http://my105.com/ListingDetails/tabi...4/Default.aspx
Heres a good deal for someone!! Dale M
http://my105.com/ListingDetails/tabi...4/Default.aspx
Heres a good deal for someone!! Dale M
Jesus you can be a bugger at times Dale, more sleep lost, more Lotto tickets, and another divorce settlement.
Just see the sign outside your office 'Dale Mathers Marriage Guideance Councillor'
Rod- It is not surprising that you have been swept off your feet by the instant attractiveness of this model.
However if you step back, you will see that yours and this are the same age.
While this may look flashy it is mainly cosmetic, and these models like these tend to be overweight, hence the curves, especially the width of its backside. Just look at the size of the shoes needed for it to negotiate the road.
Yours on the other hand, is already light weight, very nifty having had consistant modifications during its life. No liposuction is needed for weight reduction, so its tiny little feet will waltz around the heifers .
Some minor botox and skin toner to get the body attractive so its easy on the purse.
And most important- dont get swept off your feet with a sexy recent import, I know of a couple of older gents who while initially gratified, have found these girls are high maintainance
In short-get your Escort down to Tony Rs place asap, that way you are committed to one course of action and not be distracted by things like this-
"John McKechnie Marriage Guideance Councillor"
Last edited by John McKechnie; 04-15-2014 at 01:09 AM.
It has moved John, not far but has moved.
I'm confused John, are you still talking about cars?Originally Posted by John McKechnie
Your confused ?
Oh, dear, looks like my venture into marriage guidence has ground to a halt....back to my daytime job
Last edited by John McKechnie; 04-15-2014 at 03:54 AM.
HMC gets a feature in the current online Motorsport news!! Dale M
http://news.motorsport.org.nz/histor...f11d-406387993
According to our young correspondent from Queensland, the Aussie TransAm guys have 17 confirmed starters for the Musclecar Masters at Eastern Creek in September. Clearly there are signs that there is a growing strength in their ranks with a number of new builds well under way. And they are still aiming for 12 cars to come over in January for our big meeting(s) at Hampton Downs. Let's hope there is strength in both numbers and quality in NZ's HMC class to take them on in a classy field of real authentic musclecars. The signs are that HMC should have a few more cars at the pointy end of the field compared to last time even if overall numbers may not have increased.
Last edited by Murray Maunder; 04-24-2014 at 05:35 AM.
Yes, correct Murray I have made a list and we should have 20 confirmed HMC racers alone and that's only counting the serious persons and not all the gunnas!! i've given up on them!! still, as I've found in the past life gets in the way so even some of these 20 may drop off but most all are aiming for the Festival, if we just get 15 along with 10 Aussies that would still make for a hell-off-a event.
Lots of behind the scene work going on already!
Dale M
Good news Dale. That means that we get a decent grid of Muscle Cars. Maybe two grids of F5000s, and a large ERC grid (weekend 2 only) plus the other grids.
This might well turn out to be one of the best Festivals on track, so far!
Quite possibly Ray, I got my fingers crossed for sure as there seems to be considerable interest for next Jan's festival in all class's across the board!! With the Aussie's Trans Am cars we will stand alone but don't want to get too cocky as i've been let down before, but i'll be keeping the hammer down that's for sure!!
Dale M
Ray has kindly invited all HMC persons to his ERC awards dinner which is on Saturday evening May 10th, please read below for details: Dale M
Date: May 10th
For HMC & F5000 drivers, cost will be $51. Great buffet – as long as Tony hasn’t scoffed most of it... Partners welcomed as we try to make sure it isn’t too ‘car’ based!
Payment: Strictly in advance to the Series bank account (see signature file below).
Bookings and payment must be before May 6th . I’d appreciate an email confirmation from attendees as to whether they are HMC or F5000 so that the table plan (tables of 8) can be organised.
Venue: CT Club Remuera
Time: Doors open 6:30pm seated 7:15pm Pay bar.
Dress: The theme is “Marque” or “Make” or maybe we’ll extend it to “Country”...
Although it’s the ERC Awards evening, it is very informal and hopefully a few laughs – usually at someone’s expense of course...
One of the important parts of the evening is the raffle or tombola /auction in aid of Child Cancer so donations of raffle prizes are welcomed.
Could be a very good night for you guys! It always is for us. There is a convenient Hotel just three minutes walk away on Green Lane.
Latest HMC E-mailout. Dale
Greetings HMC Fans, Guys and Gals Sorry for the delay in getting this mail-out done. Busy, Busy, Busy.
They say that “Rome wasn’t built in a Day” and you could also say that “All roads lead to Rome” and this typically describes HMC at the moment. We have all these cars coming but are very slow in showing up. We have vehicles been built, others undergoing major work, upgrades, and several looking to buy their dream historic racer. This all takes time and then there’s the “Fence sitters” and my god there’s enough of them to field their own group but will we see any? Certainly hope so. I know most are in self-employed business’s and it’s still a battle out there even though we know the economy is looking favourable so new builds have understandably been slow and on the back burner, generally second priority but do keep at it. Some parked up their cars missing the legends meeting for just this very reason but with a good 6 month break until September’s Ice Breaker I am sure we’ll see a couple surface and they need too. This is a good shake down event for the coming summer season, and once the Festival rolls around there will be no time to sort your car, as with those "Hot Shoe" Aussie's over you need it to be turn-key ready for both weekends.
As mentioned in past Mailouts I’ve been experimenting with the Avon 15” CR6ZZ historic radial DOT tyre on my Mustang and have found them extremely good. They are made in England and are a proper historic spec tyre for GT40’s, Shelby Mustangs, E-Type Jags, Camaros and most other larger saloons. Its what they must race on in Europe and England at events like Goodwood. For my Mustang I found them a great medium wet to dry racing tyre and when starting out in a wet race where the track slowly dry’s they work fantastic. They don’t go off like many wet tyre do, so with that in mind this will be our spec wet weather tyre for HMC and this also retains our 15" period wheel size.
So far Gimblett, MacDonald and myself have purchased them, so you should go for it. Lucky we have a Avon dealer here in Hamilton and they can be contacted at http://www.dold.co.nz/news/avon-ventura.aspx they handle Avon motorbike race tyres but will import the correct saloon CR6ZZ tyres for HMC, so give them a call. If you need some ideas of sizing please contact me.
For myself I also missed having the PDL Mustang at the Legends meeting for this very reason, and it also required damage repairs from the Festival Marque incident last January, so while it was apart I decided to do some upgrades. This will be ready for next season, so there you go guys NOW is the time to get that work done and get that HMC racer ready.
The Legends of Speed, March 2015. As mentioned above we had turn-key HMC vehicles ready to race but for this event their owners were a no show for the various reasons. However this was not good enough because if you want events we need you to turn up. The Legends is one of the premier classic meetings on the calendar and a perfect time of the year, great weather, still warm but not baking hot and daylight savings is still in. So make sure you mark your calendar for next year because we only had 8 HMC vehicles entered along with 15 under 3 litre historic saloons and Sports/GT’s. The racing was fantastic and socially it was a great weekend. On Ray Green’s advice we decide to do two roll up handicap races and this certainly worked a treat, giving everyone a reasonably even chance. The spectacle of this meeting was having Roger Williams newly imported American A-Sedan Camaro with us. What a fantastic effort by Roger and his team, only 2 weeks landed in NZ and he had the car repainted completely in American Airlines colors representing the ex-Joe Chamberlain Camaro as raced in back in 1972/3. Doesn’t it look the part.
Not only that, he refitted the headlights, door glass, bumpers, etc to make sure it was HMC compliant. This is what historic saloon car racing is about so a great effort Roger. But even at this event we didn't lose sight of historic racing values, we want the cars correct and it’s also about remembering the past era of NZ saloon car racing. So, because these old cars have made all the history they’re ever going to make, it makes winning that one extra race not so important and certainly isn’t going to add any value to your old racer! It’s about taking it out and enjoying it and THAT friends and racers is what HMC is about, and what we saw in Rogers effort at the legends.
U3L Historic Saloon Cars: The feedback from the Under 3 litre Saloons has been immense. Many have shown a keen interest to be incorporated in with HMC at the historic race meetings and as many have run with us are already up to MSNZ T&C specs. As they want to race in a more appropriate historic field, we have decide to allow this. It also makes good sense as this was the way New Zealand saloon car racing was run, back in the day. The U3L group still have the option to race in other groups at the same meetings should they so desire. So from this year’s September Ice Breaker meeting we will welcome all U3L pre 78 Historic saloons and GT’s that meet T&C or Schedule K regulations and have a current COD. For further information contact myself or Arther Vowles at janandarthur@gmail.com , more to come on this.
Certificate of Descriptions(COD's) for HMC cars are now mandatory. The only exceptions would be if you have filed you application and it’s not returned in time for the event. We will consider this acceptable but expect you to have it finalised for the next meeting. Raymond "Crunch" Bennett, our H&C Commission chairman, along with the rest of the H&C Commission committee have a made a big effort in working with HMC in ensuring applications once submitted, will usually be returned promptly. All HMC COD’s will be stamped by an official MSNZ stamp so check that yours is done. As mentioned in the past compliance will be a 2 step exercise for HMC Firstly they need the COD and then secondly they need an audit by a HMC Approved auditor.
By the Howden Ganley Festival, January 2015(8 months away) ALL HMC vehicles will need both these reviews. A COD is not hard and I am happy to help and Tony also has a very good handle on the COD system. Remember, a COD is your vehicles "Technical Passport" to historic car racing so it’s important to have it have regardless of the HMC Audit process. Our Tech auditors David Graham and Keith Hardgraves will handle the HMC Audit, and by the way David Graham is now a full fledged MSNZ COD auditor now, so well done David.
If you do not have a COD please go ahead and start your COD application now http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/d...6.03%20COD.pdf If your vehicle has a COD and you would like a audit pre-event then please contact myself or Tony and we will organise our tech auditors to get in touch. This will make things a lot easier at the race event if your vehicle is pre-audited.
Desirae Cameron, owner of HMC 65 Mustang 389 from Stratford has kindly offered her services to run our Historic Muscle Car Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/historicmusclecars so if you want to add any info please send it to her direct at desiraecameron@xtra.co.nz or maybe just post it yourself, this Facebook stuff is kind of new to me but I guess it’s another way to help promote HMC and old saloon car racing
Other News: We will very soon incorporate HMC as a society. The club will register with MSNZ and annual membership fee’s will apply. The sanctioning of the class with MSNZ to formalise the rules is currently under way. These two actions will help the class with such things as MSNZ recognised auditors, formal published class rules, facebook, magazine articles and promotional events outside the racing.
This is all but done bar the final paper shuffle and has taken a lot of work between myself, Mike(Coory) Steve, Tony, Crunch, and the other H&C commission members so though Mailouts have been tardy, behind the scenes plenty is happening. Health House has kindly agreed to come back as the HMC supporter for the 2015 Howard Ganley Festival. More info on this in future newsletters. Please remember that for all of us this is voluntary, if you haven’t heard anything for a while do feel free to call for a chat.
Australian Trans Am: Its still early yet but now I can confirm that at least 10 Australian Trans Am cars will make the trip to Hampton Downs in January 2015 for the Howden Ganley Festival. This is part of our bi-annual arrangement between HMC and ATA. In working together both ATA and HMC will look after each of their own perspective groups for vehicle compliance, with the goal that on track performance is kept evenly matched. Last time we came together only a fraction of a second separated the front 8 cars so this makes for very close racing. For those that don’t know, the 3 events we’ve done with ATA has been a hoot and even if you only do it once in your life it’s a must.
For the first time this year ATA will be racing at the Muscle Car Masters, Eastern Creek, Sydney, the event date is September 6/7th. So if you want to get away from the winter blues here’s a good change to visit this great event, support ATA and make yourself known! But, please make sure you’re back by the following week for the Ice Breaker at Hampton.
Australia 2015, Next year will see the return of HMC Queensland in June/July 15 for our bi-annual support trip to race with Australian Trans Am at QR and Lakeside. I know it is over a year away and a lot can happen in that time. But all I am asking for is for a show of hands of those interested, so please E-mail me direct. Currently this is the list below with those I’ve spoken too, who have expressed an interest:
1 - Roger Williams, 69 Camaro
2 - Tony Roberts, 70 PDL Mustang
3 - Andrew/Keith Sinclair, 70 Cuda
4 - Murray Brown, 70 Camaro
5 - Colin Dawson, 68 Camaro
6 - Roger Cunningham, 65 Mustang
7 - Steve Elliott, 68 Camaro
8 - Dale Mathers, 69 Mustang
9 - Craig Stacey(pretty sure Craig will be in?)
Now, if you are keen and not on the list don't panic, I probably haven't had a chance to catch up, have a chat and mention it. But go ahead and send me an E-mail if you're keen, believe me last year was fantastic.
Saloons Cars Post 12/77. A few have asked why no Commodore's, XD and up Falcons and other later saloons in HMC. “Don't you like Commodores!” one person asked. “Good question I said but no they aren't a Muscle or Saloon car in racing trim(blank look on their faces) they are "Touring Cars".
Group A & C touring cars came under a different set of rules in the day and were allowed different technology such as slick tyres, fuel injection, independent rear suspension. This is a major technological change for instance compared to pre Dec/77 Group 2 & 5 Saloons which HMC races under. There is a change over date between these category's by about 3 years which started in late 1974 and this makes some Torana Hatchbacks and Falcon Cobra coupes considered Touring Cars, but the FIA ruled that December 1977 was the "change in technology" time-frame date as did MSNZ, Historic and Classic Commission.
So this is the date we will use and is how its done overseas. If you are building a Commodore, XD+ Falcon or any other later Saloon car, to the Touring car regulations and want to race it at historic and/or classic events please contact Gerry Hodges(NI) gbhodges@xtra.co.nz and Rick Mikels(SI) rick@evoms.co.nz as they run their two historic touring car groups in NZ at various events such as the Festival of Motor Racing, Hampton Downs and the Southern Speed-fest, Teretonga. This is an awesome class when both groups come together, Commodores, Falcons, Sierras, XJ Jags, BMW's, Ford Telstars, a worthy class to be involved in and great to watch.
Maximum RPM Rule: Recently we have implemented a RPM limit rule to stop those from building mega dollar high revving engines. For engines over 350CI its 7000RPM max 302CI to 350CI is 7500 RPM max under 302CI its free. We will at our discretion rev limit engines within 10 percent of those sizes and if someone builds a 347 (just under 350CI) we may limit him to 7000RPM regardless if their is a proven advantage. We haven’t worked out the finer details of this but as most use a MSD ignition box we will supply our own HMC rev chips and fit them at the track. Once again this is for the benefit of historic racing and close exciting racing, so sorry NO complaints allowed.
Below are out race dates for 2014/15:
1 – Ice Breaker, September 13-14th 2014 at Hampton Downs
2 – Yet to be Named(Maybe a TACCOC, Pukekohe Event)
3 – Ferrari Festival, January 16-18th 2015 at Hampton Downs
4 – Ferrari Festival, January 23-25th 2015 at Hampton Downs
5 – Legends of Speed, March 28-29th 2015 at Hampton Downs
6 - Days of Thunder, Queensland Raceway, Australia, June 2015
7 - The Lakeside Classic, Lakeside Raceway, Australia, July 2015
Some may wish the race at the MG Classic, November 8/9th, which is a great event to support. I have been in touch with Ron Roberson over their wheel/tyre ruling so hoping to hear back with an answer before this event rolls around.
Also, go to our HMC website http://www.historicmusclecars.co.nz/...ut/about..html as I’ve now added a “Do’s and Don’ts” page to list some rulings and this will help most understand a rule definition.
Philosophy. Historic and Classic motorsport is that branch of the sport where vehicles from a past era are used in friendly rivalry to allow them to be exercised in a manner that the manufactures intended. It is not a branch of the sport where series and trophies for winning races are held in higher regard than the sheer enjoyment of being involved..
Steve Holmes continues with his monthly articles and ramblings in Classic Car Magazine, currently there is a great article on the March Legends meeting showing Roger Williams new 69 "Chamberlain Replica" Camaro and next issue will have an article on one of our own HMC racing legends.. Articles like this help lift the profile of Historic Saloon car racing in New Zealand, it certainly attracts the type of person we want to see in HMC.
In today’s high tech world it is a must to keep up with the play on the http://www.theroaringseason.com/foru...ral-Discussion with some fantastic information and discussion. Historic Muscle Car Tee Shirts are available for $20 each plus postage, E-mail me for size’s and colour.
Latest NZCC HMC article is amusing..... it`s about a retired pensioner living the dream!
How about this then! Its getting closer, and looks stunning.
Found this circling around on Facebook, thought it would be great to share here in regards to Lakeside 2013... ATA doing here in Aus (haven't posted much at all for a long time on here, been pretty busy), I think a couple of you may be coming over to watch us at MCM in Sydney and we are all looking forward to coming over in January for the Howard Ganley F5000 festival!
Thanks Dewi. Interesting map of Lakeside. The Loop actually doubles back in that picture.
The Speedshow is in 2 weeks, July 19/20th at the Greenlane Expo Centre, Auckland. These two HMC cars will be at the HRC stand, over the weekend myself and Steve Elliott will be there for general discussion and chatting, we'll have Dennis Marwood along to sign give-away poster and hopefully Paul Fahey.
See you all there. Dale M
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