 3rd

tonttu
11-25-2011, 09:56 AM
SCANZ at Ruapuna May 1974.
Ian Bisman
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Chamberlain
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Murray Baker in the Heron
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McLay Rayner Ford
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Frank Bray Bray SMP
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What were the Bisman and Chamberlain cars?

David McKinney
11-25-2011, 10:47 AM
The Bisman car was his GI37S, based on the Begg Mono
I can't see the Chamberlain car, bit IIRC he was racing a U2 at about that time

Steve Holmes
11-26-2011, 04:49 AM
You've got some neat photos in your collection tonttu.

Steve Holmes
11-26-2011, 04:52 AM
You'll like these Bob, they were sent to me by Warwick Clayton. He has a bunch more sports car photos. I can put you in touch with him if you like?

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bob homewood
11-28-2011, 06:56 AM
Thanks for that Steve I ,had heaps of folks asking me today who or what the hell was Wall Colmonoy,the Black and White photo doesn't really do justice to the paint job Steve Carted did on that car for me

Steve Holmes
11-28-2011, 08:48 PM
Even in the b/w photos the paint on that car really pops!

driftwood
12-29-2011, 10:31 PM
Rhubarb 3 looks a pretty car I presume you made your own body moulds
was the chassis space frame or had you created a monocoque?
what uprights brakes gearbox did you utilise?

jamie
12-31-2011, 11:05 PM
Yes SID 2 siill in NZ Peter Benbrook has it in Auckland Jamie A

Steve Holmes
05-18-2012, 12:30 AM
OK, my good buddy Warwick Clayton has emailed me a stack of photos for this thread, approx 45 altogether. So I'll start posting them, and let you guys do the captions. Will take a couple of days to get through them all!

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Steve Holmes
05-18-2012, 12:32 AM
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Steve Holmes
05-18-2012, 12:33 AM
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David Manton
05-20-2012, 10:39 PM
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Hi Steve, great images of the SCANZ cars. Are there ay pix of Russ Noble's Brabham-based Noble Special among the photographs you've received?
Cheers,
David Manton

markec
05-20-2012, 11:01 PM
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Steve Holmes
05-21-2012, 12:49 AM
Hi there David, I'm not actually sure. I don't have any pics of cars that look exactly like the one Mark has posted above, but there are some cars in the collection that share similarities, and I've not seen many photos of the car before to do a comparison.

Here are the next batch:

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8813

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8811

Steve Holmes
05-21-2012, 12:56 AM
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Steve Holmes
05-21-2012, 12:57 AM
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jamie
05-21-2012, 03:58 AM
Hi Steve wrote a big long post eirley today with names and all hit the wrong button bumer .But the phots are awsom will try and fill all the names tomorow Jamie

Steve Holmes
05-21-2012, 04:20 AM
Thanks Jamie, that would be great! I do recognise several of the cars, but would really appreciate your input, given your history in sports car racing. Would really love to know what car #39 in Post 37 is?

markec
05-21-2012, 04:46 AM
Posting #22, car 126, titled Murray Baker in the Heron, Murray told me today that it was him but it is the Noble he is driving, after an excursion through a fence at Puke.

jim short
05-21-2012, 09:47 AM
39 looks a bit like Teds Rorstan???

jamie
05-22-2012, 01:14 AM
Yes jim it is the RORSTAN but it is being driven by Bob More from Whakatane Jamie A

Steve Holmes
05-22-2012, 02:40 AM
Thanks guys.

Steve Holmes
05-22-2012, 02:41 AM
Here is the next batch:

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Steve Holmes
05-22-2012, 02:42 AM
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Steve Holmes
05-22-2012, 02:47 AM
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jim short
05-22-2012, 02:53 AM
Gee Jamie I will have go back again to tell him,,when you look you can tell its him allright

David Manton
05-22-2012, 03:29 AM
Hi there David, I'm not actually sure. I don't have any pics of cars that look exactly like the one Mark has posted above, but there are some cars in the collection that share similarities, and I've not seen many photos of the car before to do a comparison.

Here are the next batch:

8812

8813

8814

8811

Steve, Car number 5 in post #35 is the Noble Special in its last bodywork version (of about four variations?), it still has that number 5 on its bodywork today, plus the high-mounted mirrors. This image is before Russ Noble added the large McLaren rear wing still in McLaren gulf colours that George Begg brought back from England (which it also still has...) The Ford decal on the car's side refers to its Reg Cook 2-litre SOHC Ford screamer engine. - David Manton

Les Laidlaw
05-22-2012, 04:06 AM
Hi Steve,
They are great pic's
Post 30 & 35 car 9 is Warren Steel in Rhubarb 5.
The Brabham we pulled apart to build the Rhubard would be worth a small fortune if was complete today :)

Russ Noble
05-22-2012, 05:19 AM
Steve, Car number 5 in post #35 is the Noble Special in its last bodywork version (of about four variations?), it still has that number 5 on its bodywork today, plus the high-mounted mirrors. This image is before Russ Noble added the large McLaren rear wing still in McLaren gulf colours that George Begg brought back from England (which it also still has...) The Ford decal on the car's side refers to its Reg Cook 2-litre SOHC Ford screamer engine. - David Manton

That is John MacDonald in the car at that stage. I had sold it some time earlier. John's company was Intelex, which also sponsored the series. John fitted the larger wing.

Russ Cunningham
05-22-2012, 05:54 AM
Hi, Following is a partial history of Rhubarb2 I wrote when I sold it. The car is currently for sale at www.can-amcars.com. I currently own Rhubarb4, and also had Rhubarb 5 for a while. It is now in Auckland but I can't remember who i sold it to.Last seen it was having new tub bits made by GLC. Rhubarb 3 is with Ralph Smith.
First mentioned as being built October 1974.
First raced at Manfield 14/15 December 1974 placing 7th.Driven by Colin Smith.
It was rebodied before its next race at Manfield January '75 placing 3rd
Then repainted in Auckland Building Society colours for Bay Park where it achieved pole position, 2nd place and a lap record.
Then raced at Pukekohe placing 3rd followed by Manfield placing 2nd & 3rd.
Overall acheiving 3rd in championship 1x7th,4x2nds,2x3rds, lap records at B.P. and Manfield and pole at B.P. and Ruapuna.

Advertised for sale end of '75 season.

Reappeared '79-80 in the hands of Tino Korzelius with rotary power, no mention of him using it much. Bought by Dave Bull September '82.Raced at Pukekohe 12 December '82 doing 1.19.3 before breaking a driveshaft.
Sold to Murray Low still with rotary power August '83, fitted with Nissan.
Raced Manfield 29/9/84 placing 7th,
Taupo 19/1/85 4th,
Manfield 9/2/85 9th,4th,
Bay Park 10/3/85 dnf
acheiving 7th overall in championship.

Sold to Trevor Larsen in '86 running Nissan SOHC
Raced Pukekohe 12/10/86 dns broken ignition
Taupo 23/11/86 placing 10th,10th,
Bay Park 30/11/86 6th, 5th,
Bay Park 24/3/87 DNF, 5th.
Sold April '87 to Chris Robertson who never used it, then to Andrew Blackberry who rebuilt it using Rhubarb 5's Mararn body modified, a new Mk8 Hewland and FJ20 Nissan power but didn't use it a lot due to engine problems, who then sold it to me.
I then fitted a Nissan SR20 engine, first running at a clubmans meeting 28/10/95 as a shakedown.
Pukekohe 12/12/95 Crashed in practise. Races red flagged and meeting cancelled due to inclement weather.
Manfeild 17/2/96 DNF broken ignition
Taupo 24/3/96 3rd , 3rd
Taupo 27/4/96 Peter Benbrook driving dnf (flat tyre) 7th
Manfeild 18/5/96 7th, 6th
Manfeild 5/10/96 clubmans, running off FF grid.
Manfeild 14/12/96 Richard Gillies driving. (No notes)
Manfeild 15/2/97 DNF flywheel bolts pulled out of crank
Taupo 22/3/97 4th ,3rd
Taupo 29/3/97 4th, 5th
Manfeild 19/4/97 reverse direction, raining, 2nd, 2nd ,3rd DNF while leading due to driver error.
Manfield 6/9/97 clubmans running off FF grid
Pukekohe 7/12/97 Peter Benbrook driving. DNF bodywork disintegration, 5th
Leased car to Steve Bullot
Taupo 5/12/98 DNS blown ignition
Pukekohe 13/12/98 3rd, 4th
Taupo 30/1/99 6th, DNF sick engine & blown diff
Dynoed & new diff
Taupo 21/2/99 DNF sheared driveshaft bolts
Car returned
Manfeild 16/5/99 clubmans (wet) running with FFs
Manfield 24/7/99 clubmans running with FFs
Fitted LSD
Taupo 4/12/99 3rd, 3rd

Gavin,
When Dave Bull sold this car it was a roller. I bought the 10A to put into my Rideon mower and later sold it to a bloke in the Sth. Is. who was a tosser to deal with.

Steve Holmes
05-22-2012, 06:10 AM
Steve, Car number 5 in post #35 is the Noble Special in its last bodywork version (of about four variations?), it still has that number 5 on its bodywork today, plus the high-mounted mirrors. This image is before Russ Noble added the large McLaren rear wing still in McLaren gulf colours that George Begg brought back from England (which it also still has...) The Ford decal on the car's side refers to its Reg Cook 2-litre SOHC Ford screamer engine. - David Manton

Thanks David. I thought that could have been the same car, as the bodywork is similar to the pic posted my Markec earlier in this thread, but I still wasn't sure because the rollcage is different, as is some of the bodywork at the windscreen area.

Steve Holmes
05-22-2012, 06:11 AM
Hi Steve,
They are great pic's
Post 30 & 35 car 9 is Warren Steel in Rhubarb 5.
The Brabham we pulled apart to build the Rhubard would be worth a small fortune if was complete today :)

Thanks for that info Les, that really is a pretty car!

woody
05-22-2012, 06:13 AM
Russ, How long did it take you too mow the lawns?

Steve Holmes
05-22-2012, 06:14 AM
Next batch. I just love that little Suzuki Special:

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jamie
05-22-2012, 08:34 PM
That suzuki was run and built by Dave Brution from hamilton and went real good.The photo of Rubarb 5 car No 59 was Nevil Hill from Tamanui. The photo of sid 3 carring No 3 that was at Manfeild on its first outing 1980. Thanks Steve there so meny shots of SID 2 that I have never seen there is one even with my dad standing alongside on the dummy grid at baypark 1977 3 weeks before he passed away JAMIE

markec
05-23-2012, 06:34 AM
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GeebeeNZ
05-23-2012, 06:51 AM
That suzuki was run and built by Dave Brution from hamilton and went real good. JAMIE

I believe Dave still has that car. His brother told me about one occasion the two stroke actually started and ran the opposite way. Luckily Dave realised before he dropped the clutch off the grid. Graeme

markec
05-23-2012, 07:04 AM
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bigbanger
05-23-2012, 01:25 PM
I think car 88 in posts 37 and 46 was Robert Archibald's 'Archibald' which appeared to a front engined clubmans type given the rear engine style full body treatment.
Any details or comments?

David McKinney
05-23-2012, 03:16 PM
88 was always Morrie Hogan's number. The car depicted is one of his Mallock U2s (with one-off bodywork), but I'm not sure which

jamie
05-23-2012, 08:44 PM
Yes Dave you are right 88 was always Morrie,s number I rember that car well we all caled it Morrie,s 1944 landing barge which caused Morrie to give the look all in good fun .Also Dave Manton is A bit off with russ Noble russ had A Lotus Twin Cam in it and John Macdonald had the 2 let ford in it Jamie

markec
05-24-2012, 05:16 AM
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Steve Holmes
05-24-2012, 07:55 AM
Great stuff guys, glad you're enjoying them, thanks heaps for all the info coming through. Its really great.

Winding down towards the end now, heres the next batch:

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bigbanger
05-24-2012, 08:08 AM
David, Jamie, thanks for the clarification re Morrie Hogan. I do recall Robert Archibald having something similar, but the passage of time over the last 30 + years dims the details somewhat.

David McKinney
05-24-2012, 05:42 PM
Archibald's car was the Kimac. Have to confess I can't remember what it looked like though (and it's not clear from Vercoe's book)

jamie
05-24-2012, 08:16 PM
LOW blow Mark thay say grass does not grow on A busy street?? The 2 front engine cars No99 are eather Linsay Mcution or
Ian Mcaffer the second No 8 could be Bruce Egder ?? Bob Archibalds was not un silmer and had A lotus twin cam in it and it looked much better than Morries but Morrie did A lot more events

markec
05-24-2012, 08:36 PM
Don't worry Jamie, I've had no hair on top since I was 22.

Steve Holmes
05-24-2012, 08:43 PM
These are the last of them guys, the final one is just for you Jamie! Special thanks to Warrick Clayton for allowing me to post these.

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jamie
05-24-2012, 08:52 PM
Thanks Steve The old SID No1 at Levin 1972. Once again Steve and Bob what A trip down memory lane???

Steve Holmes
05-24-2012, 08:59 PM
Thanks Jamie. Did you sometimes race that car without the windscreen?

Steve Holmes
05-24-2012, 09:00 PM
Is car #20 in post 69 the Noble in another of its guises?

jamie
05-24-2012, 11:21 PM
Hi Steve only at verry early hilcimbs 1970.A soon as it went Puke it had the windscreen. Car 20 lookes like the Noble as it has Brabham4 Spoke wheel .s ?? it also looks like the Heron so now I am lost!!

jamie
05-24-2012, 11:28 PM
Steve it is the Noble you have an earleyer shot on page 2 that is definatly High Pockets.

waldyone
05-25-2012, 12:17 AM
The Chamberlain car is the ex Dave Waldron Mk5 U2 that won the NZRDC championship in 1972. The car is now on the Sunshine Coast Queensland and is now for sale.

timbo61
05-25-2012, 03:11 AM
In post No. 30, the United sponsored sports car surfaced at the Bruce McLaren Festival at Pukekohe a couple of years ago.
The chassis was restored, but the rest of the car had a long way to go. At least its still around.

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jamie
05-25-2012, 03:19 AM
The old GEMCO of Gary Pederson I have been told it had been sold to the USA ????

Dave Silcock
05-25-2012, 05:04 AM
The old GEMCO of Gary Pederson I have been told it had been sold to the USA ????

Hi Guys, I always thought that the Gemco was built from the Lotus 19b that John Riley created from his 18/20 single seater. Gray Mathias bought all of that and the remains of the single seater and Peter Bruin and Geoff Manning rebuilt it in its original guise. I built two Climax engines for that car one a 1500 ex Roger Munns and later a 1800 something with hot cams and stuff. This was later sold off to the UK and was claimed to be the missing 18 that Moss drove and Tony Shelly aquired in 18/20 form. Come in David of the warm beer brigade, what say you.

Russ Noble
05-25-2012, 06:49 AM
Is car #20 in post 69 the Noble in another of its guises?

Definitely the Noble with the body mods I made for the last half of the championship. I was continually trying to improve its performance. Car was bought in this form by Dave Lester but was usually raced by Murray Baker who I think might be driving here, although Dave did drive it ocasionally. Murray later fitted the body from the Heron for whatever reason.I think he may also have changed the one person roll protection to full width. Then the car wound up with John MacDonald who swapped out the Twin Cam and MK5 Hewland for a 2 litre SOHC and HD5 Hewland.

John H
05-25-2012, 07:00 AM
I was asked to race Peter Bruin's car at Puke I think about 1974. Just one race. I think I came in about 5-6th. I may even have a program somewhere. Will take a look to find it as it will give all details of that day. The chicanes were still in place at that stage. Cheers John H
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David McKinney
05-25-2012, 07:03 AM
Hi Guys, I always thought that the Gemco was built from the Lotus 19b that John Riley created from his 18/20 single seater. Gray Mathias bought all of that and the remains of the single seater and Peter Bruin and Geoff Manning rebuilt it in its original guise. I built two Climax engines for that car one a 1500 ex Roger Munns and later a 1800 something with hot cams and stuff. This was later sold off to the UK and was claimed to be the missing 18 that Moss drove and Tony Shelly aquired in 18/20 form. Come in David of the warm beer brigade, what say you.
That's about it. Now owned by a friend of mine, and has a 'Tasman' 2.5 back in place, which means it can beat the 1500s. Never heard of any Moss connection though, either in 1962 or more recently

bigbanger
05-25-2012, 11:34 AM
Jamie, is there a story behind SID 1's windscreen? It sort of looks as if it might have aeronautical origins?

rf84
05-25-2012, 08:47 PM
Jamie. Think you are correct. Car #99 is probably Ian McAffer as Lindsay McCutcheon always raced with "KB Motors" (Ford dealers in Dannevirke) sponsorship/signage. Also never remember Lindsay running the 'lip' under the nose.

rf84
05-25-2012, 08:57 PM
The "Mills" sponsored U2 is ex- Hawkes Bay. "Mill's" was a shoe shop in Hastings. Think the driver is probably Trent Simmiss who went on to do quite well in F3 in the UK. If I'm correct this is the ex Malcolm Webb, Dick Tripp ("Flowerlands"), Brian Whittington Mk8 car that is now with Jamie A?

GD66
05-25-2012, 10:32 PM
Jamie, is there a story behind SID 1's windscreen ?





Good question ! I always thought it looked like it came off a Fletcher cropduster...:p

jamie
05-25-2012, 10:59 PM
Morning guys the winscreen came from Victor Air Turer the plane was made in Hamilton in the late 60 earley 70.Yes rf84 I have figered that as well and I was going to ask Weeb,y when I go wellington next month I will drink his coffie and eat all his bickey,s

rf84
05-26-2012, 04:20 AM
Coffee and bikkies? Hell Jamie are we talking about the same Webby? The one who could get about 6 of the F word and 3 of the C word into each and every sentence? He must be getting old!

ElCoyote
05-26-2012, 05:20 AM
[QUOTE=jamie;14535]LOW blow Mark thay say grass does not grow on A busy street??

Geez Jamie, you guys could sure strut your stuff in the 1930"s. Have you retrieved your photos yet. Looking forward to them. How about a thread on Lester.

Spider Jnr

jamie
05-26-2012, 06:56 PM
Good Morning ELCoyote Rf84 Yes WEBB.y the one and the SAME he has Improved over the yeaars. AS for you USA Dog at least thay had Photos when I was Hatched ??? yes Bass has and thay Awsom When I figure ouy how to put them on the site I will DO .

Nzwomble
07-31-2012, 08:22 AM
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jamie
07-31-2012, 08:09 PM
SID Mk11 BOB HARDON Bay Park Jamie

Nzwomble
08-01-2012, 08:27 AM
SID Mk11 BOB HARDON Bay Park Jamie

Thought you might like this one. Great thread, the Old Man would have given you shit re-spelling mistake (Harden). This is the only photo I have of the car in red. Have a few more in BP colours with Smurf's on the front. Tried to buy the car off Peter Benbrook about twenty years ago but he wasn't interested in selling. Not sure if he still has it. Geoff Harden.

Oldfart
08-01-2012, 08:50 AM
Thought you might like this one. Great thread, the Old Man would have given you shit re-spelling mistake (Harden). This is the only photo I have of the car in red. Have a few more in BP colours with Smurf's on the front. Tried to buy the car off Peter Benbrook about twenty years ago but he wasn't interested in selling. Not sure if he still has it. Geoff Harden.

Believe he has!

jamie
08-01-2012, 09:06 AM
Thay tell me he has SID Mk1 as well .Sorry for the spelling Jamie

Russ Cunningham
08-03-2012, 06:06 AM
Thought you might like this one. Great thread, the Old Man would have given you shit re-spelling mistake (Harden). This is the only photo I have of the car in red. Have a few more in BP colours with Smurf's on the front. Tried to buy the car off Peter Benbrook about twenty years ago but he wasn't interested in selling. Not sure if he still has it. Geoff Harden.

Geoff... your dad would have loved the spelling mistake. Bob would have taken it as a compliment. Still got his "James Hunt" suit? What a poser!!!

Wal Will
08-03-2012, 06:36 AM
I've just had a quick run through this site, and although I was not in N.Z. at the time I always thought that yet another change of the regulations had killed cars like the McBegg and made people chop up cars like Brabham BT21's,(Ian Bisman canbalised his Begg Twin cam) and so on, but in hindsight it created another era of cars.
The plus of it was that it made people 'create' and 'think outside the sqare'.
As a group of enthusiasts have we lost this challenge forever.
I love 'historic racing' because it preserves the creativity that existed back then. It would be so nice to see a new class started with a 'Donor' car as a basis (say a Suzuki Swift) and as few as 'rules' as possible. Then turn up and 'Run what you brung'. Maybe we could get the next generation to start thinking again.

Oldfart
08-03-2012, 07:48 AM
I've just had a quick run through this site, and although I was not in N.Z. at the time I always thought that yet another change of the regulations had killed cars like the McBegg and made people chop up cars like Brabham BT21's,(Ian Bisman canbalised his Begg Twin cam) and so on, but in hindsight it created another era of cars.
The plus of it was that it made people 'create' and 'think outside the sqare'.
As a group of enthusiasts have we lost this challenge forever.
I love 'historic racing' because it preserves the creativity that existed back then. It would be so nice to see a new class started with a 'Donor' car as a basis (say a Suzuki Swift) and as few as 'rules' as possible. Then turn up and 'Run what you brung'. Maybe we could get the next generation to start thinking again.

A fair few years back a group of us tried to get a class going almost like this but with a hint of 750 motor club using Toyota 4k mechanicals. It looked to be going great guns, then went like a damp squib.

jamie
08-03-2012, 09:49 PM
Yo Oldfart what happend you are righi the class semed to die over night there were some nice cars JamieA

Nzwomble
08-04-2012, 04:33 AM
Geoff... your dad would have loved the spelling mistake. Bob would have taken it as a compliment. Still got his "James Hunt" suit? What a poser!!!

Yes you are right he would have loved it. I have great memories of the banter between all of them. Yep I've still got the "James Hunt" suit. He did have Race Tape over the name. Not sure what to do with them as they don't fit me.

Grant Ellwood
08-06-2012, 10:34 PM
Yes you are right he would have loved it. I have great memories of the banter between all of them. Yep I've still got the "James Hunt" suit. He did have Race Tape over the name. Not sure what to do with them as they don't fit me.
Is that a genuine James Hunt suit?

GeebeeNZ
08-07-2012, 07:01 AM
Does anyone have any photos of the Maral SP250 that was built and raced in Scanz in the early 1970s Raced by Greg Napper.
Vercoe relates it to the U2 but it was in fact built by Mark Lamberton from the origional Valour raced by Jim Boyd. It had a single seat GEMCO style body. I understand that inspite of its name it had nothing to do with the Daimler SP250.

Nzwomble
08-07-2012, 07:55 AM
Is that a genuine James Hunt suit?

Hi yes it is. Simpson 5 layer nomex. Marlboro McLaren colours. Some of the embroidery has been removed as Bob didn't want to be too pretentious.

Russ Noble
08-07-2012, 09:57 AM
This is the only photo I have of Mark. Out of Motoraction I think.

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jamie
08-07-2012, 08:46 PM
Yo ! High Pocket,s good to see you on TRS Jamie A

John H
08-13-2012, 08:30 AM
Just for interest. Who was the u2 driver who ended up in the water? He lost it coming out of the chicane near the pits...

taliesin 1
08-26-2012, 09:30 PM
is number 6 in top Frame the Taliesin 1 ?

jamie
08-27-2012, 03:24 AM
No the Taliesin was front Engine like all G B,s cars Jamie

taliesin 1
08-27-2012, 04:15 AM
sorry i meant the pick with two similar cars 6 and 8 and Coca-Cola in back ground.

Steve Holmes
08-27-2012, 04:17 AM
Tallesin, there should be an option at the bottom of the post you're referring to that says "Reply With Quote". If you click that, hopefully, the picture and text from that post should appear in your new post.

jamie
08-27-2012, 08:27 PM
Yes I have gone back and had A look and that is the Tallesin 1 G B has beene looking at the site along with Ross Monk so ypy mite get A reply from Gerard him self Jamie A

Russ Cunningham
08-28-2012, 05:44 AM
Yes I have gone back and had A look and that is the Tallesin 1 G B has beene looking at the site along with Ross Monk so ypy mite get A reply from Gerard him self Jamie A

AMAZING!!! Ross Monk still alive and I thought he died under a table at Manfeild clubrooms.

jamie
08-28-2012, 07:51 AM
No Russ he just looks that way ?. Had A few dinkeys with Bob Homewood Gearad Barker And Ross Monk on sunday night we held our side up pritty well !!A good night ALL Round good Food suplyed by the Butiful Beulaha Jamie A

ElCoyote
08-28-2012, 06:33 PM
No Russ he just looks that way ?. Had A few dinkeys with Bob Homewood Gearad Barker And Ross Monk on sunday night we held our side up pritty well !!A good night ALL Round good Food suplyed by the Butiful Beulaha Jamie A

On Saturday morning you looked like you had a few Friday as well

Carlo
08-28-2012, 07:33 PM
Walked into a Dunedin workshop last Monday and there sitting on stands being fettled was Rhubarb 3.

jamie
08-28-2012, 10:29 PM
Your not wrong USA DOG there was no Homewood so had to do it allover again wasent I A good boy JAMIE A
P/S I will tell Ross! Carlo he was asking where it was Jamie

bob homewood
08-29-2012, 06:56 AM
Jamie ,yes that was a good catch up ,well overdue I must add ,we should have had it on tape ,well maybe not quite all of it ,but seriously there was a lot of racing experience and miles there together the other night ,we only needed the gentleman who called briefly into my shop today to be there as well and I am sure the night would have been a lot longer


Your not wrong USA DOG there was no Homewood so had to do it allover again wasent I A good boy JAMIE A
P/S I will tell Ross! Carlo he was asking where it was Jamie

jamie
08-29-2012, 08:00 PM
ARR Bob that wasent our old mate Charliy B Was it Jamie

Carlo
08-30-2012, 05:12 AM
Have sent you a PM Jamie

Carlo

jamie
09-05-2012, 08:15 PM
M<orning Carlo thanks verry much but could you check the phone N/o I had a nice convication with a lovley Lady Jamie

Russ Noble
09-07-2012, 05:42 PM
Jamie, why am I not surprised that you have been convicted with a lovely lady! :rolleyes:

Carlo
09-07-2012, 08:53 PM
M<orning Carlo thanks verry much but could you check the phone N/o I had a nice convication with a lovley Lady Jamie

Change the order of the 3 and the 9 and the tail of the phone number Jamie, that should do the trick.

Carlo

jamie
10-19-2012, 04:30 AM
Hi Gang I am Back Beene in the US for the last 6 Weeks JamieA

ElCoyote
10-20-2012, 02:11 AM
Hi Gang I am Back Beene in the US for the last 6 Weeks JamieA

Welcome back Uncle, we will speak next week when you have sorted your clients out

Russ Cunningham
10-20-2012, 07:19 AM
Welcome back Uncle, we will speak next week when you have sorted your clients out

I've been mislead! I always thought Ilya Kuryakin was "uncle".
(Could be wrong with the spelling but that's normal in international espionage)

stubuchanan
10-20-2012, 08:09 AM
I've been mislead! I always thought Ilya Kuryakin was "uncle".
(Could be wrong with the spelling but that's normal in international espionage)

No, he was only the messenger (The Man from U.N.C.L.E.)

Stu

Steve Holmes
10-21-2012, 09:30 AM
Good to see you back again Jamie. Lifestyles of the rich and famous aye?

ElCoyote
10-22-2012, 05:21 AM
No, he was only the messenger (The Man from U.N.C.L.E.)

Stu

Or you read Robert Ludlum. I think jamie is more like 99

Russ Cunningham
10-22-2012, 06:18 AM
Or you read Robert Ludlum. I think jamie is more like 99

Do you mean 69?

jamie
10-23-2012, 03:19 AM
Thank,s gang it is nice to feel wanted Jamie A

tsillay
12-20-2012, 10:26 PM
Hi Jamie

I've enjoyed watching watched your exploits over the years. Tell us about the 'concept' you're currently running. Are these based on a Mk28 chassis?

jamie
12-22-2012, 12:31 AM
Hi Tsillay ,Yes that is corect We bought the Car of Ray Jones who hah never run the car it was less motor, box So Son Darren and I striped it complety and started again changing the odd thing. I has been Rocket from day one on Pole at Bay Park first day out
Jamie A

tsillay
12-22-2012, 07:20 AM
14656Jamie

I've always had a soft spot for the Mallocks.
I'm halfway through a Mk31 build and have aspirations of hillclimb grandeur.

Are you up for a yak?
tsillay@gmail.com

Tim Sillay

jamie
12-22-2012, 11:34 PM
I will try and put some phots off SID 111 being rebuilt it is A Mk8b with A tubo Twin Cam 1430 Lotus whitch I ran in the 1980's
JAMIE A

markec
01-27-2013, 10:04 PM
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01-30-2013, 10:00 AM
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jamie
01-31-2013, 01:19 AM
Thanks Markec for posting the picts makes feel old BUT BY j,, did we have fun thanks JAMIE A

Russ Cunningham
01-31-2013, 05:02 AM
Thanks Markec for posting the picts makes feel old BUT BY j,, did we have fun thanks JAMIE A

You are old!

Allan
01-31-2013, 09:20 AM
Can anyone identify car 13 in post 30 and car 16 in post64.
Thanks Allan

jamie
01-31-2013, 09:08 PM
Yes Allen. Car no13 is JOHN McLELLAND LOLA 212. Car No16 is ROS MONK RHUBARB No3. Thay still live Welleywood
Jamie A

ERC
02-01-2013, 05:46 AM
Yes Allen. Car no13 is JOHN McLELLAND LOLA 212. Car No16 is ROS MONK RHUBARB No3. Thay still live Welleywood Jamie A
I remember towing that (engineless) Lola 212 from Cheshire to Nottingham, behind an 1160cc Mini... Apparently it is now almost fully restored - but won't be raced.

ElCoyote
02-01-2013, 07:57 AM
Yes Allen. Car no13 is JOHN McLELLAND LOLA 212. Car No16 is ROS MONK RHUBARB No3. Thay still live Welleywood
Jamie A

I'm surprised you can remember that Uncle we never left the nightclub uintil 4:30 and could hardly stand at drivers briefing;-)

markec
02-04-2013, 08:35 AM
Currently listed as for sale in the For Sale" section of The Roaring Season

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BWilliams
02-04-2013, 10:01 AM
Looks like I'm going to be too slow to get a drive in it!

jamie
02-05-2013, 02:30 AM
Hi Gang there is A good shot of that car at TIMARU beeing lapped by me in S.I.D 1. is the car still in Ausi Jamie A

jamie
02-05-2013, 02:36 AM
Mr USA Dog Who has ALZEIMERS at least I was At the Meeting and you dident SHOW 3-4 02 2013 Rose bank Rd Auckland ????
Jamie A

ElCoyote
02-06-2013, 01:24 AM
Sorry about the no show but after being allowed to attend The Denny memorial I was pushing my luck to go two weekends. There was an absence of Roaring Season t-shirts to be seen on the second weekend. Disappointed!!

Will be at AKL have no fear.

markec
02-06-2013, 03:46 AM
The U2 has been restored by Dave Waldron who now lives in Queensland, Jamie.

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02-18-2013, 11:09 PM
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02-18-2013, 11:15 PM
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02-19-2013, 07:58 PM
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Well thats what I have been told ,any more information or corrections are welcome

This was Grant [Sprague] & Jamie at Bay Park My SCANZ car is called a merlyn built in the deep south as a U2 in the early 70's then Dave & Lawrence Brown ran it in SI Im certain friend Barry Turner [Timaru] Built this beautiful body & put a 2ooo nissan cook motor in it , I bought it & did on & off meetings Taupo, Bay Park & manfield , the chassis was fantastic stopped & turned

jamie
02-24-2013, 08:58 PM
Hi Grant Good to see you burst in to print long time no see Jamie A

Grant Sprague
02-25-2013, 01:49 AM
Hi Grant Good to see you burst in to print long time no see Jamie A

Hey Jamie thanks for the welcome , last time we had a quick catch up was at Hampton Downs yr boy was cleaning up that day , I have visited that place twice Kind Regards Grant

David Manton
03-01-2013, 02:06 AM
Great images of SCANZ cars from the 1970s (?)in posts #148 and #149...Can anyone confirm the identify of the drivers and the cars? David Manton

jamie
03-01-2013, 03:48 AM
Yes David .No 1Tom Donavan N02 John Mc Donald & Bob Hyslop N03 Ian Bisman N04 ME Jamie Aislabie No4 Bob Homewood No6 Bob Hyslop John Mc Donald N07 Morie Hogan & Lester Reder RIP. No8 Tom Donavan N09 Bob Homewood N010 Nevil Hill ? poss Waren Steele No11 Colin Smith Tom Donavan Sorry missed one Teno Korneseils has the crane ad on it Jamie A

markec
03-01-2013, 05:50 AM
Hi Gang there is A good shot of that car at TIMARU beeing lapped by me in S.I.D 1. is the car still in Ausi Jamie A
Yes Jamie Dave live in Queensland

jamie
03-01-2013, 08:24 PM
Hi Gang I have an E/M adds for Dave Waldron if any one would like it Jamie A

Les Laidlaw
03-01-2013, 09:15 PM
Yes David .No 1Tom Donavan N02 John Mc Donald & Bob Hyslop N03 Ian Bisman N04 ME Jamie Aislabie No4 Bob Homewood No6 Bob Hyslop John Mc Donald N07 Morie Hogan & Lester Reder RIP. No8 Tom Donavan N09 Bob Homewood N010 Nevil Hill ? poss Waren Steele No11 Colin Smith Tom Donavan Sorry missed one Teno Korneseils has the crane ad on it Jamie A

Yes Jamie, car #9 was Warren Steel, it was the first outing for Rhubarb 5.....not sure of the year but it would have been around 76/77. it was the only time it ran with a full width front splitter. It was a pretty quick gigger when we got it sorted towards the end of the season......... I remember doing the cam timing "in situ" in the Manfield stables with you

jamie
03-01-2013, 11:41 PM
Hi Les how are you yes thay were fun times O for only half the enegey now are you still with the boys if so have A good weekend Jamie A

Peter Nash
06-18-2013, 11:51 AM
I remember towing that (engineless) Lola 212 from Cheshire to Nottingham, behind an 1160cc Mini... Apparently it is now almost fully restored - but won't be raced.

Hi i am writing the history of every chassis # for the lola T210 and T212, this car is still in new zealand , i am searching every race result for this T212 and pictures.

jamie
06-18-2013, 11:09 PM
Hi the Lola was sold to Billey Apple and totaly restored and is used as A peice of art , John Mc Celland oned it all the time it raced in NZ he is still around in Wellington 04 565 0446 give that Ph No A try for race results and pitc Jamie A

David Manton
08-19-2013, 09:46 AM
[QUOTE=jamie;30101]Hi the Lola was sold to Billey Apple and totaly restored and is used as A peice of art.

Does anyone know where John McDonald, ex-Wellington, is these days (raced the Noble Special in SCANZ events in the 1970s (?) and fitted it with a DG-300 Hewland and a McLaren M16 (?) rear wing, apparently brought back from England by George Begg. Thanks, David Manton

Michael Clark
08-19-2013, 06:44 PM
Hi David - he was in Melbourne when I last caught up with him. I'll see what I can find on my computer at work.

jamie
08-19-2013, 08:32 PM
Hi David I have an e/m adds and ph no for John and will be seeing him in a few weeks Jamie A

David Manton
08-20-2013, 01:43 AM
Hi David I have an e/m adds and ph no for John and will be seeing him in a few weeks Jamie A

Thanks to both Michael, Jamie and the Roaring Season for help in putting me in contact today with John. Another good guy from NZ motorsport in the 70's.
-- David

928
08-20-2013, 02:03 AM
where was this "purple onion" located?

ElCoyote
08-20-2013, 02:15 AM
Vivian Street but Jamie knows more than I

Rod Grimwood
08-20-2013, 02:22 AM
Vivian Street but Jamie knows more than I


Seems a few of the boys had a 'cup of tea' there at different times. Very scenic place. That's enough info I thinks

See it has featured in the thread from NZ library as well

jamie
08-20-2013, 04:09 AM
Yes Gang thank God the walls dont tell tails? Some good evinings on the way to the SI [Yes Darling I just want to be early for the boat ]HE HE Jamie A

jamie
09-30-2013, 01:09 AM
Hi Gang All semes quiet on the SCANZ SPORTS CAR FRONT? Bob Homewood you got not much to say these days .Your old Mate Charley B has been through the wars and lost one Eye Jamie A

Lindsay G
01-31-2014, 03:27 AM
Hi everyone. this is my first posting so trying to work out how to put a photo up as well.This is further to Russ Noble's post 79.If I can upload a picture its of the Noble at Levels.23456

Lindsay G
01-31-2014, 03:37 AM
Ok seeing that worked a bit more information.while I was at college I worked for Dave Lester after school and on weekends and he took me to Levels for this meeting.Murray Baker was driving the car this day (although as pointed out Dave did drive it occasionally). Sometime after this I became good friends with Lyn Johnson and was showing him through my photos and when he saw this one said "yeah I remember that day, that's me in the hat."

Lindsay G
01-31-2014, 03:43 AM
these would have been taken the same day and I think no 64 also belonged to Dave Lester.23457

Lindsay G
01-31-2014, 03:45 AM
I'll try that again23458

Lindsay G
01-31-2014, 04:14 AM
I'm also interested in the history of this car.23461

jamie
02-03-2014, 04:47 AM
Hi Lindsay .That car was built by Darryl Raisey in Napier with A 3sge 2 let and A 5 speed Hewland Box Darryl still lives Napier
Jamie A

Lindsay G
02-05-2014, 03:54 AM
Thanks Jamie, I bought the car as a rolling chassis a couple of years ago and believed it started life as a Formula junior Lynx.Peter Benbrook's name is on the bodywork so he owned it at some stage.My plan is to not use the sports car body but build a single seater body along the lines of an M23 Mclaren.

Oldfart
02-05-2014, 04:23 AM
Lindsay, PM sent

John H
02-06-2014, 03:35 AM
Just for interest 1974

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MadIrish
08-01-2014, 05:24 AM
New to the forum! Register yesterday, introduction posted this morning.

My (Eugene Boyle - formerly of Te Aroha) first memories of SCANZ go back to Bob Hyslop at Manfield in the early 1970's racing the JRM. I attempted to join in the fun, albeit briefly in 1983 in a Mallock Mk4 (now owned by Gavin Bateman) and a MK 8 (now in the custody of Brian Service -HRSSC). Realised that I was trying to " ... go to a gunfight with a knife ..." so I retreated to repair the Trevor Larsen damaged Rhubarb 2, but a divorce intervened and put threw everything up in the air!

Still they were great times. :D

GD66
08-01-2014, 08:40 AM
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jamie
08-06-2014, 06:40 AM
Hi GD66 I think that is me on pole .
Jamie A

jamie
08-06-2014, 06:42 AM
Hi GD66 I think that is me on Pole
Jamie A

GD66
08-06-2014, 08:00 AM
You're everywhere, son ! That must have been the weekend of your much-mentioned 50th birthday celebrations...:cool:

Both you and Bob H appear transfixed by that bloke's natty trousers...

jamie
08-06-2014, 10:22 AM
I think you right they are a bit loud ant they
Jamie A

jamie
08-10-2014, 10:31 PM
Hi Eugene good to see you pop up in print I see you live in Ausi now. Are you still racing
Jamie A

Rascal
08-14-2014, 05:15 AM
[QUOTE=Lindsay G;37594]these would have been taken the same day and I think no 64 also belonged to Dave Lester.

Regarding The #33 U2 sports car on page # 9 that Lyndsay G has added a photo of ,
Des Joyce, Built & drove this car The "NEFO" [Netherby Ford] .
Des Owned & Ran Netherby garage in Ashburton, 1960s-70s, this car & others he built & ran
including some fast Anglia saloons were always fast.
This sports car, 1760 + cc & was Always immaculate , Black with orange stripes & detailing. ran in many of the SCANZ Rounds along with sprints & hillclimbs throughout the South island and was an excellent contender.
the car was sold after a few years & was last seen at a few NI hillclimbs & apparently is still about somewhere.
Des is vey much retired these days & Lives back in his hometown of Waimate.

Rascal
08-14-2014, 07:20 AM
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Around 1969-72, Des Joyce built & ran this nice lotus - U2 type with a Ford 1340cc pushrod, It was a chassis that had been started by another guy, but was never completed and Des took on the task, like his later cars it was always immaculate, fast and reliable.
David saunders , who worked for des at the time ,later owned the car and wrecked it in race somewhere up north. the whereabouts of the cars remains are not known.

jamie
08-14-2014, 07:34 PM
Hi gang that is a blast from the past have not herd of Des for along time.
Jamie

Oldfart
08-15-2014, 01:41 AM
Rascal, I think that is more a U2 than a seven.

tallpsmith
09-21-2014, 11:12 PM
Hi all - I located this thread after Googling my Uncle Colin (Smith), who I always knew had a background with racing, but then only recently found out was the 1976 NZ Champion here. (queue: "WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED" discussion with my family...)

After discovering the photos in this thread it inspired me to dig through some family archives to see what we had. I located a handful of photos, and slides. I'll post the scanned photos here, the slides are getting converted to digital (not cheap!) and I'll post those here again when they arrive.

Hope you like these photos.

Colin in Rhubarb 3?: http://people.apache.org/~psmith/ColinSmith/Colin%20in%20Rhubarb%203.jpg
Rhubarb 1 (I think) on a trailer: http://people.apache.org/~psmith/ColinSmith/Rhubarb-on-trailer.jpg
Colin taking a... novel line: http://people.apache.org/~psmith/ColinSmith/Rhubarb-novelline.jpg

One last personal one (and not technically car related), but Colin's influences my love of motor sport to this day, and I think this is where it might have started: Yours truly, a long time ago (I was born in '73): http://people.apache.org/~psmith/ColinSmith/Me%20with%20Colin%20and%20Helmut.png

I have 5 slide digitals I'll post later this week, which are in colour.

warm regards,

Paul Smith

Grant Sprague
09-22-2014, 12:54 AM
Hi all - I located this thread after Googling my Uncle Colin (Smith), who I always knew had a background with racing, but then only recently found out was the 1976 NZ Champion here. (queue: "WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED" discussion with my family...)

After discovering the photos in this thread it inspired me to dig through some family archives to see what we had. I located a handful of photos, and slides. I'll post the scanned photos here, the slides are getting converted to digital (not cheap!) and I'll post those here again when they arrive.

Hope you like these photos.

Colin in Rhubarb 3?: http://people.apache.org/~psmith/ColinSmith/Colin%20in%20Rhubarb%203.jpg
Rhubarb 1 (I think) on a trailer: http://people.apache.org/~psmith/ColinSmith/Rhubarb-on-trailer.jpg
Colin taking a... novel line: http://people.apache.org/~psmith/ColinSmith/Rhubarb-novelline.jpg

One last personal one (and not technically car related), but Colin's influences my love of motor sport to this day, and I think this is where it might have started: Yours truly, a long time ago (I was born in '73): http://people.apache.org/~psmith/ColinSmith/Me%20with%20Colin%20and%20Helmut.png

I have 5 slide digitals I'll post later this week, which are in colour.

warm regards,

Paul Smith Paul .. Your Uncle & his friend Mr Rimmer are very talented men , not only as car driver [drivers] but race car builders when they worked & lived in England. later returning ,.... & built these cars ....I meet Colin when he ran Whitcoulls in Tauranga A Rimmer built the Rimmer carts in Tauranga , Regards Grant

jamie
09-22-2014, 03:22 AM
Ha Ha Colin you have found out. Grant, Colin trying to be a secret Squirrel.
Tallpsmith Paul, yes Your Unc Colin was a very Accomplished driver and Sports car designer. He and Adrian and Rodger Rimmer went to England after building 5 sports cars and 1 Single seater in NZ and worked for Tiger with great success.
Jamie

GD66
09-22-2014, 06:23 AM
Secretive bunch...Paul it's all true, Colin was an accomplished steerer but is also a card-carrying clever-clogs, Adrian among all his other accomplishments is still knocking up Blokart chassis to this day I think, and there are more than 13,000 of them around the world. I was at school in the same years as Robin Rimmer, and indeed Linda Smith so we were sort of able to keep an eye on the Rhubarbs from day 1. There's a lot to be said for working a good power/weight ratio even on a minimalist budget, and I'm sure the success of the early Rhubarbs alerted plenty of club-level racers to that.
There's a Colin Smith doing pics and the odd writeup for the Bay Times these days...could it be...?

GD66
09-22-2014, 06:24 AM
Paul .. Your Uncle & his friend Mr Rimmer are very talented men



And cousins...:cool:

Grant Ellwood
09-22-2014, 10:15 AM
Ha Ha Colin you have found out. Grant, Colin trying to be a secret Squirrel.
Tallpsmith Paul, yes Your Unc Colin was a very Accomplished driver and Sports car designer. He and Adrian and Rodger Rimmer went to England after building 5 sports cars and 1 Single seater in NZ and worked for Tiger with great success.
Jamie

Colin Smith and the Rimmer brothers deserve a book written about their exploits let alone a dedicated thread on this site documenting the cars they built. Can- An Cars up here in Missouri list a 1974 Rhubarb for sale circa US35,000, notes the various owners ending with Gavin Bateman. Wonder how it ended up in USA? It is the Mararn enclosed cockpit car with Nissan engine although it had rotary power when Tino Korzelius owned it. Check it out at canamcarsltd.com

Grant Sprague
09-22-2014, 05:21 PM
Grant E , only just remembered about that rotary powered Rhubarb yep it was very noisy as well lol, you know when I got hooked for a few yrs with SCANZ I hunted a RHUBARB out up north by Auckland as I wanted to revive one knowing they were well build & did all the right things, this is how I meet Colin ......when I saw the car [which was all in tact] but need some TLC etc etc I decided to make a left turn & stay with my merlyn...... hey can you imagine if people like Jamie , you, Roly colin , Adian & my Dad all went to UK together going back years ago ,just making that step what they could have made happen , we had the best race drivers, best engineers, best ..., business skills best PR...... but.. never mind.. hey what could have pulled out of the hat Thank God Bruce etc went over ..... PS Grant E . I heard you might be back for flying visit would be great to catch up bring some piks of yr Anglia ALL GOOD THIS END GRANT no probs Kind Regards Grant S.........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why were they named RHUBARBS ??

jamie
09-22-2014, 08:27 PM
Hi Gang .
To you two Grants I believe the boys were into the Goon show and that is where the name came from along with a lot Hilarity
Jamie.

Grant Sprague
09-22-2014, 08:57 PM
Hi Gang .
To you two Grants I believe the boys were into the Goon show and that is where the name came from along with a lot Hilarity
Jamie. RRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr Jamie understand must have been lots of humour about in those days , much of that lacks to day , doing SCANZ with you was fun so it al makes sence , S,I,D Jamie the Goons Rhubarb you are lucky to combine fun with motor racing ....no lawyers & bull s...t just clean fun & a yarn & beers .....

jamie
09-22-2014, 09:48 PM
Yes Grant it was a good time ruined by Bureaucracy all to P C.

tallpsmith
10-01-2014, 10:12 PM
Hi again, finally managed to pickup the slide scans and have uploaded them to this Flickr album here (includes the previous set):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tallpsmith/sets/72157647854438408

44 gallon drums for safety fencing. Classy. No idea how you guys did it back then.

regards,

Paul

Grant Sprague
10-02-2014, 01:31 AM
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Rhubarb 2 and 3 Bay Park
This from my third Season with Rhubarb 3 when I raced it with the 416b Hart based engine ,Tino had a Mazda rotary engine in Rhubarb 2 Hi Bob , tell me more about the hart based engine ,,,,, this was a few yrs before I had a crack at SCANZ... & what lap times did this do ..... Thanks Granteeeee

west17
07-10-2015, 02:16 PM
Hi Paul, just a bit of nostalgia for you, I have the Rhubarb 1 car.It still exists.

MadIrish
07-24-2015, 01:58 AM
Hi Eugene good to see you pop up in print I see you live in Ausi now. Are you still racing
Jamie A

Jamie, yes it's ben a long time. I moved to Oz after the divorce and the first of two battles with the deadly "rust". Health problems and starting-over have kept me out of racing, but I try to follow what I can back in NZ mostly as the Aussie sports-racing scene is limited to state level championships in NSW and Queensland with only club sprint style events in Victoria. Surfing trademe.co.nz over the last couple of months was interesting, Ralph Young's BDV up for sale twice (before and after an engine haemorrhage), Lester Reader's(RIP) LJR, a new-build rear-engined sports-racing cars and a SCANZ car in bits. In addition t bringing back heaps of memories of my brief time in SCANZ with a couple of U2's and a failed attempt with Rhubarb 2, it got me thinking about buying a project to restore now that I have the time and more importantly the ultimate requirement .... the money to do it properly for once.

Euge

Sam
10-31-2016, 06:39 AM
Hi

If any one interested ,Planning on getting a run out of Rhubarb 3 this weekend 5/11/16 for the teretonga 60th this weekend if any 1 has any info on current lancia motor in it would be greatly appreciated.

BMCBOY
11-03-2016, 05:35 PM
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Roger Dowding
01-11-2017, 07:17 AM
As mentioned on other threads, Bucklers, and Ralph Watson, Bruce Dyer sent me some photos from a meeting at Taupo in 1998;
this seems the right place for the Mallock U2's and also the Fiat Targa.

40108

40109

40110

Fiat Targa
40111


Looks like the " Northland [ Jackson-Logan ] Special " and a Riley Special in the background as well as a single seater

Have a couple of shots of a Kieft too .. unsure where to place them as is a single seater !!

lorenzo alia
03-06-2021, 11:45 PM
Hello friends, I am an Italian pilot, very fond of sport prototypes of the 70s, 80s, in the world; I ask you kindly if you can send me to the email address: lorenzo.alia@libero.it some photos of sport prototypes from New Zealand, 70s, 80s and how they are called; many thanks, many greetings Lorenzo Alia

lorenzo alia
03-07-2021, 12:14 AM
Hi friend Steve, I am an Italian pilot, great lover of sports prototypes 70s, 80s, in the world; I ask you, please, the name of the N9-18-Mills-17-4-2-1-PARTRIDGE CRANES-59-7-24; I am interested only those built in New Zealand; my email address is: lorenzo.alia@libero.it, I am also on facebook: LORENZO ALIA; many thanks, many regards

lorenzo alia
03-07-2021, 12:22 AM
Hi friend Steve, I am an Italian driver, great lover of sports prototypes of the 70's and 80's in the world; I ask you, please, also the name of the New Zealand sports prototypes of the 80's N7-4-2-88-8; I am only interested in those built in New Zealand; my email address is: lorenzo.alia@libero.it, I am also on facebook: LORENZO ALIA; many thanks, many regards