I'm not sure if I've posted this track map before. It's from a Motorman magazine from early 1962.
It would seem that the "Elbow" would have taken the track behind the stables rather than in front.
Interesting that even at that early stage a club circuit was included in the plans.
Have just heard from Don Tilsley that the planned Centenary Celebrations for 100 Years of the New Zealand Motor Cup, originally held in 1921, at Muriwai Beach has been cancelled.
The event was planned for 2021 but delayed by the Pandemic and now the NZIGP and and Historic Racing Club have cancelled the event.
I also understand that the Motorsport New Zealand 75th Gala Dinner has been cancelled as well.
Originally ANZCC [ Association of New Zealand Car Clubs ] later MANZ [ Motorsport Association of New Zealand ] and now MSNZ was formed in 1947.
The message sent via Don Tilsley states that MSNZ and the other groups hope to have a display of Cars and the New Zealand Motor Cup at the Ellerslie Concours on Sunday 12th February 2023.
pretty cool Milan, the layout of the stands shows the person who did it didn't look at the fact that they indeed more in line with the horse track rather than 45 degrees away. Pick up the hairpin computer style and swing it around and drag the rest with it and it's not too far off.
" " Have put a lot of other North Island Tracks, Levin, Matamata, Napier, Ohakea the Mount Maunganui Street Circuit that preceded Baypark, and Paritutu, New Plymouth on the " Dunedin 1984 " thread and will continue to do that.
-revised September 6th 2022.
The " Dunedin 1984 " Thread is already used for other South Island Events." "
Have found a few John Larry Lawton images from Paritutu in 1965.
Will post on the " Dunedin 1984 " Thread as noted in the first post on this thread.
Also some from Ryal Bush - from Classic Autonews archives of Allan Dick
More to come;
A few images from the Auckland Car Club meeting April 1964 - from the ACC's magazine the Bulletin.
Photos by Barry Person in the Bulletin - from Milan Fistonic archives.
Holden versus Ford - but not in the traditional " Australian " way
Graeme Harvey leads Garth Souness.
Which way should I go TRS member Trevor Sheffield in his Daimler SP250 in front of the Triumph TR3 of Murray Lucas
Morgan's a trio - must be from one of the later races at the event as two Morgans are 1340 cc Ford powered and one is 1991 cc Triumph [ TR3 motor ] powered in the over 1500 cc class.
Terry Waterfield in his 1340 leads W R Darling 1991 cc plus 4 and M R Brown 1340 cc 4/4.
Entry List for the up to 1500 cc Sports Cars Race 3 - has two of the Morgans.
The above race must have been a later race when they had mixed classes based on speed not capacity ..
The Entry lists for races from Race 8 on had none or only a few entries.
For the over 1500 cc Sports cars see post #467 by Milan Fistonic.
While on the Sports car theme and the Daimler SP250 .. here is another one in February 1965 at Pukekohe from the archives of John Larry Lawton.
Roger Smith in his SP250 - the car that was in the Gold Leaf Three Hour Challenge Race at the Wills meeting in October 1965.
The car behind is Brian Aislabie, Jamie Aislabie brother ? in his Cooper Jaguar - Jamie also raced a Cooper at one time the Cooper Holden.
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I am certain that the second photo showing car number 41 is wrongly captioned. I never ever raced my SP 250 as a sports car with the hard top in place and the wheel centers appear different from those on my car. Furthermore the driver is far too close to the steering wheel in contrast to the way I drive.
The photos were taken at the April 1964 Pukekohe meeting and this is the entry list for the over 1501cc sports cars at that event.Originally Posted by Trevor Sheffield
The incident was probably this one described in Motorman.
"A further incident at the Elbow occurred during a sports-racing handicap event when Sheffield's Dart spun and was narrowly missed by Thomasen while it was airborne."
The spin was also mentioned in the ACC Bulletin report.
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Had a visit with Lloyd Gleeson, whom I first met at a TACCOC Car Trial in September 1967.
Lloyd was visiting my next door neighbour, they are old friends from Thames back in the 1960's.
After a visit to a Vintage Car and Motorcycle Guy here in Omokoroa who now owns Lloyds old Morgan 4/4 - and a Harley Davidson from the 1930's - Lloyd presented me with a collection of Programmes from Pukekohe 1963 to 1967, including the 1964 1965 1966 and 1967 Wills Six Hour events - there are three programmes 1964, 1965, and 1967, the 1966 Booklet is the Supplementary Regulations with an insert of the Eligible Vehicles.
From the 1964 Programme - the report on the 1963 event and the Trophy Results the Entry List - only the Six hour race in both 1963 and 1964.
First the Covers of the Programme's..
1964 - 1967.
Attachment 73889
1963 event - the report and results - Class Winners and Trophy Winners
Attachment 73890
The entry list for the 1964 Wills Six Hour Saloon Car Race as at 11th September 1964.
Event held on Saturday 10th October 1964.
More to come on these events - have posted quite a bit on the 1965 event previously.
Other Programmes are for ACC Meeting in 1963 - 1964 and both Auckland and Northern National Meetings Rothmans and Dunlop 1966 and 1967.
I went to the meetings from the 1965 Wills Six hour onwards but gave my Programmes away in 2008 - now have a few back.
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From previous post - the first two images keep vanishing in my viewing..
Another image of the Programme Covers..
Some recently acquired Programmes again from Lloyd Gleeson they are of Auckland Car Club and Northern Sports Car Club events. One pre-dates Pukekohe as is the 10th December 1960 meeting which would have been held at Ardmore
ACC Programmes 10 Dec 1960, 7th Dec 1963 and 4th April 1964 - a second copy of this programme as one was sent to me by John Hatton back around 2015.
The White Programme is undated with the only date reference in the Advertisement inside the front cover - article from NZ Herald 6th February 1960. - Milan Fistonic advised it is the ACC 10th December 1960 meeting.
President Ivan Cranch wrote the welcoming address which includes some notes on the cars competing
Other Programmes are from 1966 and 1967 - when Rothmans and Dunlop sponsored meeting run by both ACC and NSCC.
The 1966 Programme Covers.
The 1967 Programme Covers and an NSCC Club Torque Magazine cover from May 1967 - It includes a report, results and photos from the NSCC Second Hill Climb at Cosseys Farm in April 1967
The Hill Climb information has been posted on the NSCC The Early Years thread
More details to follow from the Programmes and will help identifying competitors and the races - photos.
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Some John Larry Lawton photos from NSCC Meetings at Pukekohe in 1965 have emerged and been posted on the thread
" Northern Sports Car Club ... ".
" http://www.theroaringseason.com/show...y-years/page23 "
A couple are repeated here but go to page 23 for the complete set - Programme Entry Lists from Milan Fistonic also help identify cars drivers winners and placegetters for some events.
Reports on the first 10 years of the New Zealand Grand Prix at Pukekohe and the annual Wills / Gold Leaf / Benson and Hedges Race meetings appear in these magazines.
Already had been given [ a couple of years ago ] the 1963 - 1967 Editions of the booklet style -
" The SHELL Book of New Zealand Motor Racing ".
Recently was given a full set which is the Lot " 1963 - 1972 ".
In 1973 there was a Hardback Book also sponsored by SHELL covering the 1972 - 73 season, which also graces my bookshelf(ves).
Thanks to the generosity of a neighbour in the townhouse adjacent to where my late Uncle " Eddie " Dowding lived from the 1980's until 2015 RIP Eddie 1919 - 2018.
Thanks Rex Corbett - a car guy back in the day.
Some snippets from these will appear on this forum once I have had time to scan / copy and edit.
NZ Grand Prix meeting, timely as today is the NZ GP at Hampton Downs - on as write this
Also an Auckland Car Club Meeting.
A bit loose, Noel Goodwin- sponsored his own car loses his Mark 2 Zephyr.. Grand Prix meeting January 1969.
Going back to the April 1967 meeting.
Ross Hollings in his Mini - an Auckland Car Club " Dunlop " meeting
Marcel Grand in his Anglia #144 - car was a late entry as not in the Programme.
On his own.
In a group
Dennis Phillips in the other Anglia
A bit of damage to this Mini - J L Lawton had the caption "Harrington did this "
A grid start a photo that J L Lawton has in his collection not his photo.
Milan advises it is the Allcomers race from the meeting in late January 1966 and that it is Frank Radisich in the Dave Simpson Anglia [ not as noted on the photo].
Have a couple more photos from the NSCC meeting in February 1965 - from J L Lawton will go on the NSCC thread
Some photos taken at the Elbow / Stables corner at the Auckland Car Club meeting.
Rod Coppins in the lead in the Chev V8 Coupe..
At the back of the field in the Mark One Zephyr is John H [ John Hatton ] - who sent me the priogramme for this meeting many years ..
Now have a second copy [ Red ] and these from December 1960[ White ]and a 1963 ACC programme [ Blue ].
Well known Anglia - with a well known Race #105.. well they were the 105E Anglia
A couple of other Anglia's
John Larry Lawton photos..
The NZIGP 1965 Meeting - January 1965.
A series of photos of the Bob Jane Jaguar - which featured in only one Race and was being beaten by Rod Coppins in the Zephyr Corvette and actually was a dnf.
Most photos taken from the same spot - the Elbow /Stables corner
- photo credits attached - the first two are from Euan Sarginson and appeared in the 1965 Shell Book of New Zealand Motor Racing - which covered the 1964 - 65 Season.
More to come including the Programme Cover and the Entry List. - another Australian is in the list.
A couple more photos and the Programme Cover and Race Entry.
[ the photos from Steve Twist archives may have been posted before ]
The spinning Cortina is Alwyn Marshall ..a mixed field of Group 2 and Allcomer cars.
Another photo of the " Alwyn Spin "
Cortina #123 is John Ward .Old NZ Motor Racing archives
The Programme Cover
Entry List -John Climo archives.
Motorman Magazine photos GP meeting - John Climo archives.
The other Australian entry was Ian " Pete " Geoghegan in a Lotus Cortina .. long way to come for one race or did they compete at other meetings in the Tasman Series at Levin Wigram and Teretonga ?
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The New Zealand International Grand Prix meeting
The Auckland Star Trophy Race - and the Ken Wharton Memorial Trophy Race .. Event 9.
The Entry List - probably seen before but has notes on it for late entries and whar would appear top be placings down the side ..
Roger Smith was there in his Austin Healey, by the end of the year he had moved on the the Daimler " Dart " SP250.
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In 1960 Lou Kingsley with his modified Holden FE.
Standard Engine size - the original Holden motor
" Engine: 2.2L GMH '132' I6
Production: July 1956 – April 1958 ". actually 2171 cc
The engine was at 2,440cc [ 149 ci ] same capacity as later Holden's had - but presume a modified 132 ci,the next engine size in 1960's was the 138 ci = 2260 cc.
Lou and the Holden did the New Zealand " Season " from Ardmore to Teretonga, including Levin and the two W's - - -Wigram and finally Waimate,
according to Allan Dick.
A newspaper article on Lou Kingsley from Naomi Tait archives, followed by a photo of the family archives at Ardmore.
The Saloon Car Race at 9.30 was the under 1500cc - event
Entry List for the Event.
The Saloons got one race that day as did most other classes, except the Grand Prix entrants and the competitors who could enter but did not qualify for the Grand Prix itself.
Three Holden engines in the event with another Saloon 2171 cc and the Holden powered 2171 cc De Joux Coupe of Ferris De Joux.
Copy of Programme from Allan on TRS, now in my archives.
Entry Lists from the two " W " events,
The Lady Wigram Trophy Races at Wigram, Christchurch ...
- and the Waimate " 50 " event at ... Waimate, Canterbury.
Wigram.
from the archives of John Windelburn - a typed list and not from the Official Programme
Waimate.
The Waimate event was for cars over 1550 cc - unlike Ardmore where the cut off was 1500cc - but a similar class structure applied at Wigram 0 - 1100 and 1101 to 1550 cc, the 1551 to 2300 cc [ no entries ?] and the over 2300 class
Lou Kingsley had signwriting on his car as the Worlds Oldest Racing Driver and the mention of New Zealand when he visited.
.. I am sure Cyril Hyde would later beat that and a few others since here in New Zealand.
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The NZ Grand Prix meeting and in the small Saloon class a big spin at the top of Rothmans.
Cyril Hyde in his Anglia hit a patch of oil - a sequence of John Larry Lawton photos.
Appears to have caused an issue for Roy Harrington in his Imp - did they hit ?
Cyril and the spin -close to a Marshalls Post.
The Harrington Imp is close - did they hit ?? Looks like it !! First photo no damage to the rear
The Anglia getting loaded up and the Imp on a rope tow.
Cyril Hyde also entered the Larger capacity Saloon Car Race at the meeting
Here the Entry list for that race - Event 8 at 2.20 pm
Colour photo of the start - archives B Marshall.
The Entry List for the 0 - 1000 cc Race Event 2. at 10.55 am
*** See Milan's post #482 - Article from Motorman about the race.
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