I'm pretty sure you're right there. I thought this car was always black when Jim Stone raced it, but obviously not.
I'm pretty sure you're right there. I thought this car was always black when Jim Stone raced it, but obviously not.
Thanks Les, I spoke to Warren about this car a year or two ago. He bought it off Fuller without an engine, and was planning to put a smaller Chevy into it and run the 4.2 litre class, but failed his eye sight test, and had to sell it. He said from memory it went to a truck driver or the owner of a trucking company called John Scott, who I assume was the same John Scott who raced at Waikaraka Park speedway.Originally Posted by Les Laidlaw
That is the same guy Steve, and he and his mech Ray Chatfield (also speedway,& clever) fitted tweaked 283 Chev for 4.2 I am trying to catch up with guys to resaerch more. (as mentioned in other thread)
Thanks Rod.
I am perturbed by references to "sister" car to XOO347F
that is Alan Mann escort and not a ford built car they were special and had outriggers welded into the roof
I was at Gomm metals before Frank died and he mentioned they built the Mann escort shells so I asked hm about the roof outriggers.
He was surprised i knew about them and he said they where how first job when he started wring for his father as an apprentice and they where a "bee atch" to install. he said he must have done 3 or 4 shells and they often wrinkled with the heat and he couldn't give them to Mann team to use like that
Yes I know Im behind you guys, i like warm beer and it rains a lot here too.
I’m not sure what you’re perturbed about. To the best of my knowledge Paul Fahey wanted to buy XOO 347F from Alan Mann Racing or Ford whatever the case may be but they wouldn’t sell it to him. He was however, eventually sold the spare car from that year that hadn’t been used which was identical spec. Now this is all a bit before my time so if I’ve got it wrong I’m sure someone on here will correct me and probably add some detail.
I had a close look at the Fahey car as a bare shell mid 2010 and it is a very highly modified period shell. It's a car that really deserves its own thread on here.
Cheers
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Chris
alan mann escorts been discussed in detail on Uk forum
I've seen many 72 73 74 autosport adverts escorts for sale ex alan mann
if the car you refer to has no roof outriggers welded in i will be sceptical about its true alan mann heritage
i think there are more claims to alan mann escorts than there are pukka red gold alan mann race cars
Yes I know Im behind you guys, i like warm beer and it rains a lot here too.
Yes I know Im behind you guys, i like warm beer and it rains a lot here too.
Mr Driftwood, come on over to the sunny isle and you will be very amazed what is actually here, End of this month for the BMW Festival and Classic meeting at Hampton Downs run over 2 weekends would be a great start. Could be a few cars there you will not see in pomland and most probably never have. And a couple of rijjy dij Escorts and Capris with very big history. We do have electricity over here and even traffic lights. Some import Escorts have been here along time before half the imported population.
The big meeting at end of January is worth the trip, and some of your fellow country people make the pilgrimage and have a ball.
Some shots of the AWA Escort, kindly supplied by Warwick Clayton.
Steve you're a star. Can you put me in touch with Warwick Clayton please?
Cheers
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Chris
Sure thing Chris, will send you his details.
That was a great looking car - really looking forward to seeing it back on track sometime in the future.
Yes Mr Driftwood do come on over and have a look at our racing.
Just tell him to make sure he has some outriggers on his favourite piece of driftwood, there is enough pollution in the oceans now without someone drowning while paddleing their own canoe to NZ.............
Without wanting to hi-jack Chris' thread, I am sure Chris is right when describing the Fahey car. I have interviewed Fahey a couple of times about his old race cars and I'm sure the Escort was one of those I spoke with him about (although we're going back a few years now). Fahey was always extremely well connected in both England and the US, and had the funds to buy the best equipment. He bought one of the Shelby built Trans-Am Mustangs in 1966, and he later bought the entire remaining stock (parts) from the Shelby Trans-Am and sports car programs in 1970 when Shelby himself quit racing. He also bought one of the works 1973 ETCC Capri's. He had no need to build cars from scratch when he could buy the best.
Re the Escort, I'm sure he told me he went to a BTCC race in England in 1969, saw Gardner racing the Alan Mann Escort, and tried to buy that car. he was told it wasn't available, but that there was a spare car that he could purchase at the end of the season if nothing happened to the main cars. I don't think the spare was ever painted red and gold, I'm sure it was always white. And I don't know if AM even raced this car.
Someone on here will surely know more about this than me though.
Gentlemen
1 have you read my links in previous posts re alan mann escorts?
2 I would not want to pollute the Tasman sea in my row boat as i fear the seas colliding at Cape Reinga may destroy so i prefer to add my contribution to global warming by flying to NZ
3 I usually visit Aeotera in late Nov or end feb early march in my "off" season to get some sun tan top up plus the cost of a ticket is less than coming in January.
I did tour the south Island in 04 and i caught the Timaru race of the southern festival however "her indoors" has no desire to visit NZ when i have half a notion to visit race track or anyone with a race car
When you guys can see your way to shipping my cars down i will visit Hampton Downs - I tried to get away from Waheki in Nov 2010 to take a wander but i was thwarted !!
Rod
i am pleased to hear you still have electricity there the strong wind sin Scotland last 48 hours have left many up there without any!
Yes I know Im behind you guys, i like warm beer and it rains a lot here too.
this was the most awesome car at Wigram screaming hunting the bigger machinery
Driftwood, I have a cunning plan. When you come over bring "her indoors" up to the Bay of Islands and we can take her fishing and sight seeing and pamper her on the boat. Then we can sneak off down to Hampton and you can see first hand the gear around.(Escorts,Capri's Etc.) Reckon we could talk her into a day or two shopping while we rough it at the track. Just an idea. Weather must be global same here, damn people flying everywere ruining the atmosphere.
Careful driftwood, this could get expensive!
I am fortunate that "her indoors" doesn't like shopping and i can leave her on Waiheke with friends
However to justify a trip to NZ for a holiday in the peak ticket cost season i would actually need to be
racing myself not coming down to watch which is why i normally holiday in Nov or later in Feb/ March
with cheaper flights.
I will be happy to accept offers to drive Formula or saloon cars or donations to my west pac account
to finance my chubby ass and suitcase on a plane
Yes I know Im behind you guys, i like warm beer and it rains a lot here too.
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