Great idea Oldfart. You say Minis and the 105E are out, BECAUSE they would clean up. Point taken. In the few models you list that are OK, one, the Zephyr is going to be the one to clean up here!!!!!! What about an MG 1100 ? The ado16 shape may JUST scrape in. Happy to hear your thoughts on all this. Should be a bit like Dale Mathers and his muscle cars...get TOUGH with regs. NO excuses!!! The hot shot boys can go 'jump in the lake'.