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Steve Holmes
10-10-2016, 09:54 PM
The RAC TT race in full.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XVEXo4-VSk
that hardtop on the cobra's (car number 98) looks terrible I reckon
There is no point in posting a pic of every car in the St Mary's (Austin A30/A35 races) but most had a 'named' driver for practice 1 (dry) and race 1 (wet) with the owner's on Day 2 (dry). The few I am posting are generally the 'named' driver as per the name of the image. (Run your mouse over the image if I haven't marked them.)
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Although supposedly a 'control' engine for this Academy Series, one team managed to get through three engines during the weekend. As noted earlier, Paul Radish's car didn't sound too sweet on Friday or Saturday.
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Steve Holmes
10-11-2016, 11:55 PM
There was a piece about the A30/35 class on a show on SKY Sport recently. It was created by Julius Thurgood as a budget prices one-make historic category, whereby people go out and purchase a standard A30/35, then buy a kit from Thurgood's company which is supposed to make all the cars equal on performance.
It's that man, Tiff Needell again... Last set from this grid, before we get to one of my favourite grids. The Goodwood Trophy.
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Not in the race programme, but thanks to the great definition on the full sized image, Frank Stippler.
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No excuses here for more than 1 pic of many cars. Practice was dry (Friday) but this was the first race up on Saturday - and it started raining lap one and that rain remained for most of the day. I hope you enjoy this set as much as I do.
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Love it when you can see the driver 'driving'!
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AMCO72
10-13-2016, 08:08 PM
Ray, could you please tell me, what is 'MG' about the car in pic 1010.........the twin OHC engine, or anything else that I can see.....other than the badge, doesnt seem to be connected to MG in any way........just asking.
From the interweb:
"From what I can determine, it seems that the car was originally a MG K3 Magnette similar to the car that Tazio Nuvolari drove to win the Ards TT in 1933. The car was subsequently converted to a single-seat layout. Well-known British racer, Reg Parnell, bought this car in 1935 and raced it in British racing events. Parnell then converted it to a twin-cam engine and he raced it until 1937, when he sold the car."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOW0IbvvFok
"Parnell came from a family which ran a garage business in Derby. In 1933, he was a spectator when Donington Park held its first motor race, and he decided to try the sport. By 1935, he bought an old 2-litre Bugatti single-seater for just £25. It broke its rear axle in the paddock at its first meeting, but buying spare parts for the Bugatti was too expensive, so it was replaced with a MG Magnette K3. Parnell had secured wins at both Brooklands and Donington Park, but in 1937 he lost his licence following a practice accident for the 500 Mile race, at Brooklands. He misjudged an overtaking move on Kay Petre, when he lost control of the MG, crashing into her Austin 7 from behind, causing it to roll. She crashed badly and was seriously injured. She never raced competitively again. Although she put the incident down to ‘bad luck’, the RAC revoked Parnell’s racing license for two years. This meant that he was unable to race."
Incidentally, the car was damaged at the 2014 Goodwood meeting.
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First race up on Saturday morning and note that the stand is nowhere near full. Always pays to get to a race meeting early if you want a decent view. I noted that the grid girls did the same row each time, so #1 was always the same girl. I observe things like that...
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khyndart in CA
10-14-2016, 12:24 AM
Ray,
Your photos are fantastic. I hope you don't mind this input of why Reg Parnell got in trouble over this incident.
Poor Kay Petre was at the wrong place at the wrong time in car # 3.
""Parnell came from a family which ran a garage business in Derby. In 1933, he was a spectator when Donington Park held its first motor race, and he decided to try the sport. By 1935, he bought an old 2-litre Bugatti single-seater for just £25. It broke its rear axle in the paddock at its first meeting, but buying spare parts for the Bugatti was too expensive, so it was replaced with a MG Magnette K3. Parnell had secured wins at both Brooklands and Donington Park, but in 1937 he lost his licence following a practice accident for the 500 Mile race, at Brooklands. He misjudged an overtaking move on Kay Petre, when he lost control of the MG, crashing into her Austin 7 from behind, causing it to roll. She crashed badly and was seriously injured. She never raced competitively again. Although she put the incident down to ‘bad luck’, the RAC revoked Parnell’s racing license for two years. This meant that he was unable to race."
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(Ken Hyndman )
Thanks Ken. I hadn't even heard of the car before 2012, when it appeared at the Monaco Historics. Having just been to Brooklands, the day before Goodwood, the banking looks frightening today, let alone then. I believe it was constructed quite quickly and is anything but smooth - and I doubt it ever was. Brave men and women back then.
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Whoops....
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Rhys, I thought I'd already replied, but others on Windows may find this free utility very useful, for shrinking images. Called Image Resizer'.
http://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/
It allows you to shrink a block of pics in one go. I'm currently setting mine to 850 pixels wide. Occasionally, the image still comes out larger than this site's 185kb limit, but most are OK, having already been cropped.
I keep the originals and only shrink copies!
In Windows File Explorer, you simply select the images you want to shrink, then right click the mouse and it should come up with 'Resize pictures' as one of the options. Like Rhys, it was doing my head in before, trying to shrink them one by one in Photoshop, so I had never posted as many as I would have liked.
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Possibly the most raced and most successful historic race car ever. However, it seems that other cars may have been further developed recently, as 'Remus' (R5B) wasn't on the podium this time or even in contention. In fact, for the first time in a long, long time, there was no ERA on the podium. Mark Gillies in ERA R3A was leading at one stage, but had an off course excursion and maybe even a quick call in to the pits, before rejoining.
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A rare shot as the E Type ERA only managed this one out lap in practice. No idea what the problem was, but a portent of things to come for the ERA camp! When you consider the low number of ERAs built, the survival rate is not only impressive, but the fact that so many are still raced is even more impressive. I wonder if anyone will ever recreate the post war G Type that morphed into the Bristol Le Mans car?
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Just two sets to go in this grid.
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Not the winner though - 2nd or 3rd.
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The winner - Callum Lockie - has a unique way of jumping out of the car!
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There were several parades. The "Road to Wembley - 1966", a tribute to Sir Jack Brabham, "Return to Power (F1)" and a parade of "Goodwood Greats". Some of the parade cars were racing anyway, but some were not. A bit of a mixed bag, but an integral part of the Revival.
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Better known as the Kimberley Special
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Next small set coming soon - 1966 era F1 cars.
The 'Return to Power' in 1966 is what killed off Goodwood - and many would say, 'thank goodness for that'. When Lord March re-opened it for the first Revival, I am sure he had no idea of just what an iconic event it would turn into.
Had the circuit remained, but surrounded by those terrible wire fences that infest most current tracks, this race meeting would never ever be the drawcard it is. Being able to walk right around the track, lean on a waist high fence, use a modest camera to get the sort of shots you see here, surely tells it all?
Having now been to the Monaco Historics, where you are penned into whatever cage your ticket allows, but no paddock access and none of the carnival or trade support, not to mention car parking, even though the cars on track may be similar, no contest from a spectator viewpoint. Goodwood wins hands down. I'd never bother go back to Monaco, but I could do every Goodwood race meeting and always enjoy it. Not perfect maybe, but I'd rate it overall at 95%.
The 1966 F1 group wasn't very large, (no Ferrari) but so good to hear race engines that sounded like race engines and not X-Box screamers.
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One of the reasons for only giving Goodwood a 95% rating relates to the programming or scheduling. As mentioned before, there is a lot of wasted track time, yet the 'Sussex Trophy' cars never got out on track until the end of the day, Friday and again Sunday. OK, my choice to leave just before racing finished not to mention being very tired, but with 50,000 people heading for the exits at the same time, being fed into the narrow country lanes or even the A27, leaving early was a no brainer that worked very well for me.
I'm bitterly disappointed that I missed these cars on track and if anyone with Goodwood connections reads this (I doubt they will), then a plea to have a look at the schedule to maybe shuffle the groups around a wee bit. Two Austin A35 races and two pedal car races in the middle of the day, not to mention the 3 parades repeated each day, but Sussex Trophy cars not before 5.25pm (race, 6pm practice), was a shame.
Apologies for not covering many cars, but had I done my homework, I would have taken more paddock shots! No apologies for concentrating on the Listers and the Tojeiro. Based on the entry list. I should have taken the Devin Chev - but I didn't see it, Lotus 15's, a Ferrari 246s Dino (missed that one too...), Sadler Chev and Maserati Birdcage - which I thought I had taken.
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khyndart in CA
10-17-2016, 09:32 PM
Ray,
Your photos are amazing and you take the time to share them all. Thanks so much.
Is that Chris McAllister driving the Lotus 49 # 5 with the Jim Clark type helmet ?
( Ken H.)
Is that Chris McAllister driving the Lotus 49 # 5 with the Jim Clark type helmet?
( Ken H.)
Thanks Ken, but there is no mention in the programme of who is driving which car or as they are display cars only, not even what the car numbers are. As with the Brabham parade, you'd need to be far more knowledgeable than I am to accurately identify each car. You can tell the difference between an H16 BRM and the V12 BRM easily enough...
I think the mclaren dfv is later than 1966 ray
Correct, but the cars in the parade weren't all 1966! They ranged from 1966 - 1968. The parade was titled 'Return to Power' to recognise the 3 litre formula. Sorry, maybe I should have explained that better. There were 14 cars listed but not all appeared - or ran. The earlier McLaren Ford wasn't seen on track.
Another favourite group, so often, more than 1 pic of most cars. The bright sunshine really helped. I totally missed the practice session as it was when I was hiking from Madgwick back to the car for the fresh camera battery. This is from the 'Richmond Trophy' grid, for 2.5 litre GP cars that raced 1954 - 1960.
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Taken quite late in the race, after an 'incident' between the Scarab and the Tec Mec. Tec Mec = Tecnica Meccanico Maserati, which was one of those unique exhibits in the early days of the Donington Collection, which always made it such a joy to visit.
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Whilst 'front three quarter' pics may be a bit of a bore photographically, or artistically, I make no excuse, as I really enjoy building up my library of car photographs covering as many makes and models as possible. However, I do enjoy some of the action photographs and the driver stance, or cars slightly out of shape on the track. Note the number of selected pics so far, of drivers maybe struggling with gear selection or watching the mirrors or with hands off the wheel.
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I don't think the #8 BRM made it to the grid for the race. Pity.
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I'm amazed that this Lancia D50 isn't marked as a replica or recreation, as all the originals were destroyed. Probably only of interest to the pedants, but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to accurately label or categorise some cars. Maybe the answer is to apply a disclaimer to all published pics that the car may or may not be an original?
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Steve Holmes
10-18-2016, 03:16 AM
One of the reasons for only giving Goodwood a 95% rating relates to the programming or scheduling. As mentioned before, there is a lot of wasted track time, yet the 'Sussex Trophy' cars never got out on track until the end of the day, Friday and again Sunday. OK, my choice to leave just before racing finished not to mention being very tired, but with 50,000 people heading for the exits at the same time, being fed into the narrow country lanes or even the A27, leaving early was a no brainer that worked very well for me.
I'm bitterly disappointed that I missed these cars on track and if anyone with Goodwood connections reads this (I doubt they will), then a plea to have a look at the schedule to maybe shuffle the groups around a wee bit. Two Austin A35 races and two pedal car races in the middle of the day, not to mention the 3 parades repeated each day, but Sussex Trophy cars not before 5.25pm (race, 6pm practice), was a shame.
Apologies for not covering many cars, but had I done my homework, I would have taken more paddock shots! No apologies for concentrating on the Listers and the Tojeiro. Based on the entry list. I should have taken the Devin Chev - but I didn't see it, Lotus 15's, a Ferrari 246s Dino (missed that one too...), Sadler Chev and Maserati Birdcage - which I thought I had taken.
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Loving these photos and details Ray. Keep 'em coming!
Out of interest, which performed better: The Lister Jaguars or Lister Chevrolets?
I have no idea Steve, as I never saw them on track! I'm sure that if you Google 'Sussex Trophy 2016' you'll get some response!
There's probably a link on the Goodwood site for a video of the race.
Here we are 5 weeks on, and I'm still wading through cataloguing and filing...
An Italian flavour for Spgeti. You can almost smell the garlic - or Castrol R.
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I didn't see this out on the track for the race.
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Red cars look so good in the Goodwood sun.
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Steve Holmes
10-18-2016, 03:33 AM
Thanks Ray, you are right, I could have answered my own question with a simple Google search:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbU0EPo_nQM
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This Connaught ran for most of the race firing on less than its full quota of cylinders, hence the raised arms,
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The 4WD Ferguson had a spin! Another unique car that has moved from Donington - now back with the Rolt family.
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Bright red body, silver or polished or chrome wheels, black tyres, gets my vote every time over black body, black wires, black tyres...
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Once again, loaded the pics, went back later and just the attachment list showing, so reloaded...
Roger Dowding
10-19-2016, 12:03 AM
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This Connaught ran for most of the race firing on less than its full quota of cylinders, hence the raised arms,
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The 4WD Ferguson had a spin! Another unique car that has moved from Donington - now back with the Rolt family.
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Did the 4WD Ferguson come to NZ, with Graham Hill driving ?? .. must look it up .. thanks Ray great pictures again..
Did the 4WD Ferguson come to NZ, with Graham Hill driving ?? .. must look it up .. thanks Ray great pictures again..
Before my NZ time, but yes. The car did race in NZ and there was only the one built. Had it been built and raced a year or two earlier, who knows what would have happened to GP racing?
As I grew up in the 1950's, this 2.5 litre formula was what really captivated me (along with the sports cars of the day) and I feel lucky that not only do I associate with these cars, but that I can photograph them today. Thank goodness so many have survived and that we have owners willing to put them out on the track for us all to enjoy.
I don't think this car made the race grid either.
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The Scarab finished, the Tec Mec didn't.
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Last of this set. So grateful for the Sunday sunshine!
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A few random pics before the 1.5 litre F1 group, just to clear up my filing a wee bit.
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I did say a mix of pics, so a few other shots from Goodwood, just to capture some of the atmosphere.
Goodwood is anything but snobbish and there is a lot of humour around - the comedy road builders for starters.
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...and comedians such as Rowan Atkinson, being serious.
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...a load of 'soccer players' wearing the Bobby Moore number 6 shirt. They did have an England vs Germany soccer match too!
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The rowdy gals of St Trinians, with head mistress of course, pulling faces at passers by and generally causing mayhem, were a huge hit. I'm sure one of them blew me a kiss. Along with a group of 'football supporters', they caught one of the double deckers, for a lap of the track.
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Getting ready for one of the 'Road to Wembley' parades.
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Sir Jackie Stewart talking to a group in the pits area.
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For anyone who has just hooked into this thread, the Goodwood stuff starts way back on page #31. Another non car set later, but back to the cars for the last of the race groups.
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BRM power
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Car 15 is Richard Attwood 1965 BRM, car 26 is a 1964 - both P261models.
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The photographers standing on the mound, after the Chicane exit, were only allowed there during the warm up lap.
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This was probably the noisiest of all race groups - and only 1500cc...
Last of this set.
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Pity that so many are wearing modern helmet decorations. Apart from the late Pete Arundell, I can't remember any 'Dayglo' helmets in period.
A few lesser pics - especially the last one...
The Austin J40 pedal car races, whilst popular for the families taking part, were not what you pay big money to see. I'd love to know what other paying spectators thought, as it only takes place between the Chicane exit and the finish line - and even that was almost too much for some pedallers - and it takes far too long. Total waste of track time.
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OK, not a car, but interesting for me as dad's boss who owned the Brough Superior pictured many, many posts back, also owned a Miles Messenger, which he used for pleasure, as well as for aerial photography. This is a 1947 aircraft so is probably the same age as the one in which I had my first ever flight, in 1951.
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The drivers' briefings were held grid by grid, immediately before each race. These drivers look guilty already...
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Another Goodwood mix. Includes some left over pics from previous groups.
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Probably the least sporting car out on track, but for 1,000's of disabled, freedom.
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Still rounding up odd stray pics. One or two got missed earlier...
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A fitting end shot to Goodwood...
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Next batches will be a bit more varied (probably still from the UK trip initially - and even the odd Goodwood leftover) but uploaded here as I continue the job of sorting, deleting and filing, before I return to the scanning of old negatives and slides. I cannot believe that 11.5 years has now passed since acquiring my first quality compact digital camera, but 20 years since the first use of a Casio digital, with terrible image quality and 4 x AA batteries that lasted about 15 minutes...
Universal Studios - Singapore...
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Brooklands - There were plenty of Dutch registered classic cars around en-route for Goodwood.
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The Brooklands' cars deserve to be displayed with a bit more space around them, but some great cars in there, many in an 'as raced' condition and not restored.
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Yup, Goodwood...
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Thanks to the Interweb, I was able to type in the registration number of this car to confirm its make. (Goodwood)
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The F1 simulator looked to be so realistic that it was impossible for an ordinary driver to deal with!
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Brooklands - a look around...
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The much promoted Napier 4D 'ride experience' has several options. I paid for the Napier ride (4D) and also the 'a lap of Le Mans with Mike Hawthorn - on the public road', which is a B & W 2D experience only. I was a little underwhelmed with both if I am really honest.
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What the cafe menu does not show is the hot meal option, which I thought excellent for value and taste.
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I thought the English version was 'Concord' - but on checking today, that was in fact changed later to 'Concorde' - and Benn's explanation is quite amusing, especially when challenged by a Scot!
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Brooklands - real
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Goodwood - recreation/replica
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Goodwood recreation/replica
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Goodwood recreation/replica
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Is this a real Stratos or a replica? If anyone knows, please tell. I'm guessing replica, but being pedantic about filing, I hate to be wrong.
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Just three more from Goodwood - from the sundries department...
Anyone who knows me well will appreciate that I like my food... Although I didn't sample everything, this stall selling cheese on toast was doing a roaring trade - and this was taken 8am, in the area immediately outside the track footbridge.
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It says MG in the background, but as this drive train replaces the venerable old B series, can this photograph be classed as MG?
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When the sun shines, it really is glorious Goodwood.
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Next stop was the Mini factory tour in Oxford. very impressive but no photographs allowed other than in their small museum.
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On then to the Coventry Transport Museum. Wow! This was a real surprise - and free entry. Some exhibits were exceptionally well displayed.
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Andrew Metford
10-27-2016, 07:14 AM
It says MG in the background, but as this drive train replaces the venerable old B series, can this photograph be classed as MG?
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No, because in this case it's M for Mazda, not Morris.
A change of pace for a couple of days. Hampton Downs 101 meeting.
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This is the exit to newly named, 'Double Bastard' corner... Race driving instructor Mike Eady was busy taking notes to identify the correct lines, to add to his superb track driving manual. Not easy, as several drivers discovered, resulting in several red flags early on Friday.
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An aural feast!
Terry S
10-28-2016, 09:03 AM
Just three more from Goodwood - from the sundries department...
Anyone who knows me well will appreciate that I like my food... Although I didn't sample everything, this stall selling cheese on toast was doing a roaring trade - and this was taken 8am, in the area immediately outside the track footbridge.
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It says MG in the background, but as this drive train replaces the venerable old B series, can this photograph be classed as MG?
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When the sun shines, it really is glorious Goodwood.
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Next stop was the Mini factory tour in Oxford. very impressive but no photographs allowed other than in their small museum.
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On then to the Coventry Transport Museum. Wow! This was a real surprise - and free entry. Some exhibits were exceptionally well displayed.
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Are these photos going to go on interminably? IT seems a while since anyone showed any interest.
It would be different I there was descriptions but these seem lackin. Surely if you are at a meeting you would buy a program to identify the cars. I consider this is a wasted exercise. But maybe others get some sort of enjoyment from seeing photos of cars they have no idea what they are.
The title of the thread, just in case you hadn't noticed, is 'Just a Mix of Pics'...
Most recent pics are named anyway, if you care to run your mouse over, and far from viewers not knowing what they really are, I'd suggest that many know far more about them than I do. Judging by the number of hits, there must be at least half a dozen people who are happy with them as they are. Anyone else want to comment? (The very first pic has had 8031 hits, so far...)
I'm certainly not writing a book on each and every pic, just to appease those who aren't really interested anyway or who have a very limited knowledge. It is merely sharing pics that would otherwise be buried on a PC, that ultimately will be probably dumped/wiped when I keel over.
I'm more than happy to expand or answer queries if required.
John McKechnie
10-28-2016, 09:52 AM
Keep them coming Ray- 248,478 hits so far.
Thats damn near quarter of a million
Oldfart
10-28-2016, 02:16 PM
Kee putting them up Ray. Most of us like them!
Terry it's a bit like the TV. If you don't like the programme there is always the "off button". I don't look at every thread as they don't all interest me. You could choose to not look at Ray's photos?
Roger Dowding
10-28-2016, 11:39 PM
Are these photos going to go on interminably? IT seems a while since anyone showed any interest.
It would be different I there was descriptions but these seem lackin. Surely if you are at a meeting you would buy a program to identify the cars. I consider this is a wasted exercise. But maybe others get some sort of enjoyment from seeing photos of cars they have no idea what they are.
Terry S, guess you need to read a book, many people are enjoying them !! getting plenty of views .. Thanks ERC ..
Roger Dowding
10-28-2016, 11:40 PM
Kee putting them up Ray. Most of us like them!
Terry it's a bit like the TV. If you don't like the programme there is always the "off button". I don't look at every thread as they don't all interest me. You could choose to not look at Ray's photos?
Yep my comment is similar ..
Dale Harvey
10-28-2016, 11:46 PM
I agree with the others. Keep them coming!! This is one thread that I keep looking at. Thanks.
Dale.
Ross Hollings
10-29-2016, 12:12 AM
Great photos Ray,wow,i would love to go to those places some time,keep them coming.As for Terry S,needs to stop taking the grumpy pills.!!
chaindrive
10-29-2016, 12:28 AM
Great pics. Use them to test the brain. 2 x Fluoxitine tabs in the morning would certainly help......................!!!!!
Spgeti
10-29-2016, 12:30 AM
Ray, your pics are always of interest....keep them coming
Terry S
10-29-2016, 01:33 AM
Great photos Ray,wow,i would love to go to those places some time,keep them coming.As for Terry S,needs to stop taking the grumpy pills.!!
Why is it "grumpy" to ask for the names of the cars? Surely that would only enhance the thread. Look at posts 1053 to 1057 as example. I' d love to know what some of those cars are.
ERC's comment that you can run the mouse over the photo is of little use, as I and I expect a large number of viewers are using iPads!
Why is it "grumpy" to ask for the names of the cars? Surely that would only enhance the thread. Look at posts 1053 to 1057 as example. I' d love to know what some of those cars are.
ERC's comment that you can run the mouse over the photo is of little use, as I and I expect a large number of viewers are using iPads!
as far as I know, this is a historical site, so if you use a modern device you lose so of the smaller (but useful) bits
Thanks Guys for the positive comments. Not being an i-Pad user, I wouldn't have a clue but I would have thought there was some means of identifying an image's name.
This might help you Terry...
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Today, the Nikon's shutter died... (I didn't know they had a finite life) so I left HD early to see if it could be sorted. Not easily, and it means sending it away - so I had to invest in a new camera. I suppose that is next month's pension spent already.
Now I find on Google, there may be a temporary fix that I'll have to try, but the camera shop were quite adamant that the shutters may not be good for more than a certain number of shutter operations.
A few from today. I missed much of the day (see above) but still managed to take some with the Nikon, but most of the statics are with the compact camera.
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Although not in the programme, as the deal wasn't made until Thursday, Angus did a deal to drive this 'Aussie Race car' (which was red on Friday - he had it vinyl wrapped overnight...) and first time out was about 6th on the grid, basically where he finished in race 1 Saturday.
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More from Hampton Downs 101
Warwick and Andre Mortimer are keen supporters of local motorsport in more than one category.
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Good to see former speedway sprint car champ Kerry Jones out on track.
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nigel watts
10-30-2016, 12:24 AM
Keep em coming Ray. I enjoy looking at all your photos. I noticed yesterday that the "double bastard" corner is quite bumpy in the second part and was catching a few drivers out.
Those little Aussie Race Cars look like fun
nigel watts
10-30-2016, 12:26 AM
Bugger - didn't see that Pagani yesterday.
Bugger - didn't see that Pagani yesterday.
Probably because it was behind the Amon block apartments! I have two or three other pics of it.
Yup, the new extension is bumpy there. Interesting that on TV they are calling it 'DB' corner. I wonder if the brewery will front up with any advertising revenue? The Ten Tenths site automatically renamed it Double *******!
I was quite impressed with the little Aussie race cars too. They sound pretty good - but weren't they originally named 'Star cars'?
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Bit of a beggar having that corner named 'Porsche Dipper'...
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yep,star cars, or in the US, and GB, legends. Most popular race cars in the world. last numbers I saw was 6000 sold. bit like a nascar or aussie racing taxi, identical underneath, different shell on top
John McKechnie
10-30-2016, 02:44 AM
AKA- Little Aussie Battlers.
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Although I did take a fair few pics, last batch to be published for now from the HD101. I know others will publish pics if relevant, meanwhile, I'm still uploading and filing from mid September! 101 certainly looked good on TV.
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What a great noise this car makes. Very unlucky not to win. For anyone who really thinks Formula E is the future, think again.
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Tony Quinn must love liquorice as he owns Darryl Lea in Australia and also RJ's in NZ. Gives a good run for the money as they used to say...
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Rod Grimwood
10-31-2016, 01:27 AM
Ray it's hereditary, runs in the jeans.
Coventry. Oldfart will be swotting up on all of these like mad...
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Some very imaginative displays and as Coventry was heavily bombed during WW2, part of the history of the City is included in the Transport Museum's displays. Note the white edges on the wings. As lights were not allowed during the blackouts, cars and bicycles had to have these painted. My dear old dad, probably one of the most law-abiding men who ever lived, must somehow have overlooked painting the rear 9" of the mudguard on his pushbike - or borrowed someone else's, as he was summonsed and fined 5/- by the court, the only ticket he ever got! Putting that into perspective, as a proportion of the wages at the time, it makes today's NZ attitudes to law breaking and fines, a total joke - or the UK penalties very harsh.
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I'd better name this one, or Terry will be somewhat frustrated, as it not as easy to identify as most of the others. Its a Ferguson 4WD prototype...
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Note that the display boards are situated in such a way that they don't block the view through the lens. Other museums, please take note.
Its a Calcott Terry... The rest you should be OK with.
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A bit of nostalgia here! Right up until the day I left home at 21, we only ever had 1 family car. This 1934 Singer 9 Coupe. Apparently, it developed an appetite for half shafts and dad could no longer afford to run it. It was buried in the garage from about 1953 up until a student paid 5 quid for it in 1966 and having divested if of its mechanical bits, scrapped it.
I can't ever remember it having a radio and have only just noticed that it had an aerial! As Dad was ex-Royal Signals and a radio/TV technician in the evenings, both as a hobby and later as a part timer with local repairer, nothing would surprise me.
The second pic shows it after it was dragged out of the garage and just before he came along with a truck to take it away. In the background is my first motorised transport, the trusty LE Velocette and the firm's Minivan - which I was allowed to bring home, but wasn't allowed to use privately.
To this day, I have only ever seen two other Coupes and apparently, there are only about a dozen left - one in Fremantle.
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According to a card at the museum, they have acquired a coupe, (maybe Rhys will trip over it?) but on display is this one.
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Also on display is this Singer van, similar to the one used by the local dairy owner, who lived just 3 doors away. When I say dairy, I mean just that. He'd get churns of milk from the farm just up the road, bottle and deliver it.
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Steve Holmes
10-31-2016, 11:48 PM
Awesome story and photos Ray. That Singer 9 coupe is a really pretty little car.
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Another tough batch for Terry...
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This Standard looks like the one in a recent period Aussie crime series where I believe it was repowered by a Holden motor.
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Lea Francis
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Strange that having seen this Techcraft BRM at Curborough many moons ago, I wasn't aware that it was 4WD!
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Last batch from the Coventry Museum, though I might post another couple later. (Dratted system mucked things up again, so reposting pictures)
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You can see why the nickname for British Police cars in this livery was 'jam sandwich'.
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Once again, I can't speak too highly of this museum. The presentation is at times, very imaginative and there is plenty I haven't covered. It deserves to be supported and as the Heritage Motor Museum (coming soon!) isn't too far away, both being fairly central England, visitors from NZ should pencil these in, as they are midweek attractions. Both may host extra meets or gatherings, especially the latter, at weekends, but wandering around midweek is a peaceful exercise.
Other possibilities are the Castle Bromwich Jaguar factory, Land Rover and a little further away, the Morgan factory at Malvern. They were on my original list, but I cut short my visit by a few days to please my dear wife, who didn't really want me to be away at all, but bless her, she did allow me this selfish trip.
A quick return to Brooklands...
The H A R was originally fitted with a 2.6 Riley engine and raced in F2, but was no match for the Connaughts. Later, fitted with a 3.8 Jaguar engine. A golden age when competent engineers could design and build a race car. I love stuff like this. This part of the Brooklands collection really needs the cars spaced out a bit as they are crammed in.
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A recreation of Campbell's car - Napier.
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I also took pics in the London bus museum. Coventry also had a few commercials and buses. Not too sure whether they belong on this thread and would be of interest to others. Let me know.
Apart from the buses, the last of the Brooklands pics. More specials.
Ridley Special
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Michael Clark
11-02-2016, 08:42 AM
Keep 'em coming Ray
Will do Michael!
The Heritage Museum at Gaydon was originally the BL Museum, situated at Syon Park, just west of London. Needless to say, the new complex is still dominated by products from the BL empire, so no excuses for the biased mix of pics. In April 2016, the extra building housing the stored cars was opened to the public and as mentioned earlier, the Jaguar collection, formerly housed at Brown's Lane, now occupies much of the ground floor, along with a modern workshop, visible from the mezzanine.
There is no attempt to 'display' the cars as it is simply a storage facility, and light from the large windows can dazzle, but most cars in the storage area do have a display card. As mentioned before, although the main halls are well lit and the cars well displayed, the display card stands are often intrusive from my perspective. Apart from one or two displays, it has to be said that the Coventry museum is far more imaginative. Even in the main hall, there are areas where the cars are side by side, bumper to bumper. First five shots here are the storage area.
The stars overall though, are the concept cars and prototypes.
In the workshop, there were cars that had been on display at Goodwood.
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My choice of car for driving in and around Auckland...
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Couldn't get this Daimler in my garage.
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Mini, yes. Body is fibreglass...
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nice to see silvestone Sid's jaguar in the background. keep them coming
Nice to see silvestone Sid's jaguar in the background. keep them coming
Yup. Remember it well!
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The original Jaguar 220 did of course have that fabulous V12 engine and attracted about 55,000 advance deposits from potential buyers - many of whom were not exactly impressed with the production item!
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Still in the storage hall. A batch of MGs.
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This interesting MG prototype was somewhat unsurprisingly built on a TVR V8. Although the Roy Axe design included a revamped, luxury interior, this prototype had the TVR interior. It was dropped in favour of the MGF.
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This is a 6 cylinder MG Metro prototype - but still with a fairly small capacity.
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A rear view of the MGF mule (Austin Metro ute).
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In the main hall, a post - with a car behind...
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Yet more from the storage building.
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1978 Austin Princess 'glassback' designed by Ogle in conjunction with Triplex. It featured some very clever glass technology, including a flexible glass sunroof.
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nigel watts
11-03-2016, 09:42 PM
Yet more from the storage building.
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1978 Austin Princess 'glassback' designed by Ogle in conjunction with Triplex. It featured some very clever glass technology, including a flexible glass sunroof.
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Can't see these images Ray
Seems to be regular hiccup with the website Nigel. It seems to happen about 1 post in 10. All looks good. Reloads OK, then minutes later, all gone again. Have reposted them - #1110.
A very quick Jaguar - complete with parachute at the rear.
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Meet "Gladys"... This was supposed to be an Alvis but was eventually badged Rover, built on Rover P6 basics.
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These volunteers were restoring an ex RAF Standard Ensign.
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Michelotti Triumph Dolomite proposal
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Yep a Mini. But gearless.
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It's a family friendly museum so this Shaun the Sheep (by Wallace & Gromit creators) bedecked Land Rover is a good start.
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For those with long memories, Rover were looking well ahead, way back in 1950 and their gas turbine or jet cars are on show here.
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The second Rover-BRM - a much nicer looking machine than the previous one.
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This is one sports car that very nearly made it into full production. The 1967 Rover/Alvis was even released to the press for test drives.
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The Leyland badge on two totally different cars!
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Rover Marauder
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Bruce302
11-05-2016, 06:55 AM
Thanks Ray, that is a fantastic collection of cars.
Your time taking and effort uploading all these pics is greatly appreciated.
Bruce.
Thanks Bruce - and others who have commented. Fat lot of use taking and saving photographs if no one else sees them! I am posting and filing at the same time.
Although I grew up reading a lot, Dad's (small) collection of motoring books - even though only looking at the pictures initially - gave me a lot of pleasure, not to mention his photographs. Nowadays, my UK based son isn't really into cars, my grandson probably won't be either, so at least on here, they may give a few others something to look at and may even enjoy.
I'm also trying to catalogue the still negatives and slides of the years before 2005. So far, 11,000 individual negatives logged with a few year's worth to go plus the slides. I'm not sure if Ross and the other prolific posters, have catalogued theirs, from the days of film, as they probably have much larger collections - certainly Ross's collection must be huge - and far more professional than mine, which is at a very amateur level, generally taken from the spectator areas.
Roger Dowding
11-05-2016, 11:37 AM
Thanks Bruce - and others who have commented. Fat lot of use taking and saving photographs if no one else sees them! I am posting and filing at the same time.
Although I grew up reading a lot, Dad's (small) collection of motoring books - even though only looking at the pictures initially - gave me a lot of pleasure, not to mention his photographs. Nowadays, my UK based son isn't really into cars, my grandson probably won't be either, so at least on here, they may give a few others something to look at and may even enjoy.
I'm also trying to catalogue the still negatives and slides of the years before 2005. So far, 11,000 individual negatives logged with a few years worth to go plus the slides. I'm not sure if Ross and the other prolific posters, have catalogued theirs, from the days of film, as they probably have much larger collections - certainly Ross's collection must be huge - and far more professional than mine, which is at a very amateur level, generally taken from the spectator areas.
Ray .. your photos are great, appreciate all you post, have borrowed a few.. and may I say, some quite rare cars recently with Museum visits.. keep it up .. great to see .. thanks, and waiting for the next ones .. I have almost run out as a bit isolated here on Bribie .. John Mck, knows that .. and did not get to " Lakeside " at all this year . Must try harder in 2017 .. again thanks .. don't hold back !!
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The Issigonis Lightweight Special
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This isn't getting my deck rebuilt nor the Magnette V8 finished and the Marcos refreshed... A possible cracked rib isn't helping.
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Less easy to recognise, a Trojan.
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Graber bodied Alvis. This car with others was formerly part of a private collection, displayed on the mezzanine floor.
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Probably (though not necessarily) the last batch from this venue. As you can see, apart from the storage section, very well lit and flash not required. In some ways, this really will be a museum, showcasing makes and models and individuality that is being phased out or has already long gone from Britain's heritage. The Leyland years were sad in so many ways, and if you really want to understand a lot of what went on, I highly recommend you read Sir Michael Edwardes book 'Back From The Brink'.
Those of us of my age who grew up with a proliferation of small manufacturers, some better than others, larger local manufacturers, some better than others, although many were rubbish if compared to today's offerings, they can at least be looked back on with a degree of fondness that the current generation(s) will never, ever understand.
The last photograph in the batch above has 10 vehicles that never made it to full production, including an estate version (Rover), replacement prototypes, jet cars, twin-engine vehicles, convertibles and so on. Thank goodness these are available to view, as quite frankly, I can't see future generations visiting museums of the future, showing current offerings or current prototypes which are generally so characterless that you can't even tell what they are without reading a badge.
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Sorry about so many front three-quarter views, but as stated before, they are for a library and not for winning a photographic or artistic competition.
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Roger Dowding
11-07-2016, 08:06 AM
ERC, Ray thanks for more pics, some very interesting cars, the Rover Gas and Prototypes the Minis, the same never seen on the road.. and one of my favourite's the Group #44 E -Type.. finally that TVR, closest I have got to that is the two 1;43 models that grace my English / European cabinet .. cheers oops forgot the 30's Riley, must show that to my uncle when I get back to NZ in December ..
Although I called in briefly at Donington, once again, I opted to not go through as so many great cars have gone and the staff could only really offer the addition of a couple of modern F1 cars since my last visit. If you have never been before, the Donington Collection is worth a visit and as it backs on to the race track, you may be lucky to be there when they have a track day. That being the case, if you head down towards the paddock, the chances are that they'll let you in for free.
My last car call of this 2016 solo trip, was en route to Heathrow, the London Motor Museum at Hayes. I'd stayed at Watford Junction the night before so I didn't have the hassle of the M25 which can be a bit of a gamble at times and Hayes was just a short hop.
The entry fee was way over the top and the most expensive of the trip. I didn't know too much about the place in advance other than I knew there were custom cars and hot rods included. This is a privately owned museum and one person's personal collection and therefore represents his interests. The first picture is of the notice displayed just inside. Pity about the spelling mistake...
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An Opel...
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The Lincoln Zephyr referred to on the notice.
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Ferrari ute...
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The museum info is often misleading by quoting real cars yet displaying replicas, some of which were quite poor. This obvious replica had no info attached at all, real or fake.
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Some of the customised cars were either unfinished or dreadful, or both. Others were very impressive.
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Despite the notice stating "All cars are customised", that is blatantly incorrect, as there were plenty that were unmolested. They seem to push the sale of alloy wheels and at least three exhibits had totally inappropriate modern alloys - but with no sign of any other customising. A bit pointless.
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Gumpert Apollo - I needed to read up on that one as like so many small volume super cars, there is little real external individuality.
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TripAdvisor feedback states that rather than the collection growing, it has been shrinking. Given the owner's LA and USA connections, there are several cars with movie associations, again, real or copies I wouldn't know, such as the James Bond Lotus and a Batman duo, Disney 'Cars' and so on.
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Just one example of a classic car with inappropriate wheels
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Last batch from this venue (thank goodness I hear you purists say...).
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See post #930 for the interior. Barf bags not supplied.
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Maybe this last pic sums it up rather well?
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A little closer to home and another private collection. This is NOT open to the public and if you do know the owner, then please do not publish the location!
This Bentley is ex South Africa and whilst there, fitted with a different grille and was badged and registered as a Rolls Royce!
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For the pedantic ones, this is NOT a Jensen Healey GT, but is correctly labelled as a Jensen GT. The Americans have a lot to answer for with their 'safety' regulations.
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Dratted attachments disappeared again...
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This car very nearly had 'Royal Connections' but the visiting Royals' advance security advisors considered the lovely convertible would expose them.
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Not shown is the amazing collection of model vehicles, still in their boxes.
Back to a real Mix of Pics! What follows is a reversion to a mix of recent digital, older digital and past slides and negatives.
A three wheeling ever exuberant Gordon Burr
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Spotted at a motorway services area near Donington, what appears to be the latest incarnation of the GTM, orginally called the Cox GTM and a rear engined, Mini based kit car.
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A rather nice Scimitar outside the British Motor Museum.
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Another from the local collection.
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AMCO72
11-10-2016, 04:58 AM
Did they, the Americans, really think that fitting bumpers on steroids to cars was going to make any difference in a crash ? I have been to this collection with the VCC.......allsorts of interesting stuff, and the shed itself is a work of art.......
Did the 'Merit' range of plastic construction kits make it to NZ? Dad managed the full set and made a good job of building them. I think I have them here in NZ. Although from memory, about three or four times the price of the 2/- Airfix kits that were my staple as a teenager, they were affordable.
The nearest I have got to them in recent years are the Tamiya kits - and I got hooked on the Jaguar MkII kits when I was recovering from (the first) spinal fusion operation about 18 years ago.
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Whenuapai of course and one of my favourite cars to photograph. This is the 1986 event.
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And 1987.
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The Waitemata VCC Chelsea Hillclimb - when they had noisy cars... Must be on shortly and my guess is that it will probably clash with TACCOC's Pukekohe meet.
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Was there ever a car like it! Once heard, never forgotten - and there weren't any at Goodwood this year. This was the 1996 Festival meeting (hillclimb) and I think there were 3 V16s there. At that meeting, I used a digital camera for the first time. The quality was terrible...
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Manfeild Whittaker's meeting, 1997. Even without the delicious Nigella pushing their products, we have bought Whittakers chocolate for years. Their support of motorsport was one of the initial reasons, but now, we buy it because it is so good.
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Milan Fistonic
11-11-2016, 12:00 AM
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Did the 'Merit' range of plastic construction kits make it to NZ? Dad managed the full set and made a good job of building them. I think I have them here in NZ. Although from memory, about three or four times the price of the 2/- Airfix kits that were my staple as a teenager, they were affordable.
The nearest I have got to them in recent years are the Tamiya kits - and I got hooked on the Jaguar MkII kits when I was recovering from (the first) spinal fusion operation about 18 years ago.
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Yes they did. This is a very poor scan of the box my Vanwall model came in.
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Skipping around a bit as I try and clean up some folders on the PC, deleting duplicates or some with dodgy focus that have been superceded.
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One of my extensive collection of race programmes! Programmes often offer very interesting insights into the sport and those from earlier years are always worth a read. Note the illustration on the cover, of Starkey's Bridge. Can you imagine hurling those 500+BHP Mercedes and Auto Unions through there?
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Dad's pic of course from the above meeting - Lagonda chases Riley.
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My pic from the reopening of Donington, 40 years later. Mick Hill's F5000 Trojan based VW Chev. Mick sadly passed away not so long ago but was a key figure in the success of the UK Super Saloons as a builder and driver. Interesting that at the British GP meeting, the F1 fraternity were very interested in this car and that led to Dr Harvey Postlethwaite assisting Mick with the car - for free.
Mick was fairly local to Donington and trained as a Post Office engineer, so was very much a local celebrity, starting off his passion for large engines in smaller cars with the well known Janglia and V8 Capris, the Jaguar XK8, then after the VW, Skodas and even a BMW M1 - and others.
The VW was sold to Border Reiver's driver Doug Niven, who painted it blue and had a lot of success with it, particularly at the northern and Scottish tracks.
It appeared at the Goodwood Festival a couple of years ago, back in this livery and Mick was present to see it run.
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Richard Dodkins well campaigned Ginetta. Richard raced that fearsome March Canam car at Hampton Downs.
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Ellerslie Concours was usually on my calendar, but I have missed it for the last three years simply because it comes at a very busy time of the year with Taupo, HD x 2 and even Leadfoot all crammed into a few weeks.
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The Ellerslie dates may or may not be correct...
Five years on and Garrat's Riley is there again...
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RogerH
11-11-2016, 11:58 PM
The Waitemata VCC Chelsea Hillclimb - when they had noisy cars... Must be on shortly and my guess is that it will probably clash with TACCOC's Pukekohe meet.
Chelsea hillclimb is this coming Sunday 20 November. TACCOC at Pukekohe is on Sunday 27 November.
Terry S
11-12-2016, 01:13 AM
Skipping around a bit as I try and clean up some folders on the PC, deleting duplicates or some with dodgy focus that have been superceded.
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Wouldn't some descriptions be WONDERFUL?
Thanks Roger.
What descriptions would you like Terry? Most are fairly self explanatory in terms of broad identification, for anyone with a smidgin of general motoring knowledge.
Often, I simply just take a pic and apart from the make of car, which is usually obvious, I don't necessarily know too much. Where any previous pic since your last grizzle, might not be too clear, I have added something appropriate.
If you can't recognize a Ford Escort, Mercedes or Ford Anglia or even the giant Renault and Chitty Chitty Bang Bang from the pics, then I'm really not sure why you are still dipping in here. If you need locations or dates - which may or may not be obvious, or have another specific query on any posted pic, then by all means ask. As pointed out before, all my pics are dated as accurately as possible from the file name, but as I also pointed out before, those on PC's don't seem to have a problem, just you and your i-pad. Posting the pics takes enough time without also writing a book.
There are also some pics where I don't know what they are either, particularly 1940's and 1950's Americana, standard or customized - and even some single seaters, particularly Formula Fords.
Thankfully, many of the regular posters on here are able to fill in some of the gaps, particularly with regard to NZ events in the 1983 to 1990 bracket, when I neither kept a daily diary nor managed to get a programme.
Some pics take a lot of detective work and assumptions such as the pic of the Mick Hill VW. I wasn't sure what year it was, 1977 or 1978, and it took a good half hour of research to confirm it was indeed 1977 as it had sat in my 'undated folder' since it was first scanned.
An email to Bell and Colvill in the UK was sent yesterday, to try and date a pic of their BRM - which hopefully, will also enable me to date several other pics from that race meeting and move them out of that 'in limbo' folder. The research and detective work can be very time consuming just to try and avoid errors, but alas, sometimes, a lot of work leads to dead-ends and zero responses, which is very frustrating.
Modern digital is easy, but the internet/Google doesn't always come up with the answers.
I'm sorry if you want more on every pic, but it isn't going to happen anytime soon. I'm still cataloguing the film negatives most of which haven't yet been scanned, and I'm up to 12,000 so far - admittedly, that includes family and work pics.
Roger Dowding
11-12-2016, 08:34 AM
The Ellerslie dates may or may not be correct...
Five years on and Garrat's Riley is there again...
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ERC, Mark Donaldson's BN2 Healey 100 a 1956 model i note the left wing mirror is missing, just the post .. and in the previous sets the Riley LH1936, that turned up at an AHCCNZ Hillclimb in the mid 1980's complete with some advertising .. took a couple of photos on my Healey thread
As mentioned earlier, buses and commercials from the recent trip.
The London bus museum is located at Brooklands
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Goodwood's Wembly parade
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Coventry Transport museum with a locally built Daimler. Daimler were very prolific bus builders in the UK and I'm not sure whether they came under the BL wing along with the cars. Of all the vehicles I have driven, I'd still love to have ago in a separate cab double decker to fulfil an ambition! I've driven most things, from trucks to motorbikes, Aston Martin to Formula Ford, vintage MG to Reliant 3 wheeler, Marcos LM500 racer to a NZ train (honest!), but never a double decker bus.
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I think this group is from 1985 but I haven't confirmed the exact dates, so any confirmation would be appreciated. As these haven't been dated, the file name is only temporary, so my normal labelling rules can't apply.
This could even be as late as 1989 given the Lyle & Scott branding. Rob Walters Lotus 23. I presume this is a genuine Lotus 23? Note the earth banking as track construction is one of the guides for dating.
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Probably Tony Roberts, on the no longer used club track extension.
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I doubt anyone needs this captioning.
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Cooper Bristol of course and again, no fixed date.
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More from the undated folder
Is this a Ralph Watson car? Not sure at all, but others will know.
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Probably one of the first events I organised in NZ, along with MGCC President Derek Prior (on the radio) was a series of sprint meetings at Pukekohe. I had been less than impressed with MGCC hill-climb meetings, where hours were wasted, running cables for electronic timing and/or telephones. Unlike a serious championship where timing to 1000th of a second might be crucial, club events weren't as critical, nor was there a real need for a telephone system.
I worked out that we could run two sprints at a time at Pukekohe using about a quarter of the track and using a 3-2-1 countdown over radio, and stop watches at the finish, setting cars off at about 10 or 15 second intervals, then after the finish line, they'd slow down and join the queue for the next one, before queuing up again for part 1. After a short lunch-break, we ran the cars in the opposite direction, giving us 4 circuits. A laptop and a printer meant results issued immediately afterwards. I think we had 600 runs through by 3pm.
When AHCC handed over Otaua hillclimb to MGCC, I ran the same system there. Radios and results issued immediately. Remember that in those days, results for hill-climbs were usually printed the week after.
This is Harley Norager in his MG BV8 and the first to break the ERC Speedbar at Manfeild and Pukekohe! The car is now owned and raced by Dave Mallin. We started the sprint part 1 from pit lane, so the exit was the current pit lane entry and the sprint finished some way after the hairpin. The second sprint started before railway and used the old, short link to the club circuit and back to the main track, finishing before what is normally pit exit.
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Morgan and Triumph V8 regulars with young Bill Hewson (Alfa) far left.
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chaindrive
11-14-2016, 10:34 PM
Yes...... Ralph Watson BSA Front Drive Special
Thanks chaindrive.
The first pic here is from an excellent website covering race programme covers. It does help a lot and although I have managed one or two programmes from this era, having the actual Pukekohe programmes would be fantastic. If anyone is having a clearout and dumping theirs, I'd be happy to acquire them! Pukekohe only from January 1983 to about April 1991 and Whenuapai 1984.
The programme website does not have a full set (see the pic to see the gaps) and relies totally on contributions from interested supporters.
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These are obviously from the same meeting as the Cooper Bristol posted earlier. Judging by the cars parked in the background, quite possibly, a higher profile meeting.
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Someone will be able to identify this car for me! BCM maybe - based on pics taken much later at Hampton Downs? Seems it had a tragic history as the following extract from the interweb shows.
"But for the tragic death of Nelson motor racing driver, Brian Mabey, the two-day programme of the Nelson Car Club on the Tahuna circuit, would have been an unqualified success. Mabey lost his life when his B. C. M. Special overturned during the fifth lap of the 12-lap provincial championship on the first day."
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Note the pink paddock pass on the belt of the guy leaning in, on the last pic. Sadly, even at 400%, I can't read it well enough.
Milan Fistonic
11-15-2016, 06:56 AM
Looks like this is the Historic Race at the 1985 Nissan Sport Meeting. Car No 15 does match with the programme but Chris Read owns the BCM so he must have run that instead of the Lotus 20.
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Milan, you are a real star. Thanks very much for that. Confirms what I expected. Looking at the bottom of that list, the only person I don't know from that section is Graham Kyle. Several other well known names in that list, but also cars I can't remember seeing, specifically numbers 25 and 26.
Alas, film and associated processing costs often limited what could be snapped, so my memory could be playing up too.
Milan Fistonic
11-15-2016, 08:49 AM
I think this group is from 1985 but I haven't confirmed the exact dates, so any confirmation would be appreciated. As these haven't been dated, the file name is only temporary, so my normal labelling rules can't apply.
This could even be as late as 1989 given the Lyle & Scott branding. Rob Walters Lotus 23. I presume this is a genuine Lotus 23? Note the earth banking as track construction is one of the guides for dating.
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Probably Tony Roberts, on the no longer used club track extension.
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I doubt anyone needs this captioning.
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...or this
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Cooper Bristol of course and again, no fixed date.
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The Group A cars and the Cooper Bristol are from 1985.
The Lotus 23B is from 1987.
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Thanks again. The D type and Talbot Lago locks the dates pretty well for several photographs and I'm sure Roddy McPherson's car was not a sports car!
Another mix... Apologies if any have been shown before.
At the 1977 British Grand Prix, Barry Sheene interviewing Niki Lauda with British boxer 'Enery Cooper looking on. I hadn't intended going to this race, but a buddy rang me a day or so before pleading with me to take a young lady employee or work mate of his, to the event. The attraction was that the young lady's uncle was something to do with the advertising hoardings at the track and we had admission not just to the race, but to a hospitality suite, on the edge of pit lane.
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Regular sprinter David Render was a good buddy of Colin Chapman's, hence the loan of this F1 Lotus - for a 900 yard sprint...
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No doubt Roger will know the exact date of this Le Mans race especially as it looks like Frank Karl. I believe it was 1984, but I could be wrong. The exact date would be useful.
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Another page of programmes from the website.
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Paul Leuch with the Lister Jaguar 1987.
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Needs no caption, but for Terry's benefit, Martin Morris in the D type!
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VCC member Kevin Andrew and fellow NSCC flaggie at the time, managed to sell me this Singer Bantam 'project' back in 1988 but it wasn't long before I realised I didn't have the expertise to make any progress. I managed to sell it some time later (at a small profit I might add) and it was shipped off to Waiheke. I have no idea what happened to it. There is a Bantam in the Classic museum at Hamilton. but I have no idea whether or not it is the same one.
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As mentioned earlier, the Singer in the Coventry museum isn't the coupe version. This is. Quite a shock to see this in Fremantle - even more so when I found that it belonged to the guy I was looking up, as he had a Marcos Volvo like mine! He had an amazing collection of about 14 cars including MG's, an Alfa, a couple of Fiat Multiplas and a very nice Riley Kestrel.
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I caught up with Rob again only last year and the Singer was for sale at $40,000AUD.
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Earlier, I mentioned the picture quality from the earliest digital camera available to the public, a Casio. Very expensive (as all new technology is) and it put me off using digital for years. The novelty of digital was fine, but I wish now I hadn't spent $2,500 on a Pentax SLR camera and lenses... The 1996 Goodwood Festival of Speed and I think I was juggling one camera with slides, one with film and the digital...
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Haynes Motor Museum, taken in 2014. Well worth a visit if you are heading to Cornwall from the London area. I posted a load of pics from there in 2014 and this to me is just is just a group of American cars...
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1989 - I think
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Denny Hulme and David Lange. Flagging at the Pukekohe hairpin when Lange was driving, I remember all the flaggies, regardless of their political leanings, giving him a huge standing ovation on his slowing down lap.
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Flagging wasn't confined to Pukekohe... A bit of stage marshalling wasn't unusual. I'm not sure of the date again, but it was probably Riverhead.
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I have no idea when or where or why, but I think a Hans Compter Jowett, that may have raced at the Whangarei street race January 2000. This may have been some sort of motor show in the Auckland region, possibly Henderson way, but before January 2000.
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A track day at Donington July 2002. A Lagonda (what a great name for a car!) I always popped down to the track after a museum visit and occasionally, it really was worthwhile.
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Spgeti
11-18-2016, 11:55 PM
The Jowett is Hans Compter's car Ray. I am very lucky to have been for a ride in it circa 1986 with his old friend Vern Fairbrother.
I think this was one of the cars that raced at Le Mans. Cheers, Bruce
AMCO72
11-19-2016, 04:30 AM
The Jowett Jupiter competed at LeMans in 1950 and 51. Won its class both years.....16th overall 1950 and 22nd overall in 51. It never competed in the body shape of the Compter car.
From the Interweb:
Stabilimenti Farina built four FHC Jupiters, and they all survive. Three are in excellent order, the fourth is under restoration
The maroon example was Marcel Becquart's Monte Carlo Rally entrant of 1952 and 1953.
His Class 2nd overall 5th in the1952 event is Jowetts best placing in this rally.
Andrew Metford
11-19-2016, 02:56 PM
Ray, in post 1151, the 3rd picture, E Type Jaguar #33, is that the guy from Whangerai who went in Targa NZ and had some monumental "offs" a few years in a row? Malcolm someone? Had a female co-driver from memory?
Steve Holmes
11-19-2016, 11:06 PM
Another mix... Apologies if any have been shown before.
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Another page of programmes from the website.
Whose is the blue E Type?
Autopia
11-20-2016, 01:07 AM
Whose is the blue E Type?
Malcolm Flynn. He was always pretty quick.
Andrew Metford
11-20-2016, 08:23 AM
This is Harley Norager in his MG BV8 and the first to break the ERC Speedbar at Manfeild and Pukekohe! The car is now owned and raced by Dave Mallin. We started the sprint part 1 from pit lane, so the exit was the current pit lane entry and the sprint finished some way after the hairpin. The second sprint started before railway and used the old, short link to the club circuit and back to the main track, finishing before what is normally pit exit.
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Looks like Mr Mallin in the passengers' seat?, getting an early feel for the car?
Waitemata VCC's annual Chelsea Hillclimb. Numbers don't seem to be growing.
Stanford Special
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MG C Type - not to be confused with an MGC...
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Roycroft Bugatti-Jaguar - driven with great verve I might add, as were one or two others with an excess of power.
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Buckler
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I don't think a caption is required for ID purposes, but this Mini was also being driven hard.
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*Website is playing up today... Attachments disappearing again and have to be reloaded.*
Not so much for the car, but the background. The Chelsea Sugar Works grounds have to be one of my favourite places on the North Shore.
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The Satellite Special ran out of fizz on this run.
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Ian manages to compete and video the event!
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Colourful Briggs Mercury Special
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The well campaigned Alfriston Jaguar Special. One of the things I enjoy about period motoring is the proliferation of 'Specials'. Sadly, MSNZ regulations relating to classics, seem to be totally biased against a modern day period saloon special, even if built out of period parts.
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The missing pics from the above post now added. Hopefully they won't disappear this time.
The C type Jaguar replica was another car driven hard and sounding good.
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Kevin's Wolseley Hornet special.
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The BSA special as mentioned in an earlier post not only went well, but sounded fantastic and very, very smooth.
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The Alfa was another being driven briskly.
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This lovely Riley (Kestrel?) wasn't competing but came up the hill during a break.
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Always nice to see Peter Morelli's thundering Bentley.
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The number plate and chosen race number often tells the story. 1932 Sunbeam.
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Some of the cars had insufficient power to display any real drama but great to see anyway.
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This run of Roger's in the A40 special was affected by gear selection issues.
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An MG stalwart in a Lotus 11 replica.
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The Satellite Special going much better on this run. I was only there for two runs and several cars only ran once.
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A lone Buckler this year.
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I only saw the Chevrolet do 1 run.
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Bugatti three wheeling.
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I don't think the Riley Moth did the second run whilst I was there, but it is still one of my favourite cars. (Riley with a Gypsy Moth aero engine.)
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Roger Dowding
11-22-2016, 08:56 AM
The missing pics from the above post now added. Hopefully they won't disappear this time.
The C type Jaguar replica was another car driven hard and sounding good.
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Kevin's Wolseley Hornet special.
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The BSA special as mentioned in an earlier post not only went well, but sounded fantastic and very, very smooth.
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The Alfa was another being driven briskly.
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This lovely Riley (Kestrel?) wasn't competing but came up the hill during a break.
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Always nice to see Peter Morelli's thundering Bentley.
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That Riley is a well known car I have photos of it back in the late 60's early 70's at a couple of Vintage Car events .. must show my Uncle Eddie Dowding, will be seeing him next week .. will save it to my PC and show him !! cheers Ray, Roger
PS The BSA LX5500 .. that was Ralph Watson's ?? ..
Hi Roger, yes, the BSA Special is the ex Ralph Watson car.
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Last from this event. Congratulations to the Waitemata VCC for another interesting event in such picturesque surroundings and to Chelsea Sugar Works for allowing the use of their road.
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Back to the Hampton Downs 101 meeting.
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Incorrectly labelled Holden! This is a Ford... Thanks to an alert regular who pointed out my error!39570
Last race meeting of the year (for me) and I was only there for practice and race 1. TACCOCS' Spring meeting at Pukekohe, November 27th. Still coming to terms with the new camera's settings...
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Dratted pics keep disappearing again... I click on 'edit post', click 'save' and they reappear, only to disappear again if returning to the board.... Giving up tonight. Will try again Monday...
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Bryce Platt's new ride
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...and the prize for the tallest roll bar goes to...
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Note Wendy is 3 wheeling in the background!
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The Bolton Mercedes was just one of several cars having trouble negotiating this complex.
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Last set of pics for a while - off overseas for a couple of weeks, but unless I can get to the Petersen Museum, no more new pics this year and too busy to scan all the old stuff, though I might dredge up one or two scanned previously now and again. Time to do the annual back ups though.
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Computer back ups done, but still a pile of scanned images that need accurately dating! A mix here from early and recent as I load up the folder for posting to TRS!
Mallory Park 1974. I used to park myself at the hairpin exit all day as it was the only place on the circuit where you could use an old manual camera with a standard lens (ie no telephoto or long lens. Not even a range finder and no light meter. If only....)
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May 1984 I believe.
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I have this as possibly December 16th 1984 - but could be wrong. It might well be October 1984.
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Jaguar at the Goodwood motorshow 2016.
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Yes, well. London Motor Museum 2016
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PS: This replaces the Brooklands pic which I think I'd already posted.
Back to 1984, Pukekohe.
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Can someone please identify the white car?
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Part of the Goodwood Festival of Speed (2002) was for these downhill racers. A far cry from the original soap box carts.
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Not everything in the London Car Museum was customised or of questionable taste.
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Steve Holmes
12-19-2016, 08:21 PM
Computer back ups done, but still a pile of scanned images that need accurately dating! A mix here from early and recent as I load up the folder for posting to TRS!
Mallory Park 1974. I used to park myself at the hairpin exit all day as it was the only place on the circuit where you could use an old manual camera with a standard lens (ie no telephoto or long lens. Not even a range finder and no light meter. If only....)
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This photo fascinates me. I guess these are Special Saloons Ray? The Mustang and Falcon Sprint are two old relics from the 1960s Group 5 era, now heavily modified in an attempt to remain comptitive. The Falcons were dominant in the British Saloon Car Championship in Group 5 because of their impossibly light homologation weight, which from memory was about 960kg. By chance would you happen to know who is driving the cars in the photo?
Car #4 Malcolm Stevens Ford Falcon 4727cc
Car #7 A R Nash's Ford Mustang 7000cc (driven by Tony Rosen)
Car #9 Bob Fox Clubman T/C 1299cc
car #10 Freddy Heaney Motorspeed Mini 1293cc
Steve Holmes
12-21-2016, 01:31 AM
Thanks Ray. I wonder if they still exist.
Rod Grimwood
12-22-2016, 03:18 AM
notice on description it says Corvette, it is actually John Windleburn in his home built Trans Am that he ran in Sports Sedans back in the mid to late 80's car had alot of potential and was nice build.
The white car looks to be a Cooper but whereas many of them ran with a Manx Norton engine, this one appears from the signage and a glimpse of the head to have a 500 JAP speedway single fitted.
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A few more from the 'should post on TRS' folder. October 28th 2016
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Another Mix
Brendan Dugan being overtaken by the Ray Smith/Denny Hulme Commodore, Pukekohe B & H October 1984. Note the excellent spectator spots!
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I originally dated these 2 as December, but probably should also be October 1984.
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'Le Mans' Competitors, January 1985
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Maserarri, January 1994. What happened to this car?
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Grant Ellwood
12-23-2016, 11:54 PM
Apparently restored and in storage in Auckland, was for sale a couple of years ago. I enquired about the price and think it was circa $80,000. A nice piece of history showing Graham McRae's early engineering talent
Where was the photo of the white car taken Ray? In NZ or the UK?
The front end with it's transverse leaf spring and uprights looks very much like a Cooper 500 EXCEPT it has what appears to be coilovers as well (not usual on Coopers). The rear looks to be a swing axle arrangement characteristic of Kiefts.
Chelsea Hillclimb 1993! As no programme is produced, it is often down to Waitemata VCC members to fill in the gaps for me. Back then, it was a more raucous affair than it is today. Now, we can hardly hear the competitors, even though we are only a couple of streets away, as the crow flies.
I'm sure there are VCC members who know the car and all I really need is a make, otherwise it is destined for the non-classified folder forever.
Having a break from scanning old stuff (negatives and slides) at the moment and I doubt I will ever get them all done, given how long it takes.
A random dip as I try and refine the library and clear out some of the duplicates - a never ending task.
To celebrate my much loved father who passed away December 27th 1989. Another of his 'Merit' construction kits. I think he just polished the plastic on this one, rather than paint. Remember back then it was slow drying brushed Humbrol enamel paints rather than spray cans.
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Goodwood Festival of Speed, 2002. It has always been a feature of the Festival that a selection of F1 cars attend and Honda certainly supported the event.
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The beautiful Eagle photographed in the Donington collection. I have no idea if it is still there as so many cars have been sold off. By the looks of this pic, it is the pre Weslake V12, Climax powered car.
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The famous recreation of the shark nose Ferrari. Such a shame that all the originals were deliberately destroyed on the instructions of Enzo.
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Back to Hampton Downs for the 2011 Festival... Apologies if I have posted these before.
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So good to see the F1 Amon on track.
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Not a Grand Prix racer! 1993 Chelsea Hillclimb again. I am amazed at the variety of Austin 7 based specials in NZ. This one begs a witty caption...
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Villeneuve - but this is junior - and a picture that required climbing up a fence to poke the camera through the chicken wire, at the private Ferrari test track. Only in Italy would the police be on hand to control the traffic, as 100's of locals (and NZ visitors) tried to get a glimpse of this familiarisation session.
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Our allocated seating for the 2012 Monaco event was down at the front, right behind the wire fence, as cars approached the swimming pool. A terrible place for taking photographs, so we all decamped to the top, rear of the stand, and by standing on the rear seats, looking backwards, I was able to get some of the best pics I have ever taken, but there was only a very short gap between the trees, and cars going past the finishing line at a fair old lick.
I only had the long lens with me so getting the whole car into the shot required panning very quickly.
1954 Lancia Marino
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Maserati 6CM/4CM
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Talbot-Lago
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Fast Forward to Chris Watson's Gardos, I think his debut event with the car in 2015.
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chaindrive
12-30-2016, 11:39 PM
Love those Merit models
Leftovers from October!
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Another of Dad's Merit kits. As I recall, the basic Airfix car kit was 2/-, the Merit kits were a whopping 7/6. I think the super kits, with engine detail might have been more. Well out of my price range at the time. I have enjoyed the Tamiya kits though, especially the Jaguar Mk2, with the incredible transfers for the 'walnut' dash.
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Chelsea Hillclimb again (2016), with a couple of the stalwarts. John Hartle (pic 1), ace restorer of motorbikes, also rebuilt the steel chassis of Sean Bainbridge's Marcos V6.
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Another mix as I try and tidy the library which means being a bit more ruthless...
Muller at Donington 1938 - probably posted before!
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Demo run at the 2012 Monaco meeting
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Part of the Stirling Moss tribute 2009 at Goodwood
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Sliverstone 1973
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Another interesting car from the Donington collection. I have no idea if it is still there. Front wheel drive Derby Maserati.
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The Begg fitted with the Daimler V8 in 2007. This car is currently for sale on Trade Me.
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Jo Bonnier at Silverstone 1963 - another of dad's pics before he let me loose with either my own camera (an Ilford Advocate that was notoriously unreliable...) or later, his Leica.
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The Annual Bugatti/Ferrari Prescott hillclimb at the end of May, which I would love to have gone to more than twice. HWM Jaguar.
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Museo Ferrari in Maranello 2012
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One of the Rush family's well known cars.
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Just scanned these. Pukekohe 1983 and 1984. Sorry, no race programme and dates are therefore provisional. Any confirmation or additional info welcomed, especially the identification of single seaters.
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Milan Fistonic
01-07-2017, 12:39 AM
It would appear that the last lot of photos you posted are from the December 11, 1983 meeting.
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seaqnmac27
01-07-2017, 04:07 AM
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With one exception Milan
Thanks Milan. Where would I be without your accurate inputs. That takes care of the last 3 pics of that set anyway.
Milan Fistonic
01-07-2017, 07:43 AM
Just scanned these. Pukekohe 1983 and 1984. Sorry, no race programme and dates are therefore provisional. Any confirmation or additional info welcomed, especially the identification of single seaters.
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The Mini 7 in this shot is Sel Melville's and it was sponsored by Graeme Lawrence Tryes. It ran as number 8 in the 1982-83 season. I have it in programmes for Dec 82 and Mar 83. Were you at either of those meetings? My NZGP programmes are still in storage so I can't check the 82 GP meeting.
I have that pic as March 5th 1983, which I think was a reunion meeting of some sort. Maybe celebrating 30 years of Pukekohe or 30 years since the end of Ardmore? I arrived in NZ January 17th 1983...
The Formula Pacific has a Canadian flag on it but I'm not such what make of car it is! Ralt?
Grant Ellwood
01-08-2017, 12:49 AM
I have that pic as March 5th 1983, which I think was a reunion meeting of some sort. Maybe celebrating 30 years of Pukekohe or 30 years since the end of Ardmore? I arrived in NZ January 17th 1983...
The Formula Pacific has a Canadian flag on it but I'm not such what make of car it is! Ralt?
Allen Berg RT4?
Michael Clark
01-08-2017, 01:26 AM
Yes - Berg was sponsored by Strata. I guess it was a Canadian company and I have a feeling they may have still been with him when he broke into F1 with Osella about 1987.
Berg looked good out here in Atlantics in January 1983 and so I expected good things when I turned up for the opening round of the British F3 Championship in early March - but there were a couple of guys called Senna and Brundle who looked handy while in any other year, Davy Jones would have shone.
Milan Fistonic
01-08-2017, 03:19 AM
I have that pic as March 5th 1983, which I think was a reunion meeting of some sort. Maybe celebrating 30 years of Pukekohe or 30 years since the end of Ardmore? I arrived in NZ January 17th 1983...
The Formula Pacific has a Canadian flag on it but I'm not such what make of car it is! Ralt?
This is the meeting at which Jensen demonstrated the 8CLT.
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The Berg RT4 is in the colours and sponsorship with which it raced in the 1983 International Series but it had the number 4 for all the races.
Thanks again Milan. Confirms the date. With the (cost) limitations of film, I didn't take as many as I would have liked and some, sadly, are out of focus and not worth showing on here.
Incidentally, Don White with the Sizaire-Naudin, (he actually had 2 of them) lived opposite the top of our cul-de-sac and the thump, thump, thump as he trundled down the street always brought me to the roadside. He also had the maroon Allard and a gold coloured Rolls Silver Shadow.
Quite a few names I got to know over later years, including Richard Baker (MGA) who sold us our first MG Montego and was another North Harbour Badminton rep player. I think he also sold us our third Freelander.
Frosty5
01-08-2017, 08:29 AM
Thanks again Milan. Confirms the date. With the (cost) limitations of film, I didn't take as many as I would have liked and some, sadly, are out of focus and not worth showing on here.
Incidentally, Don White with the Sizaire-Naudin, (he actually had 2 of them) lived opposite the top of our cul-de-sac and the thump, thump, thump as he trundled down the street always brought me to the roadside. He also had the maroon Allard and a gold coloured Rolls Silver Shadow.
Quite a few names I got to know over later years, including Richard Baker (MGA) who sold us our first MG Montego and was another North Harbour Badminton rep player. I think he also sold us our third Freelander.
There are some great nameson that register, including Jim Short!!!
seaqnmac27
01-08-2017, 12:55 PM
Yes - Berg was sponsored by Strata. I guess it was a Canadian company and I have a feeling they may have still been with him when he broke into F1 with Osella about 1987.
Berg looked good out here in Atlantics in January 1983 and so I expected good things when I turned up for the opening round of the British F3 Championship in early March - but there were a couple of guys called Senna and Brundle who looked handy while in any other year, Davy Jones would have shone.
Berg replaced Danner at Osella after Danner was drafted into Arrows after Marc Surer's horrific rallying crash which killed his co driver. That was 86.
Berg was #4
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seaqnmac27
01-08-2017, 02:50 PM
He was however #8 in the Lawrence RT4 in the Australian GP in early Feb 83, here about to lap Mike Rosen
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Scanned a few negs before going out for the usual brunch...
Mallory Park September 1970, Brian Toft's ANCO monoposto. Beautifully presented.
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Maybe blue and yellow was the colour combination of the day.
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Prescott May 1970
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Dave Whitehead graduated from a Ford Escort to this very potent Reliant Kitten. Dave very kindly let me a have a short drive of his MG Magna - which was a challenge, as the gear-change layout wasn't the usual one.
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Back to the Pukekoke meeting March 5th 1983. The days when you could see the cars without the concrete and wire fencing. I wonder if those safety measures are part of the reasons for a drop in spectator numbers? Looks like Chris Atkinson and Barry Phillips in the Lotus Cortinas.
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The first 2 are from colour slides, the remainder from negatives.
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Rob Douglas with his Daimler SP250. Rob went on to Targa and race a V8 Morgan.
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I'm guessing this is Peter Benbrook, with the Ford Mercury Special, based on Milan's useful programme scan.
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Marsden Robinson's Morgan. Anyone else remember his hilarious crew briefings for the Le Mans?
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Roger Dowding
01-12-2017, 09:03 AM
The first 2 are from colour slides, the remainder from negatives.
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Rob Douglas with his Daimler SP250. Rob went on to Targa and race a V8 Morgan.
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I'm guessing this is Peter Benbrook, with the Ford Mercury Special, based on Milan's useful programme scan.
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Marsden Robinson's Morgan. Anyone else remember his hilarious crew briefings for the Le Mans?
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Great shots Ray and some well known cars, thanks.. remember the Lotus XI from my AHCCNZ Otaua HillClimb days in the 1980's :
My first ever visit to Pukekohe and as a guess, February 6th 1983. I have no details of drivers. Would appreciate the makes of the single seaters.
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Riley Elf with a Mini front end! Shame.
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Milan Fistonic
01-12-2017, 10:19 PM
That was a Club Circuit meeting and I don't have the programme. The single-seaters have permanent numbers so they should be the same cars that ran in the 27 March meeting.
18 - Keith Sharp - Titan Mk 6C
29 - Keith Beck - Rolt
Thanks Milan. Titan looks to be correct, but #29, I hadn't even heard of Rolt before! There again, my knowledge of F Vee is almost non-existent.
You learn something new every day - or should.
Just a few from Saturday, Hampton Downs Tasman Revival 2017
John proudly poses with the Algie memorial trophy - and the Monaro of course.
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Chris Chiles Lotus Elan. (Is this the ex Noel Woodford car?)
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Adrian Reynard - what a coup getting him here to race!
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A new coat of paint for the Thunderbird? No! See post #1220.
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Dreossi Special from Canada.
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Nigel Russell, Stanguellini - who maybe should have known that Jim Barclay already has #25!
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Michael's car photographs well!
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Four on the floor
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Three on the floor. Previous owner Foggy, was around with nothing to drive, just a few minutes before this was taken.
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Different three on the floor.
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Driver on the floor, whilst Frosty audits.
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I enjoy the Pre-65 grid as they manage to cope with different classes and always, a good variety of cars
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The programme says 1966 Ford GT40. Replica or real?
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Rod Grimwood
01-14-2017, 11:16 PM
That was a Club Circuit meeting and I don't have the programme. The single-seaters have permanent numbers so they should be the same cars that ran in the 27 March meeting.
18 - Keith Sharp - Titan Mk 6C
29 - Keith Beck - Rolt
Keith had a couple of the Titans and ran a driving school at puke for a couple of years.
Rod Grimwood
01-14-2017, 11:20 PM
These are from club curcuit back in early 83, I had just put new engine in Angle Box, there was a couple of black minis with big flares, and they were pretty quick. good fun times at club curcuit.
PS that is not engine smoke in 1st photo
Jac Mac
01-15-2017, 03:49 AM
ref post #1215, The Red GT40 is an ERA Replica ( Mono Chassis ) owned/raced by Anthony Leighs, Canterbury. Car was previously owned by Grant Aitken, Queenstown/Cromwell prior to getting the McLaren/Amon tribute Mk2 built.
Thanks Jac Mac. I suspected it was a replica, otherwise there would have been a big song and dance about it, but it always pays to check first, whenever possible. Nice to see though, and I have no problem with replicas, just as long as they are entered as such. The race entry system relies totally on drivers putting in the correct information and I for one would appreciate it if the entry had (R) afterwards.
In years to come (even now!) race programmes are a valuable resource for historians - and nothing is more annoying than someone pointing out your mistake AFTER you had done all your research.
nigel watts
01-15-2017, 06:44 AM
Ray, The Thunderbird is the 2nd one in the Pre 65's. It's driven by Stuart Crosby, ex Mayor of Tauranga.
Thanks Nigel. I wasn't sure if it was the same car or not. Obviously not! I have to say that I do admire drivers who can cope with such huge cars. I'm not a real fan of Americana as most will have realised by now, but there are exceptions and they tend to be the more unlikely competition cars.
A DJ protégé?
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Until I read the programme, I assumed this was a Beattie/Redline, but in the programme as "Thompson Special".
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Reynard Formula Atlantic
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Geoff Harriman's well campaigned Ralt RT20
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Lotus 18 - with an interesting roll cage arrangement.
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Tony Olissoff out in his Brabham, rather than the FJ or the Alfa Sud.
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seaqnmac27
01-16-2017, 02:16 AM
This is the meeting at which Jensen demonstrated the 8CLT.
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The Berg RT4 is in the colours and sponsorship with which it raced in the 1983 International Series but it had the number 4 for all the races.
I have the answer Milan, as per the AGP photo, where he was #8, this would be on return.
I have somewhere a photo from NZMN of the Deighton Wolseley at a Manfield long distance race
Last few samples from Saturday. One or two of these are currently for sale. I haven't relabelled these as yet, but I'm sure that shouldn't be too much of a problem for most.
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Chris Watson's Gardos F5000 with some appropriate signage.
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John McKechnie
01-16-2017, 07:36 AM
1- Mum Jen leading son Ben - Mossman family fun in HSS, last one home does the vacuuming !!!!
2-Craig Horn- fastest non-V8 in HMC with quite a few V8s behind him, go Torrie go............
Plus one... Sorry John, I hadn't studied the programme...
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John McKechnie
01-16-2017, 08:19 AM
Yep and with Dr John Eliott there next weekend the Terrific Trio Team Torrie will be complete, all wearing period correct Hot Wires.....may arrange a troika photo session for the Holden fans if asked.
As is often the case, late entries that appear on track but not in the programme, are a major frustration. I wonder if these drivers understand how much extra work and frustration is generated by entering late and not appearing in the programme and officials' paperwork? Far better for drivers to enter early and let the organisers know if they didn't finish a rebuild and have to withdraw the day before, as generally, they'll get a refund anyway.
The programme is a major reference document, certainly for me - and no doubt others on the periphery, so trying to label photographs accurately is occasionally made very difficult.
Although I recognise some cars or can even zoom in on a badge, there are others where I am not at all sure, so can someone in the Formula Ford fraternity please identify this first pic?
Make of car please. I am guessing Titan?
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I should have posted this earlier - James Watson (Chris Watson's son) also in the Formula Libre grid in a Swift DB4. James had a lot to do with setting up Hampton Downs and as I remember, produced a computer simulation of driving the track well before there was any sign of tarseal.
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Car 10 is an Elden PRH 10 Formula Ford driven (I think) by Ron Wilkin.
Car 10 is an Elden PRH 10 Formula Ford driven (I think) by Ron Wilkin.
Sorry RF84, car 10 (post #1222) is definitely Tony Olissoff's BT21 Brabham, wearing the Frank Williams insignia and was in the Formula libre grid.
Ron Wilkin's car is red and carries #72.
Ray, got confused with numbers. I meant car no 8, (post #1228).
Until I read the programme, I assumed this was a Beattie/Redline, but in the programme as "Thompson Special".
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I seem to recall this car racing in Australian Historics a few years back.
Sure I saw it at Lakeside in the nineties.
Any of you "dual Internationals" on here care to comment, and/or elaborate on its early history?
Ray Bell
01-19-2017, 09:11 PM
Not that I know anything about it, but it was a regular in Australian Historics.
I always assumed it was a Lola copy.
Dale Harvey
01-19-2017, 09:20 PM
I can't go back too far but it was owned and raced by Ray Kenny for quite a long time and it was bought by Barry Bates to replace his Lotus 15 that was sold to Rodger Wills in 2015. It is a copy of a Lola and was built by Hedley Thompson. Hence the name Thompson Special. It has a 1500 non crossflow Ford engine.
Dale.
Thanks, Ray and Dale.
It's a pretty little thing, as was the Lola.
Which is why, I'd thought, too, that it was a Lola copy when I first saw it in Historics, but I don't ever recall it "in era".
Perhaps it never raced at Lakeside or Surfers then, which were my primary haunts.
Does anyone know its year of origin and period competition history?
And Dale - is it now a New Zealand resident or just a sometime visitor?
A bit of variety from the Kenny Smith Festival, Hampton Downs January 2017.
First practice session and it was a tentative Formula Junior group trying out the new long rack for the first time, not helped by a slippery track - yet no-one fell off at the infamous 'Double B*****d. Mike Sexton's Stanguellini.
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Now and again, the colours just make the picture. Love this one.
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1939 Chevrolet Coupe - the most historic of the Historic Sports Sedans.
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Watching Michael Lyons (UK) was a real treat in practice as he was pushing the F1 Hesketh hard. As he already holds the lap record for the national track, (Lola F5000) I'd be most surprised if he didn't hold the record for the new International track by the end of this weekend!
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One of the last F1 BRMs, Peter Burson (NZ) in P207
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Andrew Fox is a welcome addition to the ERC grid with his Jensen Healey.
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James and Chris Watson - Swift and Gardos
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Nick Wilcox returns to the ERC fray with the ex-family MG Midget from years ago.
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Graeme Park is about to return to the HSS fray - with a little help from Foggy - with the injured Adrian Dobbe in the background, who also recruited Foggy, to take over the driving duties in the Viva.
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The Burson's other BRM - the P201. Who would have thought that these would both have ended up in NZ?
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Dale Harvey
01-20-2017, 10:16 PM
And Dale - is it now a New Zealand resident or just a sometime visitor?[/QUOTE]
The car and crew are over in NZ for 6 or 7 weeks. They will return when the race meetings are done.
Dale.
From Saturday. A fair bit of minor panel damage today in classes where it is least expected - but that is racing I suppose. Nice to catch up with one or two Roaring Season fans I'd never met before. Thanks for the kind words about this thread and great that so many seem to get some pleasure from it. Makes it all worthwhile.
Won't be there Sunday but no doubt others will fill in the gaps. At the moment, there is a howling gale up here, just north of the Auckland harbour bridge (Saturday night), so I hope it all clears up to give those attending tomorrow a real NZ summer day, not a UK one...
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These two cars are owned by local Formula Junior drivers...
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Roger Herrick's 'Herrick A40 Special' - he let Neil Tolich run it in the parade. Triumphs all with bonnets raised, was not a good time to take a group photograph.
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Roger Dowding
01-21-2017, 08:35 AM
Ray
Re ;Nice to catch up with one or two Roaring Season fans I'd never met before. Thanks for the kind words about this thread and great that so many seem to get some pleasure from it. Makes it all worthwhile.
It is indeed worthwhile, all your photos, i was invited to the meeting by John Bennoch [ of SPR models fame ] but was already back in the Land of OZ, however, next time in Auckland must catch up, as we stay in Chatswood with family, and I believe you are just around the corner, as it were !!
Keep up the great work
Definitely Roger!
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Phil Foulkes (NZ) assists with bleeding the brakes of Max Pegram's Gemini. Pity the race programme, this year didn't have country of origin of the drivers - or even the cc rating of the cars! With an international entry and many cars we don't see regularly, with a load of omissions, this is one area where the promoters need to lift their game. Hopefully, they'll listen and learn, but as yet, no details about 2018.
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So pleased to see Duncan Rabagliati out on track with his Alexis after last weekend's engine maladies. I first communicated with Duncan about 35 years ago, when he was using old race programmes to track the history of Grand Prix cars racing in the UK. He is the International guru and organiser of the FJ series and in the past, has specialised in collecting rather unusual or rare cars.
He was taking notes when the other group was racing and he'll probably need them, as he can't rely on the programme.
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Morris #1
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Morris #2
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Currently one of the fastest F5000 drivers, Alan Dunkley and the T332 HU42/2 Lola.
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Another late entry/programme omission. March.
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Talon MR1A driven by Grant Martin.
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Mike Sidgewick Trojan 101
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Can't very well not publish a pic of Kenny Smith's Lola at the meeting celebrating his amazing career.
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Steve Holmes
01-22-2017, 10:10 PM
Thanks Ray, outstanding images. I'm really enjoying them.
My pleasure Steve! Had a PM yesterday from someone in the UK setting up a website for Special Saloons and Modsports and he'd used one or two of my pics from here. I have given him permission to use them on his site which is as yet, in the early stages.
He also informed me that the pic of the Longton TVR (page 3 on here) had also been used on the cover of the TVR Club magazine.
To cut a short story short, I am now in touch with new owner of that TVR...
If anyone is interested in the UK scene for the heyday of Super Saloons (Mick Hill, Gerry Marshall etc.) and Modsports, add it to your favourites:
http://www.modbase.info/#
Steve Holmes
01-22-2017, 10:45 PM
Thats really cool Ray! Any chance the new owner of the TVR has sent you a photo of how the car looks today? Is it still being raced?
I stumbled recently upon that Modsports website a few weeks ago. Its good to see the growing interest in bringing these old monsters back to life. I know several have already been restored and running once more.
http://www.modbase.info/#/tvr-tuscan-v6s/4593446780
The car is now in Sussex (Arundel) so as we are pencilling in a visit to the Thursday of the Festival at Goodwood, I may be able to catch up with the owner.
khyndart in CA
01-25-2017, 02:01 AM
Ray,
I really enjoy the photos that you and Nigel etc. enter on TRS, especially as I can not be there in person these are a wonderful substitute.
I especially enjoyed the photo of the Jody Scheckter Trojan T 101. That is a car that was put together when I worked at Trojan Works and Jody would sling it around on the limit wherever he raced. It usually had number 0 when I saw him drive but also had number 2 as shown..
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Trojan T 101 in 1973.
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Ray's photo of Trojan T 101. Jan 1017
Thanks for the memories.
(Ken Hyndman )
Here you are Terry S, just for you. Starting to name and file another set of pictures from the weekend.
Just to explain part of my system, and mainly due to an upcoming project, I file each car by country, then make and maybe model.
The first three pictures I come across are these from the Formula libre grid:
Car number 4 - not in the programme
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Whoah! Another car number 4 - not in the programme either
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Car number 1. According to the programme, Poul Christie's McLaren M10B - which it quite plainly is not.
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And another - car 44 - Cheetah. Nope. I think not
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How about this one - car 35 - BRM. Nope, I do know my BRM's....
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Rather than being so critical about Nigel and myself not labelling our photographs for your benefit Terry, how about you do the research and confirm the make, model and year of car, capacity (cc) and in what country it was built - and the driver's name, as my Excel photographic database requires this information. (I also record the driver's date of birth where known!) It also helps if the car has changed driver in recent years so that there is a continuity of a specific car where I already have a previous pic.
For other observers, please don't fill in the gaps, as I'll happily wait and see how long it takes Terry to come up with the answers, as he really does believe it is so very easy and no more than laziness that we don't label them.
khyndart in CA
01-25-2017, 10:21 PM
Geez Ray I hope you won't tear into me for what I put in !
p.s. Mine is not laziness it is just what I can get away with while at my job !
(Ken H)
Ross Hollings
01-25-2017, 10:22 PM
You are such a shit stirrer Ray LOL. Fantastic photos from all concerned,we are so lucky to have you guys on board with TRS. Keep them coming,they are the highlight of my day.
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