i see bryan and his kid share the same hairdresser:)Quote:
Originally Posted by richard lester
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i see bryan and his kid share the same hairdresser:)Quote:
Originally Posted by richard lester
One calls her mum and the other the missus.
When Graham was running David Brabham the other driver was Mike Thackwell I think.
Hi Grant,hope alls good with you...pretty sure at that time other watson driver was parker johnstone from US...i was in my ex Bowe 81 RT4 and i ended up buying the David brabham 86 RT4 at season end......Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant Ellwood
Hi Rich, all going well up here in the backwoods of Virginia (apart from the snakes and ticks). I must have gotten the year wrong re Brabham's team-mate but I recall him partnered with Mike Thackwell at a Bay Park round. I was just looking at a photo I shot of them wearing Oz-themed yellow and green Flamecrushers we made in Tauranga. There was a great article about Mike Thackwell in a recent issue of Motorsport (UK).Quote:
Originally Posted by richard lester
Yep thats them, remember seeing them race at Manfield beginning of '87
I was looking after Davids car & Brett Lupton was on Thackwell's car.
These were new 87 model cars, David crashed his at Bay Park and reverted to the spare 86 model..........he liked the 86 car better
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Originally Posted by TonyG
Does anyone have any video footage of any of the pacific races from 77-84 in particular?
Did Andrea de Cesaris race in New Zealand in 1979 in a 782 or 78B March? I could not find any mention of him in the oldracingcars.com results in 1979 but have seen photos of him in a March 782 or 78B at Pukekohe and Manfeild. In 1980 he was in a March 792.
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This seems to be a setup used at Pukekohe, unfortunately, I do not even remember this season so, I can't answer fully, but this is what I have always remembered De Cesaris' March to look like from every other image I have seen of this car, these are borrowed from page 1 of this thread, from this series and both with and without nosecone, as became a little familiar, given Andrea's eventual nick name.Quote:
Originally Posted by ffdave
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The owner of the pale blue crash hat is Eje Elgh - he was here in Jan 79. Thackwell and de Cesaris were here in 1980 with 792s.
The crashed car was 792-23 which he crashed before Pukekohe 1980 and he used 792-19 at the first round at Puke. The other photo of the two 792's were their 1980 cars, 792-19 and 792-32 for Thackwell. So i'm still lost as to when the photos of De Cesaris in a 782/78B March at Pukekohe and Manfeild are from......Quote:
Originally Posted by seaqnmac27
Dave, are you sure it is de Crash? He and Fabi had identical colours on their helmets.
Only Fabi and Kenny ever drove the 782/B as I recall.
Mystery solved. It is Eje Elgh. He drove a Marlboro March 782 in NZ the year before De Cesaris and Thackwell ran the 792. He ran the same number #2 as De Cesaris and the same livery which led to the confusion. There were other 782/78B's in 79 also. Jeff Woods (USA) ran a 78B.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Clark
Ouch, what happened to the driver?
Went onto a long and relatively unsuccessful F1 career thanks to his fathers Marlboro links. Not a bad driver when all things considered. The Alfas of 1982/83 could have been a lot better and in 82 he could have won both Long Beach and Monaco, well no, he would probably still have run out of petrol.
Correct, I was at sreves the other day, he has the ex hiro matsushita swift which ran panasonic sponsorship, which sreve is going to reliver the car in, he also has the ex tom donovan, dave morrison typhoon, and damon hills first wings and slicks car, an ff2000 argo, among various ffs.
Ya know, I had completely forgotten Eje Elgh came to NZ, and I suspect, these are the only pictures of him racing in NZ that I have ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ffdave
Hi All,
Just some pics of Atlantic cars from the revival meeting at Ruapuna. Those swift DB4's are still an amazing looking racecar.
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As a generalisation, they looked better than they went.
Anyone else here there over the weekend?
I understand what you mean. I think 18 were entered, 12 made qualifying and 4 finished the Lady Wigram Trophy race....Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Clark
Yikes, really? 4 finishers? Its interesting, in period they were pretty reliable, unlike F5000 cars which were chronically unreliable. F5000s in historic racing are now pretty well bullet proof.
By the way, great pics Homer, thanks for posting.
No problem Steve, the quality is a bit poor..iphone camera. Just out of curiosity, how do historic racecars get away with cigarette advertising?
I'd been asked if I might like to help with the commentary of the Trophy race last Sunday - I was happy to help because a mate had asked me but wasn't especially fussed after what we'd seen previously over the weekend. When I arrived at the comm box, other arrangements had been made - which suited me perfectly at the time, and as things developed in the race, I was delighted not to be in front of the microphone.
They dropped like flies - a couple puttered around at quarter speed for a few laps, sounding awful before expiring. I don't know if the issues followed a general theme and frankly lost interest in trying to understand if it was a failure of BDDs, Toyotas or something else.
It was a farce - this is to take nothing away from Kenny's win. He'd been dominant all weekend and was the deserving winner. Another highlight was the Andrew Higgins Reynard decked out in a James Hunt/Hesketh livery - brilliant.
I'm no expert, but I recall a degree of unreliability stemmed from the total loss electrical system that some of the cars ran, way back when. I'm sure someoene more qualified than I can shed some light on the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Holmes
Yes we ran a luminition ignition system on the BBD and spent alot of time changing ignition boxs, come to think of it spent alot of time changing engines too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Habu
If a car was sponsored by a cigarette company in period, its allowed to wear that livery today. There have been some exceptions, I seem to recall a few years ago some old Holden Dealer Team cars doing demonstration laps at either Bathurst or another event, had to cover up the Marlboro lettering. Quite ridiculous really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homer
As I understand it, they can run in livery for NATIONAL meetings, but not for INTERNATIONAL meetings, eg Bathurst or Austrailian Grand Prix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Holmes
The bluring out of the tobacco sponsors on OLD footage shown on Bathurst tv coverage in recent times is complete b#llsh!t as far as I am concerned.
It is so pleasant to see the Winfield and Peter Jackson names on the works Nissans this weekend at Sandown...even though the weather is wintery and not what I came prepared for...but that's another thread.
I thought I might upload a few more Formula Pacific photos from my collection that I have been working on recently. This lot was taken at Manfield and most of these shots have never been printed previously.
Hope they bring back a few memories.
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As single seaters are not my forte, glancing through my own pics I find it extremely difficult to know what formula any car raced in, without consulting a race programme! I can generally recognise a FF and usually a FJ, even a Formula Vee, usually a F5000, but from the 1970's onwards, it all gets rather blurred. I may have one or two representative pics, but I'd hesitate to post them for fear of wrongly categorising them.
Therein lies the problem for me, with much of today's motorsport formulae.
Great shots Ross
Wow, brilliant photos Ross, thanks for sharing!
How can he see where he is going? The cockpit sides on this car are very tall.Quote:
Originally Posted by BMCBOY
#15 - the Cibie Lights March, is our very own H H Wood