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    Wairamarama. more information on the NSCC events.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milan Fistonic View Post
    Here is confirmation of the dates of two Wairamarama hillclimbs.

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    Thanks for that Milan- a date I didn't know about and have found another one from the Don Tilsley photos .
    Great thank you.

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    NSCC The later years.

    Early in the thread I posted the names of the Presidents from 1943 - 1974 - the first 30 years - repeated below

    " 1943-45 Verne Clarke
    1945-46 Eddie Dowding
    1946-47 Ces Hodge
    1947-48 John Wilson
    1948-49 Colin McGregor
    1950-51 Jock Aitken
    1951-52 Phil Ornstein
    1952-55 Laurie Powell
    1955-56 Roger Brown **
    1955-56 Peter Ayson **
    1956-60 Dudley Badham
    1960-62 Lloyd Gerrard
    1962-64 Jim Lockley
    1964-66 Ian Runnerstrum
    1966-70 Owen Thomas
    1970-74 Morrie Chandler "

    ** Note two names for the 1955-56 year
    These were the later Presidents
    1974 on - including Bob Kidd, who gave me some early information recently.

    " 1974-78 Grahame Knight
    1978-81 Robert Kidd
    1981-82 David Smith
    1982-83 Brett Norager
    1983-88 Bob Mitchell
    1988-89 John Sinclair
    1989-90 John De Vere-Ellery
    1990-92 Bill Johnston
    1992-98 Joe Smith
    1998-99 Rod Peat
    2000-01 David Armour
    2001-08 John De Vere-Ellery
    2009-current Vicki Burnitt "

    The Clubs Logo seems to have only changed twice -
    The 1943 Members Cards had the image of an MG T series and just the words ;
    " Northern Sports Car Club
    Incorporated "
    The " Members Card " [ courtesy of Bob Kidd - President 1978 - 81 ]

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    The original logo from the 1950's as shown on the recent pages posted by Milan Fistonic
    here cropped from his post of the 1953 Wairamarama Hill Climb.

    Trevor Sheffield may know if this was also a badge for members - either lapel or a larger car badge ?

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    The later logo from the 1960's Had a sticker like this on the windscreen of my first car in 1967.

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    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 02-22-2021 at 11:04 PM. Reason: Card added ###47

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    Cossey's Farm, The current Road

    John Coker an NSCC Member for many years,Trials and later Rally Driver, ran a Skoda 120 at one stage - an ex-works car is now a keen cyclist and took photos recently.
    He noted that his time up the Hill [ even though a better track and slightly different layout ] was his slowest ever.

    - photos won't load - will try later ..
    Photos will not load to this post #343.
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    Managed to load this photo though from Cosseys Farm.

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    Scenic views of Drury, has changed a lot ;



    26/12/20- photos still won't load must be the format -
    26/08/20 Photos will not load to this post #343.
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    The Road in 1967 ..

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    NSCC Programme and entry lists

    These images came from Richard Bauz of Switzerland [ has the Fb name Sand Mandli ] He owns the " Orchid Special " that Keith Yeates / Yeats ** built around 1969-61 [ a bit of a story there ] and raced in the 1960's
    Keith's surname spelt both as Yeats and YeatEs ..

    Programme Cover NSCC meeting December 1966 and some entry lists which show Keith was an NSCC member and entered under that club.

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    Think this is the entry list from the December 1966 programme

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    Other entry lists with the Orchid under NSCC entry by Keith Yeates / Yeats. **

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    See Trevor Sheffield and his Daimler SP250 #215 in the last three entry lists - appear to be from the same meeting.
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    NSCC 1961 and 1962 - more Keith Yeats archives

    Entry Cover and list from the NSCC Hiilclimb at Ostrich Farm Road - Gold Star event in 1961 with Keith Yeats entered - from his archives which Richard now has.
    Must have been one of the earliest events for the " Orchid ".

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    The full entry list - with some times for the cars

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    A Certificate for Keith Yeates in the Orchid at an NSCC Race meeting in 1962

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    Great to know this information has been kept.
    Richard Bauz * is looking for more information on the car

    * I have attributed the archives to Richard Sandman [ his Fb name is " Sandmandli " - correct surname is Bauz ]
    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 01-28-2021 at 05:54 AM. Reason: Bauz * ###47

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    Castrol Rally 1965 - NSCC Gold Star Rally [ Trial ]

    Motorman Magazine front cover, article and a Castrol Advert about the results - all from Milan Fistonic.
    A series pf photos from a competitor John " Larry " Lawton will follow :

    The Cover ; Motorman July 1965

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    The article

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    The Advert

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    Castrol Rally 1965 - NSCC Gold Star Rally [ Trial ] Cars at the start.

    John Larry Lawton photos of the cars at rthe start - Farmers Carpark in Hobson Street - when it was a two way road.

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    Double photo John Larry Lawton at the exit and on the street
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    Driver names and Placing details on the photos thanks to J L Lawton.
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    Castrol Rally 1965 - NSCC Gold Star Rally [ Trial ] part 3 the start and on the road

    More John Larry Lawton photos
    Farmers Carpark - the start

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    Control at Ngatea ;

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    Wayne Jones in the Imp = didn't he run a Simca 1000 at some time - again a rear engined 1000cc car ??

    More from Ngatea and at the finish at Pukekohe to follow

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    Castrol Rally 1965 - NSCC Gold Star Rally [ Trial ] Part 4 Ngatea and the finish.

    John Larry Lawton photos

    Control at Ngatea - including the Marshall and his car.

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    After the finish - a lap or two at Pukekohe - numbers are off for the drive home.

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    Won by a Standard 10 - the Advert again - to finish the set.

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    Historic Times coming up for NSCC in 2021/2022/2023

    Historic Times coming up for NSCC .. 1971 the Clubrooms at Mt Richmond Domain were first actively promoted and then constructed in 1972 so 50 years ago it started.
    1942 the first gatherings of the "social club " began.

    2021/2022 will be therefore 50th and 80th Anniversary's of major events in the clubs history.
    2023 would be the Clubs " Official " 80th year as incorporated in October 1943.

    There is some chatter about a function for the clubrooms which hopefully leads into 80th Anniversary Celebrations.
    Rod Peat, Mal Clark [ formely of Bygone Autos ] and Bob Homewood all competitors from the 1960's ,Bob, 1970's, Rod and Mal and on, are sounding the idea out.
    Hopefully it will develop into some great functions and events.

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    RIP Ross Haldane

    Ross Haldane was an NSCC member from the early 1960's and a serious Triallist winning many Club and Gold Star Trials - He was Trials Gold Star Champion in 1972.
    Bob Kidd a former NSCC President, who called into visit me a few months ago,advised that Bob had passed away in the last week.

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    Seagrove 1949 soime more information

    Graeme Staples who is writing a book on Motorcycle Circuits and Racing in New Zealand has sent me an artcile on Seagrove in 1949 - Had already posted page one back in April 2020 on this thread.
    There were two pages that were published in a booklet called Motor Sport Nostalgia - published in 1989 by Graham Vercoe. There were several events at Seagrove and there is mention of the " Competitors Car Club " and Northern Sports Car Club " [ NSCC ]. What the CCC was I do not know and hadn't heard of it before the article I saw in April 2020.

    Cover of the booklet
    1949

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    Here is the full article [ repeating the first page - page 21 ] - the magazine covers many events from 1949, and there was a 1950 edition too -also published by Graham Vercoe in 1989.

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    Cover of the 1950 edition

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    NSCC Dec 1967 meeting - Jim Richards

    The following picture was posted by O J McLean on the Facebook page " NZ Car related street scenes 1950-1980's "
    - with the comment ;
    " 18-year-old Jim Richards of Manurewa in his "extremely rapid" Ford Anglia at a northern sports car club meeting in Pukekohe on Saturday December 9th 1967 he was placed first, second and fourth respectively in the three races he entered. "
    Would have been there, probably on crowd control with one of those " white coats " was 20 at the time- always Jim was a tad older..** see post #354 regarding the event.

    NSCC meeting Dec 1967.
    O J McLean archives. Photographer not stated - could be own photo.

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    NSCC 1967 National Race Meeting - November 1967

    Previous post - the extract " quoted above " said that the Jim Richards photo of the Anglia was from an NSCC meeting in December 1967.

    It would seem it was either the incorrect date or was an Auckland Car Club meeting, as NSCC's National Meeting near the end of the year would be this one.
    The first of the Gold Star meetings for the season.
    NZ Herald advertisement from 30th October 1967 for the NSCC meeting " Next Saturday ".

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    a straightened version of the photo. Entry 80 cents

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    NSCC Competitors in 1954 on an Auckland Car Club event.

    Thanks to Milan Fistonic for this interesting magazine article - the Auckland Car Club 24 Hour " Hepolite " Trial from 1954.
    Run 24th and 25th July 1954.
    Article appeared in the " The Autocar " 27th August 1954. As noted by Milan.
    Some interesting names in the results.
    Phil Ornstein was President of NSCC in 1951 - 52
    K Orr is Dr Ken Orr who was well known for loaning his cars to others to Race - seems he did the Trials though.
    J Boyd - is that Jim Boyd ?, would be an early event for him, I think.
    Interesting that a 1929 Studebaker was the oldest car [ at 26 years old ] in the event driven by Phil Neil

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    NSCC and Hill Climbs

    NSCC Hill Climb Events and venues
    Re - writing and amending the list from earlier posts ;

    The list so far - a bit more added - 1962 event.

    1940's
    - late in the decade. First Hill Climb appears to be in 1946
    1946 - 47.

    " Taylors Bay, Hillsborough " - unsure which road was used.
    1946

    " Pokeno " - again no details on which road was used.
    1946

    " Ostrich Farm Road, Pukekohe " - late 1940's - an NSCC venue and later used in the 1960's

    " Whitford " - un-named road
    1948 near Whitford - report appears on the thread

    1950's

    " Don Buck Road, Massey "
    24/09/1950 Hill Climb, Don Buck Road, Massey
    **
    " Wairamarama Onewhero Road, Onewhero "

    described as Wairamarama Road, Glen Murray in some details about an early Hill Climb - near Ron Roycrofts place - used definitely in 1956.
    Thanks to Trevor for the correction of spelling - makes it easier to find on a map !!
    The Hill was used on the following dates

    [ information from Trevor Sheffields book about Ralph Watson - thanks again Trevor ]
    23/03/1953 - information from Milan Fistonic and cover of programme - Post #339
    29/09/1953

    16/01/1954 as noted in Don Tilsley photos
    19/09/1954

    15/01/1955 - copy of the cover - Programme for this event now added Post #339
    later in 1955 - exact date not detailed

    later in 1956 **- exact date not detailed " ----/1956 NSCC Hill Climb - Ron Roycroft ran the Bugatti - Jaguar
    **presume this is still using Wairamarama Road

    1960's

    " Ostrich Farm Road, Pukekohe, Franklin County "

    11/10/1961 Ostrich Farm Road
    November 1961 **
    17/12/1961 Ostrich Farm Road, Pukekohe - the NSCC's Gold Star Championship Hill Climb

    October 1962 Ostrich Farm Road
    As noted ; ** Used in 1961 as have some results from an event there in November 1961 posted in previous thread post #327

    " Wharepapa Road, Helensville " - used early 1960's ** maybe 1964 - now seems likely this was after Birdwood Road - see dates now added.

    " Birdwood Road, Massey "

    14/03/1965 Birdwood Road Massey - results appear in a previous post

    Birdwood Road, Massey - area now called Birdwood as Massey is a large area. used 1964 - 65, did they keep using it until Cosseys was first used in March 1967 ?.
    Then we have Wharepapa -both roads used in 1965.

    " Wharepapa Road, Helensville "

    -/12/1965 Wharepapa Road

    By March 1967 NSCC had " built " " Cosseys Farm Road " into a Hill Climb venue - cowpats and all.

    A recently unearthed advert for Ostrich Farm Road HillClimb in 1962 - the event was in October as in the same paper was an advert for a Motor Cycle race meeting in Te Aroha.

    The NSCC advert ; thanks to Graham Woods again for this archive item.

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