Didn't that change lap times, don't know if you were there the day it wasn't (the tyre) Manon in his escort 9-10ths and Rutherford 10-10ths in his Mazda and as he (Rutherford) left the concrete all hell let go, it was one of the longest slids i have seen on club curcuit, he went all the way sideways down the out side grass, 2 full locks on and somehow missed that little pinacle that pocked out and ended up backup in to the fence infront of the house on the sweeper. You could smell it for ages, tyres, Poop the lot. That littel club curcuit could tell some stories.