Both Red and John were great guys and true enthusiasts. Despite being a direct competitor to John's son Brett, they were both more than generous to me personally with time and advice and more importantly, Mrs J Riley used to feel sorry for the "impoverished" corner of the pits and fed us!

The pit area was divided into the "establishment" and the "outlaws" and John and Red were definitely the later. It always paid to be near their pits for the after match!