Yep, thats right. I have to assume this was just an Allcomer type race.Originally Posted by stubuchanan
Yep, thats right. I have to assume this was just an Allcomer type race.
Now my curiosity is peaked! This must be the meeting I was at but do I not remember or photographed The E type because it didn't last a lap? Is there a story behind that car? was this a one time race? The rest of the field is group 5? Lastly why wouldn't the E type have been ok for that class. I know it looks out of place in that field but what why would it have been outlawed rule wise? I know there are guys on this site who can clear up this so i can sleep tonight!!
My point, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, was about the aerofoil not being a normal saloon car thing. It does seem to have been properly engineered, and looks to have stood up to the off track excursion, unlike similar high wings on Formula One cars around the same time, which didn't even stand up to the aerodynamic stresses put on them.
Here is a December 1968 photo from a poorly supported sports car race.
"Pink Goddess" - Are you referring to an E-Type Stock Car raced by NZ-born Morry Morice in England in the 1970's(??), who also ran in a couple of minor Formula One races in the 1950's in a Cooper-Bristol.
Stu
Hi Stu,The Pink Goddess is the pink Citroen-this model is known as "the goddess"- in the background, a.k.a.bloody laughing pipi.In the sports car race , while numbers are low, its a good quality field.The Elfin big block is there, usual suspects..........wheres Jaimie A?
Wow, superb photo Stu. Whats the car at the rear, is that the HWM-Cadillac? Boy the wing on the Wiseman Jag sure sits up high!My point, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, was about the aerofoil not being a normal saloon car thing. It does seem to have been properly engineered, and looks to have stood up to the off track excursion, unlike similar high wings on Formula One cars around the same time, which didn't even stand up to the aerodynamic stresses put on them.
Here is a December 1968 photo from a poorly supported sports car race.
"Pink Goddess" - Are you referring to an E-Type Stock Car raced by NZ-born Morry Morice in England in the 1970's(??), who also ran in a couple of minor Formula One races in the 1950's in a Cooper-Bristol.
Stu
I posted this photo on The Roaring Season Facebook page, and queried Beecheys decision to retro-fit the steel wheels the car raced on when first built in 1966, and since replaced by 5-spoke wheels. Allan Dick posted that Beechey was actually trying to sell the car in NZ. That would explain why the steel wheels found their way back on. Keep the good 5-spoke wheels, and sell it with the old steel ones. Unfortunately for Norm, it didn't find a buyer in NZ.Thats right Steve, Beechey actually raced the Nova in NZ on at least two occasions, once when it was black, in late 1967, then in its ''68 colour scheme, as seen here.
I checked it out one afternoon when it was sitting on a trailer at Manthel Motors ( Wellington's Holden and Chev dealers ) used car yard in Taranaki Street. It was late in the day and there were no salesmen around - probably in the public bar of the Panama Hotel, next door - so I never learnt what it was doing there. Perhaps someone in the Capital was a potential buyer.
This is a great pic of BayPark. I was at the exact same place at the start/Just look at the crowd and cars in the background
Surprising how often that bloody Laughing Pipi Citroen appears in the Bay Park pics...
Yeah I was thinking the same thing!Surprising how often that bloody Laughing Pipi Citroen appears in the Bay Park pics...
Same grid,same race, but better looking cars in back ground GD
Background cars?? Barely Hold in together?
The pink godess?
hilstwist, the E-Type ended up backwards through the fence at Harmans, so if you missed it on warm up lap and start it did not come past again. Photo somewhere on sight i think, i got one at home anyway.
That shot is already on this site somewhere, I thought it was at Levin as Wisemann had a huge off there going backwards, so may be he did it twice. Little story about that. He used to come down to the shop in Aotea Square put on his smelly old work clothes, potter about a bit, declare "I'm not going to finish this today, I might as well go home" put his good clothes back on and off he would go. This saying is still in use in my shop to this day. But it was repaired eventually.
Got it , post 9 Dave Silcock Jags
Nice piece of investigative work there Dave! As for why the Jag was racing in this event, could it be the race was just an Allcomer type race? Australia and NZ were running to slightly different saloon car regs, so I think a lot of those events where an international car/driver appeared usually didn't run to a strict set of rules. They were just for pulling a good crowd and putting on a show.
Here's a photo of the Wiseman E Type I took at Ray Larsen's place late last year.
Stewart
Thanks for posting Stewart. The car looks in very original condition. Does it still get raced at all?
Hope you don't mind I just rotated your photo.
At his 50th bash, probably !
Is that Brent Hawes on pole in the Begg ?
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