The later version of the 1959 Volpini FJ was not off set and a bit sleeker.
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The main USA Dealer for Italian Formula Junior racers in 1959.
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(Note who was in charge of the competition department.)
(Ken H )
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The later version of the 1959 Volpini FJ was not off set and a bit sleeker.
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The main USA Dealer for Italian Formula Junior racers in 1959.
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(Note who was in charge of the competition department.)
(Ken H )
Italian, Berardo Taraschi did an amazing job after WW 2 building cars using surplus war materials, that competed in the Sport 750 Category in the Targa Florio starting in 1948 with his 2 seater car named the "Uraina" model.
Uraina cars were built from 1947 to 1949 and were based on the Fiat 500 Topolino tubular chassis and had BMW motorcycle engines. Berardo Taraschi later merged these cars with Giannini engines to form Giaur.
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1947 750cc Sport BMW Boxer
He also produced a Formula 2 car in 1947 with a Roots supercharger and a 500 cc BMW engine.
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1947 500cc Supercharged F2 BMW Boxer
(Ken H )
The Taraschi cars over the years.
•Urania 750 Sport (1947)
•Urania 750 Sport (1948)
•Urania 500 F.2 Compressor (1948)
•Urania 500 rear engine (1949)
•Urania 750 Sport (1949)
Giaur •Giaur 750 Sport (1949)
•Giaur F3 500 (1949)
•Giaur 750 Berlinetta (1950)
•Giaur 750 Sports Champion (1953)
•Giaur 750 Berlinetta San Remo (1954)
•Giaur 750 Red Blitz (1954)
•Giaur 750 Record (1954)
•Giaur 750 Single Seater (1955)
•Giaur 750 Sport Record (1956)
•Giaur 750 Sport G2 (1958)
•Giaur 1100 Junior (1958)
Taraschi •Taraschi 1100 Junior De Dion (1958)
•Taraschi 1100 Junior independent suspension (1960)
•Taraschi 1100 Junior USA (1960)
Some Taraschi Urania photos.
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Famous Italian women driver Maria Teresa de Filippis competing in the 1950 Targa Florio in her Urania.
A short clip regarding Maria Teresa de Filippis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK_W5wCZw9E
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Still attracting attention today from all ages.
(Cliff Reuter photos and the Taraschi collection.)
(Ken H)
I love the optimism of those BMW rocker covers out in the breeze!
Which 750 engine did he use?
Ray,
Giaur was formed in 1950 by Berardo Taraschi (previously of Urania) and the Giannini brothers, the name coming from GIAnnini and URania. The engines were originally Giannini units, and Crosley engines were later used in America. They raced throughout Europe in races such as the legendary Mille Miglia and also competed heavily in American SCCA racing. Only 48 cars were made, 13 were the 750cc "Champion" which had removable fenders and were therefore eligible for both the Italian formula 3 series (open wheel 750 cc) and sportscar races. Only five Giaur Champions are known in the world today. Following the second world war Giannini continued to develop the small Fiat engines, especially the OHV unit from the 500B. They then went on to develop their own engines, first the G1, a sohc 660cc and later the G2 which was a dohc 750cc.
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A Giannini 750cc dohc G2 engine.
(Ken H)
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1950 Giaur at 1952 Targa Florio_ Francesco Donato
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Enterprising lads, Ken...
It's wonderful to plumb the depths of these various endeavours.
In the 1954 Mille Miglia the DeAngelis brothers competed in their Teraschi Giaur 750 Sport in the Sports 750cc Class.
Although the Panhard Dyna took the top placings in this class. http://www.mcpheatautomotive.co.uk/d...int/4577598170
The Giaur # 2337 battled to 12th place in their class and finished in 186th overall.
Here are some period photos from the 1954 Mille Miglia.
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Those Italians certainly managed to turn out some pretty little cars, and I'm told they did it in a very short time! Blending the shape to be so good on a very small car can't be easy! Maybe lots of ex aircraft skills?
I have no idea what it is but it was carrying one of the drivers in the parade lap at the 2019 Italian Grand Prix.
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Looks like it might be Renault 750-based...
But Fiat 600 is also a possibility.
Brake drums look more like early Fiat 1100 to me. At least the front ones.
Might be an early Renault Alpine?
https://f1i.com/wp-content/uploads/2...px-545x363.jpg
I'd agree with that, but both ends...Quote:
Originally posted by Oldfart
Brake drums look more like early Fiat 1100 to me. At least the front ones.
It's the height and placement of the engine cover that tends to indicate that it's built around a power unit that hung out the back and was a vertical inline four.
Here are a couple of photos that may help nail it down.
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Sure looks like REAR engined.
Also rear swing-axled...
Tried to resize - expand the photo but lost clarity - the chrome lettering on the nose has the right number of letters for
" R - E - N - A - U - L - T ".
That will fit in with rear engined - swing axle - R 4 ! - ? [ 4CV ] the 750 cc .. the 1950's era.
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4CV - a correction
Being an Alpine fanatic/rivet counter (not really a rivet counter) I know of no Alpine that looks remotely like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwaussie
While I would like it to be Renault, or Alpine, there are too many clues of other bits to not be one. Brakes for one, Renault don't have anything like it.
Italian GP suggests Italian origin, even though the F1 guest is a Renault based one according to the ha etc.
My gut feel is a lovely little later "Etceterini" special. Roger, R4 was front engined. 4cv/750,Dauphine, R8 or what the Ozzies call a 760 was rear engine.
The Aussies call them 750s...
Probably modern enough to be from a Dauphine, were they about 900cc?
The R4, Roger, was front engine, front wheel drive.
The 4CV was marketed in Australia from 1949-1961, initially as the Renault 760 and later as the Renault 750.[3] It was imported in both fully assembled and CKD form, with assembly of the latter undertaken in Sydney.[
Well, I did say 'Aussies call them 750s'...
My recollection of these dates right back to when they actually were selling them, and as a keen young kid taking an interest in every car I saw, with a father who knew what they all were, I would say my introduction to the 750 name was about 1951 and I have never heard anyone, not ever, call one a 760.
It would be interesting to see the relevant page in a Glass' Guide.
They were called 750 in 1953
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You remind me, Milan...
I have a small number of Motor Manual editions from that era, I can check them.
Ray and Oldfart yep had forgotten that 4CV, should remember as had a a rental R4 the '80's car - front wheel drive in Noumea in 1984Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Bell
I've found a couple of references to Renault 760s in early AMS magazines.
This from AMS June 1951
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This from AMS March 1953. The results of the ASSC's Clubmen's Trial
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Yes, I finished up going through the 1949 AMS binder today...
I found the road test (September or October, 1949) and it was referred to as a 760 there.
On the way home tonight I phoned Bob Winley, he's older than me and has a clear memory of this sort of thing too. He doesn't remember them ever being called 760s either. And he had a neighbour with a 750 'from the very earliest times', he said.
The other point I'd like to make about the little blue car is that the louvres over the engine do look a lot like the 4CV Renault louvres.
http://www.theroaringseason.com/atta...9&d=1577681419
Having Fiat brakes would have been pretty normal, I'd reckon, as the Renault ones wouldn't have been nearly as good and there was adaptation going on to get the wire wheels as well.
But surely, somewhere on the internet, someone will know exactly what it is?
I have tried communicating with the photographer, no reply yet.
Ray, if you went back to Aussiefrogs (yes I know) you will find a lot of references to 760s.
Oh?
Only since they did away with me, I'd imagine.
looking at this photo it appears if the nav/passenger is waving to the assembled masses and the driver is studying his GPS to see where the next corner is. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Ray Bell
Those Etceterinis would have trouble trying to outrun this police car.
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I have a project for whoever wants to help us.
From the sticker and logo I found this site that just needs translating (right click ) and finding this little vehicle that Milan has taunted us with !
ACI Storico home site.
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https://translate.googleusercontent....oY88kHNO2KhIMQ
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Originally Posted by Ray Bell
Being French-ish - even though at the Italian Grand Prix parade ... The Colour - French Racing Bleu / Blue .. ?? I think 4CV based [ forget my oops about R4 earlier - regardless I like it ..
Takes me back to Pukekohe GP late 1960's when this was the Clerk of Course car - forgotten who owned it - details I think on the Pukekohe Thread.. Milan Ken and others were there, no doubt ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Milan Fistonic
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Emails sent to see if we can resolve " Le Petit Bleu"
Be still, my heart...
Looking forward to hearing the response(s).
and the french number plate in #55
and the french number plate in #56 &58
Number plate maybe won't help, as you get a new one when you change address (arondisement) or owner.
It's a reason why chasing factory French rally cars (in my case Alpines) and histories becomes very blurred, might be a particular car with a new custodian, might be a totally different car. Sorry for going OT.
EDIT, I'm unsure that's a French plate. I have just gone through all the clubs photos on their website for 2019(none of the car in question, but lots of cool cars) and many of the older cars have plates like this one.
One more photo Roger for you to tell us what this vehicle is.
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