Motoring pics Vintage cars - early years, events from 1960's 70's and 80's

Hey Kevin,
I no where u wos !

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Walton area in 1979.

U thort if I lived far away in California that I would no nuffin !

Hey I can remember going to Ngarua school to play rugby for Kiwitahi and the Clarke brothers would come down to coach us little urchins. Ian Clarke showed me how to pack into the side of the scrum by grabbing my ankle. I do not think I washed the ankle for a week ! (I had been touched by God !)
Another time when Ian was driving trucks for Waitoa Transport he arrived at our quarry and the gate was locked while dad was out on the farm. Mum and I watched from a distance amazed as Ian just crouched down and lifted the gate off it's hinges, laid it down and drove his truck into the quarry and started loading it up ! (Another memory unrelated to this thread..sorry Roger. )

(Ken Hyndman )


KJH

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Originally Posted by khyndart in CA

Hey Kevin,
I no where u wos !

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Walton area in 1979.

U thort if I lived far away in California that I would no nuffin !

Hey I can remember going to Ngarua school to play rugby for Kiwitahi and the Clarke brothers would come down to coach us little urchins. Ian Clarke showed me how to pack into the side of the scrum by grabbing my ankle. I do not think I washed the ankle for a week ! (I had been touched by God !)
Another time when Ian was driving trucks for Waitoa Transport he arrived at our quarry and the gate was locked while dad was out on the farm. Mum and I watched from a distance amazed as Ian just crouched down and lifted the gate off it's hinges, laid it down and drove his truck into the quarry and started loading it up ! (Another memory unrelated to this thread..sorry Roger. )

(Ken Hyndman )


KJH

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All good Ken, related in that it is about people who own or owned cars most of which were old when we bought them, could not afford new ones and looking closer at the map, I think our " run " around the block was anti-clockwise so all left hand turns, remember seeing 95 mph on the PB's speedo, near the kink by the side road " Given Road " Garth would have been driving ..

Roger- was your PB the model that had the needle for indicating speed or the revolving tube with the colour -e.g.green 30-40. orange 40-50, red for over 60 mph and black for over 100mph?

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Originally Posted by John McKechnie

Roger- was your PB the model that had the needle for indicating speed or the revolving tube with the colour -e.g.green 30-40. orange 40-50, red for over 60 mph and black for over 100mph?

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Yes I think so, they had a fancy dash, The car was Bruce Fawcetts but Garth his son and I used to
" borrow " it, much as I would " borrow " my Dad's Mk 111 Zephyr .

Geez Roger,
I hope you were not driving like that when ( OLDFART) Rhys's Mum was driving these roads on her way from Matamata to Morrinsville to try and teach something worthwhile into us little urchins with brains full of mush !



(Ken Hyndman )

She was no slug either! In the 1930s she was driving over the Rimutakas in a Willys 88, and was only ever 5'1". She was happy touring all over NZ, often on her own from the 30s until she passed away in the 2010s.
One day on the way back from said Morrinsville she arrived home and asked me to have a look to see if I could fix the accelerator cable on her VW. I asked why, and she said it had broken, so naturally I asked how she got home. On the side of the road she had swapped the choke cable to the accelerator linkage and drove home using the choke lever as a hand throttle.
Later teaching at Putaruru she proudly told us that the Peugeot 404 was now run in and said she had tried it out to see what top speed really was. She was proud to say the speedo said more than the sales brochure said was top speed. That said 90+ mph!

Oldfart Rhys .. " brilliant " as Chaindrive would say ..

Enjoying the stories Ken H, Oldfart and Kevin Hirst, as made me think back and remember great things happening as a young lad.
Here are a few more pictures, almost the last of them..

1924 Rolls Royce, featured in a B & W shot earlier on..
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1930 Buick, a modern one compared to Dons 1919, featured previously..
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1929 De Soto
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A very English and large car , rival for a Bentley 1929 Vauxhall [ Hurlingham !! ].
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1924 Mercedes, a pair of photos, ready to leave on the days run..
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that is all for today .. the final few soon !!, back to you Ken H .. cheers

This is I believe the last, certainly of the coloured ones from the International Rally in 1972.. may have a few odd Vintage shots, but will need to find them, [ my usual comment ].

Leaving the gates of the park, Ford Model A at the gate, Mercedes in the middle and an Austin, I think closest to camera.
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a 1929 Essex Super 6, owned by B Ogston .. two views ;
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my handwritten list of the photos, must have borrowed a programme [ possibly from Don Osborne - 1919 Buick ] to get the information, in my terrible and then minute handwriting / printing.
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Another folder of photos can now be put away !!.

Take it away Ken H ..

Pretty sure that the Vauxhall Hurlingham is owned by Dick Langridge and is on display at his business- Metropolitan Rentals, Dominion Rd, Mt Eden.

The 1924 Mercedes was christened 'Monster', by its creator, the late Bob Pritchett [that's Bob, with wife/navigator, Phyl in the car]. He grafted the Mercedes engine and drive-line into a Crossley chassis. When I asked Bob when the car was finished, he said that he started the project in 1938, and drove to Melbourne for the 1956 Olympics...so somewhere in between. Bob was a founder member of the VSCCA.

One of the best examples of Aussie 'specials', and it is still regularly exercised by Tim Shellshear, in VSCCA events.

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The 1924 Mercedes was christened 'Monster', by its creator, the late Bob Pritchett [that's Bob, with wife/navigator, Phyl in the car]. He grafted the Mercedes engine and drive-line into a Crossley chassis. When I asked Bob when the car was finished, he said that he started the project in 1938, and drove to Melbourne for the 1956 Olympics...so somewhere in between. Bob was a founder member of the VSCCA.

One of the best examples of Aussie 'specials', and it is still regularly exercised by Tim Shellshear, in VSCCA events.

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Greg, thanks for you information, interesting car then. I thought that it was all Mercedes, the story makes it even more a " Special " Vintage Special .

I see your location is Southern Highlands NSW , we visited Tallong to stay with friends over Easter and went to the markets at Barrawong and to a winery at Berrima, a great part of Australia

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Originally Posted by John McKechnie

Pretty sure that the Vauxhall Hurlingham is owned by Dick Langridge and is on display at his business- Metropolitan Rentals, Dominion Rd, Mt Eden.

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John, thanks, believe have seen it there some years ago ..

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During a trip around East Cape and down to Hawkes Bay in 1971 came across the competitors in a Vintage Rally, photo's taken in Napier from memory

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Not on the Rally, seen at the roadside a Chevrolet truck which appears to be a cut down car, looking at the door edge.
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Our transport was more modern a 1966 850cc Mini, the sprint, hillclimb trial and gymkhana car on the weekend, daily driver during the week.

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Have realised that the event was in 1972 and been sent a copy of the front page of the " Official Souvenir Book "

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(Another memory unrelated to this thread..sorry Roger. )

(Ken Hyndman )

Just looking again at this thread, and comments by Kevin Hirst and Ken Hyndman about Walton and the surrounds.
Kevin and I actually met at Caffeine and Classics back in July this year and we both own MX5's the one he was in belonged to " The Boss ", his wife.
Kevin now lives " Up North " Mangawhai ?, and Ken you are in California, so I am now the closest to your old " Neck of the Woods " and in fact get closer as we visit Te Poi to stay on a farm and go to Matamata while there, plus sometimes pass through on or back from Auckland.

Must have a look through more " Vintage Car /Bike " photos to see what I haven't posted.

This one I have, it shows my TR4A quite early in ownership so Mid 1978 - before Russ Abbot,whom I bought it of fitted the three point roll bar -it had a inverted U mounting over the driveshaft tunnel and the side bars connected to the rear wheel arches. In another of the " Small World " stories - Had to get new tyres for my Suzuki SX4 and went to the local Tyre Guy at " Omokoroa Tyres and Alignment " next door to the Wof Guy and his name is Steve Abbott.
Turns out he is Russ's son and asked me later if I was into Triumphs - before I twigged who he was and the family. We are now locals in the same " Town " !!

The TR4 and a Motorbike at Manganui Northland back in 1978.

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I posted my photos of the 1972 International Vintage Car Club Rally a while ago on this thread.
Have just come across the " Nelson Photo News " photos from their Issues #135 February 1972 and #136 March 1972.
This is the same Magazine /Newspaper that did the Tahunanui Beach races, the Pig Valley Hillclimb and other Nelson Car Club and Tasman Stock car Club events.

Bringing the thread forward - nothing since 2018.
Photos of the cars in Nelson

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The first 4 pages - 3 more to follow.

As the headline said " The Old Ones are Coming " then " The Old Ones Arrive " and here they are :

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Posted again as the 4 pages of the March issue - Magazine " Nelson Photo News "

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The Cover of the Rally Book again ; Not mine although I do remember having one back then
Copy from John Manhire's archives - John runs the Facebook Page " South Island Motorsport ".

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Photos from the NZ Classic Driver Magazine issue #47 from 2013, by Tony Haycock.

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Static photo by Nigel Watts - posted on another thread.

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Action photo by ERC Ray Green at Chelsea Walsh 2015.

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Thanks TRS members for the " borrows ".

Richard McNair - son of Wallace McNair built the car a 1931 Riley 9, with the Gypsy Moth 6.1 litre engine - same as in Richard's Tiger Moth - aeroplane..

Have found some more photo's - to be scanned and posted - only 6 ..

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Posting them soon.

Been busy scanning and sorting [ ERC knows what that is like as do many others - takes time ] found the Hunua Hundred photos and a set of 8 or so from Gold Coast Indy 2003 - but not the Indy Cars - will post them on Lakeside [ my Australia thread ] .

Hunua Hundred 24th October 1971 [ coming up 48 years ago ]
- the 1930 Model A Ford that I was navigator in - Charles ' Charlie ' Liddell checking the Radiator, with me watching.

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At the park the finish - checking again - with other cars Charlie checking and my Mate Peter in the background.

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Another Model A Tudor Coupe and a Truck

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Yet another Model A - A Roadster

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Talbots Left and Right of a Buick

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Last one a Graham - Paige Coupe - looks like a DKW and Ford Zephyr beside /behind the tree.

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John Mck probably knows some of the cars -has worked on them ??

Charlie's Car is still on the NZ Register

" Year: 1930
Make: FORD
Model: SEDAN
Colour: Black
Second Colour: Red
Body Style: Saloon
Plate: BZ3656
Engine No: CAE404
Chassis: CAU1343 "

The accompanying photo on Carjam the Car is Red and Black - I do not remember !

" Year: 1930
Make: FORD
Model: SEDAN
Colour: Black
Second Colour: Red
Body Style: Saloon
Plate: BZ3656
Engine No: CAE404
Chassis: CAU1343 "

" BZ3656
Plate Type: Standard
Origin: NZ New
Used as: Private Passenger vehicle
Cause of Latest Registration: New
NZ First Registration: 05-May-1930
NZ Last Registration: Get Full CarJam Report
Was Registered Overseas? No "

Car was New in New Zealand in 1930. Most likely a CKD Kit out of Canada - the John Stokes Book "Ford in New Zealand should tell.

Recent photo of the car - duotone and with cream or white wheels ..

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Repost of the Official photo of the car - the start of the Hunua Hundred in 1971.
** Car has black wheels and I seem to think was only one colour " Black " at that time.
Carjam mentions Black with Red - so ?? - unless taken back to original, if known !!

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The crew [ Ken H's Gangsters sans guns ]. Sepia print to reflect the right age ??

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Ford in New Zealand - the book. John Stokes Fb photo Mark Three Zephyr - just like our family had 1963 -68 ..and the Author.

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why the audi and daimler in the last photo?

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why the audi and daimler in the last photo?

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928, your question ??
That is from John Stokes Facebook page - guess he likes them !! - I got for the Book Cover ..
Understand that John is writing another book on Ford in New Zealand, more about the Seaview Plant than the cars.

thanks

That Ford 'New Beauty' is the same as the one I went on my first trip to Boggabilla in...

No it's not! Ours had a spare wheel on a front mudguard. But it wasn't black, it was a very dark blue.

It was quite a trip, the exhaust pipe broke somewhere near Dungog and made it quite noisy until we got to Taree.

I remember this trip quite well, right up to when we went to play in the river at 'Little Bondi' between Boggabilla and Goondiwindi, but I recall nothing whatever of the drive home.

Oddly, I am the only person left who recalls the trip details at all. My 'big' sister doesn't remember anything, nor does my younger brother, my youngest brother was there, but only a baby and he died 11 years ago anyway.

It was certainly different to our previous car, a Chev 4 converted to a panel van.

Ray,
You will have to write a book, just the names of the towns / places, amused those I shared this with here at work today.
Cheers,
Ken H

Saw this today at Fraser Cove Shopping Centre, Tauranga .. no photo just noted the Plate

" Year: 1931
Make: VAUXHALL
Model: TOURER
Colour: Silver
Submodel: T80
Body Style: Convertible
VIN: 7A8HP0W0703756410
Plate: EK4
Engine No: 356025
Chassis: 2216 "

Car is now a dark green almost black - Huge Tourer and very tidy too !!.
John Mck - may know of it - done work on it or ??.

An interesting car - 1952 Standard Vanguard - a wreck provided the chassis and some components including the Engine. -Motor has been modified with TR3 parts and stated to have TR4 specs.

Body of the car is Fibreglass, by Ferris De Joux
If it looks familar - It is - as Ferris De Joux used the same body on his own Holden powered Coupe.

Photos from Sports Car World March 1964 issue -kindly given to me by BMC BOY [ Ross there were some photos cut out from other articles in the Magazine ? ].

Car was built by Kevin Lamb around 1963 -details from SCW March 1964 - Australian Magazine - article written by Grant Howard who was the New Zealand correspondent for SCW in the 1960's

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Photos a bit small - may try to resize !

This thread is called " Motoring pics Vintage cars -.."
The car is that now 1952 Chassis, mid to late 1950's mechanicals and created in 1963, Under the 30 year rule its a Vintage - wonder if it still exists.
Any information welcome.

Have gleaned quite a bit more about this car and the other similar bodied one - Bodies by Ferris De Joux - some details posted on the De Joux thread ..
Rumours are of a third car No1, Holden 6 powered - later repowered with a Holden 253 V8 - then ?a 350 V8.. however there is a comment that the Holden car was wrecked in 1967 .. sohis is there a third body - as a non Vanguard powered car - a V8 was for sale in 2013 ??
Questions, ??

Cigarette Cards - just going through my boxes of Motoring Memorabilia and uncovered these.
The Album was put together by my late Father when he was young - he was smoker so assume he collected them himself in the late 1930's the cards a set of 50 by WD and HO Wills and they are in a
" Three Caftles " - Castles but using the old fashioned for of the " s ".

The 50 cards take up about half the album - I had found some cards in another book but they turned out to be duplicates.

The " Three Castles " Album
and the Five pages of cards.

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Images were photgraphed not scanned - will see how they look and later scan both the photos and the reverse with details of the cars.

Have also just acquired the " Souvenir Booklet " from the " 13th International Vintage and Veteran [ Car ] Rally " held in New Zealand in 1972.
I took a lot of photos of the Rally group who went on Route 22 the Hamilton to nelson Section when the cars were in Napier - have posted the photos previously but will post some highlights and now have more details on the cars.

Booklet came from Tony haycock a Vintage Car guy and former editor of the NZ Classic Driver Magazine back in the early 2000's through to around 2015.
More to come on this thread.

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Have found 36 colour photos of the same Rally - taken on the ex-wifes camera from memory indicates the event was early 1972..as photos of the same car in the same place .. memory fade obviously in the original posts.

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With the Souvenir Booklet now at hand can more correctly identify the cars in Napier which I photographed some in Monochrome some in colour - was using two different camera's my Brownie Starlet [ square prints ] with the B W ones and my ex-wifes one as mentioned in the post - for the colour shots and maybe some B W too !!

The 13th International VV Rally .. the booklet and another book cover ..

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Just acquired a copy of this booklet too - set is complete of the Rally's publications - unless there is a further book with results etc.. [ 18 June 2020 ]
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My Mate the late Don Osborne and his 1919 Buick..
a Colour photo with Don standing by the car facing the Guy with his back in view.

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More to come on this thread with the booklet and the just posted Cigarette Cards.

Attended the Tauranga branch of the Vintage Car Club of New Zealand on Sunday at their Clubrooms - Cliff Road, Tauranga.

A few of the true Vintage Cars - made well before the current 30 year rule.
From the 1920's and 1930's.

Rover and Dodge
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Ford A and others
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Old Rolls Royces

Car that was sold as a Chassis in Australia with a local body
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Story board with the car
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Another older Roller
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1913 Brass fitting Model T.
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More from Tauranga, 1940's 50's mainly.

Alvis, the early one - was a later one for the 1960's group

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Ford 8 REV instead of FEV, or FEF for today. Rear End View.
Love the sign on the boot.
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MG's a 1950's TF and a 70's B GT
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Triumph TR3, 1958
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American 40's English 50's or vv..
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something unusual 1950's Dodge Power Wagon.
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1960's to follow

A very nice Graber styled Alvis Convertible ..

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" ROGBJ8 " - a slightly different photo from those posted on the Austin Healey thread..
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The TR4 - again
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A couple of Fords - A Consul Classic and a Corsair

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The Corsair - Had seen that car at a Greerton Vintage Fayre a year or two back.

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More to come - some Trucks and some Rolls Royce form different decades..

Mark One Capri [ not counting the Consul 315 based car of the early 60's ]

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Mark Three - Zephyr and Zodiac

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The Grant Sprague - recently rebuilt Mark One Escort alongside a Rotary Mazda from the early 1970's
It sounded great as it left the event.
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Back to the 50's with this Mark One Zephyr that was parked outside the event, next to my modern - he was there first.

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More to come - a mixture, including a Truck and some Vans..

The Zephyr Six in pale blue is a Zephyr 6 Special - the New Zealand only model assembled at Seaview, was intended as a Fleet Car and was missing some items on the normal Z Six - the grille does not have the body coloured centre-piece only a chrome strip with the badge

Ford AA Truck - the Truck version of the Ford Model A Car.

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VW Kombi - a 1961 model - was for sale

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A newer Kombi Camper and a Beetle..

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A little story that was on the back of a Ford 8 - seen in an earlier post.

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Part 6 to follow.

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Part Six and Six photos.

Last set will be from " Over the Hedge " .. as I was leaving, so were a lot of the cars!
Show ran from 8;00am to 2;00pm but from midday onwards there was an exodus and most of the Swap Meet cars and people had already gone.

Whangamata Beach Hop starts today with the Waihi Drive In Show - bad weather in the Bay of Plenty
[ Plenty of rain ]
- Steve Abbott the local tyre guy was getting his late 60's Plymouth with a 383 Big Block ready.
Giving it a miss - the Waihi Show because of the weather.
The " Beach Hop " got postponed from March to now but the 2021 event will be on in March again.

The last pics - what was left of the cars by 1;00 pm approx - lots had left

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" That's all Folks " .... 40 odd photos

V - Day meant Vehicle Day, on Valentines Day in the Pahoia, Omokoroa, Te Puna, Whakamarama area.
A local show [ mentioned on the AH thread ]. A lot more than the AH BT7 were there.

A selection ;

The Poster / Flyer
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The Organiser vehicles - Brian Kirk - the Bus.

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Steve Abbotts, new to him Chev Pickup Truck

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A very smart looking Plymouth Coupe

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The French connection two Citroen B15's " Big 15 " - according to their Rego stickers Not an expert but the one on the left looked bigger - It had a nice woodgrain dash, so an English built car.

They did came out as a 12 - 4 cylinder engine and a 15 - 6 cylinder engine and big 4 too !!
Need a French car expert.

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The closer car is this one which would be a Big 15 ? with the 1911 cc four.
Carjam details below
Not an expert on French vehicles but I know the model did come with a Six as well.
Both cars had the big boot, not just the spare wheel on the back, and have the 4 cylinder engine.

" Year: 1955
Make: CITROEN
Model: B 15
Colour: White
Body Style: Saloon
Plate: RW1487
Engine No: AZ09980
Chassis: 9555058
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car/Van
Seats: 5
CC rating: 2,000cc
Fuel Type: Petrol
Assembly Type: Unknown
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Industry Class: PRIVATE "

" RW1487
Plate Type: Standard
Origin: NZ New
Used as: Private Passenger vehicle
Cause of Latest Registration: Re-Registered
NZ First Registration: 19-Mar-1993
NZ Last Registration: Get CarJam Report
Was Registered Overseas? No "

The other car is this one Rego IS54 - supposedly an NZ New Car but Rego dates from 1979

" Year: 1954
Make: CITROEN
Model: B15
Colour: Black
Body Style: Saloon
Plate: IS54
Engine No: 19302894
Chassis: 9535524
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car/Van
Seats: 5
CC rating: 1,979cc
Fuel Type: Petrol
Assembly Type: Unknown
Country of Origin: Not known
Industry Class: PRIVATE "

" IS54
Plate Type: Standard
Origin: NZ New
Used as: Private Passenger vehicle
Cause of Latest Registration: New
NZ First Registration: 03-Dec-1979
NZ Last Registration: Get CarJam Report
Was Registered Overseas? No "

There were very few pre-war Cars - the Plymouth already posted and then there was this a 1930's Morris Minor.
Car is unregistered unwarranted and it would seem immobile.

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Fords were there in a big group,mainly Zephyrs, a Mark One, several Mark Twos - including the one towing a small period caravan, and a number of mark three's including my neighbours Rod and Pat Galbraith.
The Guy who owned the farm Tony, is rebuilding a Mark Two - it was there without enginbe or brakes so had two concrete blocks to hold the back wheels.

Z and Caravan

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A pair including Rod and Pats Mark 3

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A patina'd Mark Two - this is for Andy Thorpe who has a Farnham wagon also - as well as his Austin Healey

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Rod and Pats Mark 3 again - backing into place in the group.

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More photos to come once resized - Morris Minors more Fords and a mix of newer cars - 1970's mainly

Looking up the Hill, the main group of cars
A few more were to the left and right beside where the photo was taken
- more photos to come

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