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    Quote Originally Posted by John McKechnie View Post
    Roger- the wikipedia probably covers only the American market.- thus left hand drive
    All right hand drive were Canadian assembled, usually base models- different specs to USA.
    Safe to say I remember Diplomats, but not many of these shapes.
    Agree John Mck, and I also know it is only as good as guys like us who contribute information which gets picked up by Wiki .... !!
    as you mention NZ had a lot of US cars that were actually assembled or CKD packed in Canada - unlike Australia where many were chassis and front boywork - to scuttle then local coach builders [ like Holden ] finished them off with there own but similar bodywork.

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    John, this De Soto is one never seen in Australia...

    And Roger, I doubt that GM pressed panels for any US models after Holden production started. All CKD stuff in Chevs and Pontiacs, with Pontiacs having Chev running gear in the latter stages, probably from about 1961 onwards.

    Pommy Fords (Prefects, Anglias) might have been pressed in Broadmeadow or Geelong. Likewise Vauxhalls at Fishermens Bend.

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    Adding some more NZ content about Aussie cars., I hope no one minds-
    I am a Motor Trimmer-40 years at it-, so I get to see details about different country cars that most wouldnt-.
    1-1936 Austin 8 sedan...had Holden plate where Austin usually is on firewall
    2-LIP and EIP Vauxhall , were only available as Roadster in Aus.
    3- Have trimmed 1937, 1938, 1939 Ford V8 and Chevrolet Roadsters...not convertible. Aus only model.
    A roadster has side curtains, a convertible has wind up windows

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    John I think Vauxhall also made in Aussie a Ute ....Vagabond ?

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    Vagabond Utes are the support class at Bathurst 1955..
    Late night Vagabond drifting Parramatta road Saturday nights.
    Duna derbies with Vagabond utes with the trays full of yahoos at Bribie Island sunday afternoons?

    Long live Utes.
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    Vagabond by Vauxhall - surrogate Holden ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Spgeti View Post
    John I think Vauxhall also made in Aussie a Ute ....Vagabond ?
    Bruce, I thought the Vagabond was an EI series Vauxhall Convertible 53-57 [ two door ] Holden also did a LI series 47 - 52 ?? Ragtop too !!

    a 1953 Vagabond - P.S. - Vauxhall EI series was also built in Switzerland !! as a Van ..??

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    The comment re the LI series - think they may have been coachbuilt - not by Holden ??
    Could be the start of some other thoughts -
    Not a Vagabond but the Australia only Vauxhall Caleche ..

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    John Mck - could just imagine drifting an EI Ute .. a mate had an LIP, he was in Northern Sports car club, had wide rear wheels under grafted on Escort Mk 1 round flares, an inline Hurst shifter for the Vauxhall gearbox - took the tree of the column.. had twin carbs - went well in a straight line and sounded good 2262 cc of sheer power ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell View Post
    John, this De Soto is one never seen in Australia...

    And Roger, I doubt that GM pressed panels for any US models after Holden production started. All CKD stuff in Chevs and Pontiacs, with Pontiacs having Chev running gear in the latter stages, probably from about 1961 onwards.

    Pommy Fords (Prefects, Anglias) might have been pressed in Broadmeadow or Geelong. Likewise Vauxhalls at Fishermens Bend.
    Ray, would agree the built bodies would have been pre - 1948 when the 48-215, later FJ came along .. although look at the Vauxhall stuff, was that Holden bodies or another " Coach Builder " .. Caleche and Vagabond ..
    Last edited by Roger Dowding; 02-02-2019 at 12:10 AM.

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    To be honest, I am only guessing about these things. I know some strange things happened, particularly pre-war. Willys bodies became Vauxhall bodies and so on. But by mid-1949 the demand for Holdens would have stopped anything much happening with body pressing other than for the home-grown cars. All the same, I seriously doubt that any GM car had a body made in Australia other than one made by GM-H.

    The Vagabonds existed in the earlier shape as well, like the Caleche body, I'm pretty sure. There certainly were utes in the Vauxhall range, but mostly labelled as Bedfords IIRC, at least until the later shape came on the scene (like the cream car above). A lot of that stuff would have come from England as CKD packs and been assembled in Australia.

    I am pretty familiar with the Chrysler stuff in the fifties because of contacts I've made over the years and stories I've written for Australian Classic Car magazine which required some research.

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    Happy 2019 ..seen on the AH thread too !!

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    Caffeine and Classics Smales Farm Auckland..

    January 2019, Good turnout but the overflow carpark was not full, there were two other events on though ; at Orewa and Hampton Downs, plus the 30 year rule - didn't seem to be imposed strictly.. UN7284 was there as a young 28 year old !!

    Here from a previous event; August 2017 ;

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    No photo's downloaded yet, ERC [ in a modern ] and Kevin H [ in the 80's Celica ] were there and I think I saw Geebeez too in the distance.

    Photo's will follow in a few days as away from home and using other peoples Wifi and data.

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    Seeing you have been discussing utes I thought I should post shots of this Ford Prefect Ute that was at the Thames Wings and Wheels on Saturday.

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