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In 1982, a group of Kiwi's went to the USA, initially for an Austin-Healey International Rally, 30th anniversary of the first Austin - Healey, in late July ;
a group went on to Laguna Seca in August to go to this meeting ;
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Ken h, program and photo's to follow ;
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Car # 170 Ol' Yella II 1959 Buick powered Special, built by Max Bulchowski - Driver / Entrant here George Lehman / David Gibb.
David also entered a 1960 Austin Healey Sprite for Molly Gibb to drive #174 - now do I have a photo, must check.
Ol' Yella II has been to Hampton Downs in recent years.
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Program and Ticket : wow, US $20.00 for three days, arrived in Monterey Friday afternoon, straight to the track to watch some practice then the next two days there, all day, a lot of time spent at the Corkscrew .
Roger,
This will make you feel better and this is for just ONE day General Admission !
Hey, but the parking was FREE !
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Ken Hyndman
And we got a Pass and the holder too !! I believe, long time ago. Yes, Ken I do feel better, but wish I have gone there again in the last 33 years. Still have to get to Bathurst as well, on my bucket list and more easily done from QLD.Quote:
Originally Posted by khyndart in CA
Brings back great memories of a fantastic event with cars I never thought I would ever see.
I went again in 1986 when the featured car was Mercedes and I have quite a few photos from then too.
The events seemed very low key with open pits to spectators and the cars owners were very enthusiastic and friendly
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Great photos Ross,
Especially the Daytona at the water's edge.
(Ken Hyndman..I am trying to put together inputs on some events over here so any photos would be appreciated )
Looks like it might be Bob Slade checking tyre pressure ( T70 coupe ? ) in pic 2 of post #6.
Didn't mention here that BMC BOY was one of that group -Quote:
Originally Posted by khyndart in CA
" In 1982, a group of Kiwi's went to the USA, initially for an Austin-Healey International Rally, 30th anniversary of the first Austin - Healey, in late July ;
a group went on to Laguna Seca in August to go to this meeting ; "
Ross, great photo's mate and agree " Brings back great memories of a fantastic event with cars I never thought I would ever see.".
I was amazed to see Gullwings and my favourite was The little " Alfa Romeo TZ's " not one but several.
a great event as part of a great trip we did in that year in that VW Kombi.
The VW Kombi - complete with Kiwi Sticker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Dowding
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The Kombi came from Oxnard Ventura, and after Laguna Seca, went to Mexico and Vancouver BC, Canada - where I left it with BMC BOY and the two other Healey people, [ we chipped in 25% of the cost ] they then went South and East eventually finishing in Baltimore
[ BMC BOY can correct me on this ].
In the pits at Laguna Seca ;
Ol' Yella II the Buick engine
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1949 HWM Chev ;
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The engine HWM-Chev ;
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1955 Hagemann-Jaguar Special.
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Photo of the track in 1982 ; the famous " Corkscrew " is at top left. Frank Gardner likened it to " the Dipper " at Bathurst, as it drops away and you have to turn where you think it is not when you can see it.
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Ken Hyndman made me do it - is on his post too !!
The cover of the 1986 programme I went to in 1986 and also the cover of the programme that Frank Karl gave me after he went in 1990.
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Some Vintage Cars that were there ; The Auto Union 16 cylinder GP car did Demonstration laps only on both Saturday 21, and Sunday 22 August there are two cars here not mentioned in the program - can anyone ID them, one look American Indy style racer the other English Sports car.
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The 'English' sports car, is I think.... the 1928 Stutz DV Black Hawk. It came 2nd in the 1928 LeMans race which was won by Barnato and Rubin in a 4 1/2 litre Bentley. The Stutz was a straight eight of nearly 5 litres and American of course. The drivers were Brisson and Bloch. The car was 'lost' for many years after the race and resurfaced 40 years later.......oddly no one seemed to know what it was or its illustrious history....amazing. Value? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. :) [All of the above open to scrutiny]
The other two are I would say, were board-track racers..... the blue one definately on a Model T Ford chassis. The white one says its a Deusenberg......it has a twin plug head by the looks......interesting machines........and VERY dangerous.
Old Yella was there again this year.
AMC072, thanks, for the information - some of the cars were on display and even in the carparks, so nothing in the program and memory 33 years ago, half my lifetime is fading, thank the fact I have the photos and the program.. was an amazing time for a guy who had only ever been to Pukekohe, Baypark, 66 to 84 and Manfield / Ohakea,for the 81 reunion, plus Kerepehi for a grass track meeting in 1967, about 3 weeks after I bought my first car a 1960 Austin Seven [ Mini ]Quote:
Originally Posted by AMCO72
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Further to the above photos..... the tag on the number 3 car says Deusenberg. I doubt very much whether it is, not the engine anyway, as I think I am right in saying all Deusenberg engines were straight 8's........right from the very first one. Lots of those board-racers were Ford powered, and that machine looks to have an after market OHV head, Rajo etc on a 4 cylinder block. Interesting chassis though.
The give-away that the big black tourer ISNT English is the wheel knock-off hubs. The Germans, Spanish, French and American had these large spinners whereas the English and Italians went for the finer version, mostly 2 eared, sometimes 3. The Spanish Pegaso car had large 2 eared spinners which always looked to me to be out of proportion, but on the German Mercedes Benz cars they looked ok. Even on a Vintage Bentley, itself a large car, the spinners were much finer. I think I have seen pictures of the Stutz classic racing in modern times, but it is on smaller wheels.......probably sensible, as I imagine racing tyres for the large 21inch would be hard to come by.
I wonder if the Austin 7 Mini still exists ??
Thanks for the info - the program shows a 1916 Deusenberg Indy - race #3, 5400 cc Entrant / Driver John Thorpe / Nelson Thorpe, so assumed that is the car - there is no photo in the program unlike some other cars in each of the classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMCO72
The Austin 7 Mini, was sold to a school mate in 1968 [ by then had widened front wheels by Dave Jolley, twin SU's and a modified exhaust by Rob Williams of Allard and Ford V8 Coupe fame, mentioned in the Hillclimbs thread and elsewhere ] the mate rebuilt the engine and used it for a while don't know if it still exists reg was AW 309, as would have had the old style 2 years plates of 6 numbers when new in 1960. Plates were changed every two years and a sticker issued for the second year to confirm registration.
Monterey / Laguna Seca is / was supported by many of the " Vintage " racer groups in the USA, including this one
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Brochure from the meeting in August 1982.
A few more photos from Laguna Seca pits
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Abarth - not listed as an entrant.
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Abarth the engine
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Alfa Romeo GTZ - never seen one before.
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and here are three in a row.
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and an earlier Alfa - 1900 [ 1955 model ]
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more to come, trying for groups and a bit alphabetical ;.
# 194 John Lewis # 170 Don Davis
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#247 Ray Cooke, Vancouver BC Canada
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Arnolt Bristol - an Anglo -American an idea much like the Cobra's but British Chassis, American body.
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a Speedwell Sprite . Austin - Healey
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'scue the spelling in the captions, bad typing.
Coming up J, K , L, M and S,
Jaguars ;
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Kurtiss
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Lister - Jaguar
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MGA Twincam
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more to come later - the last that I can find at the moment.
Have never seen so many of these before; Gullwings.
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" Little Bastard " the name given by James Dean to his 550 Spyder
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Martini Porsche Vasek Polak Racing - a big racer back in the 60's and on..
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Gulf Mirage, modern for the day
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A little Italian - " bellisimo " 1952 Siata 1400
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That is it for the moment - have several sets of negatives back in NZ with my cousin - never printed, so that will be a long task.
Enjoy.
thanks to Ross Cammick for his shots too, we were there together, in the VW Kombi, known as " Chocolate and Custard ", complete with Kiwi stickers
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Have just noticed that the dealer details on the number plate surround for " Masterson " " Ventura ", well the Porsche 550 featured above #222 was raced by John Masterson from Ventura, California entered by the CA Vintage Car Co. so maybe the same guy !!
Cheers
Roger
Re ' That is it for the moment - have several sets of negatives back in NZ with my cousin - never printed, so that will be a long task. '
Have just found another set of over 20 photo's, so Part II will follow, soon.
Includes a few unusual ones which need identifying.
The 16 cylinder Auto Union that did demonstration laps
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Couple of unusual Porsches
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an English Hot-rod, a bit of Anglo-American - thanks Sidney Allard
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American Hot-Rod, NO, a 1946 Delahaye 135. had to scour the programme to identify and fortunately there was a B & W picture.
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A beautiful Coupe ; For Sale too !! Italian ?? or ???.
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The Pit area was full of non-racing cars, as well as a huge car Corral in the carpark with more great vehicles.
Just adore the McLaren in the backround. Was that the one that used to be in NZ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Dowding
I think that the red car for sale is a Lago Talbot
Thanks, Spinner32. Lago-Talbot seems correct to me, has a French look to it. ] The Mclaren a 1969 M6B GT [ race # 4, ] was owned by Jack Flaherty from Pebble Beach California, so not far to come for the racing, it is in the background in several of my shots.Quote:
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Italian combo Fiat-Abarth-Zagato tiny but stylish.
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Italian another Lancia B20
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Anglo-American and early American
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Anglo-Americans surround the McLaren.
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The Germans with an Anglo-German in silver, Pete Lovely / Vasek Polak Elva-Porsche
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Reposting the " Ferrari 250 TR pontoon fender "
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as has a bit of History - notes from the programme.
2995 cc ; chassis # 0718TR, ran at Laguna Seca by William Chizar.
" Owned by Ecurie Belge and raced by Lucien Bianchi, 1958 Goodwood fifth, 1958 Silverstone sixth, 1958 Le Mans dnf, by Willie Mairesse and Lucien Bianchi. Brought to California in 1959, raced at Riverside 1959 by Pedro Rodriquez. Bought and raced by Gordie Glyer.
Engines
Ol Yella II - Buick V8
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Ferrari Flat 12
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McLaren - Chevrolet V8
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Porsche, Porsche, Porsche.
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Some Ferrari's to follow, the last of pictures I have located.
Can't find the " flip ' function so this is as printed when developed in 1982..
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Red #46 around the right way.
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from the rear.
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Think this is the car that the engine featured in the Engines and Porsche's post above
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That is all I have for now.
any corrections or information appreciated as many cars racing numbers were not the same as the programme, and some cars were there on display only.
Roger has suggested I post some more photos from this event we both attended.
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