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TonyG
01-07-2012, 08:55 AM
What was the origins of the Steve Elliott Escort V8? A pink thing from memory. Never seemed to do more than 2 laps at Puke before overheating. I noticed in the Video of the race at Puke in 89.

Rod Grimwood
01-07-2012, 09:48 PM
What was the origins of the Steve Elliott Escort V8? A pink thing from memory. Never seemed to do more than 2 laps at Puke before overheating. I noticed in the Video of the race at Puke in 89.

It was V6 Buick powered, It did not overheat at Manfield as on the first lap he had a big lose onto the dirt on outside of the sweeper onto front and kept boot in it and careered across the track and T-Boned John Learmonth in the Monaro. It always suffered from overheating for some reason (lack of air to radiator would have been were i would have started) I think after nudge Steve gave it away.

TonyG
01-07-2012, 11:09 PM
Ahh ! Thanks Rod. So it was a Buick V6 engine. I could only vaguely remember it. I think thats where I would have started as well. lol

TonyG
01-07-2012, 11:45 PM
I must catch up with Ian Knight and find out what he did with his Corvette. He is living on one of his Catamarans here in Surfers in the Marina.

Rod Grimwood
01-08-2012, 12:48 AM
When you do catch up with him Tony, can you ask him if he knows what John Scott did with the Escort,I have drawn a blank on it so far.

driftwood
01-08-2012, 12:28 PM
BMW 320 cars built by Jim Busby
1 car is now back in USA being restored not sure which car

TonyG
01-08-2012, 08:07 PM
When you do catch up with him Tony, can you ask him if he knows what John Scott did with the Escort,I have drawn a blank on it so far.
Will do Rod.

kiwi285
01-09-2012, 03:17 AM
Keep talking to Scotty - we need to encourage him to come back and bring the Mazda with him.

Steve Holmes
01-09-2012, 03:45 AM
When you do catch up with him Tony, can you ask him if he knows what John Scott did with the Escort,I have drawn a blank on it so far.

I second that, see Lost Race Cars thread. I'd like to know where it went.

Steve Holmes
01-09-2012, 03:46 AM
BMW 320 cars built by Jim Busby
1 car is now back in USA being restored not sure which car

Thanks for that info. If built by Busby, was it built for IMSA?

jim short
01-09-2012, 09:01 PM
Yes rod tony was always a sedate and safe with a nice litle wave each time i passed him

Rod Grimwood
01-09-2012, 11:57 PM
Was it the same wave he gave me when I passed him in the Mobil race, fingers seemed to be stuck together.

driftwood
01-10-2012, 03:04 PM
Jim Busbys cars where for IMSA somewhere on ten tenths is the bmw 320 Gp 5 thread where either a kiwi or ozzie poster has given info on the bmw in usa and oz and back to usa
there was a Busby car for sale in usa 4 -5 years ago i just missed then i acquired the car i now have
i have spoken via email with the current owner

there was a bmw 320 Gp 5 in NZ for 10-15 years but its now in asia

Steve Holmes
01-11-2012, 07:52 PM
Thanks for that info driftwood.

driftwood
01-11-2012, 11:10 PM
i have just read most of the ten tenths 320 thread in it there are links to oz website and info on all the Oz JPS cars and 1 of the Busby cars is full space frame and 1 is steel shell car both built by bmw factory
cars raced in USA in IMSA 78 79 ish then sold to Oz and later went back to USA and germany via the UK
there was also a bmw in Oz built in conjunction with Frank Gardner car was eventually broken up parts sold off and the shell was eventually scrapped
thread is 22 pages worth and i read it backwards made more sense to me than reading forward
I often read yr threads here backwards last to first page more educational at times

here is the link get a box of crisps and couple of (warm) beers and read on
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75912

driftwood
01-11-2012, 11:46 PM
look here NZ bmw now sold to singapore

http://www.bmw.net.nz/html/group_5_320.html

Steve Holmes
01-11-2012, 11:49 PM
i have just read most of the ten tenths 320 thread in it there are links to oz website and info on all the Oz JPS cars and 1 of the Busby cars is full space frame and 1 is steel shell car both built by bmw factory
cars raced in USA in IMSA 78 79 ish then sold to Oz and later went back to USA and germany via the UK
there was also a bmw in Oz built in conjunction with Frank Gardner car was eventually broken up parts sold off and the shell was eventually scrapped
thread is 22 pages worth and i read it backwards made more sense to me than reading forward
I often read yr threads here backwards last to first page more educational at times

here is the link get a box of crisps and couple of (warm) beers and read on
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75912

Thanks for that, I'll go through and read it.

Steve Holmes
01-11-2012, 11:51 PM
look here NZ bmw now sold to singapore

http://www.bmw.net.nz/html/group_5_320.html

900hp!!! Shit, that'd make your eyes water. I wonder if the new Singapore owner will race it.

driftwood
01-12-2012, 10:42 AM
I think yer man was using his poetic licence to the max and poss onto valve bounce
you know what Kiwis are like for bragging !!:roll eyes:
he was also excitable on his price at the time 100k ish for a car that needed a full rebuild to use- i offered him half that dunno what he took for it this was around 4-5 years ago now
the man who has bought the car has a few Gp a cars i doubt he will race it more of a collector

Steve Holmes
01-13-2012, 03:44 AM
Do you know much of its history? Looks like its still wearing the original paint. Its painted in works colours, but its bodywork looks different to the works cars of 1978, which seems to be the only year these cars had turbos and this paint scheme:http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jong/Pages/1978%20DRM.html

Powder
01-13-2012, 07:37 AM
Do you know much of its history? Looks like its still wearing the original paint. Its painted in works colours, but its bodywork looks different to the works cars of 1978, which seems to be the only year these cars had turbos and this paint scheme:http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jong/Pages/1978%20DRM.html

The car had Canadian stickers on it when I saw it at Whenuapai 15 years ago so I wondered if it was one of the McLaren IMSA cars. Perhaps a sister car to this one, http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/7311/index.html , although the bodywork is a bit different to this also.

Malcolm

Edit: I've had read through some of the ten-tenths thread mentioned above and the history of the car is outlined in Post #128 here: http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75912&page=9

driftwood
01-16-2012, 01:10 PM
Car is i think german HAT Wurth race car
i have info on it on my PC
there where 2 cars in canada from euroland
1 was Grosser beer car that went down to gutamala its now back in der Fatherland

Steve Holmes
01-17-2012, 05:34 AM
From which season, 1978?

timbo61
01-17-2012, 11:16 AM
As posted by Bry3500 on the Sandown 1000 thread. What happened to the 3 Aussie BMWs that raced in sports sedans in the 80s?

1) Craven Mild 318i. LHD Floorpanned Turbo Built by Jim Busby to IMSA specs in the USA. Brought out here in early 1980 and made its debut in Rd3 of the Australian Sports Sedan Championship at Amaroo Park with Gricey at the wheel. Raced through 1980. Did not re appear until the 1982 Championship Rd6 with Jim Richards at the wheel under JPS colours. Car now had the boxed guards. This car then ended up being purchased by Molloy and raced by Chris Hones before being passed on to Robin Doherty and then I think on to Rob Burns. It was then sold onto the US. Car is now in Germany or England.

2) JPS 318i. RHD Space frame. Made its debut at Rd1 of the Better Brakes 3.5 series at Amaroo Park in 1981 with Gricey at the wheel under JPS colours. Raced throughout 1981 in the Championship before being sold to Bruce Lynton for 1982 season and then John Brigss for the 1983 season. It was then raced by Grant Munday and then to Richard Gartner. Richard put a rotary in it and raced it in the NSW state series with a black colour scheme. The car ended up in Thailand and apparently is now in New Zealand.

3) JPS IMSA 320i. LHD Floorpanned Jim Busby built car. Was used as show/spares car. Did not race until the WSC in 1984 with Richards at the wheel. Was a naturally aspirated 2L F2 engine. This was sold onto Molloy whith Chris Hones at the wheel before being raced by Ludwig Finnaur with a sky blue paint scheme as he got his CAMS license. It was then further raced by Chris Hones before being passed on to a Rob Shiel? The car in now in Germany or England?

Three BMW's that raced in the day.
I'm not sure about the Gurney car, did John briggs drive it at some stage?

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Steve Holmes
01-17-2012, 10:30 PM
Timbo, those are great! The Gurney car, I'm almost certain, would be the Grice/Craven Mild machine, that later went to Bruce Lynton, then John Briggs? Lynton raced it in 1982, then Briggs had it the following year.

driftwood
01-19-2012, 12:30 AM
I went to see another ex works BMW today thats been stripped down to take some photos and compare to my car and the other works car and every car is different !!
I have many photos of other cars there are variants of front wheel arches splitters rear wings
allegedly 44 cars where built between 77 and 79

Steve Holmes
01-24-2012, 09:09 PM
Wow, there were surprisingly large number built! Can you give more detail on you car?

driftwood
02-03-2012, 12:23 AM
been away skiing In Italy hence the silence
My car was allegedly built form the wreck of eddie cheers works car that crashed at solder in 77 Gustav Fischer bought the wreck took it home and built up a car for him to race in 78
in 79 Gerd Reiss bought the car and did some mountain races with it and 1 DRM race
the car was unused in 80 81 as Reiss teamed up with Albrecht Krebs to race his turbo car
In 82 the car was sold to Swede Kenneth Leim to race in Silverstone Spa Monza WCM 1000 km races with Peter Simonsen
The car was unused in 83 and sold to Peters son who did some local saloon races in 84 85 in sweden and Finland
The car was sold a couple of times to Finnish drivers who raced this car
My car had a number of engines BMW M12 Schnitzer turbo and Volvo B20 engine and there where 3 or 4 BMW 320 cars that race din sweden finland in the early 80's 3 have come back to the UK in the late 1990's but I had just had contact with Finnish guy who still has 1 car he is planning on rebuilding

TonyG
02-04-2012, 12:13 AM
My In Laws are family friends of Ian Knight and they have tracked him down at the Southport Yacht Club here on the Gold Coast where they had tea and bickies with him on Thursday. The Mother In Law passed on to me that he has just sold his Corvette and that the new owner will be running it at Willowbank in the Sprint series starting tomorrow (Sunday). She told Ian about this forum and he is supposedly keen to check it out so heres hoping he can supply more info on the missing escort. He was apparently going to make some calls before joining in here in order to track it down.
Regards
Tony

Ian Knight
02-04-2012, 04:21 AM
Hi Rod
I can't shine to much light on what happened to the old escort after I sold it. I can't even remember who I sold it to, but I believe the V8 came out and was replaced with a 2lt Ford. I'll try and dig out some old pictures. Unfortunately we have lost a lot of old photos whilst in storage so fingers crossed.
Just joined up today and have managed to spend several hours browsing. Very reminiscent, great site and will continue to go on from time to time to see what else has been uncovered.
Regards
Ian

Shano
02-04-2012, 06:05 AM
Ian, a query - are you Eric Knight's brother?

Rod Grimwood
02-04-2012, 08:48 PM
Great to hear from you Ian, been a couple of years (about 20 plus). The Corvette you just sold was it the old girl you ran here. That was another bit of good gear. Wasn't the Escort red when you ran it. Be good to see some photos of it and also the Corvette. Hope all is good with you and if we come over some time will give you a catch up. Cheers
PS still got my little Escort.

Ian Knight
02-04-2012, 10:13 PM
Ian, a query - are you Eric Knight's brother?

Hi Shane
Yes, Eric is my little brother

Ian Knight
02-04-2012, 10:18 PM
Hi Rod
Yes the Escort was red when I ran it with a 302 chev. I bought her off a friend Pete Hustler minus engine and transmission. Yes, sadly the corvette I just sold was my old girl that I use to race, but she has gone to a great home here in Queensland, in fact I am going out to Queensland Raceway today to see her run for the first time with the new owner. The new owner Matt is a great guy, and he actually saw her run at Pukekohe when he was a boy. His dad has flown over from Auckland for the weekend just for this. I will be telling him about this site today, I'm sure he will find this as interesting as I do.
Rod, it would be great to catch up if you ever come over - we have a spare cabin on the boat!!
Best regards
PS still working on some pics to post

Rod Grimwood
02-05-2012, 08:21 PM
Ian, it is amazing how you forget about things and people from way back when you loose contact, but thanks to this forum contact is back and so are some of the great memories. Re the Corvette, Bet it was hard to part with the old girl, you had her for a long time and it was a pretty car and quick as well. Remembering the escort and Peter as well. The Escort had some history and we were trying to put bits together a while back. I think Peter got it from John Scott.
Hunt out those photos.
Coming over to Philip Island in March for meeting, helping Brett Willis with the F5000 Lola, thats good fun.
Home email grimmie64@xtra.co.nz

Jizim
02-08-2012, 11:48 AM
Yes rod tony was always a sedate and safe with a nice litle wave each time i passed him

Hey you two.....cut that out! This site is about the history of great racers and their cars....not about a couple of old timers who came second more times than most to a true champion....you two try hards were a real asset to the fields in those days.....we needed mid fielders....and yes guys....I enjoyed my motor racing but most of all I enjoyed the comradeship and fun we had that doesnt seem to be around as much these days. But boys please please dont dispair...someone has to come second...(here come those fingers Rod!) As always with respect. Kindest ever regards, Tony Rutherford.

Jizim
02-08-2012, 11:58 AM
900hp!!! Shit, that'd make your eyes water. I wonder if the new Singapore owner will race it.

make your eyes water all right Steve...wouldnt take off under 7,000rpm and ran up to 15,000 RPM. Belonged to a good friend of mine whom is currently enjoying some success in the open class BMW class. Took him about two years to actually take ownership under the radar and when the news hit town BMW were quite frankly bewildered that the car had slipped away from them........pity it has left the country. Regards, Tony Rutherford.

Rod Grimwood
02-09-2012, 01:05 AM
But Tony, I can only remember seeing one finger, you were such a friendly bloke. Right about the fun days ah. Did you have the BIG mirror so you could keep an eye on us or to make sure the hair was inplace.

fullnoise68
09-24-2012, 07:58 AM
Tony, it was a Chev V6 engine in my Escort and the only time it overheated was at Puke with the bigger second engine that Dave Green built for me and for some reason ran a lot hotter than the smaller engine. Once sorted it was quite quick, 1.08 around Puke and 62.7 around Baypark. Had the rules not changed to suit a select few I would have continued with it, having repaired it after the Manifield crash. I sold the car less motor/box and went on to racing other classes of cars.

Rod Grimwood
09-24-2012, 08:41 AM
Hello there Steve, gees i always thought it was a Buick. It went alright. I remember at Puke when you had the big one done, it got warm alright. Must catch up some time.

fullnoise68
09-24-2012, 08:12 PM
Hi Rod, have you got any photos of my Escort? I had some somewhere, including some of Mikes` Chevette, but I`m buggered if I can find them. Are you going to the Denny Hulme Festival? I`ve got a new toy coming from the US that I`ll be doing some skids in there!

TonyG
09-26-2012, 07:20 AM
Hi Steve. Thanks for that. I thought you had once told me it was a Chev engine when when we briefly spoke at Puke when my missus introduced us. Greg Marchant says to say Hi too.

Rod Grimwood
09-26-2012, 10:31 PM
Hi Rod, have you got any photos of my Escort? I had some somewhere, including some of Mikes` Chevette, but I`m buggered if I can find them. Are you going to the Denny Hulme Festival? I`ve got a new toy coming from the US that I`ll be doing some skids in there!

Will have a look for you Steve. Love to see some photos of Mikes Chevette as some how most of his stuff has gone.
Will be at Festival so will catch up. Might see before because I am going to Ruapuna for Wigram Revival with Brett Willis so may drop in on way home if any time.

Nick Slade
09-29-2012, 04:16 AM
The # 32 Mustang was Rob Kennard. The car was the former Bob Slade car which Rob raced prior to building the Cortina Ford V8.
http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad201/nickardele/ADAC4040-27EE-490A-8658-B924FE050E01-219-000000B64B9F49A7.jpg
I Came across this thread the other night and thought that the pictures of the Mustang was still when my Dad owned and raced it, but I did not get a chance to have him take a look at the pictures until tonight and he confirmed it was him driving the car. I was fairly young at the time he was racing it but I saw the car number, and remembered he ran #33 and then 32 at one time. I remember also helping him bleed the brakes one time in this car when we lived on Lake terrace
road and I had to hang off the edge of the seat and hang on to the bottom of the steering wheel to reach the pedal :)

Steve Holmes
10-02-2012, 07:46 PM
Thanks Nick. I guess this must have been around 1980/81/82 or thereabouts? That looks like George Sheweiry in the Sidchrome with its Zakspeed paint scheme in the background.

seaqnmac27
10-02-2012, 10:02 PM
thats the NZGP meet Dec/Jan 81/2

Steve Holmes
11-26-2012, 11:49 PM
My thanks to Warwick Clayton for sending me this fantastic photo. This is the Greg Lancaster Victor Chevy. This is the first colour photo I've ever seen of this car when it had its silver paint scheme.

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seaqnmac27
11-27-2012, 12:01 AM
The pic you posted of the Lancaster Victor in Yellow was before it was painted.
I have 2 shots of this car severely damaged, one from an accident that happened I think at Bay Park, also the one that finally destroyed it, when my scanner decides its going to work I will post them.

Steve Holmes
11-27-2012, 12:17 AM
Thanks Sean, and yes, the yellow shot is very early. Also, the car was painted black at one stage.

BMCBOY
11-27-2012, 02:21 AM
Thanks Sean, and yes, the yellow shot is very early. Also, the car was painted black at one stage.

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Steve Holmes
11-27-2012, 03:38 AM
Brilliant! Whose is the Escort in the first photo?

Steve Holmes
11-27-2012, 03:39 AM
Out of interest, does anyone have photos of the Rod McElrea MkIV Cortina?

seaqnmac27
11-27-2012, 04:20 AM
The Escort is Bryce Platt

The McElrea Cortina

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Steve Holmes
11-27-2012, 04:28 AM
Nice one! Thanks Sean.

Oldfart
11-27-2012, 05:42 AM
God those stubbies were horrible, how did we do such things?

seaqnmac27
11-27-2012, 05:49 AM
Out of pure curiosity, did the 3 Victors ever race at the same meet? Dickie/Jenkins, Nazer and Lancaster?

Steve Holmes
11-27-2012, 06:19 AM
Good question Sean. I know the Nazer and Lancaster cars ran together, and I know the Nazer and Dickie cars ran together, but not sure if all three appeared at the same event.

Steve Holmes
11-27-2012, 06:20 AM
God those stubbies were horrible, how did we do such things?

My dad still wears them! I don't know how he even manages to find them, I assumed they stopped making them years ago.

Oldfart
11-27-2012, 07:02 AM
I just wish they had!

Kiwiboss
11-27-2012, 07:11 AM
My dad still wears them! I don't know how he even manages to find them, I assumed they stopped making them years ago.

No No still available from the Warehouse, im stocked up for this summer and DH :)

Dale M

Oldfart
11-27-2012, 07:24 AM
Dale, the mind boggles, all very well to be retro with the cars but...
Nek thing you will be dressing for Roycroft!

Steve Holmes
11-29-2012, 03:06 AM
Dale, the mind boggles, all very well to be retro with the cars but...
Nek thing you will be dressing for Roycroft!

The 70s were obviously pretty good to our Dale! He's been there ever since.

Steve Holmes
11-29-2012, 03:07 AM
The Escort is Bryce Platt

The McElrea Cortina

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Does anyone know what happened to this car? I thought I heard a few years ago Rod McElrea had bought it back?

Steve Holmes
11-29-2012, 09:44 PM
One of the wildest of a very wild bunch, the Ian Algie Alfetta. Note how modest the car looks in the first photo, before the huge rear wing and front spoiler appeared. But under the skin it was anything but modest, with a 5 litre V8 sat square inside the cockpit, and Ian sat where the back seat would once have been. What an exciting car, and a true example of Kiwi Ingenuity. It drew a crowd wherever it went, and still does. A real work of art and a credit to Ian's fabrication skills.

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Both photos by Warwick Clayton.

seaqnmac27
11-29-2012, 10:20 PM
So did it actually compete in that original guise?

Steve Holmes
11-29-2012, 10:28 PM
Yep, sure did.

seaqnmac27
11-29-2012, 11:52 PM
SO that is Manfield at some stage in 1980 or 81?

Steve Holmes
11-30-2012, 03:38 AM
Yep, thats right Sean, although not sure of the exact year.

seaqnmac27
11-30-2012, 07:10 AM
November 1980.

Steve Holmes
11-30-2012, 06:30 PM
How'd you know that Sean?

Steve Holmes
11-30-2012, 07:16 PM
The Marina! Looks like it had its wheelbase extended? Was the rear axle moved back?

Photo by Warwick Clayton.

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Grant Ellwood
11-30-2012, 07:57 PM
The Marina! Looks like it had its wheelbase extended? Was the rear axle moved back?

Photo by Warwick Clayton.

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Had a Jag rear end in a fabricated sub-frame so could easily have been located further back.

seaqnmac27
11-30-2012, 09:05 PM
I had a flick through my Motoractions, its the first time its mentioned at Manfield, so my date may be wrong, but there is a meet mentioned in the Nov 17 1980 issue.

Rod Grimwood
11-30-2012, 09:08 PM
Notice the sign on the top of screen of Marina, this was the time when the Americas Cup challenge was on in Aust.
Later on when Brett Willis went to States to race in Trans Am with Ralph Mossman along to keep an eye on him, they had 'Plastic Fantastic" on the screen just to let the yanks where they were from.

jim short
11-30-2012, 11:35 PM
Notice the sign on the top of screen of Marina, this was the time when the Americas Cup challenge was on in Aust.
Later on when Brett Willis went to States to race in Trans Am with Ralph Mossman along to keep an eye on him, they had 'Plastic Fantastic" on the screen just to let the yanks where they were from.

"Black Park" on the screen when Graham Park raced it What I mean to say on the windscreen at the top is a name reading Black Park Grahams nickname

TonyG
12-01-2012, 12:26 AM
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Rod Grimwood
12-01-2012, 12:37 AM
Correct Jim got it mixed up with later on signs that boys raced

Evercool was Johns company.

Parksy was a neat fella and always chirpy. Handy he was my size (fraction Thinner) when at Bay Park one day i went to ute and bag gone, no driving suit, helmet or boots, so he shot off and got me his spares. Remember it as they were black and i had him on about everything being black in middle of summer, and could he get a Red one so iI could go faster.

GD66
12-01-2012, 03:34 AM
Graham's still having the odd gallop in a Porsche 944 S2 and still goes hard.

jim short
12-01-2012, 03:44 AM
Graham's still having the odd gallop in a Porsche 944 S2 and still goes hard.

He went hard at Bay Park heading of two turbo Mazdas {sorry chaps this is only for those involved,} Kiwis

Rod Grimwood
12-01-2012, 07:40 AM
He went hard at Bay Park heading of two turbo Mazdas {sorry chaps this is only for those involved,} Kiwis

He also beat that modied black with red and yellow stripes VW with that gentleman from Greenlane driving I believe.

jim short
12-01-2012, 09:08 AM
He also beat that modied black with red and yellow stripes VW with that gentleman from Greenlane driving I believe.

Yes very true,I think we were all fined $5for not slowing for yellow flag when that Mazda?? caught fire ,He zaped me into the righthander under the yellow{I slowed as it was my first time out}its hard to explain how good those days were when we look back,now all this pc ,and dogooders ,just thank God they werent here in the 80s

bigbanger
12-01-2012, 11:23 AM
The Marina! Looks like it had its wheelbase extended? Was the rear axle moved back?

Photo by Warwick Clayton.

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Steve Holmes
12-02-2012, 11:32 PM
Thanks bigbanger, thats really great info. Your explanation of this car having the engine behind the driver explains why the driver appears to sit so close to the windscreen.

Steve Holmes
12-02-2012, 11:35 PM
My request for photos of the Jac Mac/Rod McElrea Cortina OSCA racer resulted in some great photos from both Warwick Clayton and Terry Marshall. Here are Warwicks photos:

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Steve Holmes
12-02-2012, 11:36 PM
More from Warwick:

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Steve Holmes
12-02-2012, 11:41 PM
And these from Terry:

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Graeme Park
12-25-2012, 11:17 PM
Hi Jim and Rod, some photos of the Marina

Easter 1984 Baypark - Jim Short and myself

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Christmas 1984 - Baypark - Warwick Grey and myself

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Pukekohe Grand Prix 1986 Ian Algie and myself (Jim your car come off in the grass just behind us)

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Baypark with Harold Wooten and myself

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Christmas Baypark Start

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The Marina wheel base was extended by 4 inches, the motor, gear box and diff were all as one unit and had Jag independent rear suspension with splined half shafts with a top wish bone added. Front suspension had Jag XJ6 suspension which I made up top rocker arms with inboard mounted adjustable shocks. The Motor was a P76 turbo charged.

Does anyone know where this car is now?

Cheers,

Graeme (Black Park)

Paul Kirk
12-26-2012, 01:32 AM
I did, I built the car literally from the ground up starting in 77 or whenever the MKIV Cortina was introduced. I borrowed the W/Shop manuals off Dennis Latty @ Latty Ford , Gore. & compared the floorpan info for MK3/MKIV, they are/were both the same, then obtained a MK3 shell & removed all that was not compatible with MKIV from it, around the same time a local Vet rolled his new MKIV which was written off due to excessive panel damage & I got most of what was good of the shell & bought new roof, rear guards etc to make up balance of shell, the guards/flares you mention were made by bringing out the original arch & filling in the gaps etc then pulling a set of molds off that... molds were made in such manner that the LF could be adapted & used on RR & vice versa so I only needed two molds. Doors were made from alloy & I must confess to a minor stuff up in that dept, I did not look closely enough @ the MKIV & ended up with a bit of a 'dip' @ the B pillar rather than the straight thru of the MKIV. made mold for hood/bonnet with scoop & rolled up alloy boot lid. Same Boss 302/trans/diff from my earlier MK2 Cortina was used in this car as well.

Ahar, so it must have been YOU, Jac, that fitted that big brake limiting valve (that worked on all 4wheels) and the oversized master cylinder that required both feet on the pedal!
Poor old Rod couldn't figure out why other cars could outbrake him.
The plot is thickening!
PK.

jim short
12-26-2012, 05:17 AM
Hi Graeme I think the car on grass is Shack Manon green Escort, Bruce and I were on the gully side,1984???

Munty
12-26-2012, 07:27 AM
The ex McElrea Cortina is being restored as we speak and should be out next summer

Jac Mac
12-26-2012, 07:01 PM
Ahar, so it must have been YOU, Jac, that fitted that big brake limiting valve (that worked on all 4wheels) and the oversized master cylinder that required both feet on the pedal!
Poor old Rod couldn't figure out why other cars could outbrake him.
The plot is thickening!
PK.

And it might continue to thicken!!! I built the car with two seperate master cyls & balance bar along with the Mustang pressure valve in the rear brake line, BUT in the pics that Anthony Prendergast has sent me of the car as purchased from Rod last year there is a photo of the empty engine bay with an extra bracket with three bolt holes that has been added in front of the original Master Cyl positions presumably for the Large master cylinder you mention. The steering column also was modified by removing the upper u-joint & replacing with an angle gear box that used a couple of mini diff side gears, I presume these mods were done to clear the space for the Chev Swap at the time. From what you describe it would appear that when the large single master cyl was fitted the brake lines got re-plumbed in the manner you describe where it worked on all four wheels, that would have made life exciting for Rodney!!!

Graeme Park
12-26-2012, 08:55 PM
Hi Graeme I think the car on grass is Shack Manon green Escort, Bruce and I were on the gully side,1984???

Hi Jim Great to here from you. You are right about the year and and your car in the gully such a long time ago one tends to forget. Jim i would like to catch up with you soom time i will be raceing down at taupo on the 26 & 27th of jan & then hampton downs in early feb not shore of the dates yet. My Porsche is a 944 s2 what a fantastic car to race the motor is still standerd but have fully worked the suspension & brakes over. The car handels great and putting up some good times. Have you still got your Porsche and compete?. I wish you a merry xmas & a happy new year & hope to catch up with you soon. Cheers Graeme Park.

Grant Ellwood
12-26-2012, 09:44 PM
Graeme, compliments of the season to you. Years ago when I lived in Tauranga, I visited your place and had a good look at the Marina, think we discussed some alterations for the rear suspension. Sorry, can't remember the details, my memory is pretty dodgy these days!
Good luck with your Porsche racing, glad to see you are keeping your hand in.

Rod Grimwood
12-26-2012, 10:43 PM
Hi Jim Great to here from you. You are right about the year and and your car in the gully such a long time ago one tends to forget. Jim i would like to catch up with you soom time i will be raceing down at taupo on the 26 & 27th of jan & then hampton downs in early feb not shore of the dates yet. My Porsche is a 944 s2 what a fantastic car to race the motor is still standerd but have fully worked the suspension & brakes over. The car handels great and putting up some good times. Have you still got your Porsche and compete?. I wish you a merry xmas & a happy new year & hope to catch up with you soon. Cheers Graeme Park.

Green Escort was Gary Lathrope
Must catch up Graeme, will be at HD Hulme Festival with Brett Willis if you are around, good to hear you are keeping your hand in with the Porsche.

Rod Grimwood
12-26-2012, 10:59 PM
Correct Jim got it mixed up with later on signs that boys raced

Evercool was Johns company.

Parksy was a neat fella and always chirpy. Handy he was my size (fraction Thinner) when at Bay Park one day i went to ute and bag gone, no driving suit, helmet or boots, so he shot off and got me his spares. Remember it as they were black and i had him on about everything being black in middle of summer, and could he get a Red one so iI could go faster.

Red Helmet, white/blue suit who some one else has.

Black helmet, suit borrowed.

jim short
12-26-2012, 11:35 PM
Red Helmet, white/blue suit who some one else has.

Black helmet, suit borrowed.

Rod are you shure not Manon green Escort as he hit the bank ,will check vidio as on there thanks for call must be nearly here by now

Rod Grimwood
12-27-2012, 12:46 AM
Rod are you shure not Manon green Escort as he hit the bank ,will check vidio as on there thanks for call must be nearly here by now

Manon was alight fawn colour and MK11 Lathrope was a dark forest green and Mk1
call is on the way, must be caught up in hi-tech immigration and interogation unit at Tokoroa
I been calling but number i have goes to answer phone with some strange noise.

Barrie
12-27-2012, 02:11 AM
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Great to see the Addis Charger. Brings back memories of an encounter on the Auckland motorway. I was heading home to Thames when the Charger went past me at a great rate of knots. A wonderful sight and glorious sound.

Graeme Park
12-27-2012, 07:57 AM
Graeme, compliments of the season to you. Years ago when I lived in Tauranga, I visited your place and had a good look at the Marina, think we discussed some alterations for the rear suspension. Sorry, can't remember the details, my memory is pretty dodgy these days!
Good luck with your Porsche racing, glad to see you are keeping your hand in.

Hi Grant , good to here from you.Yes, I remember you comimg up to my workshop in Tauranga you helped me with re designing the rear suspension. If you remember right, drive shafts acted as the top link which in turn made erratical camber change. So I had the drive shafts splined and made upper top links. Many hours later using a spirit level, I managed to achieve, with your help a proper set up. Wishing you all the best for the season. Looking forward to catching up with you sometime. Cheers, Graeme.

Graeme Park
12-27-2012, 08:34 AM
Green Escort was Gary Lathrope
Must catch up Graeme, will be at HD Hulme Festival with Brett Willis if you are around, good to hear you are keeping your hand in with the Porsche.

Hi Rod. Great to hear from you . Yes, I will be at HD Hulme festival with the porsche. Be good to catch up with you and Brett. Do you still have the Escourt? How about any of the other Sport Sedan drivers like Ralph Mosman, Tony Rutherford, John Learmouth, the Algie boys, the list goes on ..do you ever see any of them ?? See you soon Cheers Graeme.

ERC
12-27-2012, 08:42 AM
Isn't Tony Rutherford a regular safety car driver or have I got it wrong - again?

Rod Grimwood
12-27-2012, 08:51 AM
Isn't Tony Rutherford a regular safety car driver or have I got it wrong - again?

Correct, this is one of of the few times he has lead a field, except handicap races at end of day. He has got very good at it though, cheerful chap waving to all and sundry.
Notice the finger signal is not as prevalent as old days.

Rod Grimwood
12-27-2012, 09:02 AM
Look forward to catching up Graeme.
The Algie boys pop up some times with Gordon Burr and the Alfetta, Ralph is the main go to man with Brett, I think John Learmonth may be rebuilding a car, John Windleburn can be seen pushing young Shanes 5000 around. See a few of them around. Yes the little car is still tucked away in my messy room out back.
I have some nice photos of Ralphs New (old) toy, it is neat. will ask if i can show them.

John McKechnie
12-27-2012, 06:25 PM
Was with Barry Algie the other night at his place.Says he will never let the Monaro go, and wants a good set of tyres as the existing have got too old. Brother Ian is in the USA , and has been there for years involved with racing.

jim short
12-27-2012, 08:45 PM
Correct, this is one of of the few times he has lead a field, except handicap races at end of day. He has got very good at it though, cheerful chap waving to all and sundry.
Notice the finger signal is not as prevalent as old days.

Thank you Rod,, good to start the day with a smile {laugh}

ERC
12-27-2012, 09:28 PM
When I first came to NZ, I remember well going to the Pukekohe Club circuit and noting the crowd response to Tony's car. Obviously a crowd favourite at the time.

As to him leading the field I had to smile, as at the first classic meet at Hampton Downs, Andy Culpin let me drive the Marcos LM500 in the parade to mark 50 years of Marcos, but the oil pressure warning came on and scared of wrecking an engine built out of "unobtainium", I parked it. Subsequent investigation showed that we were just travelling too slowly, stuck behind the safety car, as the warning came up at a relatively high oil pressure...

jim short
12-27-2012, 11:37 PM
Hi Jim Great to here from you. You are right about the year and and your car in the gully such a long time ago one tends to forget. Jim i would like to catch up with you soom time i will be raceing down at taupo on the 26 & 27th of jan & then hampton downs in early feb not shore of the dates yet. My Porsche is a 944 s2 what a fantastic car to race the motor is still standerd but have fully worked the suspension & brakes over. The car handels great and putting up some good times. Have you still got your Porsche and compete?. I wish you a merry xmas & a happy new year & hope to catch up with you soon. Cheers Graeme Park.

Hi Graeme yes still have 911 no Geof rebuilt it ,not allowed to touch it!!! new body ex usa new everything as well.I almost bought 944 some yrs back,good car.Carol Bay Park Sec.{pretty blond} one of Tonys dream girls, she and Garry brought one over a few months back red convert. real nice car.will catch up shortly Regards Jim

Graeme Park
12-28-2012, 07:51 AM
Graham's still having the odd gallop in a Porsche 944 S2 and still goes hard.

Hi Glen. Great to hear From you .Yes it would be good to catch up and reminisce on old times. June the 16th sounds good, no i didnt work for Broadspeed but worked for Brabhams in early 1967 and then worked for John Cooper raceing till 1969 then got maried and came home.Any how it will be great to catch up soon Cheers G.P.

Jizim
12-30-2012, 03:00 AM
Hi Graeme I think the car on grass is Shack Manon green Escort, Bruce and I were on the gully side,1984???

Not Shack Manon Jim....Shack is Bruce's dad. He was a very good racer in his own right with a very very fast Mini that went off on the same corner. The green Escort is Sheree Wong's dad Dave and it seems like they all enjoyed a coming off on "Chinamans Hill". (with respect of course) I do remember a clash you and I had at the same spot although we never touched guards you took off to the infield...shit I was worried about you there Jim. You were fast Jim...but not fast enough to shut down the Green Blurr that was always in front of you..........loved our racing at close quarters and knowing you wouldnt pull a punch and have us both off....catch up soon mate at Hulme Fest.....PLEASE!!

Jizim
12-30-2012, 03:14 AM
Hi Graeme....bloody nora you probably have driven past me a dozen times of late. (the only time you were able to as well as that pesky VW special of Jim's) ....I will look out for you mate. I will be driving SC at Hampton and Puke etc so come over and catch up.....all the old team eventually call by. We need a re union....(Rod thats your call mate.....at HD Hulme Fest??). Looking Ford to seeing you soon Graeme for a refresh....Bobs never far away.... Great aye...Neat memories in the best years of NZ Motorsport..70's/90's. kind regards Tony rutherford. Merry Christmas you lot.

jim short
12-30-2012, 05:35 AM
Not Shack Manon Jim....Shack is Bruce's dad. He was a very good racer in his own right with a very very fast Mini that went off on the same corner. The green Escort is Sheree Wong's dad Dave and it seems like they all enjoyed a coming off on "Chinamans Hill". (with respect of course) I do remember a clash you and I had at the same spot although we never touched guards you took off to the infield...shit I was worried about you there Jim. You were fast Jim...but not fast enough to shut down the Green Blurr that was always in front of you..........loved our racing at close quarters and knowing you wouldnt pull a punch and have us both off....catch up soon mate at Hulme Fest.....PLEASE!!

Tony I knew it was a mate,cousie of Bruce ,you be right ,The only time I went off in the infield was to check up on Bruce and warn him about not giving way to cars on his right,then again was along side into the lefthander and getting on the marbels? 1st time back as you will remember sending me into the wooden fence,no one to blame but me trying and about to pass that twin turbo rocket.Can you believe John Win. saying he knew it was going to hapen.I look at it on tape now and again ,never seen a car turn sideways as quick as that day.Yes Rod can get a party together be great, more and more on RS ,not bad for 30 yrs ago

Rod Grimwood
12-30-2012, 07:32 AM
Aye, the old 'Chinamans Hill' was famous back then, Shack in his Mini into creek, a few years later Bruce into bank on outside and being told by then new wife, ' you race no more'. 2 months later a new Escort appears down Barrys Point Rd, (think wife thought Bruce was away working alot on weekends) Then it visited the then new wooden fence along the outside. Then the one you have mentioned when a handful went off inside and the rest went off outside after what i thought was a dabble of oil was deposited. Remember a dark line starting out of hairpin and then going off coming around the left hander and spinning across grass and parking backwards at bottom of grass bank, Empty pants, grab a gear and slip and slide back onto track and head off up toward 'Rothmans' (top of hill) and seeing flags and cars parked all over the place.
Short race that one. (no pun intended Jim)

ERC. Yes it was a quick Mazda and Tony drove it very well and a favorite at club curcuit, and also admired at other tracks. It was quick for a road registered car.

Graeme Park
12-30-2012, 09:26 AM
Graeme, compliments of the season to you. Years ago when I lived in Tauranga, I visited your place and had a good look at the Marina, think we discussed some alterations for the rear suspension. Sorry, can't remember the details, my memory is pretty dodgy these days!
Good luck with your Porsche racing, glad to see you are keeping your hand in.

Hi Grant . I have lost your last message you sent me so hope this gets you . My amail is agpark @ xtra. co .nz
We are changing to vodafone sometime in January. Our new email address will be mcgibbonpark@vodafone.co.nz
Andree being a modern woman, retained her surname (McGibbon).

I lost Anne with cancer 3yrs ago . I got married 8 mths ago and we had our honeymoon in England & Europe visiting a few race traks that i had been at in the late 60s.

Interesting that you are doing an Anglia up in the States. I raced one of those in the mid 60s . Bought the car off Barry Phillips and John Murphy sold me a lot of parts off his Anglia which made it a very quick car. So much so that Barry bought it back off me before i went to England. He was racing a Lotus Cortina at the time and I was giving him a run for his money. By the way, John Murphy who is well into his 70s, is still racing and goes like a bat out of hell, he's an incredible driver. Any how I wish you well in the new year. Please tell us more about your Anglia. Cheers G.P.

Rod Grimwood
12-30-2012, 09:08 PM
Graeme, the Murphy you are talking about, did he live in Belmont/Devonport on the North Shore of Auck way back then.

Graeme Park
12-30-2012, 10:12 PM
Graeme, the Murphy you are talking about, did he live in Belmont/Devonport on the North Shore of Auck way back then.

Hi Rod No John has always lived in Waihi on his farms .The Anglia he used to race was black and his nick name was farmer Murphy.In later years he raced formula Fords and a number of other cars. He now does mainly hillclimbes in his Evo 4s and Saburu WRXs. Rod would you have John Learmouth contact numbar. Any how i wish you a happy new year catch up soon. Cheers G.P.

Grant Ellwood
12-30-2012, 10:21 PM
Hi Grant . I have lost your last message you sent me so hope this gets you . My amail is agpark @ xtra. co .nz
We are changing to vodafone sometime in January. Our new email address will be mcgibbonpark@vodafone.co.nz
Andree being a modern woman, retained her surname (McGibbon).

I lost Anne with cancer 3yrs ago . I got married 8 mths ago and we had our honeymoon in England & Europe visiting a few race traks that i had been at in the late 60s.

Interesting that you are doing an Anglia up in the States. I raced one of those in the mid 60s . Bought the car off Barry Phillips and John Murphy sold me a lot of parts off his Anglia which made it a very quick car. So much so that Barry bought it back off me before i went to England. He was racing a Lotus Cortina at the time and I was giving him a run for his money. By the way, John Murphy who is well into his 70s, is still racing and goes like a bat out of hell, he's an incredible driver. Any how I wish you well in the new year. Please tell us more about your Anglia. Cheers G.P.

Hi Graeme
I'll email you some pics of my Anglia in its current state, haven't done much work on the rebuild yet but have collected some goodies.
I also have a Mk1 Cortina GT which needs a rebuild,I'll probably fix that up as a road car. In the interim might borrow the 1500 engine and front struts for the Anglebox. The series I would run in is Sportscar Vintage Racing Association which recently changed ownership. The previous organisation which ran vintage racing on the east coast tracks handy to me approved the Cortina engine on the basis that we ran those specs in NZ back in the day. However waiting to hear from the new guys whether that still stands otherwise might have to run a 1200 (and front drum brakes instead of the Cortina discs).
Thanks for the email addresses! Grant

bob homewood
12-30-2012, 10:37 PM
Hi Graeme
I'll email you some pics of my Anglia in its current state, haven't done much work on the rebuild yet but have collected some goodies.
I also have a Mk1 Cortina GT which needs a rebuild,I'll probably fix that up as a road car. In the interim might borrow the 1500 engine and front struts for the Anglebox. The series I would run in is Sportscar Vintage Racing Association which recently changed ownership. The previous organisation which ran vintage racing on the east coast tracks handy to me approved the Cortina engine on the basis that we ran those specs in NZ back in the day. However waiting to hear from the new guys whether that still stands otherwise might have to run a 1200 (and front drum brakes instead of the Cortina discs).
Thanks for the email addresses! Grant
Grant ,
Anglia Supers ran Disc brakes ,bugger ,I had a set of Anglia Super Homoligation papers up until recently ,but gave them away , you should be able to get another set .don't forget they ran the 5 bearing engines and discs in the UK and Australia as well and the Allardette was sold in this form I believe ? I'll catch you on email after the New Year ,All the best ,Bob

Grant Ellwood
12-30-2012, 11:24 PM
Grant ,
Anglia Supers ran Disc brakes ,bugger ,I had a set of Anglia Super Homoligation papers up until recently ,but gave them away , you should be able to get another set .don't forget they ran the 5 bearing engines and discs in the UK and Australia as well and the Allardette was sold in this form I believe ? I'll catch you on email after the New Year ,All the best ,Bob

Hey Bob, thanks for that info. I read somewhere that the north American Anglia Supers ran disc brakes too but the several I know about have all got drums. The Ford info lists the 112E engine but I've only seen 109Es, mine included. But if there are Hom papers available that will be a clincher. Thanks again for that great news and cheers for New Year! Grant

bob homewood
12-30-2012, 11:40 PM
Hey Bob, thanks for that info. I read somewhere that the north American Anglia Supers ran disc brakes too but the several I know about have all got drums. The Ford info lists the 112E engine but I've only seen 109Es, mine included. But if there are Hom papers available that will be a clincher. Thanks again for that great news and cheers for New Year! Grant

Yes try and get yourself a set of the papers ,the papers I had listed the Discs ,4 speed all syncro close ratio geabox.LSD and all the options on bits for the engine,5.5 rims etc

Steve Holmes
12-31-2012, 02:27 AM
Hi Jim and Rod, some photos of the Marina

Easter 1984 Baypark - Jim Short and myself

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Christmas 1984 - Baypark - Warwick Grey and myself

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Pukekohe Grand Prix 1986 Ian Algie and myself (Jim your car come off in the grass just behind us)

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Baypark with Harold Wooten and myself

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Christmas Baypark Start

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The Marina wheel base was extended by 4 inches, the motor, gear box and diff were all as one unit and had Jag independent rear suspension with splined half shafts with a top wish bone added. Front suspension had Jag XJ6 suspension which I made up top rocker arms with inboard mounted adjustable shocks. The Motor was a P76 turbo charged.

Does anyone know where this car is now?

Cheers,

Graeme (Black Park)

Hi there Graeme, its awesome to see you on here. Welcome to the site. Thanks for posting these pics of the Marina. I'd also love to know where it got to. When did you last race it and when did you sell it?

The Roaring Season has become a real hot spot for 70s and 80s sports sedan pilots!

Graeme Park
12-31-2012, 08:41 AM
Grant ,
Anglia Supers ran Disc brakes ,bugger ,I had a set of Anglia Super Homoligation papers up until recently ,but gave them away , you should be able to get another set .don't forget they ran the 5 bearing engines and discs in the UK and Australia as well and the Allardette was sold in this form I believe ? I'll catch you on email after the New Year ,All the best ,Bob

Hello Bob .Compliments of the season to you.It would be great to catch up with you .Do you still take that fabulous Escort of yours out for a race. That was a great car that you built Bob way ahead of it times in the 80s. See you soon Cheers Graeme Park.

Graeme Park
12-31-2012, 09:01 AM
Hi Graeme....bloody nora you probably have driven past me a dozen times of late. (the only time you were able to as well as that pesky VW special of Jim's) ....I will look out for you mate. I will be driving SC at Hampton and Puke etc so come over and catch up.....all the old team eventually call by. We need a re union....(Rod thats your call mate.....at HD Hulme Fest??). Looking Ford to seeing you soon Graeme for a refresh....Bobs never far away.... Great aye...Neat memories in the best years of NZ Motorsport..70's/90's. kind regards Tony rutherford. Merry Christmas you lot.

Gidday Tony. If i had known you where driving the S.C. I would have come over and given you some cheek. Its going to be good to catch up with Tony. See you soon mate. We now tow my car number 34 with our motorhome. Drop by next time and join us for coffee. Cheers G.P.

Graeme Park
12-31-2012, 09:32 PM
Hi there Graeme, its awesome to see you on here. Welcome to the site. Thanks for posting these pics of the Marina. I'd also love to know where it got to. When did you last race it and when did you sell it?

The Roaring Season has become a real hot spot for 70s and 80s sports sedan pilots!

Hi There Steve .Yes its great to be able to catch up with you lot. I was told about this site by Sid Davis, he has a porsche the same as mine, and pedals it bloody hard . Sid and his son Roger have helped me a lot in setting my car up, great guys. The class we race in is clasic trials, a great bunch. A lot of us are golden oldies, I think our average age would be about 60. Graeme Hallen has helped me a lot. Used to race with him back in the 60s. He raced a HWM sports car, He now races a Mustang and a Toyota M5. Anyhow back to the Marina. I think I last raced it at Bay Park during Easter 86 and sold it not long after to John Coulton of Hastings. He managed to blow the motor up not long after and put a chevy in it which I think stuffed the handlig up beause it was a much heavier motor. It's great catching up you. Happy new year.Cheers, G.P.

rf84
01-01-2013, 12:29 AM
Nearly right. The Marina is still with John but the spelling is Caulton, not Coulton. I will not give you his phone no. but he lives a few hundred metres from me here in Havelock North at 5 Te Puna Place Havelock North and he is in the phone book.

jim short
01-01-2013, 03:06 AM
John ran in the North vSouth {five carsvfivecars}in 1987 Teratonga,,Ruapuna, back down to Levels!! then Manfield and Bay Park the South just won by about a thousand points!!!

Graeme Park
01-03-2013, 08:16 AM
Graeme, the Murphy you are talking about, did he live in Belmont/Devonport on the North Shore of Auck way back then.

Hi Rod I have made a mistake with the dates i am racing . It is taupo 12&13th and then H.D. on 26 & 27th . Hopeing to catch up with you all somewhere along the line. Cheers G.P.

Carlo
01-03-2013, 07:03 PM
Hey Bob, thanks for that info. I read somewhere that the north American Anglia Supers ran disc brakes too but the several I know about have all got drums. The Ford info lists the 112E engine but I've only seen 109Es, mine included. But if there are Hom papers available that will be a clincher. Thanks again for that great news and cheers for New Year! Grant

Hi Grant, near the end of their life Ford evolved the use of the stronger 109E block as the production unit for not only the 1340cc engine but also to the 997cc 105E and the 1198cc 112E engine.

Thinking back about it, just about every 1966/67 Anglia that I worked on had a 109E block fitted.

Grant Ellwood
01-03-2013, 10:02 PM
Hi Grant, near the end of their life Ford evolved the use of the stronger 109E block as the production unit for not only the 1340cc engine but also to the 997cc 105E and the 1198cc 112E engine.

Thinking back about it, just about every 1966/67 Anglia that I worked on had a 109E block fitted.

Thanks Carlo, I guess I should measure the stroke, hopefully find its has the 1198 crank! Do you know if the 109E main bearing caps are stronger than the 105E caps? Cheers,Grant

Rod Grimwood
01-04-2013, 01:34 AM
Bob will be able to answer, but didn't some run VW pistons as they were a bit stronger.
Can not remember who, but can remember this discussion way back in early 70s with Anglia boys.

Carlo
01-04-2013, 03:10 AM
Thanks Carlo, I guess I should measure the stroke, hopefully find its has the 1198 crank! Do you know if the 109E main bearing caps are stronger than the 105E caps? Cheers,Grant

We used to fit a steel centre main bearing cap as they did fracture when you stacked some numbers on as the crank could whip a wee bit with the std cap.

If you have the sump off you may just find crank identification marking indication it as a 105E, 112E or 109E unit

Jac Mac
01-04-2013, 03:56 AM
Mazda 1500 DOHC pistons & Isuzu Piazza Rods are just a couple of more modern alternatives for playing with these motors to stretch the capacity....that is if your class/association will not get their noses out of joint when you think outside the square. With the benefit of hindsight & progress a girdle would be more help for the main caps these days..

Grant Ellwood
01-04-2013, 11:50 AM
We used to fit a steel centre main bearing cap as they did fracture when you stacked some numbers on as the crank could whip a wee bit with the std cap.

If you have the sump off you may just find crank identification marking indication it as a 105E, 112E or 109E unit

Thanks again Carlo, I'll take a look when the temperature in the workshop gets above freezing.........

Grant Ellwood
01-04-2013, 11:54 AM
Mazda 1500 DOHC pistons & Isuzu Piazza Rods are just a couple of more modern alternatives for playing with these motors to stretch the capacity....that is if your class/association will not get their noses out of joint when you think outside the square. With the benefit of hindsight & progress a girdle would be more help for the main caps these days..

SVRA are good with engine regs recognising the difficulty of locating period parts. The internals are free so no problems using any of the bits you mentioned. They are more concerned about guys telling porkies about their engine capacity.

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The John McCormack Australian Charger, as described in the first post.

That is one awesome Charger!

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02-06-2013, 10:38 PM
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I wonder what happened to that Monaro Ron Sylvester built?

Jac Mac
02-06-2013, 11:19 PM
IIRC at the time there were going to be two SPCS Monaros built, the other as a drag car?, got a feeling Brent Thorpe might have been involved, might be wrong though...

Steve Holmes
02-10-2013, 03:10 AM
Thanks Jac. Does the family still own the Monaro circuit racer?

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02-19-2013, 09:29 PM
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02-19-2013, 09:32 PM
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Steve Holmes
02-19-2013, 10:37 PM
Wow! These are outstanding Ross! Thanks for posting. Whose is the Escort #77?

BMCBOY
02-19-2013, 10:57 PM
Wow! These are outstanding Ross! Thanks for posting. Whose is the Escort #77?

Bryce Platt - I believe Rod Grimwood now owns this car.

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Steve Holmes
02-20-2013, 02:59 AM
Thats awesome! Thanks Ross.

Rod Grimwood
02-21-2013, 09:22 AM
Bryce Platt - I believe Rod Grimwood now owns this car.

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That is being investigated, as differing stories of 2 cars. but will get to bottom of it as every photo shows another similarity. The wheels may be another thing.
Cage same, front suspension pick up points for bars etc same. interesting.
Murray Soames involved in a couple of Escorts at time so still digging.

Steve Holmes
02-21-2013, 07:47 PM
Would be really interesting to know Rod, keep us posted.

Steve Holmes
06-11-2013, 11:51 PM
I'd like to say thanks to Jim Short for allowing me to post the following pics on here. Most of the pics appear to have been taken at the same Bay Park event, probably around 1986/87.

On the grid just prior to the start, just check both the size of the grid and the size of the crowd. And man, what a line-up of cars! Certainly one of the best fields of combined North Island Sports Sedan and South Island OSCA cars of the era. The pics are actually photos taken of photos, so are a bit grainy, but thats OK, its still awesome to see these cars.

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Steve Holmes
06-11-2013, 11:53 PM
From the pits, the Trevor Crowe Oldsmobile V8 powered Starlet. This is his second V8 Starlet. He only raced this car one season, then sold it to Rodger Freeth.

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Steve Holmes
06-11-2013, 11:55 PM
Another South Island OSCA racer, John Osborne in the Chevy V8 powered RX7. This car met its eventual demise at Pukekohe a few years later. Was a great looking car. My understanding is the car does still survive though?

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Steve Holmes
06-11-2013, 11:56 PM
Bob Homewoods beautiful BDG (I think?) powered Escort Sports Sedan. This lightweight car was an absolute rocket ship. Note the position of the exhaust out the side of the bodywork. This car sat VERY low! Bob still owns it, and given enough spare time, will eventually get it back out on the track.

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Steve Holmes
06-11-2013, 11:59 PM
Ralph Mossmans awesome little (Chevy?) V8 powered Viva. I think this car was 5 litre powered, against the 6 litre opposition, so a little down on power, but it was a great handling car. I believe it was destroyed in a crash?
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Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 12:03 AM
Former hot rodder turned racer Rob Kennard, another of the leading South Island OSCA racers, in his V8 powered MkIV (with MkV grill) Cortina. This car was actually Ford powered, a bit rare back then, against mostly Chevy powered cars. My understanding is that Rob is now Sheriff of a small California town. The Cortina later went to Kim Buckley, and I believe Steve Ross might have it now? Damn thats a bright paint scheme!

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Rod Grimwood
06-12-2013, 12:04 AM
I think John may have the Mazda back and doing rebuild, heard some rumblings when down Ruapuna while back.

Also think Ralphs little Viva (body) is around back of workshop.

Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 12:07 AM
The amazing Ian Algie Alfetta, with alloy centre mounted Milodin V8. One of the most radical race cars seen in New Zealand, and very quick. It ran 13" diameter Minilite wheels, which were actually wider in the rear than they were tall. Algie himself sat in the area where the back seat used to be, while the motor sat squarely in the middle of the cockpit. Gordon Burr now owns this car, and takes it out for demonstration laps at historic racing events.

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Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 12:09 AM
I think John may have the Mazda back and doing rebuild, heard some rumblings when down Ruapuna while back.

Also think Ralphs little Viva (body) is around back of workshop.

Thanks for the update Rod. I remember speaking with Osborne about the RX7 several years ago, and I thought he said at the time Russell Due in Taihape owned it, and John really wanted to see it back out on the track. I guess he decided to just do it himself. Great news also about the Viva. I thought that car was gone, so its good to know it may have survived.

Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 12:14 AM
Wayne Huxfords V8 Capri. This car first appeared in 1979, and raced competitively through until about 1996, by which time the landscape had changed completely, and Huxford was up against US space-frame Trans-Am cars. The Capri started life looking quite similar to how its pictured here, though without the large rear wing, and with a smaller front spoiler. Initially it was powered by the Morrand Chevy motor out of the David Oxton Begg FM5, and I think thats still the power unit shown here. Over time, to keep pace, the Capri was modified further and further, repowered, to eventually bare little resemblance to the car in the picture. To the best of my knowledge Huxford still owns it.

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Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 12:20 AM
One of the best looking cars of the era, Brett Willis' stunning Chevy V8 powered Commodore. The workmanship of this car was incredible. Lots of beautiful hand fabricated wonder to enjoy. Note the reward position of the motor, right at the forward point of the windscreen, next to where Brett sat. This car raced for a few seasons, always at the pointy end, before Brett built a Chevy V8 powered Maxda MS6. I personally preferred the Commodore. It seems to have disappeared after he sold it, I believe Brett is trying to hunt it back down.

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Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 12:29 AM
Another Chevy V8 Commodore, this time a South Island car, of OSCA racer Steve Vigurs. This is the car originally run by Clyde Collins for his buddy Avon Hyde in PDL colours in OSCA in the early 1980s. But I believe Clyde actually bought it as a project that had already received a lot of work before he got it? This car went through several hands, in both the South and North Islands, including Glen Jones, Grant Taylor, and, I think (?) Michael Johnson? It was eventually written off in a South Island event.

Prior to this car, Vigurs had raced another former Clyde Collins car, his old MkIII Cortina V8. He also went on to build a Chevy V8 powered Mitsubishi Celeste for OSCA. Does anyone know what happened to that car?

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Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 12:39 AM
Long time OSCA racer Ian Munt, in his beloved Chevy V8 Capri. This car was built in Australia by Bruce Carey, and raced in early Aussie Sports Sedan events in NSW, mostly at Oran Park, in Grace Bros colours, as part of a team which also included Pete Geoghegans Super Falcon and Porsche 911. Munt bought the Capri off Carey while living in Aus, and eventually shipped it back home to Christchurch with him when he returned. The car started out fitted with quite modest wheel arch flares, but over time Munt continued its evolution, fitting box flares and trying a few different engine combos, including fuel-injection. The big rear wing sprouted up in the mid-80s. The colour scheme also changed on a regular basis, from white/orange, to silver/black, green/black as pictured here for sponsor Waterbed World, white/charcoal, and eventually back to white/orange once more. The one main-stay of the car though were the Mawer wheels, which were one of the first sets of Mawer wheels made, as Carey was good friends Dave Mawer.

Ian Munt eventually built up a very nice looking VL Commodore which featured a sort of modified TWR bodykit, but retained the Capri, and it was still in his ownership when he passed away. His son Evan raced the Capri for several more seasons, on a shoe-string budget, but eventually had to sell it, and its now owned by Keith Tunnicliffe.

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Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 12:51 AM
Barry Algia, brother of Ian, raced this radical HT Monaro in North Island Sports Sedan events. The Monaro ran a full front sub-frame, as pictured, and a fuel-injected small block Chevy, with McLaren wheels. Barry rarely ventured beyond Pukekohe and Bay Park to race the Monaro. He still owns it to this day. Another of the Algie brothers built a Chevy Monza, which I have never seen, but would love it if someone had photos of it they could post?

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Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 01:00 AM
Probably one of the widest cars ever to race in New Zealand, Peter Meadows' wild Chev Corvette. I believe this was a space-frame car, and this is possibly the first season Meadows raced it. It was later repainted red and black, for his sponsor at the time whom I can't recall, but for the 1989 season, was repainted white/red/blue. Meadows suffered a big shunt in the car during that 1989 season at Pukekohe, and the body was severely damaged, and I seem to recall another body was flown out from the US for the next round at Manfeild. That season ex-pat Kiwi Steve Dymand shipped an IMSA Corvette out from the US to race as part of the NZ Sports Sedan championship, albeit for no points, in preparation for an assault on the IMSA championship that year. So Kiwi's were treated to the sight of two Corvette's that season.

Meadows doesn't appear to have raced the Corvette again after that 1989 season, and in fact the car itself appears to have vanished completely. Anyone have any clues?

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Steve Holmes
06-12-2013, 01:04 AM
Last one! Here is Jim Short, who supplied these pics, pictured with his little Porsche 911, which added a touch of European class to the rugged Kiwi big banger sedan fields in the 1980s. The Porsche was a normally aspirated example, so down on power to the V8s, but handled superbly, and Jim always enjoyed himself. Here he is seen with fellow racers Ralph Mossman and Brett Willis.

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Shoreboy57
06-12-2013, 01:43 AM
What a great set of pics - thanks Steve and Jim. More than a few cars that you would like to see running again

rf84
06-12-2013, 03:25 AM
Russell Due mentioned in #407 above apparently finally succumbed to cancer late last year. He had moved from Taihape a few years ago and was living a few hundred metres from the Manfield circuit. He had imported a Trans Am car-don't know about the RX7. Neil Deighton (the mayor of Mangaweka) would be the one to ask.

Rod Grimwood
06-12-2013, 03:47 AM
Thanks for the update Rod. I remember speaking with Osborne about the RX7 several years ago, and I thought he said at the time Russell Due in Taihape owned it, and John really wanted to see it back out on the track. I guess he decided to just do it himself. Great news also about the Viva. I thought that car was gone, so its good to know it may have survived.



Don't know if Viva 'survived' but bits might of

Rod Grimwood
06-12-2013, 03:53 AM
Last one! Here is Jim Short, who supplied these pics, pictured with his little Porsche 911, which added a touch of European class to the rugged Kiwi big banger sedan fields in the 1980s. The Porsche was a normally aspirated example, so down on power to the V8s, but handled superbly, and Jim always enjoyed himself. Here he is seen with fellow racers Ralph Mossman and Brett Willis.

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Grant Brennan in back ground on right in driving suit talking to Tony Rutherford I think

Gee what a bunch of young looking rascals.

John McKechnie
06-12-2013, 04:03 AM
Barry Algia, brother of Ian, raced this radical HT Monaro in North Island Sports Sedan events. The Monaro ran a full front sub-frame, as pictured, and a fuel-injected small block Chevy, with McLaren wheels. Barry rarely ventured beyond Pukekohe and Bay Park to race the Monaro. He still owns it to this day. Another of the Algie brothers built a Chevy Monza, which I have never seen, but would love it if someone had photos of it they could post?

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Steve- Barry absolutely want to run this again, and will be at Georges first meeting in September.
Another detail is the transaxle was taken from the Katipo MJ-70
I will ask him tomorrow about pics of the Monza

Steve Holmes
06-13-2013, 08:13 PM
Don't know if Viva 'survived' but bits might of

But did the body survive Rod? Or parts of it?

Rod Grimwood
06-14-2013, 01:51 AM
Ok lets have ago !
Front left Trevor Crowe Starlet V8, behind him Bruce Manon Escort 2ltr Turbo, Behind him John Osborne RX7/V8, to right of him Jim Short Porsche, right of him Rob Kennard Cortina MkV1 V8, right of him Ian Algie Alfetta V8, behind him Steve Vigurs Commodore V8,to left of him Brett Willis Commodore V8, left of him Tony Rutherford Mazda RX2 Turbo, behind and to right of him don't know, to very right Peter Meadows Corvette, behind him Bob Homewood Escort BDG, behind him Dave Smythe Escort 2ltr, to left of Smythe Me Escort 2ltr, to left of me and behind Vern Smith Commodore, to very left black car is Craig Pulman Falcon Coupe GT and at very back is George Shewiery in Mustang
Can not work out the rest

Just worked out that behind Willis and beside Meadows is Ralph Mossman Viva


And inside of fence from left to right, not mine, mine, not mine, and Definately not mine.

bob homewood
06-15-2013, 07:55 AM
Bob Homewoods beautiful BDG (I think?) powered Escort Sports Sedan. This lightweight car was an absolute rocket ship. Note the position of the exhaust out the side of the bodywork. This car sat VERY low! Bob still owns it, and given enough spare time, will eventually get it back out on the track.

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Yes I still have it ,it only had the BDG in it for the last couple of meetings right at the tailend of the time I raced it when it was painted orange and white ,all the early races when the car was plain white as the photo here it ran a 1850cc Lotus Twin Cam with a Hart 416B head and Lucas injection ,the season when the car was Blue and White it actually ran a 1600cc Short stroke Paul England Lotus Twin Cam engine with the Lucas injection

Grant Sprague
06-15-2013, 08:06 AM
Hey Bob , I remember the first time I saw yr car at B/P [the escort] it was a rocket ship in its day & well done , ......... as years went by we ended up meeting at Ramarama motel at the dinner table this is where I first met you , at start of pre 65 , we have had lots of laughs & fun , love to Delwyn & boys ........ Grant & Kylie

GD66
06-15-2013, 08:06 AM
Nice to hear from you, Bob. Tell us...what did it weigh ?
Looks pretty light...:cool:

Oldfart
06-15-2013, 08:33 AM
Ok lets have ago !

And inside of fence from left to right, not mine, mine, not mine, and Definately not mine.

Thought you might have said "definitely not mine, mine, not mine etc!"

Grant Sprague
06-15-2013, 08:38 AM
yep not sure who the pole dancer is but looks familiar :cool:

Rod Grimwood
06-15-2013, 08:32 PM
yep not sure who the pole dancer is but looks familiar :cool:



Been a few years Grant, but a couple of years before with my little Angle box sitting on the left side of trailer at BP my then girl friend, (note the flash hair) and in picture a couple of years later climbing pole my then and still wife. Gee don't they change (the cars I mean)

Oldfart
06-15-2013, 10:04 PM
Sponsors fine products in hand!

Grant Sprague
06-15-2013, 11:08 PM
Been a few years Grant, but a couple of years before with my little Angle box sitting on the left side of trailer at BP my then girl friend, (note the flash hair) and in picture a couple of years later climbing pole my then and still wife. Gee don't they change (the cars I mean) Ha hahahah Roddy yep , they should get faster [the cars] yep that's you love the pik, did not even know you had raced an Anglia , we ended up getting ours to 1,7 at b/P with lots of work, & I believe a couple yrs ago Andrew Stevenson got his down to 1.10 puke , but using Nissan crank now allowable , but still the old block &head , we tried doing a down port was a marked improvement but didn't hold to gether long enough to get the best out of it .... I don't think you ever meet Kylie [my wife] mate she still looks fantastic , lovely lady & 20 yrs younger , heheheheheh

Milan Fistonic
06-16-2013, 02:33 AM
Probably one of the widest cars ever to race in New Zealand, Peter Meadows' wild Chev Corvette. I believe this was a space-frame car, and this is possibly the first season Meadows raced it. It was later repainted red and black, for his sponsor at the time whom I can't recall, but for the 1989 season, was repainted white/red/blue. Meadows suffered a big shunt in the car during that 1989 season at Pukekohe, and the body was severely damaged, and I seem to recall another body was flown out from the US for the next round at Manfeild. That season ex-pat Kiwi Steve Dymand shipped an IMSA Corvette out from the US to race as part of the NZ Sports Sedan championship, albeit for no points, in preparation for an assault on the IMSA championship that year. So Kiwi's were treated to the sight of two Corvette's that season.

Meadows doesn't appear to have raced the Corvette again after that 1989 season, and in fact the car itself appears to have vanished completely. Anyone have any clues?

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Tony Marsh was running this Datsun Sunny in 1988.

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Steve Holmes
06-16-2013, 06:40 AM
Oh wow, fantastic Milan! Doesn't that Corvette look sinister! I'd love to know what happened to this car.

Steve Holmes
06-16-2013, 06:43 AM
Some more pics from Jim Short. These days Bruce Manon does a lot of racing in his white and blue MkII Ford Escort classic race car, but back in the 1980s he had this very fast turbocharged MkII Escort Sports Sedan. Compared to some of the wild looking machinery of the period, the Escort looked quite tame, but could really hold its own.

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Steve Holmes
06-16-2013, 06:47 AM
Here is the Steve Webling Alfa. Is this the same Alfa that was the Coppertone car?

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Steve Holmes
06-16-2013, 06:49 AM
The quick little Glen Jones Datsun 1200, before Glen purchased the white and red Chevy V8 Commodore pictured above with Steve Vigurs.

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Steve Holmes
06-16-2013, 06:53 AM
Another of the OSCA boys, John Fisher in the Chevy V8 powered Capri. This is the car formerly raced by Avon Hyde and owned/run by Clyde Collins. But well before that it was raced by Frank Ryan, back in the mid-70s. Pretty sure Ryan ran it with a Ford motor too. Its had a lot of owners over the years, and been pretty knocked around. It appears now at historic events, but its been fitted with a different body kit, because the kit fitted here was in pretty bad shape.

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Steve Holmes
06-16-2013, 06:58 AM
And here is a car I'd only ever heard about, but never actually seen. This is the Chevy Monza, raced by another of the Algie brothers. Rod, which Algie was this? Its a good looking car, but rarely seen. Looking closely, it actually appears as if it might be a road going Monza modified into a race car, rather than a tube-frame fitted with a Monza body, as most Monza race cars were. But either way, I'd love to know more about it. Where is it now?

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Spgeti
06-16-2013, 07:06 AM
Racer T might know the answer to that Steve....the orange colour is similar.


Here is the Steve Webling Alfa. Is this the same Alfa that was the Coppertone car?

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bob homewood
06-16-2013, 07:30 AM
Nice to hear from you, Bob. Tell us...what did it weigh ?
Looks pretty light...:cool:

612 KG was its weight with the steel block engine ,to be honest I never weighed it with the later alloy block engine and the alloy diff head

Steve Holmes
06-16-2013, 07:43 AM
Racer T might know the answer to that Steve....the orange colour is similar.

Thanks Bruce, yes I wondered if this might be the car Tony had.

seaqnmac27
06-16-2013, 07:59 AM
And here is a car I'd only ever heard about, but never actually seen. This is the Chevy Monza, raced by another of the Algie brothers. Rod, which Algie was this? Its a good looking car, but rarely seen. Looking closely, it actually appears as if it might be a road going Monza modified into a race car, rather than a tube-frame fitted with a Monza body, as most Monza race cars were. But either way, I'd love to know more about it. Where is it now?

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David?

David Algie
06-16-2013, 10:42 PM
And here is a car I'd only ever heard about, but never actually seen. This is the Chevy Monza, raced by another of the Algie brothers. Rod, which Algie was this? Its a good looking car, but rarely seen. Looking closely, it actually appears as if it might be a road going Monza modified into a race car, rather than a tube-frame fitted with a Monza body, as most Monza race cars were. But either way, I'd love to know more about it. Where is it now?

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Yeah that would be my car. It is/ was a stock body 77 Monza Spyder with a Lee Dykstra body kit and 500+hp 355 small block. I raced it from '85 through '89 and sold it to John Learmonth of North Shore, Auckland, to race. He proceeded to strip parts off it to sell and buy more parts and as far as I know it never ran again. I sold it for $15,000 but he only ever paid me $12,500 so if anyone knows his whereabouts....
I live in Indianapolis, IN USA and have worked Indy car teams for 27 years and now am doing this.. http://members.iquest.net/~aca/

Rod Grimwood
06-16-2013, 11:38 PM
Hello David, been along long time. Loved that car of yours. Wondered what you were upto. Nice looking piece of aircraft, you guy's have been into this for awhile now. What ever happened to your motorbike, that was trick. Bumped into Ian and Barry at Hampton downs last year, good to catch up.
Do you have any more photos of the Monza and Bike. (not many would know about the bike)

David Algie
06-17-2013, 03:49 AM
Hi Rod, been awhile for everyone for me. The bike you are probably thinking of was Nevil's FZR1000 (there were a few...), it ended up over here in the US. Only photos I have I need to scan, like most all were from before the PC, will do that and get them up.
The Plane, the LP1, has been close to a 17 year project from scratch.

Rod Grimwood
06-17-2013, 07:16 AM
Yea remember now, Nevils, was under the stairs in entrance to think your parents place one night we dropped in, mean bit of gear. Didn't he do frame etc.

Pretty plane, had a mate I worked with who started to build one similar, composite and after 2 go's at laying up fuselage he ditched the lot, plug/frame etc.

rogered
06-17-2013, 10:37 AM
Here is the Steve Webling Alfa. Is this the same Alfa that was the Coppertone car?

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Pretty sure it is.

Rod Grimwood
06-17-2013, 10:57 PM
Ran up against the Alfa a few times Steve and sure it was the ex Coppertone car. Had some pretty good dices back then.

I think the young Webling in FF a couple of years back is his son. Pretty good little peddler like his old man.

TonyG
06-21-2013, 11:01 PM
Inn reply to the question about this cars whereabouts from earlier in this thread.


[QUOTE=TonyG;4139]Peter Meadows Corvette - does it still exist ?
http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq204/TGPhotography/Scanned%20Images/img034-2.jpg

I believe not!! back in about 96 i bought the complete diff, disc to disc out of this car and fitted it to the Hoffman Mustang when i built it as it was a full floater, and its still in there!! i purchased it from Duncan Fox when he was still at Buckland Beach, he said the bare frame was in a towing yard not far way, i drove past and can remember looking thought the yard(as i drove past) and could see the skeleton of a corvette with "Meadows" above the screen!! and even thats more than i wanted to know back then!!

Hope this helps

Dale Mathers

Rod Grimwood
06-22-2013, 08:31 PM
Inn reply to the question about this cars whereabouts from earlier in this thread.

[QUOTE=Kiwiboss;4207]



Lyall Martin from Lyall Carpainters along with Bruce Torrance the panel beater that worked with Lyall spent a lot of hours on this body. It was cut down middle and had around a foot put in it, and Lyall painted it. I think when it was damaged in shunt with young (then) Shane Windleburn at Puke some one else did touch up. (there was a reason for this apparently, Maybe Lyall was to busy)

John H
06-26-2013, 07:07 AM
And here is a car I'd only ever heard about, but never actually seen. This is the Chevy Monza, raced by another of the Algie brothers. Rod, which Algie was this? Its a good looking car, but rarely seen. Looking closely, it actually appears as if it might be a road going Monza modified into a race car, rather than a tube-frame fitted with a Monza body, as most Monza race cars were. But either way, I'd love to know more about it. Where is it now?

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I had a good look at this car... 1992-3 One of the Algie guys lived just off West Tamaki Rd. I was living near by and heard him as he blasted up and down West Tamaki Rd. What a noise. He was working for Truesports Indy car team at the time.

Rod Grimwood
07-05-2013, 10:20 PM
Found this on the OSCA site, It is 1987 when the North boys ventured South to play.
Northern team was Ralph Mossman Viva Chev, Willis Commodore Chev, John Coulton Marina Chev and Jim Short Porsche.
Think this right.
Front is Kennard Cortina, hidden in behind is Mossman Viva then Willis Commodore, Vigurs Commodore, Munty Capri, Fisher Capri, behind is Coulton Marina (black) Shorty in Porsche and Osborne in RX

Rod Grimwood
07-08-2013, 12:49 AM
Heres another from OSCA when some south boys visited Bay Park, Black and white back is Brian Friend Torana Chev (ex Harrington) then Aussie Fitzgerald in Porsche, Silver front is Warwick Grey Viva (Holden) then Osborne Camaro followed by Huxford Capri Chev and in the ex Bullivant Capri Chev is I think Cullinane before it went to Baker or other way round.
What year guys

Habu
07-08-2013, 02:01 AM
Heres another from OSCA when some south boys visited Bay Park, Black and white back is Brian Friend Torana Chev (ex Harrington) then Aussie Fitzgerald in Porsche, Silver front is Warwick Grey Viva (Holden) then Osborne Camaro followed by Huxford Capri Chev and in the ex Bullivant Capri Chev is I think Cullinane before it went to Baker or other way round.
What year guys

My guess is December 1980 / January 1981, and Baker would be the new owner / driver

Steve Holmes
07-10-2013, 09:20 AM
I agree re the ex-Bullivant Capri, this is Baker pictured. The Capri was fitted with McLaren wheels when Baker began racing it, which I assume could have been off the PDL Mustang. But I think you are spot on with everthing else Rod! Good spotting. Great pics !

BMCBOY
02-12-2014, 08:31 AM
I found these photos the other day and thought they may be of interest

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02-12-2014, 08:38 AM
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John McKechnie
02-12-2014, 08:42 AM
WOW, great pix and they all still live 1984-2014.
Monaro does not have the side wheel arch covers here.
Thanks for looking after them for so long and now posting them

Spgeti
02-12-2014, 08:50 AM
Alfetta without door handles.......great photos.

John McKechnie
02-12-2014, 06:08 PM
The door handles were stolen when the box of parts arrived in Canada, never replaced.

Steve Holmes
02-12-2014, 10:02 PM
Wow, these are amazing Ross! Some really great stuff in there. Boy what wild looking cars these were.

Be interesting to know what happened to some of these cars, such as the Brett Willis Commodore and Ralph Mossman Viva.

The Barry Algie Monaro looks good with those smaller rear bubble flares!

Rod Grimwood
02-13-2014, 11:14 PM
Steve, sad to report but Ralphs cars is no more (but bits of it survive in other cars) and Bretts car seems to have gone as well, they have looked but no luck as yet.

Ross, you have some great photos and thanks for shareing, just brilliant.

Habu
02-14-2014, 01:14 AM
Was the RX3 coupe that Harold Wootten is pictured driving, later owned by Jack Broome?

Rod Grimwood
02-14-2014, 02:28 AM
Was the RX3 coupe that Harold Wootten is pictured driving, later owned by Jack Broome?

Yes, blue. Not only that but he had a brewery as well and a tent, and was that handy.

shellsport
02-14-2014, 09:53 AM
What a neat looking DAF !

Rod Grimwood
02-15-2014, 08:17 PM
Couple of photos with 'Cortina t-shirt' given by Rob on trip north, just having the compulsory gum boot drink at Puke ( if you won class that was a compulsory) Mr safety car Tony Rutherford leaning on truck, my brother Mike watching and myself and Ross the entertainment officer indulging.

Other is just in pits discussing matters after running.

Loved the colour of car then and have to convince owner to put it back like that (he reckons it's gay) but that was when it was at it's best.

fullnoise68
02-16-2014, 04:58 AM
Is that Ross Brown, Rod?

Rod Grimwood
02-16-2014, 07:52 AM
Is that Ross Brown, Rod?

Yep, was on Jiggers crew and big supporter of Sports Sedan Assoc, was in tyres (as in wagon behind) and then had tyre shop in Mt Wellington with Dave Jones, couple of characters (think it was 'Red Rooster Tyres)

Apparently in Whakatane way now, so there's another hunt out job.

Steve Holmes
02-18-2014, 01:40 AM
Steve, sad to report but Ralphs cars is no more (but bits of it survive in other cars) and Bretts car seems to have gone as well, they have looked but no luck as yet.

Ross, you have some great photos and thanks for shareing, just brilliant.

Bummer. Thanks Rod. What happened to the Mossman Viva? Was it in a wreck? What actually survives? Is there still a bodyshell somewhere?

I still hold out hope the Willis Commodore will one day be found.

Rod Grimwood
02-18-2014, 08:19 AM
The Viva was stripped and engine and running gear used in other projects around, and nature interrupted with the shell which was unfortunately at back of yard. The engine block is still around (dummy in a build at moment) and this block can tell some stories and has been in a couple of well known cars. Will get life story right from Ralph.

There has been a pretty intense search for Commodore but believe it has been chopped and dicked with and then pulled apart and basically dumped after. I would love to see it again also, it was trick back then.

BMCBOY
02-18-2014, 06:58 PM
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Rod Grimwood
02-18-2014, 10:43 PM
Pretty sure 315 Consul/Capri Holden 6 powered is Jenny Mossman and Torana is Brian Friend (ex Harrington)

seaqnmac27
02-18-2014, 11:37 PM
Pretty sure 315 Consul/Capri Holden 6 powered is Jenny Mossman and Torana is Brian Friend (ex Harrington)

The Consul would be Keith Weir, before Jenny had it. The Escort number 3 is Lance Newton and I assume the Alfa is Ian Algie in its first season in NZ.

Steve Holmes
02-19-2014, 12:11 AM
The Viva was stripped and engine and running gear used in other projects around, and nature interrupted with the shell which was unfortunately at back of yard. The engine block is still around (dummy in a build at moment) and this block can tell some stories and has been in a couple of well known cars. Will get life story right from Ralph.

There has been a pretty intense search for Commodore but believe it has been chopped and dicked with and then pulled apart and basically dumped after. I would love to see it again also, it was trick back then.

Bummer! Thanks Rod. So the Mossman Viva bodyshell is now gone Rod?

Steve Holmes
02-19-2014, 12:15 AM
The Consul would be Keith Weir, before Jenny had it. The Escort number 3 is Lance Newton and I assume the Alfa is Ian Algie in its first season in NZ.

Thanks Sean. What sort of motor did Newton have in this car?

Yes the Alfa is Ian Algie, in a very early guise of this car. I think it was painted cream with fluro orange flares.

The Torana is Brian Friend, ex-Roy Harrington.

Steve Holmes
02-19-2014, 12:16 AM
Anyone got info on the #16 Escort? Looks a lot like the old Wayne Fuller/Roger Brader car.

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Marty
02-19-2014, 12:59 AM
Green haired Keith Weir, Consul, Destitute Racing. Team mate to " who the hell is JT".

Rod Grimwood
02-19-2014, 02:43 AM
Green haired Keith Weir, Consul, Destitute Racing. Team mate to " who the hell is JT".


would he be the smaller one, both top blokes

he also built a Viva little bit like Ralphs and it was black and lime green as was his hair with the safety pin in ear to finish it of. Very clever engineer JT

45DCOE
02-19-2014, 02:54 AM
Anyone got info on the #16 Escort? Looks a lot like the old Wayne Fuller/Roger Brader car.

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Could be Steve Millen, recall 4.2 V8 powered

seaqnmac27
02-19-2014, 03:00 AM
Thanks Sean. What sort of motor did Newton have in this car?

Yes the Alfa is Ian Algie, in a very early guise of this car. I think it was painted cream with fluro orange flares.

The Torana is Brian Friend, ex-Roy Harrington.

3.3L Holden. The footage elsewhere from Baypark 76, it expires in a cloud of smoke early in race 1.

seaqnmac27
02-19-2014, 03:37 AM
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The Cortina would be Ross Caske

Rod Grimwood
02-19-2014, 04:18 AM
Could be Steve Millen, recall 4.2 V8 powered


Steve drove it way after this. It was owned by John Scott from speedway saloon fame. (good bugger)
It had stroked 383 to keep in 4.5 class when John had it.

Grant Ellwood
02-19-2014, 11:54 AM
The Consul would be Keith Weir, before Jenny had it. The Escort number 3 is Lance Newton and I assume the Alfa is Ian Algie in its first season in NZ.

I guess the Consul is the same Phil Rudd raced for a while, was stored in a hanger at Tauranga airport last time I saw it.

Rod Grimwood
02-19-2014, 10:41 PM
Thats it Grant.

Jac Mac
02-20-2014, 02:28 AM
Steve drove it way after this. It was owned by John Scott from speedway saloon fame. (good bugger)
It had stroked 383 to keep in 4.5 class when John had it.
How do you stroke a 383 & get it under 4500cc, ? you NI guys, no wonder your cars are so fast!:), not thinking 253 holden by chance are you?
BTW I see a 2 door Classic 315 saloon on T/Me at moment.

rogered
02-20-2014, 04:57 AM
I guess the Consul is the same Phil Rudd raced for a while, was stored in a hanger at Tauranga airport last time I saw it.

actually it was on trade me for sale before xmas, yellow and around $15,000.
graeme clark? had it

Rod Grimwood
02-20-2014, 07:14 PM
Sorry Jac Typo 283 old Impala slugger.

Jizim
03-17-2014, 12:24 AM
Green haired Keith Weir, Consul, Destitute Racing. Team mate to " who the hell is JT".


would he be the smaller one, both top blokes

he also built a Viva little bit like Ralphs and it was black and lime green as was his hair with the safety pin in ear to finish it of. Very clever engineer JT

JT......John Thorby...bloody hard case critter he was....great competitor...we had lots of battles in my early years..until I leant to use single pulse turbo's as opposed to split pulse which was best for 4 cylinder cars...then he was a blur in my mirror, along with Jim in the modified VW! Regards, Tony Rutherford.

Lindsay G
03-25-2014, 09:01 AM
243782437924380Ok Allan Moffatt and Jim Richards are obvious here but the Camaro I'm not 100% sure but could be John Riley.

Lindsay G
03-25-2014, 09:02 AM
I meant to say that it's Wigram probably about 75.

Lindsay G
03-25-2014, 09:15 AM
2438124382And a couple from Levels probably a bit earlier.

Lindsay G
03-25-2014, 09:27 AM
24383Levels the same day, I've found a few slides that I converted (incidentally Warehouse have slide converters on sale for $50.00 at the moment) i just have to resize them all.

Lindsay G
03-25-2014, 09:34 AM
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Lindsay G
03-25-2014, 09:49 AM
24386243872438824389They're not the greatest but I thought I'ld post everything.

Lindsay G
03-25-2014, 09:58 AM
243902439124392The last one is the Bruce Bellis Cortina but I don't know about the others.

seaqnmac27
03-25-2014, 01:01 PM
243902439124392The last one is the Bruce Bellis Cortina but I don't know about the others.

Is the Capri Bob Slade?

The Camaro #17 Bruce Jenner?

seaqnmac27
03-25-2014, 01:06 PM
24386243872438824389They're not the greatest but I thought I'ld post everything.

Escorts #78 Frank Ryan 62 Ron McPhail, Camaro Bruce Jenner

spinner32
03-25-2014, 05:59 PM
2438124382And a couple from Levels probably a bit earlier.

Comaro #3 is Robbie Farrar, of Safa toolboxes fame. The other Comaro is obviously Dave Baker

spinner32
03-25-2014, 06:08 PM
243902439124392The last one is the Bruce Bellis Cortina but I don't know about the others.

The yellow/black Mk 1 Cortina is my old Cortina cobra, in the hands of the original owner Jim McComb. The Comaro #17 is Bruce Jenner in the ex Coppins car.
A small side note about the Cortina. Jim told me at the time of purchase that it had the ex Fahey 289 in it, and a photo from the Shell Motor racing yearbook of c68 where Paul is looking at the engine backs this up. However, in another thread, when talking about the Kennedy Capri (which I think is the one shown here), someone spoke of putting that engine into the Capri. Confusing.
That's the ex Fahey Mustang in Rod McElrea's colours #147

Steve Holmes
03-25-2014, 07:24 PM
243782437924380Ok Allan Moffatt and Jim Richards are obvious here but the Camaro I'm not 100% sure but could be John Riley.

Loving all these photos Lindsay, keep 'em coming!

The Camaro #91 is John Riley in the ex-Joe Chamberlain/Dennis Marwood Trans-Am car.

Spgeti
03-25-2014, 08:07 PM
These are great. Farrar and Baker raced these 2 Camaros in the South Island Supercar races. Farrar raced this Camaro in some GTX Races and I think this is the car today that is bronze and has Crown Court sponsorship on it. Bakers car is this the beginning of the Big Brother Camaro ?. I have never seen these photos. Help me if I am wrong.

TonyG
03-25-2014, 08:10 PM
Wow lot of work to change the ex Fahey Mustang back into what it is today.