99% sure the bones of it are still with Gavin BainQuote:
Originally Posted by David McKinney
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99% sure the bones of it are still with Gavin BainQuote:
Originally Posted by David McKinney
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Originally Posted by bob homewood
The back one is Rod Millen and the front one I think is Shorty James. Both were V6 powered. 'PJ" Paul Swann had same cage as Rods. Think it was a handycap race if remember. The rear one is definately Rods original Buggy before the big over at Andersons farm and replaced with SanPacer one, I did a couple of events in PJs back then.
Thanks Grimmy because the entrants list has Steve as the driver and Rod as the entrant ,the other choices from the list are Paul Swan and Kevin McNamara,also have you any idea what Graeme Henshaw was actually driving at the same meeting ,I am just trying to tie up some loose ends
Without checking anything (I'm in the middle of a house shift) the only car I connect with the name Graeme Henshaw was a twin-Mini special called the Gemini which, contrary to popular belief, had nothing to do with the ex-FJ Gemini (now with Jim Barclay)
Bob, If thats the entrants then you are right because Kevin (now theres a name/nice fellow) had a buggy also and Rod and Steve used to share the buggy and the "cob", and as said PJs looked similar to Rods with roll cage. Point about rollcage was it ended up with a steel plate above the driver so it could run at Western Springs with then sprintcars/modifieds. Soon got the heavho because it was not cool to have a beach buggy mixing it with the Big V8 boys. (and doing better than it should) Also it was rear engined and did not really look like a real speedway car. In hindsight fair maybe.
Sorry do not know/remember what Graeme Henshaw was driving then.
Hi Rod did Kevin have the dark Escort at BP, if so was not very nice to run me on to the sand at the righthander while was going around him. Perhaps he didnt see me???
That is a problem with Escorts Jim, a blind spot in the right rear corner, and they are a very wide car, as you are familiar with in old days. Was that on the slow down lap jim.
Yep he had the dark blue one which i think ended up with gravel rash on roof at one meeting at BP. Kevin was a pretty good little peddlar as well. a dam nice guy with it. Last I talked with him he was in Whangarei with a Liquor outlet.
Yes I slowed a little but fast enough to look at him in the mirror,the coolers were full of sand,, posibly his last race as never met him
Found a old (very) scrapbook at mummy's. It has alot of cuttings etc from way back.
Lets hope the Willis car will bring them back!!
Wont bring the Elfin out.
just reviving this thread
What happened to the Heron Daimler? is it still around ? where is it ?
just wondered. last I saw was a photo at port road sprint
From the Bill Pottinger Collection, at Wigram. Grahame Harvey in the Elfin 400 leads Scott Wiseman in the E Type Jag.
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I looked at the Heron Daimler with a view to buying it. That was when I was at university so must have been 1968,69 or 70. It was in Wellington (I seem to recall with Colin Roberts who I think raced a Mini?). It was a rolling chassis. It was reputed to have had some Lotus 33 bits in it (rear uprights and maybe some other parts) so may have ended up being parted out?
Talking of big banger sports cars and their whereabouts where is the ex Tyrrell Turtill Continental Special?
There is already a thread about it, including hints to its' possible whereabouts.
Type Tyrell Turtill into the search box at top right of the page.
many thanks for the info. that ties up with a rumour that I heard as well. if that is the case and it was sold in bits does anyone know what happened to the bits? ie engine gear box,(type) wheels, and so on?
the Heron Daimler was owned by Bill Robinson...he went to the UK and was working at Nicholson McLaren buildig Cosworth V8 F1 enginesQuote:
Originally Posted by rf84
thanks Perry, that name rings a bell, and the location goes with the photo i mentioned earlier in the thread. any more info out there?
Bill comes on here sometimes. Likewise some Friday nights at the Pioneer tavern near Kerikeri. Ironically we were discussing the Heron Daimler not the Friday just gone, but the one before!
Robinson left the car with Colin Roberts (Anglia, Mini and FF Brabham driver) when he went to the UK. Roberts advertised it for sale in 1972, though he may also have done so earlier without my noticing...Quote:
Originally Posted by rf84
The car originally had Heron uprights, but Robinson fitted Brabham wheels, so may well have added Lotus 33 uprights at the same time. The story was that the car was dismantled and the parts scattered, but Tony Baker himself believes it still exists in a Wellington garageQuote:
It was reputed to have had some Lotus 33 bits in it (rear uprights and maybe some other parts) so may have ended up being parted out?
Finally, nice to see a one-time Heron owner on here - welcome, Perry!
thanks old fart. if yo see him could you ask him to confirm what we know please?
thanks david that appears to confirm all that we know
if it was sold off in bits Who had the bits then?
No 33 uprights, had McRae uprights. Bill told me that if you look at the Heron website you will find a story on it and photos as submitted by Bill. www.Heroncars.co.nz the specific is Mk2/3
Thanks Dave....only recently found this site....good to see your memory isn't fading with age...more than I can say for some....isn't it amazing how our era has more interest than the current cars....can you imagine in the future trying to be keen on finding 50 or so current v8 supercars that all look alike
Thanks again old fart.I just had a look at the site and is confirms a lot of what I knew. great to see history of modifications carried out.
shame the car never ran again as a sports car. Now to find the missing bits Does anyone know Colin Roberts or where he lives? I was told that the engine went into a speedboat but?????
Here is a photo Allan Cameron snapped at Bay Park in 1971. I'm uploading Allan's collection on another thread.
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Just bumping this back up again ,has any more information come to hand ,David is no longer with us sadly ,but information that has come to me to be handed on to him suggests that the car was damaged at the end of a sprint and was then dismantled and parted out ,...anyone ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 928
what sprint, when,where
I'm not sure ,that is why I asked ,I believe it is being confused with when it got damaged at Levin ,as a point if interest did it ever run again as a complete car after that incident,as the informant may be partly right ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 928
I know that robinson won port road sprint in the car with no body fitted. that was after the levin shunt
OK ,did it get damaged at a later event again ,that is the only trouble with a lot of this information you have to sift through it ,did Colin Roberts race it after thatQuote:
Originally Posted by 928
do not know if colin roberts raced it
Thanks ,Oh well ,we will just keep chipping away ,like a lot of the other multitude of things sitting here waiting for a answer
Does anyone know which "Rorstan Climax" Davis was referring to? I wasn't aware any survived.Quote:
Originally Posted by David McKinney
I think that was the sorely-missed Fountain, David McK responding to an enquiry of mine about the Climax-engined Rorstan sports car that was slowly knocked up behind the showroom at Stanton Motors but I never saw running. I think Danie Lupp had it for a while. Looked to have some potential : last time I glimpsed it the nicely-fashioned body was still awaiting paint.
Hi Gang I am still watching.
Bob More raced the Rorstan with 2lt Vauxhall for a number of years in the seventy's.
And it was sold to the south Island and races occasionally in classic races.
Jamie A
??? from another threadQuote:
Originally Posted by jamie
Hi Gang.
Thanks Bry that is the beast. Still Bob and Josie now and then.
Jamie A.
Back in the 60's i remember going with Bryan Marshall [who raced a quick A40 ] to behind the Grey Lynn or Ponsonby shops to view a space framed sports car that Robbie Francivics friend and mechanic,Tony Krilitich [Forgive spelling,there is a e missing somewhere there !] was building,could have been going to be 4 wheel drive,but not sure.............any suggestions ?
Was that what wound up being the Katipo ? Seem to recall that was going to be a sports car but ended up being an offset single seater.