Great stuff, Ken...
Keep it coming.
Great stuff, Ken...
Keep it coming.
Because Ruth wrecked the Aston Martin of Stirling Moss, he was offered a drive by Temple Buell, a wealthy Denver oil man who "rented" a car for Stirling to drive in the Nassau Trophy race . The Ferrari 290 MM V-12 3500 cc ran well and Stirling went on to win the race !
I enjoy reading the entry lists for this week of racing at Nassau in 1957.
A week of 15 events with the best drivers in the world competing sounds grand doesn't it ?
http://www.wsrp.cz/nassau1957.html
I do have a question for Roger;
What is this car that Peter Collins drove at this event ?
# 18 Peter Collins (GB) Austin-Healey 100-6 Special #X224 - Ferrari 500-0540 L4 2600 cc
(Ken H)
Ruth Levy co-drove with Denise McCluggage at Sebring in March, 1958 in a 747-cc Abarth-Fiat in the 12 Hour race.
But after the two crashes and the loss of friends (Including Peter Collins) during the 1958 season, Ruth decided racing was getting too
dangerous and retired from racing after just 3 remarkable race seasons where she won most of the races she entered in California !.
Ruth had an interesting life even away from the track.
Some quotes from a Will Edgar interview;
" I went to Riverside once after that with my daughter Pam and we sat there in the esses. And I said to her, 'I've gotta get out of here.' I was a freak sitting there watching a sport I loved but was no longer involved in. We left."
After that, Ruth painted, sang in a bar, lived a hippie's life in Pagosa Springs, Colorado, cowgirled, cooked on a wood stove, herded goats, got married to a cowboy, divorced him, married a biker from Texas, lived in Fredericksburg for a while, painted some more, wrote cowboy -cowgirl?- poetry, got published, and moved out west to California again, to Solvang
" We're talking about fast times half a century ago, when the Speedsters and Spyders were something - really and truly something -and Ruth Levy, who learned to slide her ass around on Minnesota ice, was one of the best who ever drove them."
Darn. I wish could have had the opportunity to sit on her back porch and had a good chat with her, just 5 miles from home for about 8 years before she passed away in Dec. 2014.
Jackie has appreciated me putting these words together about her mother, "MamaRuth" and I have had fun doing it.
(Ken H)
P.S.
Is there much interest on TRS in the old California tracks and people that I prattle on about ?
I enjoy finding out about places or roads that I drive on plus the history etc and I like to share but I don't want to be a bore.
Your honest inputs are appreciated.
Ken H.
Just keep prattling Ken, we love it!
Will you get to Corona with it, Ken?
Even if you don't, we'll appreciate whatever you do...
Ken H
re ;
Question " # 18 Peter Collins (GB) Austin-Healey 100-6 Special #X224 "
The number X224 rings a bell .. must dig out my books. May even have a photo of it somewhere.
More to come on this
Roger
X224, Well a rather unusual car as that entry would suggest.
In Geoffrey Healey's book " Healey - The Specials " there is quite a bit of information.
Brief description above a photo of the car in the book is ;
" X224 a modified 100S chassis fitted with a Ferrari Grand Prix engine ".
The story is that Peter Collins was a good friend of DMH [ Donald Healey ] and he suggested the use of a Ferrari 2.5 engine.
The car had the following ;
- MGA Rack and Pinion steering.
- Ferrari engine and rear axle assembly - presume Ferrari gearbox
- Body on the 100S was the long nose version developed from the 1956 record breaker.
Only photos I can find, so far, are in the book and they are of the chassis with engine and one of the front suspension an steering. [ To be copied later]
Will keep looking ;
Meanwhile, The Healey Books, three of Geoff's and one of Donald's
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The Cover of the Book. the third of Geoffrey Healey's books on Healey and Austin Healey.
Front and Back covers;
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This streamliner / record breaker is an earlier car from 1954 before the 100S arrived.
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Roger,
I did find some info. about the X224 Healey/ Ferrari.
" This car was a six-cylinder chassis with extended front and rear bodywork and fitted with a four-cylinder 2.5 litre Ferrari
DOHC engine.
However it was not without its faults, such as when it had a full load of fuel the ground clearance was zero, so much so that the exhaust pipe acted as the suspension !
Despite this, Collins won Class D (up to 3-litres) in the car, but it was decided that the combination of the Ferrari engine and Austin-Healey chassis wasn’t a success and it was confined to history.
However the car was run again with a six cylinder Austin engine with Roy Salvadori driving and found to be quicker and more reliable."
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Sept. 2013 (Hundreds and Thousands)
The official newsletter of the Austin-Healey Owners Club of Victoria incorporated.
(Ken H)
Ken H,
" Thank you for your input " to your own thread. [As you would say " quote " ]
I guess you realise that I will need that information and image and will " borrow " them for the AH thread.
Cheers
Roger
PS
The background vehicles in the photo - a Ford Woody - late 1940's, a Morris Minor and an Austin A50 [ pre Farina ] Utility.
UTE in Australasia, Pick up truck in the USA;
What is the proper English word for such vehicles ? , as not big enough to be a Truck ?? .. " utility " or ???
Wikipaedia says that the A50 came out in the following versions ;
" 4-door estate
4-door saloon
2-door van
2-door coupé utility (pickup) "
So guess they are the " Coupe Utility ".
Photo by Bob Boxberger - Paul O'Neill archives ;
Question One : name the driver [ or just look at the photo - very professional sign writing of the numbers ! **]
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** name is on the photo title -just hover over the picture
Question Two ; for Ken H,
Is the Torrey Pines referred to, the place in San Diego, California ??.
In which case only a few hours drive away from Los Olivos.
Have driven from Fountain Valley LA, to San Diego and back in a day, back in 1988 in a Ford Thunderbird a Hertz Rental - the 1980's V6 model - I wanted a Toyota Corolla - size car, being from NZ, but got upgraded.
It was a good drive too for those big US Freeways, we took it up to San Francisco where we left it to catch the Amtrak to Salem Oregon.
Roger,
You are correct. Torrey Pines is located on the coast north of San Diego city between La Jolla and Del Mar.
You are beating me to my upcoming "prattles" about the Torrey Pines and Del Mar circuits.
Stirling was a guest at the final Torrey Pines event in January 1956.
(It looks like that masking tape was a bit difficult to make O type numbers !)
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Seems like Stirling was a naughty lad away from the track also !
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(From a 2001 article.)
Ken H..
Great story Ken H, and thanks for the confirmation / information " inputs "..
A map of the track and where it was back then - is that among your vast archives !! ??
Cheers
Roger
Roger, I'm interested in your note, "pre-Farina", as it gives the impression that there were Farina A50s...
The first Farina version was the A55, then came the A60. Later that grew two cylinders as it morphed into the Freeway.
The term "coupé utility" has been used in Australia since the beginning of the breed (1934?) but the 'coupé' part is usually omitted. The A50 utility was a fairly rare bird here, it didn't have the payload space of the Morris Oxford and it barely had as much as the Morris Minor if you weren't worried about performance. Of course, once Holden utes hit their stride there weren't many competitors sold all that well anyway.
Ray Bell
re; " Austin A50 [ pre Farina ] Utility. " perhaps I should have said Austin Cambridge which came in A40 A50 A55 and A60 variants.
Cheers
Back to Torrey Pines. January 1956.
I found a short silent movie of racing at the last race at the circuit before it was changed into a famous golf course.
https://vimeo.com/19175198
Phil Hill ; Ferrari 500 Mondial #0438MD - Ferrari L4 1998 cc N/A before painting his # 82 on after driving the car up from Los Angeles and then driving home after the racing
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I added this site to so one could use it to identify some of the cars by the numbers
https://www.racingsportscars.com/pho...956-01-15.html
Ken H
The amazing Mr. Moss
You may notice in the Torrey Pines movie seeing briefly Stirling Moss relaxing and wearing a set of Mickey Mouse ears.
This was on January 14th 1956.
On January 7th 1956 Stirling was driving his Maserati 250F / Maserati 2497cc 6cyl # 7 to victory in the Third NZ NZGP at Ardmore.
He probably celebrated for a day or so and then droned his way across the Pacific in possibly a Super Constellation to Los Angeles and then visited Disneyland which had recently opened in July 1955.
That would be where he got the "Mickey Mouse ears.
Then he comes down to Torrey Pines and drives a few laps in a Healey 100S before getting put in the "Slammer" for speeding around
San Diego.
Never a dull moment with our Stirling !
Ken H
A great clip Ken H, and a couple of Healey's in the event Mr Moss in the 100S and a red 100 [ four ] with taped over front of the wings.
" You may notice in the Torrey Pines movie seeing briefly Stirling Moss relaxing and wearing a set of Mickey Mouse ears.
This was on January 14th 1956. "
He was a busy boy, and a bit of a ladies man too !!
Thanks for all the information, Ken.
More for my Healey archives. The chassis number is great to have [ see note below ]
:cool:
More ;
From the entry list the car was owned by a W Pringle as raced by Roy Jackson-Moore. In the list of cars with photos I see it is Chassis AHS3508- a very early car and S Moss is listed as DNS.
Great stuff Ken
Thanks again.
Roger
Ray,
We are aging !
Remember this thread last year ?
http://www.theroaringseason.com/show...st+race+tracks
(From post # 392 )
Ken H..
A bit about the Torrey Pines course.
(2008 Golf Digest )
"The site was formerly an army camp.
In 1940, fearful of a Japanese invasion, the federal government leased 710 acres of the Torrey Pines mesa from the city of San Diego for $1 per year, as well as 500 adjacent acres from private landowners, to create an artillery training camp. Camp Callan opened in January 1941, 11 months before Pearl Harbor and the American entry into World War II. It became a city of 15,000, with paved streets and nearly 300 buildings, including three theaters and five chapels.
Less than three months after the Japanese surrender in August 1945, the camp was declared surplus and the lease terminated. The feds then sold all the buildings to San Diego for $200,000, a princely sum at the time."
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After the buildings had been razed, the streets of Camp Callan remained, and with the use of some rubber cones and hay bales, it became the Torrey Pines Race Course in 1951, a twisting, turning 2.7 mile circuit on which both sports cars and grand-prix racers competed. There is nothing left of the race course today, but old-timers recall the start-finish line somewhere in the vicinity of the eighth green of the South course. Drivers headed north, turned left (across what is today the sixth fairway) on a loop that headed toward the ocean, then away from it (east on the first fairway of the North Course). Turning north again, the race track soon made two right turns to head south on a long "straightaway" (which had a couple of jogs in it) parallel to the Pacific Coast Highway (now Torrey Pines Boulevard). Today, that straightaway is occupied by a small practice range, parking lots, the Torrey Pines Lodge, a Hilton hotel and many office buildings. The final loop crossed somewhere along the ninth and 15th holes.
In 1955 it was decided to convert the raceway into 36 golf holes. Its last race was conducted in January 1956, "
To be continued..
(KH)
In this shrunken Google image the race course wound around in the green area that is now the Torrey Pines Golf Course.
My wife worked at the University on the upper right.
In the lower right is Black's Beach. Black's Beach is a famous clothing-optional beach !
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I worked a bit further North at Del Mar German Car Service in 1978 when the main brand was Volkswagen and I got my first taste of BMW.
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This shows how close we worked North of Torrey Pines.
Our workshop was at the lower left across the road from the beach. A great spot !
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This is what happens when a race circuit is taken over by a golf club.
The only driving now is along what was once the main straight area of the Torrey Pines Road Race Course.
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( Ken H )
Ken H,
Great history / geography lesson, and a plan of the track - well done and thanks.
Borrowed some of your information for the S Moss 100S at Torrey Pines story on the Austin Healey thread.
There must be hundreds if not a thousand or more lost tracks in the USA.
Cheers
Roger
Roger,
I found another Torrey Pines map for you from the 1952 program.
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In the under 1500 cc class I noticed a Simca 8 doing well in the races.
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This explains what a Fiat "Huita" is.!
[SIZE=3]1952 Simca
The Barlow Simca 8 Special The Overlap of the Hot Rod and the Sports Car Cultures Growing up in the late 40’s and early 50’s we dreamed of custom “Hot Rods”…. modified 32 Ford roadsters with performance enhancement from Holley, Edelbrock, Iskenderian and others. Foreign sports cars were beginning to make their presence know, but for us, an American hot rod was the dream and California was the place where it was all happening. California was also the home of the man whose vision and ingenuity would merge hot rod technology with the emerging foreign sports car racing craze. His name was Roger Barlow, a mechanically minded Minnesota farm boy who had moved to southern California and was now the owner International Motors. Barlow once wrote that while hot rods had many virtues including low cost and excellent acceleration, control and superior road handling was not among them. He preferred that his “street rod” as he called it, come from Jaguar or Porsche. He also recognized that as competition intensified in the fast growing sports car road racing arena, more and more cars (often called Specials) were being modified to enhance performance. After sizing up the competition, Barlow concluded that the highly competitive 1500cc class was vulnerable and decided to build a “Special” sports car designed specifically for competition in the class; an adaptation of hot rod building technology to a modern sports car. His vision became known as the Barlow Simca 8 Special. Starting with a Simca “Huit” sport convertible Barlow removed the beautiful but ponderously heavy body. The frame was then widened to allow for a lower seating position. The engine was moved back six inches and the radiator moved forward by the same amount to obtain better weight Roger Barlow 1932 Ford roadster "Hot Rod" Simca "Huit" Sport 2 distribution. To help reduce unsprung weight, Borrrani-Rudge light alloy wire wheels were fitted that also helped to cool the powerful Simca hydraulic brakes allowing more air to reach the finned aluminum drums. Finally a feather light aluminum shell fashioned by master body builder Emil Diedt and cycle style front fenders were fitted. While absent the typical compound curves found on many sports cars, the body painted a light sky blue had a graceful appearance that made ingenious use of the original Simca grille. The original Simca 1390cc engine underwent high performance tuning by ace engine mechanic Bill Pringle. Adopting standard hot rod builder technology, the aluminum cylinder head of the engine was milled, ported and relieved. Next the flywheel was lightened and stiffer valve springs were fitted. To top it off, two Weber carburetors were installed on an Abarth manifold and the cooling fan was removed. The result was a thirty percent increase in bhp and a compression ratio boosted to 9.25:1. The Barlow Simca Special made its’ first race appearance at the 2nd Annual Palm Springs Road Races on January 4, 1951 where it failed to finish due to a transmission failure. From there it was entered in the Pebble Beach Cup race at the Pebble Beach Road Race on May 27, 1951 where Barlow finished 1st in class and 5th overall. The Simca Special was next entered in the two day racing event at the Carroll Speedway in Gardena, California. On July Saturday the 27th Barlow finished 2nd in the Trophy Dash and was winner of the S1.5 and the Match Race events on Sunday the 28th. Barlow The Barlow Simca 8 Special as it appeared before the fitting of the Dielt light weight aluminum body. A glimpse of the highly modified Simca engine in the Barlow Special with bonnet removed. The completed body of the Barlow Simca 8 Special featuring the adopted Simca grill. 3 next entered the car in the August 26th races at the SCCA Nationals in Elkhart Lake where he finished 1st in class and 13th overall. Barlow and the Simca Special went on to race at the Reno SCCA Nationals and in Palm Springs both in October ending the year at Torrey Pines in December taking 1st in class at every event and the SCCA Class Championship. The Simca Special was again in Elkhart Lake for the 1952 Kimberly Cup Race but by then time and competition caught up with the highly modified car and Barlow finished nearly three minutes behind the OSCA of Bill Spear and the Porsches of Karl Brocken and Johnny Von Neumann, all unmodified factory sports cars. So was the Barlow Simca Special a Hot Rod or a sports car? I think the only conclusion one can come too is that it was despite Hot Rod like modification, it was pure sports car. Hot Rods were built for the most part on lowered frames of American cars with little attention paid to cornering agility. They performed at their best racing down a long and straight drag strip. Sports car used suspensions that were built for superior handling on roadways curving both left and right. If you start with a sports car frame and suspension, not matter how many other components are modified, it is still a sports car. Note: The term “Huit” in the Simca name is French for eight. The Simca “Huits” all used 50 bhp engines. In French “road horsepower” terms, 50 bhp translates to 8 road horsepower, hence the Simca “Huit” or Simca
I think you'll find that the Simca's original capacity was 1290, not 1390cc...
Ray,
Yes you are correct as it probably started as a 1951 Simca 8 type 1.22 cc engine and Roger Barlow then worked on improving the performance from that unit
Whatever he did it worked well for him !
(Ken H )
Lucky man...
When I played with Simcas I found their heads to be awfully soft.
Maybe mine was too for continuing to play with them for so long.
In December 1952, Phil Hill arrived at Torrey Pines to drive a 1952 Jaguar XKC 120 (C-Type)# 2 for the local Jaguar dealership owned by Charles Hornburg.
Not only was Hill an excellent driver but also helped prepare the car on race day.
Preparing the C-Type for the big race parked beside the Simca Special.
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More of Phil Hill in 1952 at Torrey Pines in the C-Type Jaguar # 2
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Basic work conditions in the paddock before the race.
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Hill at the start line next to Skip Swartley in his Allard J 2X- Oldsmobile # 7
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Hill coming up to lap the XK 120 Coupe # 35 of Harry Jones
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Phil Hill racing ahead in the lead. December 1952.
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2017. The same car that Phil Hill drove at Torrey Pines.
1952 Jaguar C-Type
Sold For ; $5,285,000 (WOW !)
Inclusive of applicable buyer's fee.
Lot Location: New York, New York
RM | Sotheby's - NEW YORK - ICONS 6 DECEMBER 2017
Chassis No.
Engine No.
Gearbox No.
Body No.
XKC 007
E 1009-8
JH 10416
K 1009
One of only 53 examples built.
Do read this; https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/n.../expandGallery
(Ken H)
It looks like it's just out of the body shop!
I like the pics of Phil playing under the bonnet...
Some well known drivers raced at Torrey Pines in the early days of their careers.
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For instance, Dan Gurney, whose racing exploits began with a Triumph TR2 at Torrey Pines in San Diego, 1955.
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Ken Miles driving his well known Flying Shingle.
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Carroll Shelby. # 20. 1953. Ferrari 375 MM.
( Ken H..)
Love " Flying Shingle " - Ken Miles was one great driver and engineer, has a good name too Mr Hyndman !! :cool:
Seeing Ken's photo of Ken Miles in Flying Shingle, made me do a bit of looking up in my American books.
I like the car and interested in its construction and competition history.
Ken's photo
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Photo from" Road Racing Specials " a book published by Vintage Motorsport - an American magazine publisher, I got my copy by Airmail in 2003 [ RRS ]
Front view showing the engine through the bonnet bulge.
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Specifications of the car from the book " vintage american road racing cars " by Motorbooks in 2004- the title is in lower case [ VARRC ]
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The car had its first meeting at Willow Springs in February 1955 - I am sure Ken will have details on this track too !!
This photo from Santa Barbara Airport meeting 29th May 1955 RRS book - photo title refers to the previous page in the book.
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Ken won at Torrey Pines in October 1955 and again in 1956
A photo from that track in 1956 from the VARRC book.
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A montage of photos of the car including more recent racing at Monterey -driver not known.
Ken Miles was sadly, killed at Riverside in August 1966 testing a Ford GT40.
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The J-car...
Forerunner to the 7-litre Ford GTs which won at Le Mans.
Al Moss, the founder of Moss Motors and Ken Miles were good friends and fierce competitors on the tracks of Southern California.
I notice Ken must have liked to have a car numbered 50 throughout his career.
See in previous posts # 51 t0 58.
Here is a Kurtis 500 that raced at Torrey Pines.
Apparently $6000.00 in 1956 is worth about $ 30,000.00 today but then I was never any good with numbers or money !
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A 1954 Kurtis 500S Roadster for sale in 2019 at Monterey.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/CA0819-38...500s-roadster/
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(Ken H)
The engine in that first Kurtis 500 is an interesting choice in America, Ken...
A 1500cc Ford OHV engine at that time could only have been the Consul engine, which I wouldn't have thought would have been so prolific on US shores. And then you have to ask, 'What gearbox might have been employed?'
Much more recently I saw a lovely Kurtis Buick in Michigan...
https://i.postimg.cc/QxGnPwzk/0605-01-billscurtis.jpg
I thought this was a very evocative car, thoughts of Carrera Panamerica and all that. Who knows, it might also have raced at Torrey Pines some time?
Sorry folks but the aforementioned Bill Murphy 1953 Kurtis 500 has been sold.
It made for a pretty decent investment if purchased from the earlier ad.
For Sale: 1953 Kurtis-Kraft Midget in Saint Louis, Missouri. $595,000
A good history is described at this site.
https://classiccars.com/listings/vie...missouri-63146
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( Ken H.)
In 1952, local Porsche dealer, John von Neumann entered a very interesting Porsche 356 SL at Torrey Pines in 1952 in the under 1500 cc events.
I saw this Felipe Turlich photo of the Porsche and the Torrey Pines event noting the large crowd around the course after the start/ finish area. The caption did not mention much about this car so I thought I would check into the history and I am glad I did.
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Von Neumann’s first race win came at Torrey Pines in July 1952, which gave Porsche its first victory on American soil.
Some history of this car, that was built originally in Austria in the town of Gmund due to the fact that Stuttgart had been heavily damaged during WW 2 and the Porsche factory had to relocate for a time.
This car was built in 1949
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As the same car appeared at the 1951 Le Mans race. # 46
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(To be continued.. )
Ken H
" (To be continued.. )
Ken H "
Will be a great story - John von Neuman, was associated with Ken Miles - Flying Shingle and later the " Pooper ", and didn't James Dean get both his 356 and the " Little Bastard " 550 through John v N ??
Interesting that early Porsche's were built in Austria, where Der Fuehrer came from - was he really German ?? Well his Peoples car was designed by Ferdinand Porsche. I understand that the Gmund Porsches were very much handbuilt.
When the Porsche 356 Germund SL (for super light because of the aluminum body) 356/02-063 first competed in the USA in late 1951
it looked like this.
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"Then in a surprise move, von Neumann commissioned Emil Diedt, a very talented metal worker in Southern California, to remove the coupé roof to improve the car’s aerodynamics and to reduce weight. In a surprise move, von Neumann commissioned Emil Diedt, a very talented metal worker in Southern California, to remove the coupé roof to improve the car’s aerodynamics and to reduce weight. This was an age when a race car had a very short serviceable life, and once it had gone beyond its use by date, it was open to almost any kind of butchery or modification. There was no doubt however that Diedt was a craftsman, and he lopped off the greenhouse of #063 turning it into a roadster, reducing the car’s weight by around 50kg and significantly reducing the frontal area. Von Neumann also removed the front wheel fairings as, despite improving the car’s aerodynamics, they restricted airflow to the front brakes causing them to overheat..
Here are some of the specs that kept the car in the Le Mans 1100 cc class.
Technical specifications: Porsche 356 SL
Engine 4-cylinder boxer engine, air-cooled
Capacity 1086cc
Bore x stroke 73.5 x 64mm
Valves 2-valves per cylinder, central camshaft
Power 46bhp @ 4000rpm
Carburettor 2x Solex downdraught
Gearbox Constant-mesh with 4-forward, 1-reverse gears
Clutch Single dry-plate
Top speed 160km/h
Suspension: Front Parallel trailing links acting on transverse torsion bars
Suspension: Rear Swing axles located by trailing links controlled by transverse torsion bars
Tyres 5.00 or 5.25 x 16 by Metzeler
Weight 640kg
Length 3860mm
Wheelbase 2100mm
Track (front) 1290mm; (rear) 1250mm
Fuel 75-litres
The car stayed in this way for many years and apparently had a hard life although it looked well restored when it appeared at the
Laguna Seca Historic Meet in 1998.
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(Ken H)