Now look what you have started George - the future sounds bright and people are eager to join in.
Now look what you have started George - the future sounds bright and people are eager to join in.
Great read George......got me all fizzy again. Now why would Gladdis not wanna do handicap? Sorry mate I just this minute stumbled on this thread. If we were to run in the same configuration as the 80's....well you may as well give me the trophy now I guess! LOL....Couple of things mate....Good on you for doing this.....(you should pop over to my shop for a chat and I may be of assistance to you). Why dont you run two scratch races and one handicap race...AS WE DID BACK THEN. This will promote a bit of racecraft with the back markers. There was a FIA ruling regarding speed differences..."they must be within 110 per cent fastest to slowest." The Jaguar XJS was never a Sports Sedan it was a Group A car. However, you would concider all 80s type cars on its own merit I guess. Rex Rattenbury would probably bring his Chevette back from Perth if asked....(P76 donk) My old Green car will be coming back to NZ fully restored to how I had it sometime in the near future. Oh and fancy forgetting Jim! And there were a couple of Mini's racing in the old SSA. Clive Gott....he had ex Silcock ex Millen Jag and in my view and only my view...bastardised the car by welding the rear doors up etc.As already mentioned the car is no more... Which quite frankly doesnt surprise me....Clives driving style is reminisent to Peter Meadows....F**ked. (I remember going to a Party in the back seat of that Jaguar..best sound ever....crazy fast road car as I remember blasting up and down Queen Street in the original Custaxie with a side valve V8 motor in it...even more crazy. I will see if I can track down any of the SSA paperwork down that was in my possession as the Secretary that may or may not be of help towards rules etc. Now as for being 30 years older...as for me I am fizzing and race ready after doing more laps than most at most of the race meeting from Taupo to HD and Puke and currently leading the Championship Points for Safety Car wins! (now I am going to find me a car....wanna come Jim?) See you soon George...(come over to the Shore). and good luck ... Kind regards. Tony Rutherford. Oh PS was talking to Graham Parks and he will be stuffing a V8 into something very soon as he tires of the red tape surrounding his current "class"......(which is Time Trialing around HD and Puke...............ho hum booooorrring!)
Hi Tony- is this you running the Mustang painted green at Hansells Sun Valley New Zealand Sports Sedan Series - Pukekohe 1989 ?Originally Posted by Jizim
If so there is a thread on it here showing the race. regards ,John.
Hi John....nah mate that was Robbie Kerr in the ex DJR car. I purchased the Pinepac Mustang...(the better of the two!) It was in Bruce and Wayne Pinepac Orangey yellow colour. And it was restored by Kenneth Hopper for yet another ex Pat Kiwi Brett Maddren from yet another Timber backgound whom now resides on the Gold Coast. The car was recently sold I believe for a meagre Au$175,000. It was by all accounts one of the nicest race cars I have driven and I had the pleasure of giving it it's first race win at a meeting at Baypark. Thank John....I will get picts to you in your glorious XA Coupe when I can grab a few hours of sorting through about 50,000 pictures! Regards, Tony R
Where`s the first race meeting in September George?
Well there is 3 at puke and 3 at HD and the September round 1 is usually around 6th at Pukekohe. ACC yet to confirm tracks and dates. Thanks. George.
Well there you go.........I am going to have to eat my words. Might be easier than eating apples with no teeth!!!
So the cars ARE out there, ready to go. Amazing. There could be more Sports Sedans on the track in September than Dales Muscle Car boys, and this has only been going for a couple of months. One has to wonder how many more old race cars are gathering dust in sheds round the country, just waiting for another 'George' to bring them back to life !!!!!!!!!
I will definitely be there to watch the ex Coppins Firebird and ex Marwood Camaro on the race track.
Also will take delight in seeing Barry Algies transaxle Monaro running also, and Gordons Alfetta again
Full marks to Bob Homewood for wanting to run his Escort again-that should bring the SS brigade out of the garages.
Gerald- did you so ready to go, still 5 months to get ready.
Go, guys , go, we can feel the excitement already.
At last, a potential grid at a race meeting I might well be going to as a spectator, but I might have to wait for the HD dates, as I don't think Pukekohe is now at all amateur photographer friendly.
All the more interesting for me as apart from the Alfetta and the Cologne Capri, the Viva and the RX8, in action, the other cars are totally new to me photographically.
Great work George.
Off topic, but Graeme Park is now running in the ERC Series. The Red Tape regarding Classic Trials is a bit unfair, as that is NOT a race group as such. It is aimed at classic cars driven at the owner's pace, or a stepping stone before racing proper.
Interesting comment about FIA handicaps being within 110%, fastest to slowest. That is just about what our two groups are currently, but if we combined them, it would be nearer 120% - but they used to run OK like that when we had the split by Sports/GT and Saloons. Splitting them by speed group eliminates faster cars starting from pit lane.
If just one driver objects to running in a handicap race, isn't the answer rather obvious?
YES............
Tony- are you seriously starting to get an itch to be a loose cannon and go racing again? Or did that video clip I sent really get you going for more hands-on action.
Have you got the meagre Aus$175,000 to get the Mustang back - would be a sound investment ,better than property.
Barry Algie was telling me today that you are an excellent peddler, and it would be great to see you doing it again
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John, Barry is right, but then Barry talks highly of lots of people. The only itch Tony has had lately was after a good night on the turps.
As for fizzing, remember Ruppie, it is a safety car doing 80kph so you would look tidy and as for mileage, you do more getting to and from the tracks (at a lot more pace). Seriously, be good to get back and play. Now Rex 'the rat' thats an interesting thought. He still has the lap record for Bay Park in Rally Car.
Tony I just got Biscuits phone number so will be intouch with him and maybe we can all get our heads together for an hour when I come on down that way.
Hey there Rod, yes call in or ph me and we can meet at Big bad Tonys if that's better. Hah ha I see you still remember the nick name from baypark. That weekend at Baypark there was that lippy bloody commentator who read out, and George sherry in the mustang, hey hes a drink or shrewsbury, hes a biscuit too, then later John Leafmoth in the Monaro. Must admit, to this day I still call John -- Leafmoth (and get an earful each time!!) Will you have the Escort ready in time for the first round in September, bloodyhell, its gonna be just like the old days!!!
George, heres one from the Graeme Bennett Collection of old NZ racing pics up currently uploading on another thread. Thought you might get a kick out of this!
Hi George, give me a bell sometime as I have a fair bit of info on most of the cars you are looking for, especially old OSCA cars.
Good luck with the class I know it will take up plenty of hours. It has been mentioned by others and some are against but what we found worked for our 40th anniversary meeting was to simply let any car that had ever raced at least one OSCA event in but with a committee of 3 to decide on eligibilty. The only thin we were looking for was an obvious performance upgrade that didnt exost back in its day such as putting a 750hp 14 degree crate engine in when said car only ran approx 500hp 23degree head engine.
As long as it looks like the car from a certain period let it in or as you are rightly doing give them a chance then see where things need to be tidied up.
Handicap racing will be advantageous as at the end of the day you are putting on a show for the spectators and its those spectators who will keep the class wanted by car clubs by coming to the tracks...just like all sport sedan classes over the years (possibly not OSCA) the guy that brings the fastest car wins and the rest soon leave the car in the shed...or start another class. Puke's straight aint as quick anymore.
Was probably harder for us down here but after nearly 2 years of planning we only ended up with 7 cars I think from a supposedly 17 confirmed or at least thought they would make it. Keep on them and keep them keen!!!
Cheers Munty
What OSCA cars do you know of that are parked up somewhere and have been for years,that could be put out there again.
I am pleased to announce confirmation of the induction of the Historic Sports Sedans into the Auckland Car Clubs Summer Series. This has given us the platform to launch this new class and bring out all those neat old race cars that were the only class that the race fans would stand up for!! The support and enthusiasm for HSS has been overwhelming and I am told long overdue. The ACC has now confirmed the dates for the summer series that will be 3 rounds at Puke and 3 rounds at Hampton downs with the first round being at HD 8th september 2013 through to round six Puke 30th March 2014. Each meeting will be 1 day events with 6 laps practice in the morning followed by 3 x 6 lap races through the day. Entry fees will be around the $200.00 mark. There will be an emphasis on driving standards and no biffing or bashing will be tolerated in this class as these cars are now valuable collectable historic race cars and are part of NZs racing heritage. Along with a good number of restored original cars not seen by the public for many years there will be some invited cars that are not necessarily to the proposed rules of this new class but are similar in looks that will also be competing on the day to help us bolster the numbers and show the ACC that their acceptance of our fledgling class is well founded. I have been told that if we have the numbers there is a good chance that we could be included in the HD festival of speed in january. There will be a meeting held at the ACC club rooms 10am the following Saturday (14th September) to finalise a set of rules/ guidelines for this new class. People interested in coming to this need to read the valuable comments and input from would be competitors and fans on the blog on, The Roaring Season, in General discusion headed "New Class Historic Sports Sedans" as the talk on there pretty much sums up the general direction the club should follow. I have put a lot of time and effort into getting this going so I would like from you names of potential competitors with cars that would fit this class as we need numbers to make this a success, so please email me with any info. sheweiry@slingshot.co.nz . There will be an article about the class in Petrolhead magazine and hopefully Classic Car magazine. Also I have been invited by the Aucland Car club to have the Sidchrome mustang as one of their display cars at the CRC Speedshow so I will have a blurb sheet available for the public on the new class with the dates for the races as well. I would like to extend a big thankyou to all those who have plegged to attend the first meeting as this will be the start that gives us some credability and show that we mean buisness!!
Competitors who have given their word to be at the first round so far are:
George Sheweiry 69 Boss Mustang Ford366 Gurney Weslake
Graham Addis 72 Charger Chev366 Moran
Bob Homewood 72 Escort Ford BDG Cosworth
Barry Algie 69 Monaro Chev302 Bartz
Gordon Burr 74 Alfetta Chev 302 Milidon
71 Cologne Capri Ford 4500 GAA Cosworth
Paul McCarthy 69 Zakspeed Escort Ford BDG Cosworth
Bruce Thompson 69 Coppins Firebird Chev302 Traco
Tony Antonovich 69 Marwood Z28 Camaro Chev350
Roger Davis 77 Torana Chev350
Adrian Dobbe 69 W Grey Viva Holden 202
Dennis Running 77 Wills RX8 Chev366
Glenn Gordon Datsun 1200 SSS
Tony Boyden 69 Coppins Camaro 350
David Thompson 69 Jim & Ross Stone Escort
John Telford Mossman Mazda Chev
Clive Sheweiry 85 DJR 302 replica
Competitors yet to confirm:
Angus Fogg Amco Mini
Mal Clark Rover V8 3500
Skidmark Parsons Triumph TR8
Niel Tolich 64 Segedin Mustang
John Learmonth 77 Chev Monza 350
Roger Townshend Capri RS2600
other possibles;
Graham Barnes 69 Bulivant Capri Chev
Brian Roycroft Datsun 1200 coupe
Kelvin Brae 69 Escort
Tony Mann Victor chev
Gary Wilkinson Zakspeed grp5 Escort
John Abbott 69 Nazer Escort
Rayden Smith Richards TC Escort
race dates;
08-09-13 HD
06-10-13 Puke
10-11-13 HD
08-12-13 Puke
02-03-14 HD
30-03-14 Puke
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How mouth watering is the above. Well done George.
How cool is this about time i say,John Telford mossmans mazda is that the mazda rx7 you are talking about,if so i saw this car having a run at Manfeild not that long ago, the work that has gone into this car. He is running a Nascar Dodge engine in it now and the sound it makes as it goes by,and was told he was only using 1/4 of the power it had on this day,also it has only put in about 70 laps all up.Boy when he puts the wood into it its going to take a good car to stay with him,also i would like to hear some more on Adrian Dobbe and his holden 202 viva.---2.3.14 HD.30.3.14 HD.
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