i love the deep buttoned diamond pleating and those seats look very comfortable with armrests.
So they were like that back then when they were raced?
Also was it a Sunday drive here, or were they at speed?
In the old black and white movies they always looked very ferocious in corners.............
John
They were out there qualifying in Group 1 Pre- 1941 Sports,Touring and Racing Cars.
A few dollars wrapped up in these three cars !
(Ken Hyndman photos )
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One of my favorite Trans Am cars was this 1970 Plymouth Cuda that had first been driven by Dan Gurney and his protégé Swede Savage who was to sadly die in a massive crash during the terrible 1973 Indy 500.
Driven at Sonoma by the very friendly Bill Ockerlund.
(Ken Hyndman photos )
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We rarely see those really old cars here...
In Australia they would be Group K, which is mostly populated by modern builds using old styles and components. Pre WW1 - forget it, nothing here.
We don't see very much American-style or V8 Mopar either, in-period we had none with the exception of the Valiant Chargers and their predecessors in production racing, so very few people think of them as a racing option in Australia.
One of these 1970 AAR Cudas went to Chrysler France in 1971 and raced various European events under Group 2 rules. It was eventually fitted with a big block Hemi and one year (1975 I think) attempted to qualify for Le Mans.Originally Posted by khyndart in CA
One of my favorite Trans Am cars was this 1970 Plymouth Cuda that had first been driven by Dan Gurney and his protégé Swede Savage who was to sadly die in a massive crash during the terrible 1973 Indy 500.
Driven at Sonoma by the very friendly Bill Ockerlund.
(Ken Hyndman photos )
Hi Ray, its my understanding the cars that race under Group Nc historic touring cars are only allowed to be the same make/model and year as what raced in the ATCC until the end of 1972?
A little more on number 42
(Ken Hyndman photos
That's a common misconception, Steve...Originally posted by Steve Holmes
Hi Ray, its my understanding the cars that race under Group Nc historic touring cars are only allowed to be the same make/model and year as what raced in the ATCC until the end of 1972?
The wording is, "vehicles of a year, make and model which competed in Australia between 1 January, 1965, and 31 December, 1972 in either the Australian Touring Car Championship or races specifically for 3rd Category Group C Improved Production Touring Cars and Series Production Touring Cars."
So Valiant Chargers are eligible, as are Pacers, but no V8 Mopars ever ran here in that era.
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Here is something a little different.
A 1935 Pirrung Special. # 14
(Ken Hyndman photos )
I want to apologize for presenting you with a bunch of cars that probably don't mean much to you folks in Australasia but I had fun with my little Nikon Coolpix S6800 camera and I still have some more inputs left. I will be off your front page soon, I promise.
If anyone wants a copy of anything at more than 185 KB you know how to reach me.
Ken
Here is a bit about a Kiwi.
When driver Robert Kauffman took his 1990 Toyota Eagle Mk 2 # 99 out in the morning practice it came into the pits with electrical issues and could not be repaired in time for the afternoon qualifying in the Group 11 Historic Can-Am and FIA and GTP cars.
When Robert found the Toyota could not be fixed in time he contacted Kiwi Tony Nicholson who has a business for preparing historic race cars at the Sonoma Raceway. Tony is an expert on all early McLarens and can name where every early McLaren car is located.
Anyway Tony and his very able son, Colin were given 1 hour to get Robert Kauffman's 1972 McLaren M8E # 55 out of storage and ready for the qualifying session. They managed to achieve this even with me hanging around asking dopey questions etc.
Tony & Colin with the 1972 McLaren M8E.
Thanks you two for all the good snacks !
(Ken Hyndman photos )
Ken, I hope you didn't misunderstand my lamentation...
When I said we don't see those cars here I was saying that you are very fortunate to have that enormous variety and that we are missing out. And we are, therefore, fortunate that you have presented those photos.
As I restored my own Mini Cooper over the years I was constantly contacting "Mini Mania" owned by Don Racine for parts and advice.
Don and his family had a group of very fast Minis at Sonoma that were ahead of their class that day.
Don and Dennis Racine in their Minis.
After another win for the Racine Team.
(Ken Hyndman photos)
Don Racine's Mini's are both old historic race cars. I think 62 is the lastest one he has restored Ken and I think in period they were team cars.
Are they the ones John Unsbee drove?
Yes Ray, I think they are.
Ken, keep the photos coming. I am 100% certain that historic motorsport people appreciate all types of historic race cars. Love all of the classes that you have posted photos of so far. I love the 1960's and 70's F1 and Le Mans cars as well as the Can-Am cars.
Ken H,do not apologise [ with a " s " - you have been there too long or have a spellchecker with an American accent !! ] we love your stuff, and cars that we may never see here in the Southern Region of the world ..
Thanks Roger and Mike,
I do get a bit confused at times ; is it a programme or a program, a tire or a tyre, is it gray or grey etc. etc.
Remember this is a country where you drive on the parkway and park in the driveway !
I am pleased that you can handle all the "stuff" I throw out at you.
Ken.
Ray and Bruce,
Tell me how you knew about John Unsbee ? You got me interested and yes those Racine Minis are what John raced in the early seventies.
I found this interesting article.
http://www.minicooperrace.com/1971_S...ohn_Unsbee.cfm
John having his dad check out his latest investment.
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