Interesting comments Ray and Rhys and the sort of thing we are grappling with Formula Juniors. Wearing my TACCOC hat, the cost of meetings are getting to the prohibitive level for most club based event organisers and the need to have large grid is becoming a necessity. With FJ we have trouble getting FJ only grids on our calendar and only TACCOC will provide this because that is where their background is (and a number of the committee members are FJ owners!). That is why we have been promoting joining in with VCC and we have been chasing down the likes of the Terrapin and early Formula Vee to join us as they are cars with similar performance. I think this will be the new normal and groups that don't combine will be left with nowhere to race and cars that accordingly become less valuable.