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    That is a really neat model. At that scale they tend to lose some detail but that looks spot on.

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    This is Grant Aitken's beautiful 1970 Boss Mustang. Originally built by Brett Walker, Grant recently bought it, and it'll be ready to hit the track soon. Great to see Grant getting involved with HMC. He has a wealth of experience, and will be a welcome addition to the group.

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    What a fantastic looking car - it will be great to see it on track. Hopefully Grant can make it to the Hulme Festival. HMC is the right class for that car - you certainly wouldn't want some driver with eye mist blurring his vision slamming into it.

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    You got that right Mike. Whats more, its a genuine Boss 302.

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    I agree Mike, it`s a nice looking car. The one thing that I have noticed with HMC and how it`s shaping up, is the both the level of commitment - whether financially or authenticity - and the like mindedness of the guys that will be competing and I reckon when the punters see 20 plus of these cars coming up the hill for the first time at Hampton Downs in January, it`ll make people realise what Steve, Tony and Dale have worked so hard to make happen and I for one am looking forward to being part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullnoise68 View Post
    I agree Mike, it`s a nice looking car. The one thing that I have noticed with HMC and how it`s shaping up, is the both the level of commitment - whether financially or authenticity - and the like mindedness of the guys that will be competing and I reckon when the punters see 20 plus of these cars coming up the hill for the first time at Hampton Downs in January, it`ll make people realise what Steve, Tony and Dale have worked so hard to make happen and I for one am looking forward to being part of it.
    I fully agree Steve - there is some real commitment here and a genuine interest in running period looking cars with no major enhancements to make them go faster. Roll on January. How is your Camaro progressing - is it in country yet ??

    Mike John keeps telling me that his period cars won't foot it with the Escorts etc because of the improvements made to them over the years. That doesn't worry me as I want see the cars in action not whether they can beats the pants off the opposition. I believe that this is what the punters want as well. Yes 20 or so big, noisy period V8's coming up over the start finish line will certainly make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. These will beat V8 Supercars hands down in my book. Just look at the attendance figures at Eastern Creek for the recent Australian Muscle Car Masters and V8 Supercar events. I think that says it all.

    Mike

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    Mike my Camaro gets here just prior to Labour Weekend. I think Steve is doing an article on it for next months NZ Classic Car magazine.

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    This is Steve Elliott's '68 Camaro, due to arrive in NZ in a couple of weeks. Bloody nice car! The pics don't do it justice. I'm sure Steve will snap plenty more once he gets it home:

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  9. #269
    Just a shame that we have to run non period mufflers, imagine the start at HD then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John McKechnie View Post
    Just a shame that we have to run non period mufflers, imagine the start at HD then.
    DO WE?

    Dale M

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    Yeah, I'm with you on this one Dale. The first unwritten rule of HMC should be " No mufflers required "

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    No mufflers allowed

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    So what`s the deal now: Grey hairs and 4 gears, grey pipes and who cares!

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    We all wish, no one actually says we have to have mufflers, we just have to be under the decible limit, which you can not do without mufflers. the Blue car was awesome with the first exhast system I tried but have had to put some more muffling in to comply? What a pity it was unreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parnelli View Post
    Yeah, I'm with you on this one Dale. The first unwritten rule of HMC should be " No mufflers required "
    Well that attitude unfortunately should stop motor in NZ racing dead in it's tracks.

    Guys it is now year 2012 catch up with some things that whilst we enjoyed it years ago it is no longer acceptable from the days when we started it out. My first lesson of this was back around 1978 or 79 when my boys cried their eyes out from the noise of Ozzo's car when he started the engine on the dummy grid. It was just too much for them whilst for me who was half deaf from race engines I could not understand the problem.

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    Man, I really started something here with the return to no mufflers-are the prison inmates complaining?I am with Bruce-no mufflers allowed, how can you have a period racer when you can here yourself think.I remember Les Parkinson saying he used to listen to Neil Diamonds -Hot August night when racing his V12 Jag.-thats what happens when you have mufflers.Please, save us from Neil Diamond-NO MUFFLERS. Lets have a Rod Coppins Reunion race- out of respect, all V8 exhaust pipes must run up through the bonnet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlo View Post
    Well that attitude unfortunately should stop motor in NZ racing dead in it's tracks.

    Guys it is now year 2012 catch up with some things that whilst we enjoyed it years ago it is no longer acceptable from the days when we started it out. My first lesson of this was back around 1978 or 79 when my boys cried their eyes out from the noise of Ozzo's car when he started the engine on the dummy grid. It was just too much for them whilst for me who was half deaf from race engines I could not understand the problem.
    This class has been created to bring back a bit of the fun that we all enjoyed so much from our past and if that includes making a little bit more noise then lets go for it. I for one, have just about had enough of all the “P.C.” bullshit that we are having shoved down our throats by self serving bureaucrats. If all we get out of our governing body with their rip off priced licenses , exemption cards etc , is unwarranted litigation ( NZV8 / Supertourers ) and Noise Police then maybe it’s time we all followed the example of our straight line driving brothers down the road and tell MSNZ to stick there fees and noise police where the sun don’t shine.
    How is it that under MSNZ we have to meet a restrictive decibel limit whilst a kilometer down the road they run cars with 1000’s of horsepower with not a muffler in sight ? At Taupo , both codes even run on the same track , us with restricted decibel levels and them with none !

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    Last year at the HD Festival there were no noise limits, mainly due to the problems this would create with the F5000s, and next year also with the Can Am cars. Check the supplementry regs to see if a noise limit will be imposed, but I doubt it

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    This is a great response guys, lets build on this and really make HD next year absolutely memorable.Bruce-your Firebird never ran mufflers back then ? I know Red , John , Grady ,George, Rod, Jim etc never did. Lets push the envelope to see what we can achieve to make our Historics more nostalgic historics. More imput, more drive, more knowledge is needed here.We comply with safety which is most important.
    Thanks Parnelli , excellent attitude you have, and shared by so many of us out here.Enough positive feedback from all viewers here and things could work out .
    Grelley- great point worth following by our leaders.
    Whats your take here Dale?
    Always remember what it was that got us hooked on car racing in the first place-it was LOUD, racing is loud,we dont want it sanitised
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  20. #280
    In the US different historic groups have what is referred to as `open exhaust meetings' which are usually limited to `Can Am, F5000, Trans Am, etc' and only a few are held annually. It is controlled by local bylaws and only run at some tracks. The guy I bought my Camaro off reckons they are hugely popular because the punters get to see `real cars racing how they used to race'. HMC is not about living in a timewarp, it`s about enjoying the history and participation in the `real' era of Muscle Cars. Too many classes, both past and present, in NZ motorsport have been controlled by single minded wheelbarrow pushers. I would compare HMC using a comparison to rowing.... we aren`t in the single skulls rowing our own boat, we are in the `eights' where we are all in it together!

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