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Oldfart
09-30-2021, 08:12 PM
There were difficulties that day with entries not having been put on line, but MyLaps was working during the day. I didn't have a list of entries to be able to call batches to the assembly area pre start. More difficult than usually, but as they say, "All in the best possible taste" and everybody got more runs than usual, all 87 of them! I got a cheer for harrying them!
Saturday
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Duncan Ricketts with ERA GP1
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The 2021 Hall & Hall BRM V16.
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The Hot Rod parade kicked off the track proceedings each day.
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Sunday
At most hotels around the Goodwood area, there are usually cars of interest and this Lagonda was snapped early as I set off for the final day.
Sunday, all track pics are from races (or parades), though one or two may have been taken on the formation lap. My philosophy is that with classic racing, you take a pic when you can which is why if I were to choose just one day to attend, it would be Friday.
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One of my favourites - the Kieft-Climax V8.
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FJ Terrier went well.
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Somewhat out of sequence, but on the Tuesday prior to Goodwood, one of custodians, or members of the Bourne Historical Society, opened up the 'Baldock Mill' museum just for me, so that I could browse the 'Raymond Mays' room. This was very much appreciated so not only did I purchase a couple of ERA stickers and a book, and make a donation, but I also presented them with an original print of Dad's, showing Raymond Mays, Peter Berthon and Humphrey Cook in the paddock at Donington.
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I spent an enjoyable time in there and suffice to say, loads of memorabilia, photographs, trophies etc - and a BRM V16 soundtrack...
Monday September 20th. After the 8:30am pre-departure covid test in Bournemouth, that relieved my credit card of 189GBP to get a same day result, I picked up my youngest brother and we headed off to the Haynes Museum - for my third visit. I was pleased to see that several exhibits had been shuffled around since my previous visits and if nothing else, makes photographs slightly different even if the subject matter is the same.
Since the closure of the Donington Racing Car Museum late 2018, the whereabouts of many of the exhibits isn't known - well not to me anyway, but part of the extensive Williams F1 collection has found a home here.
The late John Haynes raced this Elva Courier.
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There are some superb scale models on display. Chaindrive would be most impressed.
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One of just 2 prototype Rover station wagons/estates. The other may be at Gaydon. Looks as though the load carrying capacity is way, way better than our SUV.
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Back to Curborough - and Rhys, your assistance is required!
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Ambergate - Austins
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Caister #2
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Doesn't this make you weep?
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Goodwood Thursday evening #2
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In the Bonham's sale compound.
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Oldfart
10-05-2021, 07:51 AM
Curborough single seaters.
87 is a Terrapin, this one originally Mini powered, now Ford 1100 non crossflow. Ray, I thought you might have snapped the Lotus 23!
89 is a Heaton Rudd 1600 Ford
71 Blue and black car is a Jedi Mk4 998 cc
72 Red and black car, OMS Hornet 1070cc
Thanks Rhys. Yes I snapped the Lotus 23... Only putting up 4 or 5 at a time.
Goodwood Friday (Qualifying)
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I noticed this MG had an alternator, disc brakes and Minilite wheels. No doubt in NZ it wouldn't even have been allowed to run... More's the pity.
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Brendon Hartley shared this Mini but it was one of the slowest in the field and no matter how good the driver, you can't overcome the lack of power in such a closely fought class. I thought that maybe Brendon might have scored a drive in one or two of the other classes. Maybe no-one knew he'd be available?
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I have almost finished the cropping and now also sorting into the various race groups - and deleting duplicates (there are loads...).
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Richmond Trophy - paddock, qualifying (dry) and race (wet) pics
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One of the busiest drivers was Jochen Mass
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Sadler-Chevrolet
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The always spectacular Jaguar.
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Kiwi connections
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I wanted to revisit Caister for photographs, as there are so many cars displayed that I'd never seen elsewhere and are therefore valid additions to my ever expanding library. Just as an example, these five pics are all American steam cars. Probably not top of my list in terms of interest, but some on here may appreciate them.
White Steamer
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Stanley Steamer
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Locomobile
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A S A C Steamer
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Doble E10
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Skipping around a wee bit now, as i don't want to delay the final filing.
AC
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Some less well known names - so I have labelled them...
Gilbern
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Condor FJ
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Mitter DKW FJ
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Invicta
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Brabham BRM - in the BRM parade
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Ant Anstead riding shotgun I think. Part of the Stirling Moss parade
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Stoewer
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McKee Chevrolet
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Faranda FJ
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Bitter
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BRM engines
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P25 4
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H16
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V12
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Yet another car with a Scottish number plate.
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Not seen on track in the Moss or BRM parades - unfortunately - on Friday or Saturday anyway.
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Sir Paul Smith, Nottingham fashion guru, special edition Mini.
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The winning Mini - Nick Swift/Andrew Jordan. I think the weird paint scheme was possibly a kid's competition winner's idea. The wing was removed for the race!
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Oldfart
10-22-2021, 12:53 PM
NZ made seat in the Jordan car too :)
NZ made seat in the Jordan car too :)
Also in the Jordan Austin A40.
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Second place behind the Ford Thunderbird Saturday.
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Buick-McLaughlin
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Fiat
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Delahaye
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Ginetta
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Singer's take on the Chrysler Airflow...
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Cooper Jaguar
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Derek Bell did some shopping!
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Note the bonnet colour...
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The bonnet flew up in practice, so they 'borrowed' the one from the BMW display car.
Roger Dowding
10-26-2021, 04:47 AM
Ray, never seen a BMW 700 - [ well may have in Europe in 1982 but don't remember ] Nice little car.
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Dolphin FJ
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I'm not a huge fan of two wheelers, but I know some on here are, so no apologies for posting a few, taken on this last trip. The slightly more unusual.
The Flying Millward - Google it!
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Socovel Electric!
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Henderson
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Panther
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Yet another with Scottish plates.
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From the Stirling Moss parade, hence no race number.
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* #1 - Jensen pic replaced with the Austin. I'd posted it earlier...
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Richard Attwood - yet another car with a Scottish registration.
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Not many cars had rollover hoops.
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Oldfart
10-29-2021, 02:48 PM
The Lotus 23 b (?) is now for sale, a mere £79k. I know it's a 23, but is it a b?
No idea Rhys!
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Goodwood stands had several 'specials' and replicas and I merely snapped as I walked past, so some may be original cars and some may well be recreations or replicas. This I believe is a Bentley based special.
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Tec Mec
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Allan
10-30-2021, 01:16 AM
So what was the TecMec (Corvette engined) that Rod Coppins entered the 1962 and 1963 NZIGP with but did not qualify for either race?
Milan Fistonic
10-30-2021, 02:32 AM
So what was the TecMec (Corvette engined) that Rod Coppins entered the 1962 and 1963 NZIGP with but did not qualify for either race?
This is from Terry Collier's book on the NZ Maseratis.
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Allan
10-30-2021, 03:49 AM
Thanks for that Milan. On another note has anyone ever sorted out the true 250F chassis number saga?
Milan Fistonic
10-30-2021, 05:09 AM
Thanks for that Milan. On another note has anyone ever sorted out the true 250F chassis number saga?
If you can find a copy of this book, you will have what is almost certainly the best explanation of the 250F chassis number saga.
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Roger Dowding
10-30-2021, 08:14 AM
If you can find a copy of this book, you will have what is almost certainly the best explanation of the 250F chassis number saga.
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Milan, thanks, and I was wandering through TRS [ some of the archive - old stuff ] this evening and came across a thread from 2011 with Nigel Watts photos on the Maserati 250F a couple of photos with Chris Amon driving one,in more recent years, not in period.
Thread number #188 this one " http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?188-Ex-Ross-Jensen-Maserati-250F "
Cheers Guys,
Roger
RIP David McKinney, RIP Chris Amon, and RIP Ross Jensen.
One of the reasons I was determined to get to Goodwood this year, was the celebration of BRM's 70 years. Dad was fiercely patriotic and backed ERA before the war and BRM after, and I suppose I inherited my love of both from him. Being named after Raymond Mays may also have had a lot to do with it.
The BRM parade included several cars with BRM engines in addition to examples of most models including the Hall & Hall 2021 BRM V16.
The fearsome 8 litre BRM P154 sports restored by the Hepworths.
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Ex Siffert Cooper BRM
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Lotus 43 BRM H16
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I have slowed a bit, despite a whole pile ready for uploading to TRS.
I have elected to put some photographs from my collection up for sale via the Alamy website, in the hope that I may supplement my pension! I don't expect to get rich and with almost 300 million pics offered for sale on Alamy, even a few pounds now and again helps.
It is quite a time consuming process and they have to pass Alamy's rigid QC system and be large enough (many of my older digital pics fail on that score), before being offered for sale. Rest assured that I'm not deserting TRS, but uploaded photographs on here are relatively small images.
Choosing which photographs to upload is something I'm working through, as I have to try and anticipate which photographs are saleable as opposed to ones I like.
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I know that to many, the Allegro was a laughing stock, but having owned two or three, I think that their well publicised failures overlook the positives. The Allegro Estate looks as though it was designed, not just a bit of tin and a door bolted on the back, like so many others.
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Loads of Jaguars at Goodwood, on and off track.
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Kevin Hirst
11-07-2021, 08:08 PM
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I know that to many, the Allegro was a laughing stock, but having owned two or three, I think that their well publicised failures overlook the positives. The Allegro Estate looks as though it was designed, not just a bit of tin and a door bolted on the back, like so many others.
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Loads of Jaguars at Goodwood, on and off track.
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Good to see another locost, same colour as our's
Well spotted! Seems I spelt it wrongly though. Locost, not Lo Cost.
Uploading to Alamy has been a bit of a mission with one or two rejected as being too small, and one batch rejected because one wasn't as sharp as it could have been. I now know that I have to check them at 100% before uploading... Luckily the bazooka lens pics pass the size criteria but most pics taken with the earlier DSLR camera won't pass.
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Roger Dowding
11-08-2021, 05:42 AM
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I know that to many, the Allegro was a laughing stock, but having owned two or three, I think that their well publicised failures overlook the positives. The Allegro Estate looks as though it was designed, not just a bit of tin and a door bolted on the back, like so many others.
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Loads of Jaguars at Goodwood, on and off track.
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Great set of Photos,
Kev's Locost,
my Dad's Austin (A'ggro) Allegro [ he had a two tone Austin with the roof being a textured vinyl ] brought brand new from Seabrook Fowlds,
then my favourite Corvette, the 1961-62, last of the C1's with the stingray style tail.
finally the E-type .. The Corvette came out as an American answer to the XK120 .. then William Lyons came up with the " E ".
Thanks Ray
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Peugeot #1
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Peugeot #2
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Richard Attwood was another driver who had a busy weekend.
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Just a comment guys, but easy enough to delete the irrelevent attachments when quoting a previous post.
Unless there is a good reason to show a specific pic again, it merely makes posts look repetitive.
Do we really need to see the same pics again and again? Easy enough just to refer to the post #?
* It isn't too late to go back and delete the irrelevant!
Milan Fistonic
11-09-2021, 11:11 AM
Good advice Ray. I've been meaning to bring up that matter.
If you need to refer to one particular image it is easy to delete the others in the post.
Oldfart
11-09-2021, 09:25 PM
Thanks for saying that Ray, it has annoyed me for a long time.
Kevin Hirst
11-10-2021, 07:29 PM
Good advice Ray. I've been meaning to bring up that matter.
If you need to refer to one particular image it is easy to delete the others in the post.
Sorry, did not know I could do that, would somebody please tell me how so I do not do it again, cheer's
When you hit 'reply with quote' the whole of the reply will be included, including the pics - which are 'attachments'.
The way the HTML (hot metal mark up language) system works isn't too difficult, compared to most computer languages) but everything in the reply is between quote tags.
ie [QUOTE ] Blah blah blah - close the quote with a back slash [/QUOTE ]
The same logic then applies to each of the pics within those quote tags.
[ATTACH=CONFIG ]554789[/ATTACH ]
[ATTACH=CONFIG ]554790[/ATTACH ]
and so on.
To delete any part of the post you are quoting, simply delete BETWEEN THE TAGS.
So as above, you can delete [ATTACH=CONFIG ]554789 [/ATTACH ] which will then leave picture 2.
In days past, to create a webpage, you had to create it, by typing up ALL the tags from scratch, before software came along and did it for you.
You may have noticed that when I post, the pics are usually centralised. That is achieved by using another HTML tag.
At the point at which you want it centralised:
[CENTER ] (without the space of course) and when you get to the end, you need to close the instruction with the backslash
[/CENTER ]
There you go, HTML 101.
Oldfart
11-11-2021, 10:11 AM
Kev you are forgiven, you build cars and motors :)
Roger Dowding
11-13-2021, 03:19 AM
OOps my bad,
Have deleted my post, [with your post ] now you can rest easy.
All good.
Minerva
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Attila - with a true spanner man....
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Triumph Dolomite
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Sadly, the Austin didn't finish the race. Love that car!
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La Buire
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Cooper-Jaguar
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The Ant Anstead project '184' that was the subject of an excellent TV series.
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FJ Scorpion
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That amazing Kieft V8 Coventry Climax engine.
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Benz
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Lotus BRM
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MG model range over the years is just so huge, that I sometime struggle to file them correctly. This is a 14/28.
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MG K3 being hassled by 'The Owlet' which made me grin every time I heard it approaching then an even wider grin watching it being thrown around by Patrick Blakeney-Edwards, for my money, the star driver of the whole meeting. TV coverage never did this car/driver combination justice, even in the wet.
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Oldfart
11-24-2021, 09:29 PM
Owlet and each of those who drive it are very entertaining!
Nick Swift of Mini fame shared the car in the race, and yes, he's always entertaining too!
The car very nearly got involved in a crunch on the last lap, with Nick Swift at the wheel, as PBE was doing double duty racing another Frazer Nash - #9 in the same race:
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One of the many attractions of Goodwood is the number and variety of stalls.
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Not everything is pure classic either. MGB with electric power.
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Nike FJ
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Roger Dowding
11-28-2021, 05:32 AM
Good to see the Derek Drinkwater Le Mans Cadillac replica of the 1950 Cunningham entry called " Petit Pataud " ! He also has built a replica of " Le Monstre " the 1950 Cadillac chassis with the Grumman aluminium body - one ugly car IMHO !, but I like it.
Oldfart
11-28-2021, 09:39 AM
Number 77 A40 above is one of the immaculately Jordan prepared cars. The other grey one looked rather second hand in the rear after Goodwood. I love going to their facility to deliver the seats (NZ made) which they insist on in all their cars, customer or their own. The grey car is now pristine again.
As above! St Mary's Trophy race - day 1. Presumably the other Jordan car?
Racetech seats seem to have a worldwide following - I even have them in the Magnette, and as Chicane and Racetech work well together, I had the covers embroidered by Chicane before the seats were covered.
Before
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...after
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Haynes Museum
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RiP Frank Williams, so appropriate to use today's post in this way.
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Can someone please confirm what model of Riley? According to Carjam, this number-plate has never been issued!
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So sad to see this....
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So good to see this... The 2021 Hall & Hall continuation
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Oldfart
12-03-2021, 12:36 AM
Is the H16 at Beaulieu Ray?
Is the H16 at Beaulieu Ray?
That is at Caister Castle museum. They also have the H16 engine that powered Jim Clark's Lotus to the only H16 win. The BRM fraternity quite rightly, aren't happy that these exhibits are simply deteriorating but the previous owner of the museum refused to sell them, or the Lotus. As there are only 3 single seaters in the museum, (the other is a Cooper Mk5) I agree. They need to go to a better home, yet the rest of the Caister Museum is excellent and still expanding.
Does anyone know anything about this F5000 Lola, snapped in the paddock at the Ganley Festival 2015? It appears to have a Swedish flag on it.
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Still filing the pics I took back in September!
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Moss & Lawson trials special
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Willment BRM
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Apparently this car carried David Coulthard in the driver parade at an Australian Grand Prix.
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Cooper from the Stirling Moss tribute
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In period, I was never much of a fan of Vauxhalls.
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...but a huge fan of the TR3. Ironically, I've never owned a Triumph.
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One for Paul McCarthy
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Cooper Alta
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Empire
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The Riley post.
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Another car with a Nottingham rego
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ERA engines were developed from the 6 cylinder Riley engine.
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Cegga Ferrari
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Real Ferraris
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Fake Ferrari - BMW Z3 based. Note the BRDC badge, so someone isn't too worried about it.
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For some strange reason, some of the pics won't upload. Ho hum.
Only yesterday, did I manage to complete the filing of the pics I took whilst away. All now safely copied to a separate hard drive. Since hooking up to Alamy, I have become far more ruthless in deleting those, that when viewed at 100%, aren't sharp enough. Despite an auto focus lens, the combination of shutter speed, aperture and focus accuracy, can sometimes be less than perfect. There again, with professional quality lenses and cameras costing many times what I paid, I can't complain. Just note that the static shots are usually taken with a modest pocket Canon.
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Star
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Seems so long ago already, but getting there early meant no traffic queues at all. Goodwood of course.
Towards the end of the day - and the following days, the badly swollen ankle was taking its toll. This may well turn out to be my last 3 day visit, but I wouldn't totally rule that out. My advice to anyone more interested in the cars than the actual races, but with limited time or cash would be to visit on the Friday. You can still go to 'Over the Road' on the Thursday evening for free as long as you have any day ticket.
Many many thanks to Tim Hill of HRC for his assistance - again.
7:25AM Friday September 17th.
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By 8:38am and suitably fortified with a bacon & egg butty and a coffee, crossing the track across the new bridge at the entry to Madgwick and plenty of space to pick a (temporary) viewing spot. As I had a grandstand pass, I opted to spend the first couple of sessions in the Madgwick exit stand.
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Each day starts with one of several parades. This year, the hot rods.
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Then later, one of the tribute parades. As in 2009, Stirling Moss.
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One of my motivations this year was the BRM parade - and I wasn't disappointed.
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Roger Dowding
01-09-2022, 05:26 AM
ERC, that ALTA, looks like the NZer Jim Bennett's FURI Impulse in style .. Nice car.
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Marino Franchitti was another busy driver
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Allan
01-12-2022, 07:55 PM
What ever happened to your MG Magnette Ray?
The Magnette has been road legal since 2015 - but unfinished! Life seems to keep getting in the way. I have had to do a fair bit on the house. Just coming up to having clocked 1000kms - which is not a lot. Currently needing a WoF which I'll get sorted next week.
A few pics.
After stripping, December 2004.
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Work in progress. Itching to add the woodrim steering wheel, but that will be one of the last things to do. This was back in 2011.
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I won't be towing the Marcos again as the weight of the Magnette is about the same as the Marcos without the trailer!
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January 2021 - at the monthly Caffeine & Classics. Still working on the fibreglass bonnet.
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One of the (many) non-essential jobs on the list is to modify the front bumpers to extend them rearwards, as it will look better. I intend to get the (fibreglass) bumpers chrome wrapped.
Some work has recently been done on the (fibreglass) boot lid and an ex Riley Elf locking latch fitted. Neither boot nor bonnet will be painted until I'm totally satisfied with the fit and finish.
The radiator grille surround is a temporary one, as I have another built up with stainless mesh. Still debating as to whether or not to leave that as is, or spray the mesh black. Any comments on that?
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One advantage of attending Friday is that as with any classic meeting, there is always a percentage that don't make it to race day, so there are more cars to photograph. Sadly, this Alvis special was one that didn't make it.
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Milan Fistonic
01-14-2022, 10:13 PM
YP 4042 was parked next to that same fence in 2019. Must have a reserved parking space.
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Well spotted Milan! One of several regulars at Goodwood.
I probably need to post twice a day as there are still loads in the 2021 UK pile (500!), so regulars, just check.
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Haynes at Sparkford
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Another with a Scottish registration
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Will electric powered single seaters ever emulate the love we have for older race cars? Will there be a sell out 3 day race meeting in 60 year's time, with just electric cars?
BRMS and ERAs. Automotive Bliss!
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Oldfart
01-17-2022, 09:55 PM
The cars from Bourne! Going much better than they did 60 + years ago :)
True. Amazing how ERA R5B (Remus) was often a race winner a few years ago, and also the ex Raymond Mays R4D (pic 2 above), but the light green R3A seems to be one to beat.
More from Bourne...
Remus (R5B)
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From Bourne to Coventry...
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Marino Franchitti driving father-in-law's (Nick Mason) A35
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Patrick Blakeney-Edwards - again.
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Bits of fibreglass
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That Franchitti fella again
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Duncan Ricketts of ERA fame was supposed to be co-driver in this Maserati, but I think it failed in practice before Duncan even had a drive.
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Oldfart
01-26-2022, 07:53 AM
What's the on track wreckage in the pic of the DB5 ? at the top of the last post?
See post #4106 Rhys. Made a real mess of the Jag.
Running wide at Madgwick exit and clouted the bank. It was only lap 2 of practice. Red flagged.
Delayed proceedings for about half an hour or so as they had to rebuild the tyre wall. Always sad to see cars damaged.
Richard Hammond
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Those 'aerial shots' at Goodwood, around Woodcote and the chicane, weren't from a drone or a helicopter, but from a cameraman with a real head for heights. Photograph doesn't do it justice
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Faranda FJ
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Another car with a Scottish number-plate. I never was a fan of Vauxhalls, but some love them.
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Roger Dowding
01-31-2022, 05:18 AM
The Vauxhall " Victor " - a very unusual version of the original " Victor " - never seen one like that ERC !!
Oldfart
01-31-2022, 09:37 PM
The Vauxhall " Victor " - a very unusual version of the original " Victor " - never seen one like that ERC !!
They were a truly awful car!
ERA R4D - the ex Raymond Mays car. Along with 'Remus', the best known of all 17 ERA's built.
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Brabham BRM from the BRM parade.
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Just for a Goodwood/UK break, Caffeine and Classics, back in July
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More usually seen pedalling an immaculate Escort or other race saloon or sports car, Paul's immaculate Cord.
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A superb model at Haynes Sparkford museum
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I always liked the earlier Bristols, but the later ones did nothing for me.
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The Radford Lotus 62. Lotus only made two 62's, one of which was in Gold Leaf colours and the other bought by Jazz man Chris Barber and painted in his usual pale lime green, driven by Dave "Run Baby Run" Brodie.
Brodie tells the story of the night before the Nurburgring race, where Chris amazed him by accurately calculating the 150mph top speed. He took the tyre circumference, axle/dif ratio and top engine revs in top gear and came up with the figure - in his head!
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The MG YB has a Nottingham registration and I bet the original owner when he bought it, had no idea that one day, it would be racing at a prestigious Goodwood race meeting!
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BMW
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BMW Z3 underpinnings
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Gordon Keeble - still my dream car
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Herbert
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Oldfart
02-04-2022, 09:17 AM
Ray, do you have any more detail on the mid engine BMW?
Ray, do you have any more detail on the mid engine BMW?
1960 BMW 700 RS - I think!
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GregT
02-07-2022, 10:45 PM
Any details on the last two Ferrari single-seaters ? Both could potentially have Kiwi history.
Thanks
All I can do is quote the programme:
#44 Entrant/driver Alexander Boswell 1952 Ferrari 500/625A 2996cc
#38 Entrant/driver Richard Wilson 1960 Ferrari 246 Dino 2417cc
Sorry, I know no more than that. Maybe a Google search for the driver/car may throw up more info?
GregT
02-08-2022, 06:01 AM
To judge by chassis nos elsewhere on the web, the Dino is the replica - not the ex Pat Hoare car.
The 500/625 is the ex Peter Whitehead car - which I saw win the 56 Lady Wigram trophy. My first Wigram.
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Martin Brundle
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Note the windscreens. Rowan Atkinson's car on the right has a one piece screen
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Friday:
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Saturday:
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Sunday:
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Sadly, another from the Whitsun Trophy practice, reinforcing my comment that you will see far more cars on track Friday than any other day, even allowing for more track sessions.
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One of my absolute favourite categories - 50's sports or sports racing cars. Tojeiro Jaguar
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Roger Dowding
02-15-2022, 01:48 AM
Great photo as always ERC,
Interested in this group photo of " Production Saloons " at Goodwood - all from the late 1950's early 1960's and appear not to have Roll Cages.
Allan Dick was recently lamenting that these cars in New Zealand, are not seen without all the " modern " safety features.
Would be interested to know the Rules for the class of racing.
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Oldfart
02-16-2022, 11:14 AM
Roger, you ask about the rules for the saloons. As I now supply several of them with product I asked that a while back. There is no simple answer, it depends on which events you want to run.
FIA rules for example on an A40 has to run lever arm rear shocks as that's what they had. Goodwood cars are allowed more latitude. Some series specify the tyre, others only the size. A number of my clients have multiple cars so that they can participate in several categories.
I can see cages in all those cars, just not the jungle gym that MSNZ specifies in their need to be better than what the rest of the world under FIA accepts. Diagonal is visible n both the A35 and Zephyr.
High back seats are visible too. Driver safety is a very important thing in this part of the world.
Thanks Rhys. I have always maintained that safety is the responsibility of the driver, so MSNZ's attitude isn't conducive to getting more cars on track. Applies also to rules regarding protective clothing.
Those pics from the Pre 1958 St Mary's Trophy saloons means a great variety of cars and the occasional roll over hasn't to the best of my knowledge, ever resulted in a serious injury, with or without a cage. The cars are steel bodied, not space frames with fibreglass panels, but MSNZ doesn't accept that as a valid reason for a different requirement for a cage. Yet, ironically, you can still run a standard car in NZ without a cage, regardless of its performance, but modify even an A35, and the rules change.
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Rare AC Barchetta
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Awkward design features - especially the rear?
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Roger Dowding
02-17-2022, 08:13 AM
Roger, you ask about the rules for the saloons. As I now supply several of them with product I asked that a while back. There is no simple answer, it depends on which events you want to run.
FIA rules for example on an A40 has to run lever arm rear shocks as that's what they had. Goodwood cars are allowed more latitude. Some series specify the tyre, others only the size. A number of my clients have multiple cars so that they can participate in several categories.
I can see cages in all those cars, just not the jungle gym that MSNZ specifies in their need to be better than what the rest of the world under FIA accepts. Diagonal is visible n both the A35 and Zephyr.
High back seats are visible too. Driver safety is a very important thing in this part of the world.
" Those pics from the Pre 1958 St Mary's Trophy saloons means a great variety of cars and the occasional roll over hasn't to the best of my knowledge, ever resulted in a serious injury, with or without a cage. The cars are steel bodied, not space frames with fibreglass panels, but MSNZ doesn't accept that as a valid reason for a different requirement for a cage. Yet, ironically, you can still run a standard car in NZ without a cage, regardless of its performance, but modify even an A35, and the rules change.
"
Thanks, Rhys and Ray,
I couldn't pick up the roll bars, and as said probably used to the " extreme " Cages applied to Sports Cars in the USA and in New Zealand.
" Yet, ironically, you can still run a standard car in NZ without a cage,"
I am out of touch.
Appreciate the information.
Thanks again
Roger
PS ERC, the 100S photo - with another Healey " 3000 " and an MGB in the background - RWD323 is well known, must go and look it up.
" Borrowing the photo.
Cheers
R
Seems that there are no more 'Caffeine & Classics' for Smales Farm. Shame. One of the best ever monthly events and usually a huge turnout. Conveniently close just ten minutes from home. Many thanks to Protecta Insurance though. A golden opportunity for someone else to pick it up?
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Major Arthur Mallock would be so proud - Ray Mallock. For those of us old enough to remember Formula Junior in period, the Mallock always looked a bit out of place amongst the more traditional racing car offerings from Lola, Cooper, Lotus and the Italian makes.
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The Alex Buncombe/Jensen Button Cobra. Entrant: Racing Snakes...
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Yet another Whitsun Trophy car needing some assistance.
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Richard Attwood
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Should really be at Pukekohe today, but the restrictions under our current setting didn't make it an attractive proposition
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GregT
02-27-2022, 03:40 AM
Saw an early Porsche coupe on the road yesterday. First one seen for over 20 years. When we lived in ChCh a neighbour had a TD and a early Porsche walled in under theur haouse. The quakes brought them out.
How appropriate that the P25 won on the Sunday morning, wearing 25.
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Without digging into older pics that I haven't shown before, this is the last from Caffeine & Classics at Smales Farm.
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Kiwi Connections
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Still a load of Goodwood's to post, but also catching up on a bit of negative scanning.
Back to 1972 & 1973
Curborough Sprint
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Silverstone Sprint
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Mallory Park
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Silverstone GP meeting 1973. The original XJ13 being carefully unloaded from the trailer.
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Back in 1973 again
The annual Racing Car Show at Olympia was a must attend event for me for several years.
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Fancy firing up a recent, almost current, 3 litre F1 BRM just for the 900 yard Curborough sprint course. John McCartney.
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One for Ken!
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I bought this hot Cooper S about September/October but couldn't sell the 998cc Cooper behind, so I reluctantly sold it back to the previous owner. That Cooper S gave more smiles per mile than any other car I have ever owned, even though I only owned it for a couple of months. The Cooper had a clubman front grafted on after a season 1 ding at Silverstone in 1971.
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khyndart in CA
03-13-2022, 09:55 AM
Thanks Ray for another trip down memory lane. That particular Race Car Show at Olympia in 1973 was also visited by Nigel Watts and myself.
I remember that XJ 13 now doing demonstration laps during the lunch break at Silverstone at the 1973 British GP.
Where was the Trojan T101 captured ? That car was the last race winner built by Trojan Racing.
As I have mentioned before, they never had any success after I left in Dec. 1973 !
But seriously, I do appreciate you posting these.
Cheers, Ken H
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The Trojan was July 8th 1973 at Mallory Park Ken.
I do have a (poor) pic of the XJ13 doing the demo laps. Not good enough to put on here.
The Racing Car Show was my annual opportunity to spend more than I could afford at the 'Chater & Scott' book stall. (Cash was king back then - no credit cards for youngsters). I still have the programmes. Back then, I had no flash for the camera but one year I borrowed a friend's Rolleiflex and flash (bulbs of course).
I used to stay at BP House (Baden Powell, not British Petroleum) on the corner of Queens Gate Mews, Kensington. They had a very good cafeteria and accommodation for Scouts was quite cheap. Getting around London was such a doddle with the underground and an A -Z.
Queens Gate Mews is home to at least one classic car specialist.
Again:
Silverstone sprints 1972. Ian Richardson's McLaren (not Ian standing by it!). Ian was the builder of the Super Saloon Chevvy Corvair
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1973 Racing Car Show
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Mallory again - Graham McRae
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Secretary's copy
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Posted previously
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GregT
03-16-2022, 02:54 AM
Tell me that's not Guy Martin hands on hips, back to the yellow Shellsport Lola.
it is not guy martin next to the lola. he is not old enough. good laugh at that, thanks.
If it was Guy Martin, he is looking pretty good now for a 70 year old - and a very brave pensioner...
Under the bonnets
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For my money, one of the stars of the meeting, Patrick Blakeney-Edwards. He also drove 'Owlet' in the same two driver race!
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Same car (#4185) but second driver. (See post #4205) Should have been Rowan Atkinson, as the second driver in the programme, qualifying. It is in fact Duncan Pittaway. (Thanks Oldfart.)
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AC-Bristol Monoposto
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Oldfart
03-22-2022, 11:02 PM
That helmet in post 4203 I would hazard a guess as Duncan Pittaway.
I wondered about that too, as it didn't look like Rowan Atkinson in either photograph. Must see if I can find the results.
Later: Thanks Rhys. I was going by the race programme, but it is indeed Duncan Pittaway, who like PBE was also doing double duty. Earlier post has been edited.
Oldfart
03-23-2022, 04:42 PM
I have been looking at the lead car in post 4201 that you have as a Maserati. The badge on the front is not a Maserati. I think I know what it is, but DVLA shows it as an "Alton Sports, 1958 3781 cc" which wasn't what I thought.
Correct again Rhys! Thanks. I must admit I had made a mental note to check that one, but the mental capacity must be fading. I suppose that wading through several thousand pics, it was inevitable that one or two would end up wrongly filed. Should have gone to Spec Savers.
Here we are with it correctly labelled.
Alton-Jaguar Sports. Love this era of sports cars or sports racing cars and when so many individuals managed to build their own.
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Oldfart
03-24-2022, 09:27 AM
Only because I was curious Ray! The body on the Alton looks very like a Mistral and the badge on the front very like a Buckler one!
The badge is in fact 'Jaguar'! I think it is a fair bit bigger than a Mistral, but agree, it certainly looks like one.
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Older stuff again
1950! So one of Dad's taken from our front gate.
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Winner of the Libre/Clubman's race, Kim Mather. NSCC Donington, 17th September 1977.
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Must get back to the Southward Museum, now we have digital and I don't have to count how many frames I can spare!
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Pics disappeared again... Grrr!
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Arthur Nash (Turner BMC) rebuilt the Mini engine I bought to NZ that eventually passed through the hands of Mike Lucas.
Arthur claimed he was a distant relative of the NZ politician, Walter Nash. Pic taken 24th February at a CUAC Mallory Park sprint, that unfortunately, didn't include the hairpin.
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Snakes alive!
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Abarth 1300 OT Periscopio
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Back in 1966, when NZ's 20 year-old petrolheads were hooning around in cars, those of us in the UK couldn't afford to run cars, as the compulsory insurance and low youth wages made it impossible, so sitting at the kitchen table with pencil and paints was an alternative.
The monthly model car magazine 'Miniature Auto' had excellent plan drawings of cars and these were used as a base. (I still have the magazines!)
If I have shown these before, I apologise. They were painted on card and stuck to the bedroom wall with blu-tack, so they haven't aged too well. Back then, cars were still individually recognisable - and you didn't need to be a graphic artist to reproduce the commercial signage.
A year later, working up to 90 hours week, which continued for another six years, the brushes laid dormant and did so until 1999!
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chaindrive
04-05-2022, 01:24 AM
Superb
Roger Dowding
04-05-2022, 05:46 AM
Brilliant, Ray Green, thanks for sharing, and well worth keeping.
Most of my bedroom wall stuff has gone missing. Car stuff it was too !!
I have three pics from Goodwood that just won't upload. No idea what the issue is.
Ex pat Kiwi, Roger Wills.
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Alex Buncombe/Jenson button Cobra
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Allan
04-11-2022, 04:32 AM
A40 looks a little used
I think it got squeezed at Lavant.
Oldfart
04-11-2022, 11:55 AM
I think it got squeezed at Lavant.
Pristine now! It was fixed very quickly at Jordan Racing team.
Yet more BRMs and no apologies from me for that! The 70 year BRM demonstration was one of the major incentives to travel in 2021, despite the obvious travel problems, difficulties and of course, costs. As things stand right now, I'm not sure I'll get back to Goodwood again, but we'll just have to see, as it is without a doubt, the most photogenic classic race event any where.
If I do get back, 2024 may be the next opportunity, as I have ruled it out for this year and 2023 we have a world cruise planned.
My guess is that they may honour Graham Hill this year, 60 years after his World Championship win, so an opportunity for BRM's again!
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One lap before the earlier pic of the A40!
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Recent scans
1974 - Mallory Park
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1975 - Dudley & District Car Club's 'Tocky Bonk' trial, sharing lodger Mike's 1116cc Mini. I only joined Dudley as at that time, the Nottingham Sports Car Club weren't members of the Association of Midland Motor Clubs. When I took over as NSCC competition Secretary after they ceased all involvement in circuit racing, I got the NSCC into the AMMC and instigated the NSCC Sprint Championship, that took off very quickly, as the points system wasn't based on times, but on attendance and also the number of people beaten in class. The 200GBP prize fund was split according to points earned and started at the minimum points earned for attendance at a specified number of events.
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1977 Donington
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1980 Curborough. Alan Payne's 'Smiley Riley' - with Rover V8 power. My inspiration for the Magnette and my SMILEY plate, bought originally for my own Riley (Elf). The Riley 1.5 was my preferred project car, but the rotted out Magnette came up first. The other contender was a Standard 10.
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Bruce302
04-22-2022, 04:03 AM
That Riley must have been a handful, and fun.
Graet atmosphere in the pics.
It went very well Bruce. Then Alan fitted the engine to a Brabham single seater - and added Nitrous Oxide! Sadly he passed away several years ago.
I took more photographs at Goodwood on the Friday than the other two days, and it was also the only day I could get to the chicane grandstand, so I made the most of it.
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Recent scans
Prescott 1971
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1975 - 'Tocky Bonk'
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1980 - Donington
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1983 - Pukekohe - Bruce Sutcliffe and Buckler
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Roger Dowding
04-27-2022, 04:41 AM
ERC, Thanks for the Healey picture and the great one of Mr " NZ Buckler " Bruce Sutcliffe and one of the Bucklers hwe was connected with. Would like to borrow them both, and put the Buckler one on the UK based Buckler groups page.
Some very interesting cars in your recent posts, keep them coming !
Cheers
Roger
2004 - Team Lotus
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2009 - Pukekohe - a charity day
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2018 - Grimsthorpe
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2018 - Goodwood
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End of the film - Alec Rivers-Fletcher, former BRM PRO and his Bentley at Curborough, 1978.
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1983 Pukekohe
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Oldfart
04-30-2022, 09:16 AM
in post 4246. what is the big engine needing the extra intakes? Perhaps the Lotus Buick??
Car #26? Just a Lotus 15 with 2 litre engine.
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1971 Prescott - genuine Sebring MGC.
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1980 Donington
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2004 Pukekohe. When the Leisurertime Series as was, got too big, it was firstly split into saloons and sports/GT. Tracer saloons sponsored by Greg Bellingham, Leisuretime Sports/GTs (Geoff Bonham). However, speed differentials in both groups caused major issues hence the move to a speed group split, which was easier to manage.
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2004 Curborough
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Oldfart
05-02-2022, 09:36 PM
I meant car #24 Ray.
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