Sent Ken Hyndman this picture which was posted in Yards and Yarns, under the " Hunua Hundred " - sub-thread and he came back with this. not related to the thread but an American memory.Originally Posted by Roger Dowding
we didn't have the Caps or the guns .. and couldn't afford a car that big.. some similarity though !!
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Hi Ken, great pic ! There are a few oddities in here : on the left, the bike may well be a KR250, but the rider is the popular American rider Harry(chest) Klinzmann (fairing), Ron Pierce Kawasaki would be his entrant. #7 I believe to be the British rider Bob Smith. #324 is the bike Gregg Hansford rode at Daytona, but that's certainly not him aboard : in fact, because he is wearing Boston Cycles leathers, I think that is Ron Pierce, who rose an H2R for that shop. #9 is Nixon, #17 Yvon Duhamel, but #1 is still a question mark, it may be Roberts but as he was head-over-heels a Yamaha rider in those days it would be a surprise. Anyway I have nipped the pic over to a fb page where some rivet-counters dwell (but with a credit, of course) and will report back.
Long Beach. April 1983.
This was to be the last year of Formula One at the Long Beach circuit. I was disappointed that they would not be back. I tried to take some photos but again they are not of the Nigel Watts quality !
Being a BMW mechanic at the time I was very interested in the turbo charged 4 cylinder 1500 cc BMW engine in a Brabham BT52.
Here is a photo of Nelson Piquet in Brabham # 5 leading Patrick Tambay in a Ferrari 126/C2 (Turbo ) # 27 on to the Shoreline Drive part of the circuit.
Nelson Piquet as viewed through the safety fencing, accelerating away.
(Ken Hyndman photos )
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Welcome back Ken H ..
cheers Roger D..
Thanks Roger.
Back in 1983 $ 7.50 went a long way here at Long Beach. This was on the Thursday one week before the race weekend and you could go in to Sports Arena and walk around and talk to the race mechanics and the drivers also. It was a great friendly and family atmosphere. I remember watching the Williams Team at work and standing right beside me were both Alan Jones and Patrick Tambay !
Geez I miss that sort of thing now. (Thanks Bernie !)
( Ken Hyndman )
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April 1983. Long Beach Grand Prix. Practice Day.
Nigel Mansell at speed in his Lotus 92 with a Cosworth engine.
Nigel would come back ten years later and drive in the 1993 PPG Indy Car series. He was a very brave and talented driver and often had wonderful races against Paul Tracey, the Andretti family, Emerson Fittipaldi etc.
Nigel was the Indy Car series champion in 1993.
Nigel Mansell at speed in the JPS Lotus, as seen through the safety fencing.
(Ken Hyndman photos )
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Long Beach. Practice day. March 1983.
Niki Lauda driving his Marlboro McLaren Cosworth MP4-1C along Shoreline Drive.
( Ken Hyndman photo )
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March, 1983. Long Beach.
English driver Derek Warwick, was friendly and easy to talk to even though I nearly blinded him with the camera flash that did not work at any other time inside the Long Beach Convention Centre !
( signed by Derek Warwick )
( Ken Hyndman collection )
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He could pedal, I remember watching in astonishment when he got the Toleman up to second at Brands Hatch in '82....we were all muttering "Jungle Juice', they said a cv joint, really it was soft tyres and very low fuel...but a spectacle for all involved, and rollicking good fun. Certainly the making of Derek Warwick.
Long Beach 1983.
Another quick pedaler.
Michele Alboreto in his Benetton Tyrell 011 Cosworth.
(Ken Hyndman photo... through the fencing
Here are the Formula One Specifications for 1983.
(Ken Hyndman....from scrapbook collection ..sorry it is so hard to read )
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1983 Long Beach Grand Prix was won by John Watson driving a Marlboro McLaren MP/1C with a Cosworth engine.
Here is some information on the car and team of John Watson and Niki Lauda. They both started from the back of the grid in 22nd and 23rd positions and came through to finish 1-2. I do not believe that has ever been done since in Formula One.
(Ken Hyndman.. scrapbook collection )
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Trojan - Monaco 2012. Just for Ken! Not sure if it is relevant...
Ray,
Thanks for the memory. I appreciate you thinking of me.
This is when the first Trojan T 102 F5000 was driven out at Goodwood in Oct. 1973. Keith Holland the driver being watched by designer / engineer Patrick Head. The Formula One Trojan you show was developed from the T 102 for the 1974 season by Ron Tauranac and Patrick and was known as a T 103. It is a rare car indeed.
The ambulance and Land Rover in the photo were on duty the day that Bruce McLaren died.
(Ken Hyndman photo )
Sadly lost too soonLong Beach 1983.
Another quick pedaler.
Michele Alboreto in his Benetton Tyrell 011 Cosworth.
(Ken Hyndman photo... through the fencing
March 1983. Long Beach Sports Arena.
As it had been 10 years since I had first worked with Patrick Head at Trojan ( May 1973 ), we met up again here at Long Beach and I was hoping to get a photo inside but that is when my flash unit went erratic. Not knowing what I was doing I set the lens to let in more light without a flash and this is the result. A blurred photo that shows Frank Williams on the left (before he was wheelchair bound )Patrick Head, the back of engineer Frank Dernie, other team members and on the right is Keke Rosberg possibly contemplating about
having a son follow in his footsteps. (Nico was born 2 years later in 1985 )
(Ken Hyndman photo )
March 1983. Long Beach. Practice day.
TAG Williams FW 08C cars on the track. Drivers were Keke Rosberg in # 1 and Jacques Laffitte in car # 2.
(Perhaps I should have named this thread as ; "Formula One through the fences")
Keke Rosberg.
Jacques Laffitte
(Ken Hyndman photos )
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Lotus at Long Beach 1983.
This was the first year that Lotus was not led by Colin Chapman who had died in late 1982.
Elio de Angelis from Italy, was the driver of the beautiful looking Lotus Renault 93 T.
Sadly Elio was to lose his life at Paul Ricard Circuit in France in 1986 while testing a Brabham BT55.
Elio de Angelis in his Lotus 93 T leading race winner John Watson in his McLaren MP 4-1C.
(Ken Hyndman photo and scrapbook )
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March 1983.
Ferrari at Long Beach.
Patrick Tambay in his Ferrari 126 C2 /B Turbo # 27 coming onto the Shoreline Drive part of the circuit.
(Ken Hyndman photo and scrapbook )
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1983 Long Beach Grand Prix.
Here is a brief clip even though it is poor quality and sound, it does show how Patrick Tambay and Keke Rosberg went at it during the opening laps. Check the smooth braking on the Williams ! That is a sweet spin !
(Ken Hyndman ..ending out the 1983 LBGP)
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