John, I am really sorry, but I think you have missed the point altogether. Perhaps what you are saying is correct. Who knows. But I am not going to get into a war of words with you, I am just passionate about this sport and see agendas forming a road block to the detriment of the enjoyment of spectators, owners and drivers.Originally Posted by John McKechnie
Cheers Dave Graham
Putting it simply Dave- I invited one driver. He didnt tell me his plan, didnt ask, just posted it publically that someone else was going to drive instead of him. For you , this action is perfectly OK?
I have been following this with interest. I see both sides, however what quickly comes to mind are the antics of some of the "named drivers" who are placed in cars at Goodwood.
Yes I do know it's a different kettle of fish where the organisers tell the car owners who will drive their cars and if there is damage the driver has no responsibility to contribute. There it's a case of "we want big name drivers to get the crowds along" and look what happens. No, I am not saying that is what would happen, but it is always a possibility. This has always had the catch cry "The Cars are the Stars". Personally I think invitation is just fine. For those of us who despise the "rubbing is racing" ethos I like it just the way it is. Incidentally I was leaning on the pit wall a while back with Dave Oxton, the discussion related to the way Formula Fords are driven. His comment was "If we had driven like that, I would be dead".
If I was lucky enough to own and drive one of these fantastic cars, like many other drivers, it would represent a disproportionate amount of my net-worth. As such I would want to know that the organiser was making sure that only people with the right attitude were being added to the grid. It doesn't appear to be a system that makes it hard for a new driver to take part. It looks to be fairly open and pragmatic. I would suggest a big turn-off may be potential drivers reading confrontational posts that basically insult people who have the temerity to hold a different opinion.
Think we are moving away from the cars, and thats what it is really about. Any person driving regardless of if they are F1 driver or weekend fun warrior in his pride and joy, get the same message at drivers briefing, and also the 'class rule' of "give room, no diving down inside etc, and NO CONTACT" they all understand there is no prizes. This is FUN and a run for the machinery. If a person breaks the 'code' then it can be handled with a withdrawal of invite.
Come Friday 12th get the cars ready, wash the sleep from the eyes, and don't take too much sugar or energy drinks and wander down for a bit of fun.
Talking of cars, I have had an update of Rodger Williams Mercedes.out there.
At the Jan meeting in practice, he had a major rear end mechanical.
With the Camaro coming in for HMC, his energies were diverted.
The good news is that it will be running again, not at the Ice Breaker, but probably next Jan.
Barry Algie tell me he cant wait to have a crack at him, Graeme Addis also wants some of the action, and is not bothered by its pace.
The rest of us will have to jump in the slip stream before they get away.
Some more- Peter Gunther tells me that the Skoda wont be ready, engine still waiting to be put in. One week to go-any one want to help Pete?
Dennis Running told me today he is waiting for new valves to arrive for the RX8,it will be tight, but he still wants to be there.
Mark Allen with the Viva is currently updating his brakes, and Whittaker meeting will be its first test. He also says wants to be at Jan meeting with Graeme Barnes-ex Friend Capri. Graeme ie redoing his exhaust at the moment.
This could be in - who, when where.
However, since this one of our drivers, then it belongs here.
Who is this extremely loose cannon here, and he didnt roll the car
No cheating by carjam the registation
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This is a classic, Ralph Mossman at Manfield and he caught it and kept going. Talking with him other day and he reckons he shut his eyes and it came right, but I think he caught it as he is a good peddler and look at his head turned and looking, that car was a beast. Said they adjusted the peddle box but went wrong way and cranked on rears.
His Monte is a piece of art and can not wait to see it next weekend. Neat car and neat rooster with it.
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Mr G.A.
This could be in - who, when where.
However, since this one of our drivers, then it belongs here.
Who is this extremely loose cannon here, and he didnt roll the car
No cheating by carjam the registation
Rodger-Why do you say that?
Also just got off the phone to Graeme Barnes, he said you used to run NI OSCAs with him, obviously some excellent history here.
Gives you his regards, and absolutely wants to bring the Capri up to have some more battles with you and the guys in January.
I am booking a shed for him tonight.
Aint life neat...........
Transport situation all sorted with Barrys Monaro.
Width of car from outer wheel to other side is 2250 which rules most trailers out.
Wayne at Pakuranga Auto Transport has given a good price and the Monaro will be there on Friday afternoon for some special attention-to be revealed later.
Richard Quinn has been having trouble with the imput shaft on his car, motor is fine, parts just take some time to organize. Wont be here for Ice Breaker but definitely for Jan.
pretty sure he had an a40 early on,
be great to have graeme , tony and team on the grid, great guys the feilding mob
Hello John,
You can quote the below on TRS if you wish.
Rgds,
GA.
Hello John,
I was unable to contact Roger last week, but I am pleased you have, and that you have taken my comment about him being included seriously. Thank you.
As for the Transam Aurora, great looking car, but I have no knowledge of it, it’s history or significance in terms of Historic Sports Sedans, or if it fits within the cut off year. Perhaps you can tell me.
My Charger is a true Certificate of Description (COD) car. I have decided to put the initials COD beside the Charger’s door numbers and on the windscreen, so there can be a clearly seen distinction between a real Historic Sports Sedan and the “fillers”. I think other COD owners will eventually do the same.
Re the “biking” A40 Farina… a Jack Inwood photo….Elbow at Puke…I have a black and white original of this photo that Jack brought into Wild Wheels a couple of weeks after that race meeting…he said that although I had been biking the car around that corner in previous laps, this time it left him shaking, because he did not whether to run, or tough it out and take the shot…big brave bear was our Jack..I miss him.
Just a polite point of correction re space frame based sports sedans…on TRS in the Rebirth Of A Classic thread….Rod Grimwood commented about Brett Willis’ Commodore “The Mazda was Chev powered spaceframe, as was the Camaro. Brett ran a spaceframe Commodore before the Mazda and it was a ground breaking car in sports sedans when it arrived as it was basically the first full space frame car in class along with Bob Homewoods little Escort. Lindsay built a about another 4 frames and cars for other people during this time”
The PDL 2 Mustang, Jim Richards Falcon Coupe, and the Addis Charger, were the first full spaceframe sports sedans and predated the Willis Commodore and the Homewood Escort by approximately 9 years.
I have always made my thoughts about handicap racing starts, and the historic carnage that has happened with these events.
In a handicap start, I will always run off the back, not get involved in the “dance of the desperates” and just play around with the brake bias, or some practice cornering approaches maybe.
Once again John, thank you very much for the work you do for everybody.
Best regards,
Graeme Addis.
Please be-sure to bring my chocolate fish, being the prize for the above quiz. on the A40
Rodger-This must be a quiet thread with only one reply.
But as I only need to provide one chocolate fish- flavour,size and weight unspecified- it will be brought along and you can munch it while reading about Jim Boyd.
Ralph was asking just now if you were running at the Ice Breaker, told him you were.
You have quite a following as that makes 5 people asking the same question.
Hello John,
The A40 is a story …won a lot of stuff with it…had to put up with a lot of crap as well….for me, this has never changed…..even a hassle over a log book 2014…never could abide mini Hitlers…talentless gnomes.
Doing in the dirt with speedway…real people..real racing…brilliant engineering….and bloody hard work…I love it..hot dogs,chips, mud and methanol, and no bullshit…440 yards in an oval, in mud, in 12.46 seconds…you only breath twice a lap...tarmac cant compete!!
A40 Farinas had a beautiful aesthetic that I believe has not been repeated in the auto design industry …and actually was the world’s first hatchback.
That story is part of a book I am writing…about..Kiwi Motorsport, Good stuff, and Bullshit….not able to tell you much more at this time..without compromising the book.
Quote me ..I don’t mind.
B/rgds,
Graeme Addis.
Hi Guys, I want to make an Apology here as I posted earlier that NZV8 Driver Andrew Anderson would be making an appearance in my Falcon at Icebreaker, I was unaware that I had to ask permission from John, I am newish to this so I suppose its a "rookie" mistake.
I certainly didn't want to upset anybody, it was just a plan to re-unite a Anderson in a Falcon like the early 80's when Bruce (Andrews Father) drove with Dick Johnson in the Pinepac XE Falcon.
Like I said I am very sorry if I have upset anybody and have changed my plans.
Regards Nathan Wood.
Dayle ITM Falcon
Big day happened at HD today- Barrys Monaro had a super professional photo shoot for a major overseas mag.
Barry has been working extremely hard to get it ready for this and the exposure for this will really kindle interest in Historic Sports Sedan Racing in more than just lil ole nz
All credit to Barry , JAFA and Scotty for their imput this to happen.
The weather held off and later the garage doors were shut
And you will all know about it when it hits the shops.
Scotty will be the coordinator for HSS this weekend as I am unable to be there or even drive
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Scotty will be the coordinator for HSS this weekend as I am unable to be there or even drive[/QUOTE]
WTF What about my chocolate fish!!
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