Random Photos Thread

[bry3500]

1959 Delahaye

[Steve Holmes]

These are awesome Byr ^^. Where do you find this stuff?

[Steve Holmes]

TV Tommy Ivo and his amazing windowed drag car transporter.

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[bry3500]

Sir Vival

[bry3500]

what a beast!

[Grant Sprague]

As I get older [or younger lol ] I just looooove these photos unique they are just so cool thank you for sharing

[bry3500]

As I get older [or younger lol ] I just looooove these photos unique they are just so cool thank you for sharing

cheers Grant - :)

[bry3500]

- Howard Hughes and his H-1 Racer.

[Oldfart]

#258 Smooooooooth

[bry3500]

Boss 429 Lawn Mower!!

[bry3500]

This one comes courtesy of the 'Canterbury Motorsport Pre 1970' Facebook page.
South Island Specials, Ruapuna 1968.

[bry3500]

Another from FB
Alec Birch photos of 'True Chevotion', a street registered!! erm.. dragster built early 1970's by one of the American serviceman posted to Longbank near Blenheim.

[Roger Dowding]

Another from FB
Alec Birch photos of 'True Chevotion', a street registered!! erm.. dragster built early 1970's by one of the American serviceman posted to Longbank near Blenheim.

Bry3500, back in the day 50-70's a race car had to have Registration, you would see cars with the Rego plate attached to the floor inside the car, don't know the reasoning !!

[bry3500]

Bry3500, back in the day 50-70's a race car had to have Registration, you would see cars with the Rego plate attached to the floor inside the car, don't know the reasoning !!

Thanks Roger! Did they have to have headlights as well? :)

[Roger Dowding]

Thanks Roger! Did they have to have headlights as well? :)

That's pretty radical, didn't notice them to start with : would have thought they were too far back, but I guess only way to get at the right height without huge column brackets.

[stubuchanan]

Bry3500, back in the day 50-70's a race car had to have Registration, you would see cars with the Rego plate attached to the floor inside the car, don't know the reasoning !!

I think this has been covered before on this forum, but the annual registration gave you some sort of compulsory third-party insurance cover. I recall the forms having a long list of motor insurance providers on the back, from which you had to choose one. Eventually the insurance lobby had its way and it was scrapped. I'm not sure it was ever compulsory and I don't recall reg plates on speedway cars, but there are plenty of pictures of single-seaters with registration plates in Graham Vercoe's Historic Racing Cars book.

Stu

[Roger Dowding]

I think this has been covered before on this forum, but the annual registration gave you some sort of compulsory third-party insurance cover. I recall the forms having a long list of motor insurance providers on the back, from which you had to choose one. Eventually the insurance lobby had its way and it was scrapped. I'm not sure it was ever compulsory and I don't recall reg plates on speedway cars, but there are plenty of pictures of single-seaters with registration plates in Graham Vercoe's Historic Racing Cars book.

Stu

Stu, sounds right, they dropped CTP as they still have in Australia, think part of the ACC act which provided cover for victims of accidents, the people not the car..

[Ross Hollings]

Race cars were registered E Class A ,which was a farm registration for vehicles ,it was to cover machinery which had to go between farms on public roads. The Mini Max i raced and hillclimbed had such a plate,so this means the race cars were covered when they raced at Renwick,Waimate etc.A form of this registration still exists as far as i know and came across it a few years back when lookinging at a BMW 2002 forsale in Tauranga and this guy had his car registered like that and used it on the road all the time.............not a good idea ,because if he had had an accident he would not have been covered !

[928]

to go along with Ross Holling's post. there was also a daylight WOF that was required. no lights, indicators,parking brake, wipers, windscreens, doors, just basic things to operate the vehicle on the public roads, but only from sunrise to sunset

[Jac Mac]

The 'E' class A thing was not without problems, I remember trying to get it for the OSCA Cortina when I first built it and struck a 'jobsworth' at the Post Office, who insisted that as it was a car & 5000cc I had to pay the going rate equivalent to a new 302 Falcon, that wasn't going to happen on my pay scale, so two days later Mrs Mac went in and registered our brand new 'Ford 5000'... job done!.. BTW the rego was reqd for third party due to most club events run under MANZ being on closed public roads- beach racing, 1/4 miles, hillclimbs etc.
Still silly stuff going on today, I have a tractor with side mount mower that was ex parks & reserves, was on full rego due to operating outside a limited km radius from base, its registered as a caravan... don't ask me how they arrived at that classification!

[Grant Sprague]

What a beaut ........ looks like Wally in the Zepher power black car on the right & our other icon in 77....not sure who the othesr are or were , but all going hard these guys , home made specials etc , about the era of the 30 min production car racing

[Jac Mac]

This one comes courtesy of the 'Canterbury Motorsport Pre 1970' Facebook page.
South Island Specials, Ruapuna 1968.

Front on pole looks like Barry Keen's helmet, probably Begg Twin Cam, outside on front row is the Begg/Humber 80 car ( Dr D Brunton?, Russell Thompson or Colin Bunce?), # 70 is Norm Smith in the Stuart Special and #77 should be Peter Leversedge. Car @ 2 on front row may be Lindsay Tosh in Begg /Daimler. Appears to be another front engine car @ 3 on front row that has beaten everybody else off the line. As Grant mentioned Wally Darrel in black car.

[Grant Sprague]

Woow Jac that is a great recall , as a lad Peter & Wally stood out from the crowd in their specials , know doubt the others were fantastic but too young to appreciate

[Kwaussie]

Appears to be another front engine car @ 3 on front row that has beaten everybody else off the line.
Could the fast starter be 260M Zephyr? maybe the white/cream car on far right at the rear of the grid is the A50 Special with a Wasp and Bumble Bee nearby.

[Oldfart]

What are the 2 very low motorbike powered cars?

[GD66]

One would be Ron Walton's Wasp.
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Ron used to have a tv science show back in the b&w days called "In The Nature Of Things."

[khyndart in CA]

I remember taking a photo of a driver in a race car at Pukekohe that I think was powered by four chainsaw engines.
I do not have the photo and my memory is not that sharp now, I think it was about 1967 - 69.
I think the car may have caught fire somehow.
Can someone verify any of this please ?
Thanks in advance.



(Ken Hyndman )

[GD66]

I recall an experimental circuit kart powered by four McCulloch chainsaw engines (one driving each wheel), with a low flat bodywork painted in Team Cambridge colours so prob 1969, had a rudimentary spoiler and was fearsome quick in corner speed. No idea how old the intrepid pilot lived to be....

[Oldfart]

Does anyone know anything about Trade Me listing #: 998993912 "Historic Single Seater Special" ?

[bry3500]

Does anyone know anything about Trade Me listing #: 998993912 "Historic Single Seater Special" ?

this one

[GD66]

Norton twin probably 650/750cc, with Mikuni carburettors.

[bry3500]

Apparently it was actually street legal. Built by Harry Sisson.

[ERC]

This is the car built for (and paid for) by Jon Pertwee as Dr Who. Built by custom car guy Pete Farries whose workshop (no pun intended...) was just down the road from my house in the UK. Just two mouldings when everyone said it would take far more and eventually road registered as an invalid carriage (3 wheels) - capable of 100mph and virtually impossible to turn over.
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Fibreglass again and my jazz hero Chris Barber in his Elite (85 years young and still getting speeding tickets...). I presented Chris with one of my own paintings of him in the Elite, back in 2004, celebrating 50 years of the band.
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Whilst most had 1/32 scale Scalextric sets, we had a 1/52 scale Wrenn set, which meant we had the ability to design and race some terrific circuits on an 8x4 sheet of ply. I got RSI from spending so many hours each night slot racing! Although Dad owned the most cars (53!) I have all 60 complete with track and spares. it ran on 12v AC or DC initially, though later cars were DC only. AC was faster with a ratchet and pawl motor, but the cars got hot quite quickly. Power was on or off so you freewheeled around the corners.
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[Oldfart]

Yes is Norton, but does anyone know any of the history other than what the advert says? Referring to the "Historic" on post 280

[bry3500]

????

[ERC]

And we thought the Mini Marcos was ugly!!!

[GD66]

The Coventry-Climax Fire Pump Four...
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nothing remarkable about that, except it's fitted with a set of Webers !

[Kwaussie]

Did this BMC creation ever take off?

[bry3500]

lion

[bry3500]

early photo of Jamie Aislabie

[Grant Sprague]

Ha ha he was a magnet to those lol:)

[ElCoyote]

Jan hasn't changed either, still a sweetie

[Steve Holmes]

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread with this great photos.

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[khyndart in CA]

Thanks Steve,
Amazing that a lot of those cars are still entertaining us today.
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(Historic Trans Am field, Sonoma Raceway, June 2017.)


(Ken H )

[khyndart in CA]

Life in Los Olivos, Ca.
While you Kiwis can get away to the race tracks such as Hampton Downs and Manfeild and assemble fields to go racing in front of the crowds, Hyndman has to get away from the interested folks of Los Olivos and go hide out in the fields. Such is life here in the country.
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( Ken Hyndman, Lost in Los Olivos )
Although it is not a bad place to be lost in.
Check the pics at this site;
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1344&bih=723&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=rb0EWoe0McSqjQO1uJbABA&q=los+olivos+ca+photos&oq=los+Olivos+ca+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.2.0l4j0i30k1j0i5i30k1j0i8i30k1j0i24k1l3.45369.48145.0.57708.3.3.0.0.0.0.164.447.0j3.3.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.3.439....0.MtL2ddtq5-0



The "mayor" of Los Olivos at work with his boss serving roasted walnuts at Christmas time. A family tradition.
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KJH

[Bruce302]

That looks like very nice place Ken, I like the sense of community that is evident in those towns.

Bruce.

[Kwaussie]

Ferrari - That's me in the picture - great interview with Louise Collins.

Good movie or DVD coming up to watch!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/03/1957-mille-miglia-ferrari-louise-king-peter-collins

[khyndart in CA]

When I first arrived in England in Oct. 1972 I went to the first race meet I could which was at Oulton Park in Cheshire. As I had been an Escort owner in NZ I was especially interested in the "Broadspeed Team " and wandered into their paddock area to inquire about possible employment but they wisely turned me away which led me next to the F2 McLaren Team lads and they were much more encouraging. I recently saw this photo and it brought back memories.
Grant Sprague, this one is for you.
1972 Escort at Watkins Glen. 2013.
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"This Escort RS1600 MK-1 was built in 1971-1972 in England by ex-Broadspeed mechanic Carl 'Tivy' Shenton while he was managing Spec Fab at Pershors in Worcestershire, England, and includes an Atlas, six-link rear axle, a ZF five-speed, four-wheel disc brakes and Broadspeed fender flares."

More on this car and the Escort history from Conceptcarz.com;

https://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15472/Ford-Escort-MKI.aspx

(Ken Hyndman )

[Grant Ellwood]

Tivvy Shenton lives locally in southern Virginia, still preps cars in his workshop near Virginia International Raceway.
The Escort was driven by Paul Newman at one stage, now owned and raced by Ross Bremer from Florida.
Ross also runs a Broadspeed Anglia and I competed in the same class as him at the recent annual VIR historic event.

[Steve Holmes]

When I first arrived in England in Oct. 1972 I went to the first race meet I could which was at Oulton Park in Cheshire. As I had been an Escort owner in NZ I was especially interested in the "Broadspeed Team " and wandered into their paddock area to inquire about possible employment but they wisely turned me away which led me next to the F2 McLaren Team lads and they were much more encouraging. I recently saw this photo and it brought back memories.
Grant Sprague, this one is for you.
1972 Escort at Watkins Glen. 2013.
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"This Escort RS1600 MK-1 was built in 1971-1972 in England by ex-Broadspeed mechanic Carl 'Tivy' Shenton while he was managing Spec Fab at Pershors in Worcestershire, England, and includes an Atlas, six-link rear axle, a ZF five-speed, four-wheel disc brakes and Broadspeed fender flares."

More on this car and the Escort history from Conceptcarz.com;

https://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15472/Ford-Escort-MKI.aspx

(Ken Hyndman )

Fabulous little car, Ken.

[Oldfart]

I am looking for any pics of the Millen's Commer Cob/Hillman Husky. Contributions please.

[John McKechnie]

Rhys- I know there is one b/w in my Wide Wheels, give me a bit of time.

[khyndart in CA]

Rhys,
I have followed Rod Millen ever since I took this photo of him by chance as he lined up on the grid at Pukekohe in November 1970 as a young 19 year old in a Hillman Husky "Cob" next to my brother John in his Mini Cooper. It was the start of Rod's racing career and the last race of my brother's. Rod would prove to make any vehicle go fast and he finished third in this event.
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Sorry I did not do a better job of photography. Ken H.

[Oldfart]

Rhys- I know there is one b/w in my Wide Wheels, give me a bit of time.
No rush, it would possibly be useful (hint).
Would a rebuild of that car fit the "Historics"? No I can't afford to do that, just a question.

[Oldfart]

A few names on that entry list that I had forgotten Ken!
I always found it interesting that it was called a Cob by many as the badge clearly shows Hillman, and a Cob was a Commer variant with no side windows, and longer wheelbase. Rivet counter! So interesting details though. Lift off bonnet with what are probably Griffiths Speed Equipment pins, is that an attempt at a splitter on the front :)

[BMCBOY]

Here's a photo taken by Kevin Lancaster of Steve Millen driving the Hillman

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[Ross Hollings]

Speaking off Hillman Husky's [my first car] saw this when we were down at Whanganui a couple of weekends ago at the Caboodle Festival.They had amongst a variety of events a car show in the main street on saturday,this little car was outstanding,the motor i was told is a Simca V8 !5089950900509015090250903
The Citroen is ours !! Sweet aye.602cc and 29hp of pulsating power !!! LOL.

[Spgeti]

Yes it is a cool Husky and it is the Smica V8 which is a Flattie and a Ford V8 60 from what I have been told.

[ERC]

Love that V8 Husky! A lot of neat detail work by the looks of it.

[Spgeti]

Love that V8 Husky! A lot of neat detail work by the looks of it.

It is a work of art Ray and from the outside of it looks totally correct.

[Oldfart]

That car owner is part of the reason we are chasing photos of the Millen car!

[Spgeti]

That car owner is part of the reason we are chasing photos of the Millen car!

Hi Rhys,the Husky owner lives here in Palmy.
On the TRS thread....why where what ...on page 23 is a good photo of the Millen “Cob” with a discription. Fibre doors, bonnet, and rear hatch.
I sent the photo to John but I have no way of putting it up here.

Regards
Bruce

[Rod Grimwood]

One with Anglia is Club Curcuit Puke. photo from Barry Lee i have tried to tidy as it has crease through middle of it. other is at hillclimb.

[Roger Dowding]

One with Anglia is Club Curcuit Puke. photo from Barry Lee i have tried to tidy as it has crease through middle of it. other is at hillclimb.

Rod, looks like the top gate at Cosseys !!

[bry3500]

http://jaguarracing.xf.cz/2009/05/union-jag-hillclimb-special/

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Ross Hollings
Speaking off Hillman Huskys [my first car] saw this when we were down at Whanganui a couple of weekends ago at the Caboodle Festival.They had amongst a variety of events a car show in the main street on saturday,this little car was outstanding,the motor i was told is a Simca V8 !50899509005090150902

Ah, but they missed out on the good one:

]https://s26.postimg.cc/mz5kcyrrd/0518emisulbrochure.jpg

https://s26.postimg.cc/drdbw9sex/0518emisulenginediagram.jpg

https://s26.postimg.cc/snbv3vbjd/0518emisulengineonstand.jpg

https://s26.postimg.cc/e44q2gq49/0518emisulengineonstand2.jpg

With about 140hp instead of 85, that would make it sit up and take notice...

Or break axles.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by Spgeti
.....the Smica V8 which is a Flattie and a Ford V8 60 from what I have been told.

Essentially it was...

The progression from the V8/60 (US production) was that the design was sent to England for production there, bearing in mind 'rated HP' taxation issues. Some minor changes were made in British production then the design went to Ford France.

There a number of other changes were made and it was increased in size by about 100cc. Ford France then sold out to Simca, who continued with it before Chrysler took over and a few years down the track Chrysler sent the tooling to Brazil for their branch there to work with. More improvements took place.

And into the mid-sixties they bought the rights to the ARDUN heads and made a few models with no inlet or exhaust ports in the block and using the ARDUN designed heads. As pictured above.

When Simca took over Ford France there were existing long-term contracts for the supply of trucks to the French military with the regular-sized Ford side-valve V8. Chrysler continued to honour these contracts, so on one side of the Atlantic Chrysler were still building their own side-valve sixes for military use and the other they were building side-valve Ford V8s for military use - both well into the sixties!

[bry3500]

!!

[bry3500]

Diana Dors in her 1949 Saoutchik-bodied Delahaye 175 S,

[bry3500]

Bruce McLaren, Stirling Moss, Tony Brooks, Graham Hill, Jo Bonnier, Wolfgang von Trips. and 1996 world champion Damon Hill.

[ERC]

Diana Dors!.... Way back when I was in the UK Prison Service, her young chauffeur was arrested for something or other and remanded in custody. Imagine our surprise when she turned up to visit him. She was delightful - but I'm sure she didn't turn up in the Delahaye!

Love the other pic of the GP drivers too - all looking so smart in decent suits, collars and ties, polished shoes.

[Ray Bell]

How does one get to see these elusive pics?

They're not visible to me...

[bry3500]

All credit to the photographers

[bry3500]

and some more

[bry3500]

more

[bry3500]

Chris Amon, Bruce McLaren, Ken Miles and Denny Hulme Photo credits: Eric della Faille

[Roger Dowding]

" Daffodils " - Described as " A bittersweet Kiwi love story told with re-imaginings of famous New Zealand songs "
Last night -the Movie on TV1 from 2019 - starring Rose McIver, George Mason, Kimbra and AK2289.
- a 1963 Ford Zephyr 6. The car is owned by John Stokes a Fordophile who has written a Book on Fords in new Zealand a few years ago and is writing another on the Seaview Ford Assembly Plant in Wellington
The Music was good - the storyline OK but the Star was this ;

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As mentioned love these cars, Dad had one when I got my Drivers Licence in August 1965 - he owned it 1963 - 1968 and I was allowed to borrow it for " QSFN " - Queen Street Friday Night - with Merv Smith on Radio 1ZB in town with 3 or 4 or even 5 Mates.
With its Original Plate 1963 - 64 and later its permanent plate 1964 on.

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[Peter M]

The movie was based on a couple from my local district , the lady I went to school with.

[Ray Bell]

https://i.postimg.cc/hvyq1Np6/Daytonacoupe.jpg

[Michael Clark]

Re the photos of Amon, McLaren, Miles and Hulme -

Any indication as to if they were taken before, or after, the race?

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
Tell us what, where and when please.
Ken H

[khyndart in CA]

Re the photos of Amon, McLaren, Miles and Hulme -

Any indication as to if they were taken before, or after, the race?

Michael,
From what I have read and movie scenes etc. that these photos are definitely from before the race in my opinion.
(Ken H.)

[Roger Dowding]

The movie was based on a couple from my local district , the lady I went to school with.

Yep, Peter did hear the mention of Otorohanga " I'll drive you home " offer " but " its over a hour away from the Hamilt(r)on.
My Mums family, had family there in the 1930's she grew up in Hamilton, but used to visit.

Cheers
Roger

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by khyndart
Ray,
Tell us what, where and when please.

Ken, if you scroll back to post 325 (which is a quote from a previous page...) and check the first photo in that post, you'll be looking at this car. Somewhere in that photo.

There were, I understand, seven of them built and there's seven of them in the photo. This one I came across most unexpectedly.

I was driving from Brno to Mulhous in 2016 and I came upon this little rig in Lichtenstein (or it might have been Switzerland). I had time to get the camera up and switched on and get this one shot before it took an exit.

It was a pretty good day, really. I wanted to look at the Bremgarten circuit and set the GPS from Bremgarten not knowing there were two towns with that name in Switzerland. When I got to the wrong one (and still didn't know it) I saw a workshop with a motor sporting kind of name on it and so I went in there to ask directions to the circuit.

The owner of the place showed me around some of his cars...

https://i.postimg.cc/CL9LDmr9/1218fr16tripCaprezSteyr.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/6qT9RW1K/1218fr16tripCaprezF3000.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/m2Pgt0jQ/1218fr16tripCaprezLola.jpg

His name is Rudi Caprez, he had pics of other cars he raced too. Including a pretty quick looking thing he drove in the Targa Florio. No wonder he could afford a smile...

https://i.postimg.cc/dQH0Qq2s/1218fr16tripCaprezandpics.jpg

Sadly, when I got to Bern I found there was so little left of the old Bremgarten circuit it wasn't worth the effort. And the effort was made harder than it should have been because nobody seemed to know what I was talking about. I struck the same problem at Rouen a couple of weeks later.

Anyway, I hope that answers your question, Ken. And that these photos are 'random' enough for this thread.

[khyndart in CA]

Thanks for that answer Ray,
Going to the wrong town certainly had surprising results and you left enough crumbs to know the rest of the story.
Ken

[Ray Bell]

I think Rudi's business was 'Grand Prix Garage' or similar...

Which is why I went in there. His wife was there but about to go shopping, I started asking questions in English and she hung around for a while because she's much, much better than Rudi in English. Very helpful.

It was a nice interlude the day after driving around the 19km Brno circuit and the day before visiting the Schlumpf Museum.

[Roger Dowding]

Seeing the " Mitsuoka Viewt " on ERC's thread, and as it doesn't really fit there
Thought the belong here
- It / They are not even VCC Eligible as still a youngster at only 23 years old.

The Nigel Watts photo of the " Jaguar " styled car was first introduced in 1993. so is 28 years old.

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Allan's image of a Lancia Aprilia inspired Viewt.

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This seems to be the most common after the Jaguar ! - according to web photos.

Mitsuoka is an independent Car Maker according to Wikipaedia -
" Mitsuoka Viewt
The Mitsuoka Viewt is a modification of the Nissan March/Micra sold by the Japanese automaker Mitsuoka, intended to resemble the 1963 Jaguar Mark 2. The line was launched in January 1993 and over the course of its production over 12,000 have been sold.
Body style: 4-door sedan "

They take existing cars and restyle them, some with minor changes like the above two, but also cars like this. [ website images ]

The Himiko - not known what this is based on
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MX5 based Rock Star convertible
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Micro - car with 1930's/ 40's styling
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All small photos which is perhaps what they deserve.

[bry3500]

who?what?where?

[Roger Dowding]

who?what?where?

Who - Do not know,
What - looks like Morris Minor highlight front mudguards with a TR2 style body and on what seem to be 1951-56 plates and Ford 10 wheels so presume based on a Ford 10 - have seen another photo of it - must go and look for it !!
Where - possibly Muriwai for the Beach Races

Cheers Bry3500

[bry3500]

Thanks Roger - I have no idea :)

[bry3500]

Senna on the ceiling

[Ray Bell]

$6,000?

The Chrysler Hemi and, presumably, 18-spline A833 would be worth a lot more than that now.