Motor Racing Photography

[khyndart in CA]

I would say it is 1966 which was the first race for Bruce McLaren in his McLaren Ford. The BRM at the rear in # 15 post photo next to Jo Siffert's Brabham-BRM is American driver Bob Bondurant.

Qualifying order for that race which only had 4 finishers !
# 1 Jim Clark. # 2 John Surtees. # 3 Jackie Stewart. # 4 Graham Hill. # 5 Lorenzo Bandini. # 6 Denis Hulme. # 7 Jochen Rindt.
# 8 Bob Anderson.(Brabham Climax) # 9 Richie Ginther. # 10 Bruce McLaren. # 11 Jack Brabham. # 12 Mike Spence. # 13 Jo Siffert.
# 14 Jo Bonnier. # 15 Guy Ligier.(Cooper Maserati) # 16 Bob Bondurant.

The start of the 1966 Monaco Grand Prix. (Another Jesse Alexander photo )



p.s. I think Jesse Alexander photographed from a much safer place than the photographers up from
St. Devote in photo post # 15. They were brave or crazy to stand there on an opening lap, especially the guy sitting on the curb !



( Ken Hyndman )

[ERC]

Yup. 1966 it must be. Just goes to show that when dating photographs (which I am trying to do), it can be a real struggle without some other references. What I thought might have been Ginther's Honda looks now to be a Cooper Maserati, which is a little bit clearer on a web search which turned up a slightly larger version of that very photograph.

I have had to go back to a pile of Whenuapai slides and work out which marshal's point I was on to try and sort out the year!

Pukekohe, being the regular track for me as a marshal, is twice a difficult without a race programme. Sometimes, you have to look at external factors such as foliage, the weather, track developments and it isn't easy, so when there is a request for a date, a correct answer is invaluable.

[khyndart in CA]

Monaco 1966.
This must have been before cameras had big lens and the photographers had big ......
At least the guys on the right look like they are a little prepared behind the hay bales.
The guy sitting on the curb just amazes me ! He must have had a good insurance policy.
Now Nigel, Ross, Ray and others, would you have positioned yourselves in that spot ?
WOW !





( Ken Hyndman )

[ERC]

No Ken, I wouldn't and even now, on the rare occasions I am allowed virtually free access, my first thought is always - "What do I do if there is an errant car?" That means being able to drop down behind the Armco, a pile of tyres or even behind a sign or tree! First of all though, you have to take a pic...

Not sure what the others would do but from what I have seen in recent years, photographers are either more safety conscious or officials make it quite clear where they cannot stand.

[Oldfart]

No Ken, I wouldn't and even now, on the rare occasions I am allowed virtually free access, my first thought is always - "What do I do if there is an errant car?" That means being able to drop down behind the Armco, a pile of tyres or even behind a sign or tree! First of all though, you have to take a pic...

Not sure what the others would do but from what I have seen in recent years, photographers are either more safety conscious or officials make it quite clear where they cannot stand.

Or on occasions officials with little knowledge make it clear you can stand in a dangerous spot, but not in a really safe one?

[khyndart in CA]

I have to admit that over the years I have not been aware of much harm coming to a race photographer and you have all gone to great lengths to bring us the best photos possible.

I do remember Jesse Alexander telling me a marshal died next to him at the start of the 1962 Monaco Grand Prix.
The marshal was killed by the dislodged right rear wheel of Richie Ginther's BRM when it collided with the Lotuses of Maurice Trintignant, Innes Ireland and Trevor Taylor, as well as Dan Gurney's Porsche at the Gasometer hairpin on lap 1.






Jesse Alexander photos. Monaco Grand Prix. 1962.







(Ken Hyndman )

[seaqnmac27]

The proximity of photographers was my point in posting the pic from Monaco. Ken you are right, the guy sitting cross legged on the footpath sure is brave!

[seaqnmac27]

Maybe a touch... touched too!

[khyndart in CA]

In- car photography has altered slightly since Graham Hill tried this arrangement back in 1965. (He looks really thrilled at doing this !)



In 1962 he was lucky to survive a crash he had at the Nurburgring circuit when a camera fell off his BRM and he ran over it.
So putting the camera on his helmet probably made him feel better.
In 1962 Graham was involved also with this Shell film of Hermann Lang driving a Mercedes W125 around the full 14 mile circuit.
It is great viewing.



(Ken Hyndman )

[GD66]

In 1962 he was lucky to survive a crash he had at the Nurburgring circuit when a camera fell off his BRM and he ran over it.

The camera fell off de Beaufort's Porsche ahead of him and he ran over it.

[ERC]

The camera Graham ran over was a cine/movie camera. Post #29 is a 35mm still camera.