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    OK Roger,

    I have it in my mind that Ron Roycroft ran the Bugatti rather than the Alfa and this could account for his name being crossed out. I can't recall the Alfa having being used in a hill-climb. Whatever, I could be wrong.

    Without doubt the open wheel buckler entered, was the first in New Zealand. I can't remember it at the event and I would say that it did not show. What is more, I can't recall Arthur Harris ever driving it in serious competition, with this at first being left to his son.

    During those early days, crash hats were in short supply and I did not own one. During the running of a hill-climb, a car would return helmets to the finish in order to facilitate the their loan.

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    NSCC Motorsport Day 28 January 1978 some new [old ] images.

    Motorsport Day was held on 28th January 1978, by NSCC for the first time.
    A 4 event day.
    3 Speed events a Gymkhana, at the field by the Mt Richmond Clubrooms, a Club Circuit Sprint at Pukekohe and the Hillclimb at Cosseys Farm, Drury.
    The travel between, Mt Richmond Domian, Otahuhu and Pukekohe, then from Pukekohe to Drury was a Trial in two sections.
    Much of the event programme has been published as have the results.

    Following is the "Club Torque " article written by Rod and Judy Peat, and the results as seen in the Clubs magazine I guess in February 1978.

    The Cover of the Instruction / Regulation / Trial Instructions Booklet that had the entrants Officials and the ASR's
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    The Entrants List - posted before ;

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    Club Torque article - from Milan Fistonic archives ;
    3 pages including the results.

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    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 05-19-2022 at 04:13 AM.

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    NSCC Motorsport Day 28 January 1978 some competitors.

    A set of photos from Dennis Green archives - as processed by Ross BMC BOY Cammick.
    Ross is unsure who took the photos as Dennis appears in some of the set and in a photo below.

    Competitors in Numerical order;

    Number 5 - from the entrants list.
    On the Gymkhana.

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    on Cosseys Farm Road Hillclimb - Number 17 - the photo archivist.

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    also on Cosseys - in the smaller class - Number 22

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    again on Cosseys - the story writer. - Number 14 - was also second place-getter

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    The detailed results - Class Placings and Overall.

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    The Winners trophy [ posted before - but makes the story more complete. ]
    The winner - Peter Levet in his Mini 1275cc ..

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    More to come when downloaded..

    Plate history the GT6, the Simca and others - Plates are no longer current or even in the archives.
    The plate on the escort of one D Green - photographer, I cannot decipher.
    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 05-26-2022 at 04:47 AM. Reason: Entry numbers and plates ###47

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    NSCC Motorsport Day 28 January 1978 more competitors.

    More photos from Dennis Green archives - all at the same corner on Cosseys Farm Road - The Hillclimb.

    John Coker -Mazda

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    Thought to be David Thexton Datsun 1200 SSS..

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    One of several Ford Escorts

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    Another Escort

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    another Datsun 1200 - think just a 1200 not an SSS

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    One of several Mini's entered .. unsure whose ??

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    As an aside ; None of the plates are current - well it was 1978 some 44 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Sheffield View Post

    I have it in my mind that Ron Roycroft ran the Bugatti rather than the Alfa and this could account for his name being crossed out. I can't recall the Alfa having being used in a hill-climb. Whatever, I could be wrong.
    Roycroft at a Muriwai hill climb.

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    It is Official - It IS ON ..Saturday 20th August 2022 - the celebrations.

    Posted on NZ Rallying History and Old new Zealand Motor Racing by Rob Scott.

    " Northern Sports Car Club are commemorating the 50th anniversary of the building of their clubrooms in Mount Richmond Domain, Otahuhu.
    The clubrooms have provided a social hub for not just NSCC members, but a number of marque clubs and has been the home of Rally New Zealand for many years. It's also seen its share of drama and triumph as the finish venue for a number of NZRC rallies and Gold Star trials.
    The celebrations are scheduled for the afternoon and evening of Saturday 20th August 2022.
    Further details will be available closer to the date. For more information, please contact Rod Peat (rod.t.peat50@gmail.com) "

    Articles in South Auckland newspapers.

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    The Official Function in August 1972.

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    Early History a well known car at both NSCC and ACC events

    The Singford - with the Tilsley brothers - Don Tilsley racing in NSCC and ACC events
    Note from Don Tilsley, which I received today with a photo.
    The photo appears in the Graham Veroce book Historic Racing Cars of New Zealand with an incorrect caption.

    Don notes ;
    " Auckland Car Club.Mt Eden Hill-climb 5th.April 1952.The A.C.C. always ran the class
    1101-2000cc.The International class was 1101-1500cc. The N.S.C.C. always stuck to the
    International classes and their handicapping was far superior as well.Competed against
    Ron Roycroft in the Bug and Herb Gilroy in the Rubber Duck on the day and got 3rd.
    Herb 1st in 34.0sec. Ron 2nd.in 35.2 and me in 36.6. FTD George Smith GCS 31.0sec.
    Cheers Don. "

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    Caption in the book says " Don Tilsley on the startline at Mt Eden in the Singford [ MkII ], with bother Glen holding down the tail " - Event is correct but the Gentleman " holding down the tail " is Laurie Powell.

    On the same page of the Vercoe book is another photo of Don at Ohakea noted " Stripped for the track, the guardless Singford at Ohakea in 1952, Don Tilsley driving.

    According to Dons own records it was the 1953 event with notes as follows ;
    Singford at " Ohakea Trophy Race 14 March 1953. D.N.F Don Tilsley 24th lap of 25 holding 2nd place broke steering arm. Could have finished 3rd or 4th. Don received 10 pounds for completing 23 laps! "

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    Don competing at A couple of NSCC events -posted before but brings them together.

    Seagrove in November [ 11th ] 1951.

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    Wairamarama Hill, NSCC North Island Championship Hill Climb January 16th 1954.

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    Don came first in Class F 1001 - 1500 cc.
    ** now have more details of the meeting and also events at Seagrove from Don - a story is building.

    All photos Don Tilsey's own archives.
    Thanks Don

    In another comment about the Mt Eden photo Don notes : " Ref. Laurie Powell a regular competitor in
    his Ford V8 Roadster. Was a past N.S.C.C. Club Captain and President 1955-56. Also
    well known at Western Springs in his midget car. I note the Club Auditor was one H.Dowding.
    Cheers Don. "

    H Dowding was Hector Macdonald Dowding [ 23/3/1917 to 11/09/1999 ] my late father. I knew he was Honorary Auditor for the Club, as he told me, but never known any record of it
    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 06-18-2022 at 05:32 AM. Reason: More to come on the Singford and Don T.

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    NSCC events at Mount Wellington course December 1952

    Details of the events which were held a week apart by NSCC -

    Information from Don Tilsley - who competed in his Singford 11 -

    Don writes ;

    " 7/12/1952. Mt.Wellington circuit races.( 1.25 miles). Due to the narrow track mostly rough loose metal (and extremely dusty)
    surface with a short and much cambered tar-sealed uphill section it was restricted to cars up to 1500cc. although some time trials were held for bigger capacity cars.
    Event one.4 lap scratch race for Specials.
    Starters. Winter Spec., Riley Spec., Standard Spec., BSA., Aitken Spec.,Mk2., McHugh Spec., Singford Spec.
    Results.Singford 1st.7'-3" , BSA 2nd.7'-14.8", Aitken 3rd.7'-34.8"
    Event Two. 4 Lap. Open Handicap. 3 Specials Versus 3 MG's..
    Starters. Singford, Aitken, BSA. TD M.G.x3.
    Results. Singford 1st.8'-02.8"(H/cap 1'-20"), BSA 2nd.8-03.8(H/cap 1'-15") TD Somervell 3rd.8'-05"( H/cap 1'-15")
    Event Three..4 Lap. 1sts. and 2nds. from previous events athough the Jupiter driven by Gordon Brown replaced the BSA.
    Results. Singford !st.8'05.3"(H/cap 1'-30"), Jupiter 2nd.8'-05.8"(H/cap1-15") Somervell TD 3rd.8'-06" (H/cap1'-15")
    Event.Four.4 Lap. MG v Specials Scratch race.
    Results. Singford 1st. 6'-59.2", Somervell TD 2nd. 7-01.6", Greenwell TD 3rd.7-18.9".
    During one of these events the Singford on passing Jock's special on the short uphill section contact occured between the cars.
    The Singford's L.H. front hub taking out all the hub cap clips on Jocks R.H. front wheel and removing the grease cap on the Singfords.hub
    not noticed till the races end! It was quite an effort I can ensure you for the scratch car to pass other competitors in the dust and
    flying metal.

    Information from Don Tilsley Email dated 22 June 2022
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    " 14/12/1952. Mt.Wellington.
    Event. Time Trial over 1500cc.
    Results.George Smith G.C.S. 1st.1'-29.2". 2nd. Peter Harrison XK120 1'-32". 3rd. Fred Zambuca De Soto Spec.1'-35.6".
    Event. Time Trials.Under 1500cc
    Starters. Aitken Spec., Jupiter, 3- TD MGs, 1 -TC MG.
    Results. Singford 1st.1'-40", Jupiter (Gordon Brown) 2nd.1'-41", 3rd. Somervell MG TD 1'-42".
    14/12/1952, Mt Wellington continued;
    Event.Scratch Race. MGs V Specials.
    Results. Singford 1st.6'-48.9", MG TD (Greenwell) 2nd., MG TD (Somervell) 3rd.


    Information from Don Tilsley Email dated 22 June 2022

    Details of the Track from Don Tilsley Email dated 23 June 2022.
    "

    " The course was the same for both days and was situated in an area to the left of the Southern Motorway
    before it crosses the Mt.Wellington Highway. If you have a road map of the area you will see Commissariat Road, which was the main straight and start and finish line. There was some housing on the north side of this road but the other sides were small farmlets with live stock. I have some video of the events Ex Avery Bros, and Gordon Brown.
    "

    A photo of Dons car with others - at a different event though ; At Muriwai .. Dons car #34 with bonnet askew !

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    Hi Roger. I didn't get any PM from you and don't know if you received mine. Let me know here please.
    Allan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    Hi Roger. I didn't get any PM from you and don't know if you received mine. Let me know here please.
    Allan
    Allan, my message box was full and I didn't notice - will now send a new message.

    Cheers
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    On their way to you as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    On their way to you as we speak.
    Very kind of you Allan,
    Thanks - will be appreciated.

    Cheers
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