Anglias

[Rod Grimwood]

That was back in 84 I think. Mo has changed colour and the young lass on the right with sunglass's still makes diner most nights. I ran in Sports Sedan Association which was basically the Noth Island version of OSCA. Ran with OSCA guy's as well. Won 2Ltr Championship in it.
Yea Capri front gear, rear was turreted she handled fairly good, loved the wet, get in and give those big boys a bit back in wet (the big bullies) I ran Pacific front tyres front and rear which I got off Steve Millen as I also helped with his car so that was handy and they were nice and sticky.
Still got handles somewhere Shano, and yea it makes you wonder ah, I think we drank all kinds back then.
Remembered my brother did a deal with Brian Friend with the car, he was going to breadvan it, and the last i heard of it. It was a neat car most probably still my favourite in memory.

Time goes by, done some research and it was back in 81. Lol

[Steve Holmes]

Ross McKay from Timaru ran the ex Ivan Segadin Anglia with the Climax engine in hillclimbs and when the engine failed my wife brought the car for me minus engine as a wedding present and we arrived back on the Coast from our honeymoon complete with the anglia on an A frame towed behind the Anglia van that the had run in the 1970 Silver Fern Rally a few weeks previously.

My first event in the car was a hillclimb at Harris Swamp on the Old Chch road, towed the car out behind the van then removed the 1200cc engine and gearbox from the van and installed it in the "Wacky Racer" as some of the Coast boys had named it as I only had the one engine and gearbox between the two vehicles, did the job at the hillclimb and then had to change everything back over again so I could tow the thing home and get down to the Aussie for the post event shambles.

As funds improved we eventually fitted a 1500 engine, a couple of Webers but still kept the std Anglia gearbox as it was pretty quick off the mark and when Bob Homewood arrived on the scene driving Jim Kennedy's BDA we did have some good old battles. When we left the Coast for the Far North we sold the car to the late Allan Hewlett who was another very acomplished driver and eventualy the car rotted away behind the Kumara garage until one day during a cleanup it went to the tip. About a month after Allan had done this I contacted him with the view of purchasing the car as it had quite a bit of NZ race history. Allan went to retrieve it but a flood in the Turamakau River the previous week had washed though part of the tip and the car now lies somewhere out in the Tasman Sea

Brilliant post Carlo!

[Steve Holmes]

Where is the Doyle Corvette Anglia at now? I know it was with an owner a few years ago, does he still have it? Has a resto been started?

[105angria]

Doyles and others

[fastback]

The Neil Doyle Corvette Anglia was built at the Tinwald service station, Ashburton by Murray Ellwood (nick name Crankshaft) who drove a much modified red and white mk 11 zephyr road car. Ian Donald also helped on the build of the anglia and later drove a Mk11 Jaguar in south island pre 65 racing.

[105angria]

Hey Fastback are Murry and Ian still around they would be a great resource for a rebuild or replica

[105angria]

last info re Doyles

[fastback]

last info re Doyles

Hi
Murray passed away many years ago. Ian Donald owned Alford Auto Spares in Ashburton, but has since retired. I will try to locate him as he would have alot of knowledge on the original build. I do know it had MK111 Zephyr front struts and discs.

[bry3500]

tahunanui

[bob homewood]

Bit of trivial history I guess ,but at the start of the 69/70 NZ Saloon Car Championship,the Motorsport Association of NZ changed around the classes and the rules for the forthcoming season,and the way the rules were you could not use a 5 Bearing block in a Anglia in the Championship anymore .I still had a 1475cc three bearing engine with a steel bottom end that I had used in earlier times ,so I decided to stick this old war horse engine back in my basically Club Anglia and do a couple of the rounds more or less for fun,it actually went surprisingly well for what it was ,this photo was from Pukekohe,at the round that was held there on the old long GP circuit ,which used the elbow that is evident in the photo.

[David McKinney]

You about to pass Rodger Anderson?

[Shano]

Terrific photo - I loved the long circuit.

[beowulf]

Somebody a long time ago told me that the demon tweak with Anglia motors was to use a three bearing crank in a five bearing block. Is this true or was some one winding me up?

[Steve Holmes]

Bit of trivial history I guess ,but at the start of the 69/70 NZ Saloon Car Championship,the Motorsport Association of NZ changed around the classes and the rules for the forthcoming season,and the way the rules were you could not use a 5 Bearing block in a Anglia in the Championship anymore .I still had a 1475cc three bearing engine with a steel bottom end that I had used in earlier times ,so I decided to stick this old war horse engine back in my basically Club Anglia and do a couple of the rounds more or less for fun,it actually went surprisingly well for what it was ,this photo was from Pukekohe,at the round that was held there on the old long GP circuit ,which used the elbow that is evident in the photo.

Bob, why did MANZ feel the need to make this decision? Was it in an effort to try and modernise the cars in the NZ Saloon Championship in the hope the Anglia guys would upgrade to an Escort?

[Jac Mac]

Somebody a long time ago told me that the demon tweak with Anglia motors was to use a three bearing crank in a five bearing block. Is this true or was some one winding me up?

Other way around...five bearing crank in three bearing block... the anglia Franicevic used in one of the first major rallys [ Silver Fern ?] in NZ was reputed to have been a 1300 or 1500 crank in anglia block plus overbore, possible because on early 5 brg cranks #2&3 rods were fed from center main.

[bob homewood]

Somebody a long time ago told me that the demon tweak with Anglia motors was to use a three bearing crank in a five bearing block. Is this true or was some one winding me up?

Beowulf, some of the smaller capacity ones I have seen ,have had five bearing cranks in a three bearing block,we had one recently that the crank had been machined up from a casting in its earlier days and the two bearings that where not used were still rough finished,you could do it with the smaller capacity engines.I have actually slipped a 1500 crank into a three bearing block,just for a look ,I think you would have to grind too much of the block away to make it possible.I used to run my "own personal " five bearing blocks with heaps of clearance on the two intermediate bearings,and then restrict the oil feed to those bearings.I have never built a customer engine like that ,as I am not sure that most people would go with my thinking,actually the crank etc that I mentioned, I had in that car above ,back when I got those parts and the skullduggery that happened to me by a certain party on the other side of the world is a story that belongs in Yards and Yarns

[bob homewood]

Bob, why did MANZ feel the need to make this decision? Was it in an effort to try and modernise the cars in the NZ Saloon Championship in the hope the Anglia guys would upgrade to an Escort?

Steve it was another of the revamps and changes that took place ,I guess I could probably reproduce part of the text here without upsetting the copyright people ?
The 1500 five bearing blocks were out at the end of the Allcomers,there was a rule in there somewhere that perhaps David will remember that you had to use the same block that came out with the car ,Anglias never came out with a five bearing block ,the Anglias that had raced the previous seasons were 1300cc ones,the longer stroke Classic 315 ones were not a strong crank and the move had been to Escorts,which I guess is what they really wanted ,however as I said I had the steel crank etc from earlier days and you could rev it lots higher without fear of it breaking,so as I said I decided to put in and do a couple of meetings,I was under no illusions that it was a winner,however even I was actually surprised at how well it went,not sure that might have actually been one of the last times a Anglia run in that series,sombody will know

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks for that Bob. Yes it does sound a little like they wanted you Anglia guys to switch to the current Escort just a little doesn't it, or at least it seems they wanted the Escort to be the faster car. So perhaps that was motivation to switch. Though to their credit MANZ did make some good decisions when they introduced Group 5 for the 1968 season. The FIA regs required the models competing could be no more than 5 years old, in an effort to keep the cars current, but MANZ changed this to 10 years for NZ. Not that it would have affected the Anglia though, I think that was built until around 1967?

[David McKinney]

I'm sure the Escort had nothing to do with it. I'm pretty sure FIA Gp5 rules (at least as used by MANZ) stipulated original blocks so, as Bob says, no five-bearing Anglias

The first season of Gp5 in NZ was 1968

The first Escort to race in NZ did so in July of that year - well after the end of the championship season. Driver by the way was a chap called Jim Richards...

[bob homewood]

Not a very good photo sorry it has not stood the test of time ,but its the late Noel Goodwin in the Greg Sheldon TC Anglia at Pukekohe ,from memory Sept 1969 42 years ago to this week end