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John McKechnie
09-13-2013, 11:57 PM
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Linz
09-14-2013, 01:39 AM
I would have thought with the work put into the Monaro Bill would have raced it for longer. Did you find any information on Denis Hamill who bought the Monaro from Bill Minty?.
Trade me is a good place to buy Monaro parts. I have bought a few Monaro parts here including a mint condition Bonnet.

John McKechnie
09-17-2013, 07:42 AM
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Barry
09-17-2013, 09:49 PM
Hi John, I found a team Cambridge decal inside a box I used as a fid to carry slot cars, you are more than welcome to it if I knew where to send it. Barry Leitch.

John McKechnie
09-17-2013, 10:09 PM
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rogered
09-17-2013, 10:49 PM
I remember Bill Minty had hohoho on its Monaro right rear bootlid............
Did you know what happened to Bruce Andersons HO, ..special reason for asking....

I do,:)
saw it about a year ago and its in grouse condition.

John McKechnie
09-18-2013, 12:16 AM
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rogered
09-18-2013, 12:51 AM
Rodger- I have information that Grady ended up with this car.The current owner contacted me. I am still trying to find the pic I had when Bruce spun the car at Puke, rego from that will confirm. Where did you see it?

Ill PM you

John McKechnie
09-18-2013, 03:05 AM
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Spgeti
09-18-2013, 03:12 AM
Wow John, what a great find and better than an old ciggy packet.

John McKechnie
09-18-2013, 10:34 AM
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Rod Grimwood
09-21-2013, 01:51 AM
Interesting photo, is that a promotional Monaro in background, looks like no flares etc.

Did the old girl run in Winfield colours, can not remember.

John McKechnie
09-21-2013, 02:34 AM
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Steve Holmes
09-21-2013, 09:34 PM
Looking at the tail lights of the Monaro in your photo Rod, it looks like an HT. Must have been a Winfield promo car.

GD66
09-21-2013, 10:24 PM
Or tow car.

Bruce302
09-23-2013, 06:36 AM
John, Tell us about this one,

http://i39.tinypic.com/2rcnz1t.jpg

John McKechnie
09-23-2013, 08:04 AM
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fullnoise68
09-23-2013, 11:03 PM
John, printing inks have what is called a PMS code, and paint has a paint code. If you take that decal to a good automotive paint retailer, they can scan it and mix the closest possible colours to it. That is your only real option.

Spgeti
09-23-2013, 11:20 PM
I agree, the scanners are just amazing John. Good Luck

Barry
09-24-2013, 06:17 AM
I have the ex Laffite Gitanes Ralt RT4 and when I was looking for paint colours I went to an enthusiastic paint supplier ( Motorsport Fan ) and he went back to the old formulas and hunted through them and found that it was painted in Gitanes corporate colours, maybe the Cambridge colours are corporate colours as well.

John McKechnie
09-24-2013, 09:09 AM
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Kiwiboss
09-24-2013, 09:44 AM
YOU HAVE A WIFE!! geee we'd did i go wrong!!:( (A big LOL)

Dale M

John McKechnie
09-24-2013, 10:23 PM
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Rod Grimwood
09-25-2013, 12:26 AM
You doing alright Dale, don't weaken now.

Oldfart
09-25-2013, 12:42 AM
Or as an old friend of mine once said "Why would I have a wife of my own when I can use everybody else's one".

John McKechnie
09-25-2013, 10:44 AM
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Spgeti
09-25-2013, 09:06 PM
That's really good news regarding the seats John. Nice to have those parts.

Linz
09-25-2013, 09:18 PM
Hi John, That's a good price for your hK steering wheel, I see rare spares have them for over $700, Is the HT Steering wheel the same as the HK, With my wheel it has been fixed as the plastic is cracked and has been filled in, Look bad, Cheers

John McKechnie
09-25-2013, 11:04 PM
Linz- HK always has this woodgrain effect. Do you remember how we met through that Bathurst 350 motor- his was HT and had this wood type wheel.There is a second hand repaired one on trade me, but thats what it is- old and cracked . I got mine using evilbay from Big City Corvettes .

Ellis
09-25-2013, 11:21 PM
A story on HK steering wheels.......

When Beechey had his Warwick Yellow GTS 327 he came to Symmons when it was fairly new (3-4 months old) He related how he had ordered this "special" racing steering wheel from the States only to find when it arrived it was exactly the same as the standard GTS wheel already fitted.

This was at that meeting....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/Beechey327Symmons1969_zpsedd4dffb.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/Beechey327Symmons1969_zpsedd4dffb.jpg.html)

rogered
09-26-2013, 12:25 AM
Im not sure whos idea it was, to put that terrible and flimsy steering wheel on a performance car.

John McKechnie
09-26-2013, 02:44 AM
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John McKechnie
09-27-2013, 08:53 PM
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John McKechnie
09-28-2013, 02:00 AM
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Rod Grimwood
09-30-2013, 01:16 AM
I would like to contact the Spears who had Laurie Spears, Spears Racing in the 70s- get more pix of the Monaro.
Used to be in Sandringham , I think
Does anyone have any leads here please?


Yep, if you venture up to Waipu you will find Mr Graham Spears having a cool one at the local most afternoons and definately on Saturday.

Try ph 09 432 0212
4 The Braigh Waipu

John McKechnie
09-30-2013, 02:23 AM
Rod, my man, congratulations on this lead. Who dont you know?

Steve Holmes
09-30-2013, 02:42 AM
A story on HK steering wheels.......

When Beechey had his Warwick Yellow GTS 327 he came to Symmons when it was fairly new (3-4 months old) He related how he had ordered this "special" racing steering wheel from the States only to find when it arrived it was exactly the same as the standard GTS wheel already fitted.

This was at that meeting....

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/falcongtho/Beechey327Symmons1969_zpsedd4dffb.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/falcongtho/media/Beechey327Symmons1969_zpsedd4dffb.jpg.html)

This is such a cool photo!

Rod Grimwood
09-30-2013, 07:52 AM
Rod- rang and spike to Mr Graham Spears. He said he worked on the 4 cylinder- Sundeberg, Halliday etc.
Apparently a young chap called Randall Edgell held his hand up to work on the V8s then.
Randall was busy today, so I left a detailed message with Tim. Gave him a big congrats on his fine win yesterday.


Don't know if you ever meet Mr Spears, but he's still the same, last time I saw him, curly hair and all, he even had his little Escort van. easy go guy.

SPman
10-01-2013, 06:15 AM
How is Randall these days? One of the last times I saw him, he had just rebuilt the motor for my Fiat 500 in his folks garage.......

Rod Grimwood
10-01-2013, 09:14 AM
Randell is working on bigger engines at moment. Think he still has a wokshop in Wairau Rd (been there for years)

Steve Holmes
10-07-2013, 06:41 AM
Some more stunning Bill Pottinger photos of the Monaro at Wigram in 1970. I've also posted these on Bill's thread. Love the 'Beware Dog' decal on the door!

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John McKechnie
10-07-2013, 08:16 AM
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John McKechnie
10-09-2013, 07:20 AM
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Spgeti
10-09-2013, 08:23 AM
I have a few photos of that car taken about 2004 at a car show in Hawera. Still has the same plate and from memory the guy that owned it lived in the Wellington area. He knew its history but I don't know if who he stated that had raced was true.....Will talk to Garry when he returns from his holiday and confirm it with him. Ran a 350 LT1 and 12 bolt. Cheers

John McKechnie
10-17-2013, 10:00 PM
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Allan
10-18-2013, 02:41 AM
Same car? This is B & H 3 hour from 1971. The driver could be the late Tom Russell from Wellington although if some one has a program or results from that meeting the may like to confirm this for me.
Sorry for some reason I can't post the photo.
Steve if you have time could you post it from my CD.

Bruce302
10-22-2013, 05:58 AM
Here is a pic of the HT Monaro John was talking about that supposedly exited the track after spinning off at the hairpin, and drove back through the main gate. It's very hard to make out but it looks like it could be number 62.

http://i44.tinypic.com/9a011e.jpg

John McKechnie
10-22-2013, 06:13 AM
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John McKechnie
10-23-2013, 01:22 AM
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Bruce302
10-23-2013, 06:23 AM
The program I have is all promo and no entry or grid lists, that must have been a in a supplementary part.


Does anyone have the page from the program for the V8 saloons for the 1975 Grand Prix, also the results?

Bruce302
10-23-2013, 07:34 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/14xijh2.jpg

Spgeti
10-23-2013, 10:12 PM
What a cool photo

Milan Fistonic
10-23-2013, 10:24 PM
Does anyone have the page from the program for the V8 saloons for the 1975 Grand Prix, also the results?


The Race Card lists George Bunce (26) and Don Scott (19) as the only Monaro drivers in the BNSW races. Scott was also entered in the Castrol GTX race.

I could find no mention of Scott in the Motor Action report of the meeting.

Steve Holmes
10-23-2013, 10:35 PM
Don Scott would have been in an HQ Monaro, the ex-Neville Crichton Castrol GTX car.

Steve Holmes
10-23-2013, 10:35 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/14xijh2.jpg

Wow, that is really spectacular!

John McKechnie
10-24-2013, 05:05 AM
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Milan Fistonic
10-24-2013, 08:31 AM
And according to Motor Action it was George's first time out in the Monaro.

"Of interest in the 0-6000cc class were two other cars, both having appeared before but painted differently with different drivers. Robin Tanner apperared in the ex-Coppins Pontiac Firebird, now painted a deep rich red and looking very attractive. George Bunce turned up in the ex-Grady Thompson (and a few others) Mark One Holden Monaro - he had bought the body shell, and fitted a modded 350 cu in motor to it. Neither driver apperared in the first session so had their first taste of racing 500 horsepower saloons in the wet. With no history to assess times on, they both started at the back of the grid."

Linz
10-27-2013, 11:12 PM
Hi John, A quick question for you.
I have reset the rear leaf springs and put in new bushes on my HT Monaro. The leaf springs are held on with long U bolts , when I check the manual short nuts and bolts are used instead. I am guessing a previous owner had lowered the car so used the U bolts, there are no lowering blocks on the Monaro.
Did any Monaro's come out with U bolts?
Thanks Lindsay

Frosty5
10-28-2013, 05:49 AM
Just as an aside, 1969 HT GTS 350 Monaro recently sold at Shannons auctions for AUD$106,000. Could be hope for your dragster John!!!

Linz
10-28-2013, 08:19 AM
I am working the next 2 weekends. Not a bad investment if I can get The Monaro to double in value every 2 years. Looks like I will have to fit a Muncie as the Saginaw is making bad noises in First gear.

Mark Fiddyment
10-28-2013, 11:38 AM
Hi John, A quick question for you.
I have reset the rear leaf springs and put in new bushes on my HT Monaro. The leaf springs are held on with long U bolts , when I check the manual short nuts and bolts are used instead. I am guessing a previous owner had lowered the car so used the U bolts, there are no lowering blocks on the Monaro.
Did any Monaro's come out with U bolts?
Thanks Lindsay

The HK HT HG range all came with short bolts and nuts but what tended to happen is over time when driven hard they sometimes would fracture the spring perch or pull the welds off the axle tubes and offcourse the back end would drop the wheel arch down onto the tyre, so u bolts are not original but good insurance.

Linz
10-29-2013, 04:46 AM
Thanks Mark, I have already replaced the U-Bolts with 8.8 Grade Nuts & Bolts.
I will have to check the welds and see how they are. The Monaro has only covered 135K Miles so hopefully its ok.
But Bill Minty did a bit of racing in the Monaro so I better be careful.

Oldfart
11-06-2013, 06:10 PM
Dizzy's bowl is supposed to have a drain to outside the area where it is fitted so that any overflow drains. I love the thinking!

AMCO72
11-06-2013, 07:18 PM
I was thinking 'Dizzy' was that black wolf-hound displayed on your headup picture. Now we have an aerial view of 'Dizzy' and fuel-cell together, and he/she looks relatively harmless! What IS that black beast anyway????/ Looks like something you bought back in the Treka on one of your visits to Siberia!

By the way John, congrats on passing the 1000 postings.That is some effort. Still a wee way to go to catch Rod who has hit 2000!!!!!!!!!
Amazing........That deserves a chocolate fish for sure.

Oldfart
11-06-2013, 09:07 PM
John, in the manual 266 4.12D

Spgeti
11-07-2013, 12:23 AM
The true meaning of a mans best friend.....Dizzy giving you her bowl. She deserves a ride in the car John and at pace...

Grant Sprague
04-05-2014, 06:26 AM
Six piks up Fantastic capture ....some people will know this famous yump . wigram ..the old holden going over it looks like Grady,s head panel beating the roof from the inside ... [lose seat belts ??]

Spgeti
04-05-2014, 06:49 AM
Coming together very nicely John. Looking forward to seeing her on the track. Well done to date.

Grant Sprague
04-05-2014, 07:43 AM
LOL yea I scrolled up .... & it changed to a different page ....... you cant mistaken it probably a couple pages back John ..[this car is very light over it check it out ]

GD66
04-05-2014, 08:41 AM
24639

This one, presumably...

Grant Sprague
04-05-2014, 07:15 PM
24639

This one, presumably...
Thanks yep that's it

spinner32
04-07-2014, 02:08 AM
Thanks yep that's it

This is a very interesting photo from the point of view where it was taken. This is right outside the hanger where the hairpin was. You turned left, over the drains and back out onto the airfield about 10 metres past where this photo was taken. Normally you would be hard on the brakes here, trying not to slide down the off camber and keep it hard up against the hanger. I know that at one stage the hairpin used to be at the other end of #6 hanger (or where this photo was taken) , and they then had to return back up the other side of the drains to get out onto the airfield. I am not sure when that was. Even earlier there was just a S bend from outside the previous hanger and then straight out onto the airfield. I was based at Wigram from 1974 to 1992, and during this time they always had the short hairpin.
Normally photos taken near the hangers at Wigram are of cars coming around the Control Tower, where the off camber and bumps were really bad, so they wheels in the air and looked spectacular!!!
Pete B

Steve Holmes
04-14-2014, 04:16 AM
Time for an upgrade, more than 6 months have passed, now that all racing is over for the summer, back onto it.
Guess its a good time to post pics of all 2 corners as the main welding is done, and everything lines up.

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Wow, that is looking awesome John! Thanks for the updates.

Habu
04-14-2014, 09:46 PM
Steve-Its changed already- dash is now repainted to original colour,, and fitting glove box and centre woodgrain trim.
Once Rogerd connects with me, I will have the pedal box and complete steering with wheel in.
Bootlid has had its final fit.
White paint will be on this month....yay

Congratulations John, painting is a massive milestone. Am looking forward to the rest of your magnificent build.

Spgeti
04-14-2014, 09:57 PM
That is a huge milestone John, and yes I will be at HD next year. Cheers, Bruce

Grant Sprague
05-29-2014, 03:56 AM
John that was an interesting snippet, keep up the good work its only time ????? and sum doe ray me [$$] Do you notice how time keeps slipping away......lol. I use to have a few trinkets but realised when my girls came along it was time to be a Dad , good by race cars & collectables thats the price for starting a family later in life but wouldnt swap my family for quids or for motor racing , BUT hey they are all growing up fast ???

Rod Grimwood
05-29-2014, 10:26 PM
Yep Grant, thats why mine been parked, just when you think 'they grown now i might go play' along comes the grand child (hes a little ripper too) but he will grow into it, so better get on with putting bits together.


PS John, you have done some work fella, car looking great, and all this in between organizing others and Historic Sports Sedans, good on you.

Steve Holmes
06-02-2014, 09:22 PM
Yeah, well spotted! Check out some of the cars in the background: I can see an earlier HK/HT Monaro, and HQ Monaro, and a 67/68 Impala hardtop. Makes you wonder where all these cars went.

This thread is nearing 40,000 page views John. Lots of interest in this car. I reckon you'll have quite a crowd assemble for its first track appearance in nearly 40 years.

Rod Grimwood
06-07-2014, 10:33 PM
John give Tony Rutherford a yell think he has one.

Oldfart
06-07-2014, 11:21 PM
John, if you don't get anywhere with Tony drop me a line,

Steve Holmes
06-11-2014, 03:52 AM
Wow, thats looking great John! Awesome effort.

Steve Holmes
06-11-2014, 04:29 AM
That car definitely ended up with the right owner John, you saved it from almost certain extinction, so stand up and take a bow for bringing one back from the dead. 40,000 hits shows what great interest there is in the car. Its been an epic journey to watch.

Spgeti
06-11-2014, 06:28 AM
Hear Hear John, well done and I agree with Steve...you saved an important part of our motorsport history.....an example you have set for others to follow.....Cheers, Bruce

rogered
06-11-2014, 07:25 AM
Advert from Auto News- August 24 1970-

Chev 350 motor,1970:Ex-Grady Thomson Monaro. Two meetings since built. Modified as follows: 48IDAs Weber down-draughts, Hamlin and Charles modified heads, roller rockers, 2.02 inch inlet valves, Isky Magnum 600 rear driven roller cam, HD pushrods, nitrate steel crankshaft, four main bolt caps, Camaro z/28 rods.TRW forged pistons, 12.5:1, high capacity sump and oil pump, Schieffer Rev Lock clutch and alloy flywheel. Mpotor is putting out approx 540 hp.
Contact Rimmer Thomson Motors,Wellington.57-960.

Wonder who bought this motor, advert didnt appear again.

I am needing the use of a car rotissiere for the Monaro for about a month - does anyone in the Auckland or near area have one that I can use?
if so please call me at 5224418

Pretty sure I have an Isky GEAR drive roller cam, and gears, like that "in stock" when the time comes

Grant Sprague
06-11-2014, 10:18 PM
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Well done John getting this far.......I bet you are excited first big hurdle. over . you are not a gunna .......I wud love to recreate our fast back Anglia ...... got the contacts just need the time ..... I gunna gunna gunna do it one day lol.... congrats John pss John dont forget to lower rear of that bonnet you know that story ??? lol :mad:

Grant Sprague
06-11-2014, 10:57 PM
MMmmmm John thats a good idea ....lol:confused:

Oldfart
06-12-2014, 05:19 AM
In regard bonnets I guess you have spotted the photos from the UK in the "Just a mix.." thread?

Nathan Wood
06-13-2014, 05:59 AM
The old story of Holden bonnet hinges flogging out where the rivets go through and the spring pushes it up, cheap fix is to slot mounting holes a wee bit on the inner guard mount points so it can sit down more, or of course drill out rivets and build up with weld re-drill and re-rivet, bit of a job but probably worth the effort. Great Job John, so love seeing these old girls being Re Born!

Oldfart
06-13-2014, 07:18 AM
The old story of Holden bonnet hinges flogging out where the rivets go through and the spring pushes it up, cheap fix is to slot mounting holes a wee bit on the inner guard mount points so it can sit down more, or of course drill out rivets and build up with weld re-drill and re-rivet, bit of a job but probably worth the effort. Great Job John, so love seeing these old girls being Re Born!
In the context of this discussion, it relates to the practice of having the back edge lifted on purpose to help getting the engine bay heat relieved some.

928
06-13-2014, 07:34 AM
In the context of this discussion, it relates to the practice of having the back edge lifted on purpose to help getting the engine bay heat relieved some.
That old myth again? do people still think it works?

Racer Rog
06-13-2014, 08:19 AM
Myth is correct, wind tunnel tests over the years have well and truly put that one to bed, but there are a lot of non believers out there who will swear on their grandmothers grave that it works and that they have to do that to get the engine temp down, and I have found over the years, that most of those don't understand why the damm thing gets hot in the first place!
Roger

Oldfart
06-13-2014, 09:21 AM
Myth is correct, wind tunnel tests over the years have well and truly put that one to bed, but there are a lot of non believers out there who will swear on their grandmothers grave that it works and that they have to do that to get the engine temp down, and I have found over the years, that most of those don't understand why the damm thing gets hot in the first place!
Roger
I don't want to buy into myth or not. Nathans comment which I quoted was a discussion starter about hinges. If anyone wants to quote windtunnels etc, that is fine, however unless the actual vehicle being brought into the topic has been tested the theory is invalid. And yes I have actually spent time with windtunnels. Incredibly small differences can negate previous ideas. Angle of rake of the car itself, windscreens, nose shapes all (and not exclusively) can throw all prior ideas out the window. Generalisations do not apply.

Oldfart
06-13-2014, 04:57 PM
Happy to be wrong John. Wasn't Grant referring to having to close the gap in years gone by? Some rule that MANZ came up with about fluids escaping on to screens?

Rod Grimwood
06-13-2014, 09:29 PM
That old myth again? do people still think it works?


Don't think, know it works, did it years back. Sorry Rog.

Did it with Anglia (2Ltr) years ago and added a little lip on front of rear gap to assist. it certainly helped with flow of air through engine bay.

PS me and Mr Sprague discussed this on another thread last year with photos.

Spgeti
06-13-2014, 10:36 PM
off to start prep for paint work John.....the underside ??, Cheers Bruce

Oldfart
06-13-2014, 10:47 PM
Yeeha John

Spgeti
06-14-2014, 03:38 AM
Just a question John, are you allowed to race with that beautiful wood rim wheel ?. From memory they were the same as what I had in my 68 Vette.
My Alfa 105 came with a Personel wood rim wheel and I had to replace it.....sold it to a guy restoring his 105 and regret it ever since.

Racer Rog
06-14-2014, 08:16 AM
Its the lip that most likely,did the trick as just raising it by it self often causes a vacuum, and also m,as the old fella said rake, screen angle would make a difference, but rule of thumb it doesn't work, unless youy doing other work in conjunction with it.
Don't think, know it works, did it years back. Sorry Rog.

Did it with Anglia (2Ltr) years ago and added a little lip on front of rear gap to assist. it certainly helped with flow of air through engine bay.

PS me and Mr Sprague discussed this on another thread last year with photos.

Rod Grimwood
06-15-2014, 09:40 PM
You right about the lip Rog. We did a little bit of playing around back then to try and sort out air etc. and when we put the little alloy lip across front of vent at same angle as windscreen and slightly enlargened the gap it made a difference, cheers

TonyG
06-16-2014, 10:57 AM
Found this amongst some scans of slides that my Brother sent me to try to clean up for him.

http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq204/TGPhotography/Keiths%20Slide%20Scans/KEITH_0141-2_zps32e1777c.jpg (http://s448.photobucket.com/user/TGPhotography/media/Keiths%20Slide%20Scans/KEITH_0141-2_zps32e1777c.jpg.html)

Rod Grimwood
06-16-2014, 10:40 PM
Bonnet might be flush John boy, but there is something poking through it that may be attached to the engine to help it breath and swallow. Remember this and it was bronze and it was fast and looked good.

Kiwiboss
06-17-2014, 12:27 AM
Rod- 4x 48 IDAs poking through then.
I will still run this set up, but am not allowed to cut the bonnet as he did then.- fluids on windscreens sound familiar...............?

No John, your Monaro is an original historic schedule K car with NZ race history so it can be how it ran in the day under the FIA GR 2 or 5 regs and still be eligible for HMC.

Its like Nigel MacDonald's Dawson 67 Mustang, they never came with front and rear spoilers on that model mustang(not until 69) but because his raced in NZ with this equipment period and is a real schedule K car he is allowed this, but you can't build one day and use these spoilers.

Dale M

Linz
06-17-2014, 07:06 AM
Hi John.
Did you see on Trade Me today a HG 350 Bathurst Monaro sold for $150,300.
Good to see there is a solid following for these muscle Cars

Linz
06-17-2014, 08:52 AM
That's amazing same owner for 40 years. Still paying off the Monaro, still working some weekends. I am having a hard time trying to find a set of Hustler wheels , Seems like everybody is after them.

Linz
06-17-2014, 10:09 AM
I was lucky buying mine when the market was very low, about 3 years then it will be paid off. Great if you can find some hustler wheels. They would have to be 7 inch wide to fit inside the rear guards. Unless I take off the tramp rods then I could go wider,

ElCoyote
06-25-2014, 12:55 AM
An inquiry to anyone out there who can help please - I would like to contact Angus Cameron, that well known Monaro pilot from the Wellington are in the late 60s- early 70s.
Any leads would be appreciated.

If there are any Camerons in Ohariu Valley (Wellington) in the phone book that would be a good start

hilstwist
06-25-2014, 01:42 AM
There was an Angus Cameron who used to hill climb a grey valiant in the mid 60s and boy did he throw that thing around. I have some great photos of him in that car at Houghton Bay and Palmer Head: I do not recall the Monaro

Bryan
06-25-2014, 02:28 AM
There was an Angus Cameron who used to hill climb a grey valiant in the mid 60s and boy did he throw that thing around. I have some great photos of him in that car at Houghton Bay and Palmer Head: I do not recall the Monaro

He raced the Monaro at Baypark in the 1971 Glenvale 100. Retired lap 34 with brake problems.
MOTORMAN, August, 1971 (http://mrec.rotary.net.nz/articles/glenvale1.htm)

ElCoyote
06-25-2014, 03:22 AM
There was an Angus Cameron who used to hill climb a grey valiant in the mid 60s and boy did he throw that thing around. I have some great photos of him in that car at Houghton Bay and Palmer Head: I do not recall the Monaro

The same man. I too have some hillclimb photos. I don't think the Valiant ever had a wash probably because of the gravel roads in the valley which explains the driving style.

GeebeeNZ
06-25-2014, 08:50 AM
Have tried this area with directory service, nothing there, any of his old buddies from the Car Club reading this?

John I have sent you a private message

Graeme

Spgeti
06-28-2014, 11:15 PM
46 years old John, yep it has lasted well and now will last for more than 46 years.

Bruce302
07-01-2014, 09:12 AM
Nice addition to the jig saw puzzle of provenance. I guess you are also looking for a T bucket owner who once owned a Monaro.

Spgeti
07-14-2014, 07:16 AM
Hmmmm 12 Bolt. Nice.

Bryan
07-14-2014, 11:53 PM
I thought it was only British Leyland and the Italians that made cars with that degree of built-in obsolescence.:o

Good to know you can get replacement panels, and a good panel beater girl.:p

Keep posting those progress pics, helps to motivate the rest of us to pull finger on our own projects.:)

Kiwiboss
07-15-2014, 12:11 AM
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Great work John and will be a fantastic addition to HMC when finished!! with all the cars get built and coming too HMC it will be a fantastic looking field with the Monaro rite up there in providence as thats what we're all about!!

Hopefully see you at the Speedshow over the weekend :)

Dale M

fullnoise68
07-23-2014, 12:48 AM
John, when Ian used to help Goody he and his wife bought the Jacaranda Motel in Epsom, then like any Ford engine, that all blew up and Ian moved to Aussie. In the early to mid `80s he ran the Spears workshop in East Tamaki, and also helped Bill Adams from Aimco Aerials with his dirt track mini which Ian built a real serious engine with fuel injection on an Ardun head. I often wonder where that motor ended up. Ian was a real nice guy who could get any engine happening.......

Steve Holmes
07-23-2014, 02:01 AM
The Monaro looks amazing John! Great effort.

SPman
07-24-2014, 05:59 AM
Just talked to Randal Edgel- he said he was just starting at Spears then, remembers vaguely the car but absolutely Ian Burton-I.B.- doing the 350 for Jim Carlyle. Anyone know where Ian Burton is these days-he also used to help Noel Goodwin on the Sprint Car.How is Randall these days? Haven't seen him since he assembled a Fiat 500 engine for me when he was still an apprentice........

Shano
07-25-2014, 10:48 PM
Wow, hard to believe it's the same car. Congratulations on an amazing job so far. Can't wait to see this one lifting a wheel around Hampton Downs.

Rod Grimwood
07-27-2014, 09:34 PM
Grouse John

SPman
07-28-2014, 06:23 AM
Amazing how a coat of paint helps bring it all together.

AL the Jeepster
07-28-2014, 07:10 AM
Sweet build & awesome seeing it done once, done right first time..... Nice work John

Steve Holmes
07-28-2014, 09:55 PM
Shano- the body is always the biggie.
Engine just about finished.
Webers being checked now.
Engine goes to Marsh in September for run in and dyno.
Gearbox, diff, brakes,interior , front and rear suspension all ready to go.
Just need to confirm the height when all weight is in.
Another biggie will be the weatherstrip kit- $2k and cage about the same.
It will always be the body and the paint that determine how quickly I can afford to finish this car, but at least now, looking at it,-its not the end of the beginning: its the beginning of the end.

Are they making weatherstrip kits for these Monaros now John? Do you know who makes them?

Steve Holmes
07-29-2014, 05:03 AM
Thanks John re the weatherstrip kits, thats good to know.

Jizim
08-04-2014, 10:26 AM
Looking good John.....was great to catch you up mate....always have time to talk about such things we love! See ya soon. Kind regards, Tony Rutherford

khyndart in CA
09-01-2014, 03:14 PM
Terry Marshall photo of Cambridge Monaro 1970/71 season. ( NZ Classic Car article. Dec 2008)
Grady Thompson on the front row at Ruapuna. Against Crosby,Fahey and Dawson and in front of Rod Coppins.

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(Ken Hyndman )

khyndart in CA
09-01-2014, 07:27 PM
Terry Marshall photo of Cambridge Monaro 1970/71 season. ( NZ Classic Car article)
Grady Thompson on the front row at Ruapuna. Against Crosby,Fahey and Dawson and in front of Rod Coppins.

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(Ken Hyndman )

John McKechnie,
If you can get this Monaro restored back to its former Team Cambridge condition, that will be a wonderful achievement and I hope all TRS readers can go back through their old photos, magazines and programmes etc.and supply you with any information they can.
Good on ya mate for giving it a go.

(Ken Hyndman )

Jac Mac
09-01-2014, 07:32 PM
Pole position is opposite side on Ruapuna grid..therefore Dawson pole, then Fahey, Crosbie, Thompson...

Grant Sprague
10-18-2014, 07:10 AM
Thank you John for up date and well done so far............. was looking at [although Paul being shorter] Paul & Croz in escorts you can see how Paul [ex uk race car] sits way lower getting centre of gravity...low ...... huge advantage every corner .....still see this today in club level I guess people ok with the way things are ...I remember :)
the first pre 65 Anglia I raced it seemed common sence to sit on the floor taking a lot off the bottom off the seat ....seemed to work ok lol ........

Bruce302
10-18-2014, 09:40 PM
That's ridiculous, it was never that shiny. Looks like it belongs in a hot rod FFS.



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26426.
Time for an update on a cold wet day-
Said earlier that motor was almost ready and carbs being checked by Rob Brown
Now engine is complete and goes to Marsh next week for starting, running in and dynoing.
Many thanks to Mark Wade for this, started with a bare block, and new crank
You will seen him recently on the Win a Monaro video and is a total Chev man- runs a small block sprint car
When I get the motor back, bell housing, clutch all get mated and fit to front cross member. Body then lowered down to get correct fit then measured for tuned headers.
Diff housing also goes to Dennis Running for assembly- all new insides.

Kiwiboss
10-19-2014, 02:37 AM
26425
26426.
Time for an update on a cold wet day-
Said earlier that motor was almost ready and carbs being checked by Rob Brown
Now engine is complete and goes to Marsh next week for starting, running in and dynoing.
Many thanks to Mark Wade for this, started with a bare block, and new crank
You will seen him recently on the Win a Monaro video and is a total Chev man- runs a small block sprint car
When I get the motor back, bell housing, clutch all get mated and fit to front cross member. Body then lowered down to get correct fit then measured for tuned headers.
Diff housing also goes to Dennis Running for assembly- all new insides.

Very nice John, a lot of us appreciate the work you are putting in and for me personally, im looking forward to seeing you out on the track in the Monaro(were it should be)

Dale M

Bryan
10-20-2014, 02:24 AM
26425
26426.
Time for an update on a cold wet day-
Said earlier that motor was almost ready and carbs being checked by Rob Brown
Now engine is complete and goes to Marsh next week for starting, running in and dynoing.
Many thanks to Mark Wade for this, started with a bare block, and new crank
You will seen him recently on the Win a Monaro video and is a total Chev man- runs a small block sprint car
When I get the motor back, bell housing, clutch all get mated and fit to front cross member. Body then lowered down to get correct fit then measured for tuned headers.
Diff housing also goes to Dennis Running for assembly- all new insides.

Wow, what a beauty.:cool: Almost looks too good to put in a car.:D

Nice story about the GM Monaro restoration on TV3 news last night (not online unfortunately).

Bruce302
10-20-2014, 10:04 AM
Indeed they were all hot rodders at heart. Fast Furious and Shiny (FFS)

Bryan
10-20-2014, 09:51 PM
Indeed they were all hot rodders at heart. Fast Furious and Shiny (FFS)

Thanks for the explanation of FFS, Bruce, didn't think Jack meant what the txt generation mean. :eek:

imho the last modern car that looked drool-worthy under the bonnet was the 1996 XJS:p
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although it would look even better with 6 Webers.:cool:
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Bruce302
10-20-2014, 10:02 PM
Quick, change the sparkplugs !



Thanks for the explanation of FFS, Bruce, didn't think Jack meant what the txt generation mean. :eek:

imho the last modern car that looked drool-worthy under the bonnet was the 1996 XJS
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Bryan
10-20-2014, 10:20 PM
Quick, change the sparkplugs !

iirc the Ferrari 512BB required the H12 engine to be removed to change the plugs.:eek:

khyndart in CA
10-20-2014, 11:50 PM
I told everyone over here that this Morrie is so quick that it burnt all the paint off on re-entry ! ( It must be a real rocket ! )

Bryan
10-21-2014, 01:38 AM
Bryan-Do you seriously think Oldfart will let your Morris Minor (#521) run in his pre-61 historic class- looks scrumptious with all those Webers

I'd love to know who's Minor it is. The photo was posted on a NZ Hot Rod forum. Definitely would need a front suspension upgrade:eek: , and the usual trick of pinching the dics brakes off a Marina might need a rethink.;)

Oldfart
10-23-2014, 09:22 PM
Bryan-Do you seriously think Oldfart will let your Morris Minor (#521) run in his pre-61 historic class- looks scrumptious with all those Webers

Sadly I am running out of enthusiasm for this class. Heaps of wannabees and a few cars have been acquired and prepared, but even they don't reply to emails about a race meeting where they have been invited to run. Might be a bit of a damp squib.

aussiemonza
10-24-2014, 04:33 AM
26425
26426.
Time for an update on a cold wet day-
Said earlier that motor was almost ready and carbs being checked by Rob Brown
Now engine is complete and goes to Marsh next week for starting, running in and dynoing.
Many thanks to Mark Wade for this, started with a bare block, and new crank
You will seen him recently on the Win a Monaro video and is a total Chev man- runs a small block sprint car
When I get the motor back, bell housing, clutch all get mated and fit to front cross member. Body then lowered down to get correct fit then measured for tuned headers.
Diff housing also goes to Dennis Running for assembly- all new insides.

Hi John, are those "the Webers"?

kiwi285
11-28-2014, 08:49 AM
Here are the latest photos from John. Some good progress being made here. The sides are just about complete and its time to work on the underside.

http://i57.tinypic.com/mjq1xx.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/29d7bk4.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/262s206.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/opye7d.jpg

Kiwiboss
11-28-2014, 11:04 AM
Thanks Mike.
Yep still hoping to get it to Ganley Festival.
Bottom will be done next week, then back on wheels to paint interior then off for cage.

Ganley? Ganley is just under 2 months away John!!

Dale M

Kiwiboss
11-28-2014, 09:31 PM
The car is not sitting in the corner of the garage with the owner saying-" One day Im gunna.........."

You got my respect John because we got a country full of "GUNNA's"

Dale M

AL the Jeepster
12-13-2014, 03:56 PM
Yes John, your build is coming along nicely and the donk is looking the goods....... tho for all of us following the build I'm sure we would like to see a YouTube video of it's first fire up or maybe it's second :cool:

********* keep the updates & pic's coming**********

AL

AL the Jeepster
12-13-2014, 04:36 PM
although it would look even better with 6 Webers.:cool:
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And I thought I was 'out there' when I built a Hi-light Morrie with a 383ci Wedge Block....... 6 Webers is way cooler:cool:

kiwi285
12-13-2014, 09:19 PM
John - you are a marvel - you never fail to amaze me with your 'get on and get it done' attitude. We will all be keeping our fingers crossed but fully realize the pressure you are working under. Don't give yourself a hernia though.

Rod Grimwood
12-16-2014, 12:27 AM
The bonus is you have the Falcon to play in, and can finish Monaro properly in time. You have done marvels already, just take it as it comes cobber. Looking forward to seeing car and yourself.

Shano
12-16-2014, 02:54 AM
Very sorry to hear that John.

Rod Grimwood
12-16-2014, 09:50 AM
Well I not much use to you John boy, lifting well off the list for me. Will call you and will drop in if I get away, just gotta wait and see.

Cheers

Kiwiboss
12-16-2014, 10:52 AM
Rod- sounds like we should have a working bee of supporters. Would you be OK for carrying sausages and drinks around?
I am up to lifting a knife to cut the Apricot slice.
Shano- thanks mate, really wanted to get the Monaro out for everyone to enjoy , but didnt damage myself on my car, it was a customers Triumph Stag

Those POM cars can bite you so be careful John, LOL

Dale M

Kevin Hirst
12-16-2014, 09:43 PM
Rod- sounds like we should have a working bee of supporters. Would you be OK for carrying sausages and drinks around?
I am up to lifting a knife to cut the Apricot slice.
Shano- thanks mate, really wanted to get the Monaro out for everyone to enjoy , but didnt damage myself on my car, it was a customers Triumph Stag

I will put my hand up for any working bee John, you too Rodney, best wishes to you both.

Rod Grimwood
12-17-2014, 03:56 AM
Hirsty is the man, he is a 'real' mechanic, he fix's not replace's.

Done a lot of brilliant work on my toys over the years.

He has a history of 'making' things going way back to the 'Morrari' and before and has a neat little sports car at moment.

kiwi285
12-17-2014, 09:11 PM
Here are some more photos of the car. Definitely a ground up restoration

http://i59.tinypic.com/289hk47.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/wwnek1.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2zhfe6x.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/2e5nqz8.jpg

Kevin Hirst
12-18-2014, 08:08 AM
I will put my hand up for any working bee John, you too Rodney, best wishes to you both.

what I meant was on yours too, Rod.

khyndart in CA
04-19-2015, 06:59 AM
John,
Is that the same hood latch cross member we used to lean against and have a few beers after work and listen to Rod Coppins stories at Spinner's workshop on Thames Street in Morrinsville in 1969 ?


(Ken Hyndman )

khyndart in CA
04-19-2015, 07:50 AM
John,
It is stretching my memory a bit but the names I remember at that time were; Bob Summerell (Summerell Panel & Paint (2003), 166 Thames St, Morrinsville, 07 889 7227 ) and Greg & Julian Tordoff.
If they did not do it I am sure they could tell you who did.
I hope this helps.
Cheers,
Ken H

khyndart in CA
04-19-2015, 08:27 AM
That is a blast from the past..Graeme Williams..we did crazy stuff in Anglias back then.
Give my regards to Bob Summerell if you reach him..fond memories of his cheerful attitude always.
Also check your private messages as it stated it was full up. (Do I have your email ?)
All the best John. What a great job you guys do of bringing these cars back to life.

kiwi285
04-20-2015, 05:05 AM
That car is looking great John. Really looking forward to seeing the original Cambridge Racing Team colours again on track. Loved the Fahey 70 Boss Mustang in those colours and the Anderson BMW 2002.

You are the last person anyone should refer to as a 'gunna'. You have done more building, repairing and organising in the last year than most others would have done in a couple of years.

Do you have any timeline set out for the car now ?

Spgeti
04-20-2015, 06:26 AM
Car is looking good John. Such good history. cheers, Bruce

GD66
04-20-2015, 08:58 AM
That car is looking great John. You are the last person anyone should refer to as a 'gunna'. You have done more building, repairing and organising in the last year than most others would have done in a couple of years.



Agree with that. There's always some sad sack offering free advice, but you seldom line up bedside them on the grid. Car's looking good mate, and back in the days when it was running in the Cambridge colours it was still quite distinctive from the Mustangs and Camaros, so looking forward to seeing that again. Truth be known, it did look pretty good even in stock colours : was it turbine bronze metallic ?

Spgeti
04-20-2015, 09:22 PM
Hi John, have a look at posting #18 on Racing on Sunday. David Hunter has a photo of the Monaro....might be worth following up.

Looking forward to catch up at Manfeild in November John.


Cheers, Bruce

khyndart in CA
04-21-2015, 07:23 AM
John,
You may have seen this already but if you go to this site and click on the superb photos that Jack Inwood took of the Roger Anderson BMW you will get a very good example of the Cambridge Racing Team colour scheme.

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/148322-sharing-some-vintage-race-shots/page-7


(Remember to click on the photos )
Cheers, Ken

Noo Noo
04-22-2015, 08:26 AM
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Grady Thomson at Levin 15.02.1970. The bronze Monaro was the tow car for it. My understanding at the time was that Rick Rimmer was racing this. Interesting that it has #13 on the window.

( The Cambridge car) To me the bonnet looks dark blue rather than black but the sun is shining on it so it could be deceiving. Also the leather straps holding the bonnet shut have been dispensed with.

Photo quality is not brilliant. My camera was a Agfa Clack. About one step up from a Box Brownie.

David Hunter

Noo Noo
04-22-2015, 10:49 AM
David- Wow, this is neat.
So this is the first colour pic, also Spinner has sold the car to Rick and Grady and this is their first outgoing.
Interesting features are no leather straps holding the bonnet down, the bonnet is blacked out and the bumper has its distinct treatment
Rick told me Gradys favourite number was 13.
It must have been an amazing sight on this Sunday.

Glad you find it of interest John. I only had one exposure left in my camera (8 exposure film) after using the first 7 at Wigram in January and thought the Monaro the the most worthy car to use it on.

I noticed recently in the book Rally New Zealand- Celebrating 25 Years, a photo of the Thomson/Rimmer Monaro in the 1969 Shell Silver Fern rally showing it was number 13. Presuming the number was allocated by the organisers did Thomson then adopt it as his lucky number after winning the rally?

David Hunter

Spgeti
04-22-2015, 09:38 PM
It's a cool photo John. No cage....gauges on the dash pad and those wheels....David has done well and he may have other gems in his photo collection.

Noo Noo
04-22-2015, 10:29 PM
David- Wow, this is neat.
So this is the first colour pic, also Spinner has sold the car to Rick and Grady and this is their first outing.
Interesting features are no leather straps holding the bonnet down, the bonnet is blacked out and the bumper has its distinct treatment
Rick told me Gradys favourite number was 13, so maybe he was in the bronze car as Rick won a race in the Cambridge. Also Grady did fastest time of the day in the Cambridge.
It must have been an amazing sight on this Sunday.
Just checked pics from Wigram and it has the proper Cambridge bonnet with colors and sign writing where as this is simple blacked out.
David - can you please email this to me so I can expand it for more details. I am at-

j.mckechnie@slingshot.co.nz.

Hi John - I've just re-read this and noted your e-mail request. I won't try to do it myself because I'll make a pigs ear of it but it's alright, I've got a crack team of computer experts on call (my wife and the young bloke next door). I'll get one of them to do it this evening.

GD66
04-22-2015, 10:57 PM
Still looking for an old Cambridge cigarette packet if anyone has one laying around.






Have you been in touch with the bloke running the ex-Jim Boyd Lola T70 ? In pics that looks absolutely crack-on for an accurate period colour scheme.

khyndart in CA
04-23-2015, 02:18 AM
John,
What is your opinion on the paint colours of the Roger Anderson's BMW on the post # 565 link ?


Ken H

Spgeti
04-23-2015, 05:17 AM
Dulux used to have a historical listing of old colours and what matches them today. Try Dulux HO in Wellington John.

khyndart in CA
04-23-2015, 05:20 AM
John,
You may find this site useful;

http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/


KH

khyndart in CA
04-23-2015, 06:41 AM
John,
I meant to put this site in the last time but I am sure you have done this already.

http://www.gmh-torana.com.au/forums/topic/45622-1968-73-holden-and-torana-paint-charts/


You will have to use that Cambridge Blue somehow John !

KH

Noo Noo
04-23-2015, 10:38 AM
It's a cool photo John. No cage....gauges on the dash pad and those wheels....David has done well and he may have other gems in his photo collection.

Sadly I don't have many photos. My thinking when I was young was that motor racing photography was all about action shots on the track which required a good camera, telephoto lens, lots of film and developing and none of that stuff came cheap. Consequently I never put much value on taking photos of cars standing still which was all my cheap basic camera was capable of.

What photos I did take I still have so will put them up in the near future.

David Hunter

Noo Noo
04-23-2015, 12:08 PM
David- you came into the Roaring Season saying your participation level in motorsport was low.
Guess what, you were the right man in the right place and this picture has made you a legend- colour pics of this car are few and far between.
"thought the Monaro the the most worthy car to use it on."- absolutely, especially if you saw it spinning at Wigram.
Give yourself a big pat on the back as this details from this pic definitely helps my restoration.
Just out of curiosity- what are the other 7 pics from Wigram about, do you still have them ?

John - I'm only just over a week away from my 67th birthday and you are the first person who has ever called me a legend (lol).

As for Wigram; some mates and I were on a 3 week camping holiday in the South Island (in a triple carbed Mk 2 Zephyr and my EH Holden) and we made sure we got back to Christchurch in good time for race day. We were in such good time we spent about 3 or 4 hours at the circuit on the friday ( practise day) where there was lots of activity, race cars parked all over the place and heaps of people milling around them. It was really hot too - we were Wellingtonians and unaccustomed to tempertures over about 20 degrees.

So we wandered about and I took photos of various cars when I could get a clear shot. One thing I'm fairly sure of, while we were there I never saw the Monaro. Would have got a shot of it if it had been. It might have turned up after we left - or not practised at all.

All I can remember about race day was standing in a sea of people and not seeing much at all, certainly not the Monaro spinning. Either Wigram wasn't much of a spectator circuit or we just found ourselves in the wrong place.

Our 20 year old neighbour Finn came over this evening and scanned the photos into my computer. When he comes back from racing motorbikes at Taupo this weekend I'll get him to post them up. You might be interested in a 3/4 rear view of the Coppins Camaro in Cambridge colours.
I was watching him doing the scanning and said "I suppose I should learn how to do this myself".
He said "don't bother, you can't teach old dogs new tricks"
That's the trouble with kids today - they've got no respect.

David

45DCOE
07-23-2015, 03:40 AM
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Found this Team Cambridge sticker on www.cabbagetreecornermedia.com. Sorry about quality but check web site for what appears to be an original.

Some interesting images on this site of Rod Coppins in the Zephyr Corvette on a gravel hillclimb.

kiwi285
07-27-2015, 12:19 AM
Great progress John - looking forward to seeing the car on track again.

GD66
07-27-2015, 10:58 AM
Gavin Shaw pic from Grady's Bronze Era...
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kiwi285
07-27-2015, 11:10 PM
Mike- Good to hear from you again.
Now - was that on track or on the track ..........or both.

I guess both John. We all suffer unforeseen hiccups every now and then but so long as we keep at it then it all falls into place. I know that you will keep chugging away at it. Cheers

GD66
07-28-2015, 12:16 AM
Looking at the number- 59- and the advertising on the side- K.E.Carter Motors -well known Holden and Chevrolet Agents- should make this BayPark when Terry Allen appeared with his big block Camaro in 1969


Yes buddy, the Easter meeting on March 29th. Evidently they didn't make the seal quite wide enough on the exit of Stand Corner.

Steve Holmes
08-20-2015, 02:16 AM
Looking good John!

khyndart in CA
10-26-2015, 11:13 PM
Hello John, I hope this finds you well..
How is our favorite Monaro coming along ?
I came across this photo I took at Warwick Farm in 1970 and Norm Beechey is chasing Pete Geoghegan's Mustang in his Monaro.
It looks like the Monaro was handling as it should on this high speed corner.
Sorry the quality is not great but it does capture a scene of the fun times we had at the "Farm."

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( Ken Hyndman..photo)

khyndart in CA
10-27-2015, 06:55 AM
Sorry John for not having your Monaro on film.
I did this of Beechey in action just for you.

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( Ken Hyndman photo )

Spgeti
11-06-2015, 10:36 PM
Sent you an Email John re the plates....

Bruce302
11-07-2015, 04:17 AM
ьпрушк поылкегбтсб тсмиымоа ьегкшурв пр ?????????

I couldn't have put it better, well said.
Bruce.

Steve Holmes
11-07-2015, 08:59 AM
Thats a great idea getting replica plates made John. They really help complete the detail of the car and help finish it off. Its that attention to detail that us car nuts love.

This is a Holman-Moody Galaxie stock car I have just finished writing a story on for Muscle Car Digital Magazine (http://musclecardigitalmagazine.com/current-issue/). The owner/restorer John Craft did likewise, having replica plates made like those from when his car raced at Riverside in 1964.

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Bruce302
11-08-2015, 09:36 AM
Here you go John,
I got my Dunlop decals here and they are dead nuts right.
http://www.retro-uk.com/page024.htm

Bruce.

[QUOTE=
Now to get hold of some Dunlop and Champion stickers.[/QUOTE]

Bruce302
11-30-2015, 06:02 AM
Here is my latest decal project John.

http://i65.tinypic.com/11ry5ps.jpg

Bruce.

Bruce302
11-30-2015, 06:15 AM
The shocks are original GM/Pontiac part numbered with the right date code. I'm not sure of the heraldry but now my interest is piqued.

Spgeti
11-30-2015, 08:37 AM
Yes I have seen these on vintage Alfa GTA race cars....bloody expensive to buy from GTA Parts....

Kwaussie
11-30-2015, 11:19 AM
Might look different here in Australia but in post #609 the top photo looks like 1362M the lower 1362N surely some one will notice?

Steve Holmes
11-30-2015, 11:07 PM
Its interesting you guys picked up on the plate! I asked John Craft about this. His attention to detail is AMAZING! This Galaxie, and other stock cars he has previously owned and restored, including the 1965 Daytona 500 winner pictured below, are all totally correct to how they were built in period. He has also written several books on the history of Nascar. But he didn't pick up on the number plate! He is off to have another one made.

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Steve Holmes
12-01-2015, 12:08 AM
Yeah they're great looking cars aren't they John. Having written the story on the #06 1964 Galaxie John has just completed, I gained a better understanding of the amount of work that went into transforming these cars from road cars to race cars. In 1964, the cars were still road cars, supplied to Holman-Moody by Ford, but without motors and gearboxes. From there, H-M did a huge amount of fabrication, including removing the floor, the transmission tunnel, and fitting their own floor and taller trans tunnel to get the driveshaft up higher within the car to lower the whole car further. They also tubbed the rear wheel housings to fit the wheels. Thats how they get them so low, as well as suspension changes. They also feed the exhaust system through tunnels cut in the chassis rails and out through notches cut in the lower bodywork.

So be interesting to see how the HMC stock cars are built by comparison.

By the way John, are you running either of your cars at the Festival in January?

khyndart in CA
12-01-2015, 01:00 AM
Hey John,
If I happen to show up in Febuary, can I touch the Monaro or strap me in for a lap ?

Ken H

khyndart in CA
12-08-2015, 01:10 AM
Hey John,
Will you have the same pit crew as John Goss had ?
They look very efficient.

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KJH

Rod Grimwood
12-08-2015, 02:52 AM
Ken, was there that year with a group of good ole (young then) boys from Matamata and Auckland. And they were pretty good gear alright. Spent a couple hours over beers with John and those wheels in photo actually came back on same plane as us and are still on a Mustang. We all had Aunger T-Shirts and hats etc. but that's all we got (not for lack of trying). Bet they don't fit those shorts anymore and the ' Pointers would now be Setters ', but yea alright back then.

khyndart in CA
12-08-2015, 08:18 AM
Rod,
I am glad it was just the wheels that came back on the plane with you !
Otherwise your career might have changed and I would never had met you at Laguna Seca this year.
You made the right choice mate.



(Ken H)

Rod Grimwood
12-08-2015, 09:03 AM
Not really Ken, think 'they' made the right choice.

khyndart in CA
12-08-2015, 09:35 AM
Oh come on Mr Grimwood, there are some moments when life is not so grim !

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(Ken H photo )

Grant Sprague
12-08-2015, 06:24 PM
:) Now that looks & sounds like fun , ha ha ......looks like we are in for a great summer of fun , Ken if your heading back would be great to say hi if your time allows, we can do it the Rod & Grant style & meet for a beer

khyndart in CA
12-08-2015, 07:13 PM
Thanks Grant,
No definite plans yet as situations keep changing back here but I appreciate your offer.
Cheers
Ken

Steve Holmes
12-09-2015, 06:46 PM
John, I got this message from Gus McMillan. He is a member here and is happy to help with this. Flick me an email and I'll hook you up: theroaringseason@gmail.com

"Hi ya TRS I notice John Mc is looking for some Dunlop Decals for Cambridge Monaro. I have some of these original and unused, send me an address and I'll post to him. I'd have replied on Roaring Season but have forgotten my log in and password. Cheers Gus McMillan"

Steve Holmes
12-10-2015, 03:31 AM
Looks great! Who made the headers?

Oldfart
12-10-2015, 06:23 AM
No news yet John?

Bruce302
12-10-2015, 08:54 AM
The engine is looking great John, nice attention to detail. Keep up the good work.
Bruce.

Jac Mac
12-12-2015, 08:45 PM
Left a message to that effect on his answerphone, will flick you a PM with #'s

Bruce302
12-13-2015, 08:17 AM
Hey Gunner, I finally found a couple of my spare Dunlop decals, (same as on the Firebird) I will see you this week if you still need them,

Bruce.

John McKechnie
12-13-2015, 09:36 AM
Only one month more of being called a Gunna, counting the minutes............

Bruce302
12-13-2015, 10:41 AM
I heard you were a gunner in the Salvation Army

Allan
12-13-2015, 07:21 PM
Does the Salvation Army still take prisoners?

Spgeti
12-16-2015, 07:46 PM
I love it John......

Kevin Hirst
12-16-2015, 07:46 PM
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Headers done ,now exhaust system being made .
Scotty again doing the measuring, cutting,generally laying under the nice clean car, and Brian from FABTECH doing the welding.
Once again- NO mufflers or sound deadening devices fitted, just will be pure noise.

Didn't realize you had flogged my bramley axle stands John, must be hundred;s of those sold in the past, car coming along great, can't wait to see it, cheers .

Rod Grimwood
12-17-2015, 09:43 AM
Hey John, awesome, you the man.

Steve Holmes
01-03-2016, 09:01 AM
Here it is folks- what every well dressed Escort and grungy MK2 Zephyr used to wear.-
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After the discussion on the Team Cambridge Mustang of Paul Faheys, and Kens interest in missing out on being the only Kiwi having one on his tool box, I started looking
I have completed my research on the Boss Andy sticker.
This was started by John W Andrews Ford, May 1970 just after Ray Stone started there.
Boss synonymous with the high performance Ford Mustang, and Andy is self -explanatory.
Boss Andy follows the success of Super Roo, Road Runner, Cobra, Super Bee etc.
Staff there incuded-
Mr G Greenfield, Chris Moon ,Gerry Chambers, Bill Barlow also involved with this.
Final design was Sam Harvey and was registered as a trade mark.

More to follow here.
Picture and condensed info from AutoNews Volume 5, November 1970

Thats AWESOME! Great investigative work there John!

grelley
01-03-2016, 10:54 PM
What a shame we cant turn the clock back to 1970. What a fantastic group of saloons. If only motor racing was like that now.

khyndart in CA
01-03-2016, 11:33 PM
John,
Thanks for the "Boss Andy " sticker information.
John Andrews Ford had better material to work with than what we had in Hamilton at Fairview Motors in 1971 when
owned by Herbie Dyke !


Ken H

Jac Mac
01-04-2016, 12:00 AM
looking at the list of entries there, one legend isnt there- JacMac.

Oh , I am there all right, not in the entries though, you just have not looked hard enough! Sometimes things are so clear that you cannot see them!:)

Most of the mustangs had expanded to 302cu in/5000cc by the look of it. This might be the meeting that John Rileys car ventilated the block in the last race, could be wrong on that though.

Rod Grimwood
01-04-2016, 12:00 AM
John, I would be a starter for a couple. Had them years ago on Escort.


Jac Mac, which Anglia.

Jac Mac
01-04-2016, 12:08 AM
Clever boy! the middle one. On the right of pic is Murray Kelman with super trick brake ducting, not sure of the Mini.

khyndart in CA
01-04-2016, 03:30 AM
Ken- I am getting some left and right Boss Andy decals done for the XA Coupe.
Would you like a pair for your collection also ?
John,
That is a very kind offer and most appreciated but I would like to donate my quota to Mr. Rod Grimwood.
ok ?

Ken H

khyndart in CA
01-04-2016, 03:55 AM
Sorry,
He is much more deserving than me.
He did not run away and abandon his homeland like someone I know !


KH

Rod Grimwood
01-04-2016, 08:33 PM
Sorry,
He is much more deserving than me.
He did not run away and abandon his homeland like someone I know !


KH

After meeting you last year Ken and the great time at Laguna Seca, better keep your spare room tidy, you could end up with a boarder, never too late cobber.

Jac Mac
01-04-2016, 09:01 PM
Austin Prattley in Cooper S

Don't think so, Murray & I would have had trouble catching Prattley, more likely one of the Invercargill lads, that pic would have been taken at one of the 1969 club meetings.

One of those meetings where your entry fee was refunded at documentation prior to tech inspection and then your points/placings were tallied up for the day and prize money paid out before you went home, you see back then the clubs realised that without cars and drivers they actually had nothing to get the public to come and watch, plus we/I raced in the overalls we wore to work on Friday and the car only had to have a fire extinguisher- no roll cage ( I did put one in that Anglia, probably one of the first to have one in a road car, no WOF issues with fitting it! ) -No COD- no trailer- no pit crew- no rain tires etc- that Anglia was my only source of daily transport and that thought of having to go back to a pushbike to work was not pleasant, so I/We tended to drive with that in mind... although I suspect there are still a few armchair experts around who would suggest that I tended to test those boundaries at times!

khyndart in CA
01-05-2016, 12:03 AM
After meeting you last year Ken and the great time at Laguna Seca, better keep your spare room tidy, you could end up with a boarder, never too late cobber.
Rod,
This is not a bad "neck of the woods" but we may not be able to cover all your needs. I will tidy the spare room.
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p.s. do not tell John.

Also check this out as well.
https://www.visitsyv.com/discover-syv/los-olivos/

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( KJH )

Kevin Hirst
01-06-2016, 07:40 PM
Rod,
This is not a bad "neck of the woods" but we may not be able to cover all your needs. I will tidy the spare room.
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p.s. do not tell John.

Also check this out as well.
https://www.visitsyv.com/discover-syv/los-olivos/

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( KJH )

Ken, can you get a better focus & enlargement on the motorbike, cant quite identify the model,or read the I.D. no,

khyndart in CA
01-06-2016, 11:48 PM
Sorry Kevin,
I did not want to get run off by the TRS police !
You can Google ( gilda texter photos ) and let me know the correct I.D. number. I might have to make more room at my house !
That other photo was taken just across the road from home. (It shows the competition I am up against in my Mini Cooper !)


Ken H

faminz
01-10-2016, 04:42 AM
Found this old super8 video with some Cambridge saloons in it at Puke. Around 1970's? Any use for seeing colours etc?
https://youtu.be/YPNzpSvychM

GD66
01-10-2016, 05:23 AM
Good old Norm, what a star he was.

Nice catch by Roy Harrington in the Escort, giving the marshals on Rothmans a bit of a workout...:cool:

Roger Dowding
01-10-2016, 08:01 AM
Fine clip, thanks for posying it.
Who is the white Anglia pilot loosing it exiting the hairpin?
Certainly a good showing of Cambridge cars.
Shame Fahey wasnt allowed start where his performance dictated to give us all a chance of a head to head with Norm.

faminz thanks for posting the clip, not a good place for the marshalls, now that would be near the pit entry road ..

SPman
01-11-2016, 06:53 AM
Amazing how many cars went off over the hill - small Fords a speciality!

Aron Peters
02-08-2016, 01:35 AM
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Aron Peters
02-08-2016, 01:49 AM
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Aron Peters
02-08-2016, 01:50 AM
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TonyG
02-13-2016, 12:10 PM
This article was here before John.
Its by James Meale, the same gentleman who wrote the article above on your car and was in the Monaro Club Newsletter.
He is happy for it to be linked to this thread.

http://www.motorsportretro.com/2012/04/norm-beecheys-holden-monaro/

Jac Mac
02-13-2016, 08:05 PM
I see in post #688 the Perana Team Gunston Capri used GW heads, something some of the local cars should think about, probably not much power increase over the modern Cast Iron stuff currently being used, but getting rid of ~40lbs over the front axles would be a help.

Steve Holmes
02-14-2016, 10:34 PM
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Awesome stories Aron, thanks for posting. This thing is a beast!

Terry S
02-16-2016, 04:47 AM
I see in post #688 the Perana Team Gunston Capri used GW heads, something some of the local cars should think about, probably not much power increase over the modern Cast Iron stuff currently being used, but getting rid of ~40lbs over the front axles would be a help.

As I understand it these Gurney Weslake heads were developed for Fords (302 and 351). Little work was done for other makes.

They are quite expensive now, which may be a good off-putter. See attached add for a whole engine at USD 42,500.
http://www.racingjunk.com/Engines-Components/182399170/Historic-Gurney-Weslake-Engine.html

I love the words in the ad about another engine they have for sale, "a stratospherically rare Weslake Chevrolet 32 valve engine".

SPman
02-21-2016, 12:57 AM
Looks very nice - wonder how it runs...........

Oldfart
05-07-2016, 10:09 PM
Not wrong about "asinine questions" !

Bailey
05-07-2016, 10:57 PM
Barry Algies HK 327 Monaro, original and unrestored , which he owned since 1974 just sold on Trade Me for $107,200 after a long brisk last minute bidding.
The reserve was $95K and the buy now was $100,000. Car came with new panels- came from Schofields- had a new rear right guard which in itself would be a big dollar item on ebay.au
Absolutely a brilliant collectable car, low owner, low mileage, genuine Bathurst model, that had been garaged.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/holden/auction-1076544572.htm

Would have enjoyed seeing Barrys replies to the asinine questions asked by all the so called Monaro experts who as usual never bid.


Great car Barry, it had a lot of history, looked neat when I first saw it in 1974 in your workshop,and still looks tough and ready do the hard yards. Does not deserve to end up as a trailer queen.


Too right John, that car had some history for sure. If Barry and Ian told them all, it would fill pages on this thread.
Luckily for them a 327 ci small block with a green Duntov could easily outrun what the revenue collectors used in
those days. Ned Kelly would have raised a smile for sure

Hard to believe he's no longer with us RIP

kiwi285
05-31-2016, 05:00 AM
Right HMC fans here are some of the photos of John's Monaro as it has progressed thru the paint shop. I loved that colour scheme in period and I think it looks just as fresh and appealing today.

http://i64.tinypic.com/nce52u.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/2vcxizb.jpg

Keep your eye peeled for later in the week when the colours start going on

Grant Sprague
05-31-2016, 06:40 PM
So cool ............. well done ....thanks for sharing this from dot one , for those of us that remember the car this is very exciting to see the original car being reborn..........

Steve Holmes
05-31-2016, 07:22 PM
I agree Grant, especially impressive when you see what John started out with. That car was in very bad shape and many would have given up before they started.

kiwi285
06-01-2016, 05:03 AM
This is what the car looked like when John located it and made the purchase. Most people would have walked away saying the project just wasn't worth the effort and costs. You are a champion John.

http://i66.tinypic.com/14ob1h2.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/fxtmvn.jpg

kiwi285
06-01-2016, 09:12 PM
Here is the gold paint being applied to the car. All that masking for about 10 minutes application. These fancy schemes cost money.

http://i68.tinypic.com/3359u2u.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/29vf9l5.jpg

SPman
06-02-2016, 12:25 AM
Shit oh dear.....that puts all the effort into perspective! Well done that chap.

kiwi285
06-03-2016, 10:41 PM
Here are a couple of shots of the blues going onto the car. What is known as a slow reveal.

http://i67.tinypic.com/a09hch.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/1111qp0.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/2up5wmb.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/262a83r.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/63xb49.jpg

Jac Mac
06-04-2016, 01:27 AM
I think there might be some 'Royal Blue' Epiglass marine paint still down in the shed, probably bought a bit after this cars time frame though.

John McKechnie
06-04-2016, 02:18 AM
Jac Mac- save in case theres a dust up down there.........

khyndart in CA
06-04-2016, 03:48 AM
John,
(Morrinsville. 1969 )
Ol' Bob probably had a cigarette packet by the paint booth and eye balled the colours, Spinner would have been telling him to hurry it along and " near enough is good enough" was how it finished up !

You are doing a marvelous restoration. Well done.


(Ken H )

Jac Mac
06-04-2016, 06:04 AM
Jac Mac- save in case theres a dust up down there.........

Are you going to be in the same race as Demolition Dale?:rolleyes:

kiwi285
06-04-2016, 07:21 AM
Here is the photo of John's Kawasaki 500 fuel tank.

http://i68.tinypic.com/25s4emq.jpg