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Thread: SCCA regional events in Texas etc. 1960s-70s through the lens of Jerry Melton

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    Are we to conclude that the TR6's ignition has been tampered with?

    Modern-style coils mounted low down, crank trigger ignition?

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    Ray,
    That is a prototype of what we hope will be the next generation TR 6 Supercharger system.
    The first type had a modified Holley 2300 downdraft carb. which after a while did not work so well.
    I can't say much more except it is a GM type coil pack ignition with a single point fuel injection system.
    Moss has made a special throttle body, it has sensors for throttle position, crankshaft and MAP etc.
    The original distributor is in there so the tachometer cable can be utilized.

    p.s. It is not on the market yet.

    Ken

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    It is always good to see someone has done well after being a race driver.
    Bill Marsh is a good example, as he has established a very successful Auto Group with his family at Traverse City and Saginaw in the state of Michigan.

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    Bill Marsh in his Formula B / 2 Brabham BT 21. July 1969.
    (Jerry Melton photo.)

    A site regarding Bill Marsh in 2019.
    https://www.billmarsh.com/dealership/about.htm


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    Some of the Formula Open Wheel Class cars at Waterford Hills. July 1969.
    Formula C cars
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    F-C Stanguellini FJR Alfa 1300cc DOHC Pete Klain Owner/Driver# 44

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    Formula Fords. (Note the early type wing arrangement on the last FF. # 39 )
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    (Jerry Melton photos..)

    Ken H

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    car no 33, and car no 3 in the photos above are fomula 'C' going on the info on the side of the car. both are using weber side draft carbs as well

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    Both of those FFords look a lot like Lotus 20s, though the first one looks to have a different nose and windscreen...

    The FC cars both seem to have Brabham wheels. But maybe I'm wrong with the Kasprowicz car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by khyndart in CA View Post
    Ray,
    That is a prototype of what we hope will be the next generation TR 6 Supercharger system.
    The first type had a modified Holley 2300 downdraft carb. which after a while did not work so well.
    I can't say much more except it is a GM type coil pack ignition with a single point fuel injection system.
    Moss has made a special throttle body, it has sensors for throttle position, crankshaft and MAP etc.
    The original distributor is in there so the tachometer cable can be utilized.

    p.s. It is not on the market yet.

    Ken
    Ken H - I wondered about the " wireless " Dizzy too !!
    Guess they will make a cap to cover the lead holes !!

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    It would be more fun to run dummy wires to the dipstick to make onlookers guess some more...

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    It is amusing how one "dizzy' cap gets so much attention.
    Perhaps the dummy wires would be interesting or a pen holder etc. .. etc..
    It would have been so much easier to have some ignition boots put on the cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell View Post
    It would be more fun to run dummy wires to the dipstick to make onlookers guess some more...
    Love it Ray .. then they would plaster it all over Facebook !!

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    One driver who competed at this track in 1969 was a young 22 yr.old, Chuck Bartlebaugh, who drove a McLaren 1 C Can Am car # 79 against various fields. He raced this car for several years including the 1974 Mid-Ohio Can Am race which included Porsche 917/10s and Shadow DN 4s etc ! (Imagine the speed difference !)
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    (Jerry Melton photos..)

    Perhaps due to the racing experience against "The Bear" Denis Hulme, helped Chuck prepare for his later career change where he now lives close to where our daughter lives in Missoula, Montana. (See the site below.)

    http://www.bebearaware.org/AboutChuck/aboutchuck.html


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    Tomorrow I am off to join my son on the US Navy aircraft carrier USS Stennis as we join up in what is called a "Tiger Cruise" where family members can sail on board for 4 days from Florida up the East coast to Norfolk,Virginia. We will have no land contact unless there is an emergency which at the moment it seems anything could happen !
    Apart from that I found Jerry Melton had photographed this unique looking race car but there was no description but with some research I managed to find some information. It reminded me of the time I saw Graham McRae in action in a Begg FM 2 at Baypark in 1969.Name:  Baypark Begg f5000.jpg
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    Check the rear view mirror set up which was popular in US club racing about 1971.

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    It started in the Formula Libre class but later raced in Formula B. (This photo gave the first clue to what is was.)
    (Jerry Melton photos )
    1968 Miller-Lotus
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    "Designed and built by George Miller, senior Pontiac Transmission Designer at the time. Rather than steel tubing or sheet aluminum monocoque chassis it utilizes a stiff, lightweight aluminum honeycomb monocoque sheathed in composites, and joined by aluminum gussets. Miller had access to the Pontiac wind tunnel and with extensive testing; they developed a unique high down force body, well ahead of its time. The chassis rolls on Lola T-70 wheels, which are suspended by upper and lower A-arms in the front, and a DeDion suspension system in the back. The car comes with a box of original blue prints for all the special parts made at Pontiac. The dry-sumpted Lotus twin-cam is mated to a 4-speed, all aluminum gearbox from the Corvair tech center, with power being fed to the rear wheels by a Halibrand quick-change rear-end. The car has disk brakes all around. Miller claims the car weighs 800lbs. The car was finished in 1968 and run in SCCA regional races in the same year. This car won or broke in every race it ran, lapping the field in two laps in its only rain race. In aerodynamic tests in 1968 the car as clocked at 173mph powered by a 180hp HART. The car was sold to Michigan in 1971, then to Tennessee where it sat until the late 1980s. Charles Hoopaugh, an employee at Fantasy Junction for almost 20 years, bought the car and restored it in 1990. During the restoration he had the motor rebuilt at Tommy Crowther (160 hp), dyno time only. All new aeroquip lines, Teflon brake and clutch lines, new tires, and new fire system. The fuel cells were re-replaced again in 2004. The starts, but has not been raced since the completion of the restoration. The car is vintage eligible for HMSA, HSR, CSRG, VARA, and SCCA Vintage race groups."
    https://www.fantasyjunction.com/sold...s-f-b/overview

    Ken H.
    (All aboard..Eh Eh Captain..)
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    Have fun on the cruise Ken, That sounds like an amazing experience.

    Thanks for he added photos.

    Bruce.

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    Is it possible to find out any more about this 'Miller-Lotus'?

    Allen Brown has nothing about it on his 'Old Racing Cars' site, even though the spiel here says that it won a number of races.

    Surely there's more information available?

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    Ray,
    That spiel might have been for sales purposes !
    It obviously worked in 2006.

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    It's quite funny, Ken...

    Allen, when I asked him about this car, told me he really doubted that it had ever raced. He knew of it, but its history seemed fabricated because he'd never seen any proof anywhere that the car had been on a track.

    The pics you've posted have given it some credibility. To give credibility to the sales pitch, however, will take a bit more work.

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