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    Still at the NSCC day. Alvis Special. I bagged a passenger ride in this. The 900 yard Curborough course isn't really long enough to fully enjoy that sort of unique experience.
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    The Howitt Printing European F2 meeting at Donington, July 3rd or 4th, 1982.
    At least these clockwork Frogs are Turbo, so a bit more exciting than the standard article we were lumbered with at Hertz, when they switched from Ford Fiestas.
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    Car 23 Philippe Streiff - AGS JH19/BMW and car 32 Thierry Boutsen Spirit 201/Honda. Mike Thackwell was also in this race, but sorry, no pic.
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    Not the sharpest of pics - but not the best of cameras - or photographers...

    Car #1 was Kenny Acheson, #2 Dr Jonathan Palmer in Ralt Hondas

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    Same meet as above. Round 7 of the Tricentrol British Saloon Car Championship.

    Jeff Allam Sanyo Rover V8
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    Steve Soper leads Alan Curnow and Richard Longman in 1300cc Austin Metros. (Not turbos...)
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    Duckhams and Outspan Minis
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    A rare outing (display only) for the Rover-BRM
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    The next season Steve Soper went from Metro to Rover Vitesse and was instantly the man to beat

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERC View Post
    Not the sharpest of pics - but not the best of cameras - or photographers...

    Car #1 was Kenny Acheson, #2 Dr Jonathan Palmer in Ralt Hondas

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    #7 is Stefan Bellof in the Maurer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERC View Post

    Still at the NSCC day. Alvis Special. I bagged a passenger ride in this. The 900 yard Curborough course isn't really long enough to fully enjoy that sort of unique experience.
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    The Howitt Printing European F2 meeting at Donington, July 3rd or 4th, 1982.
    At least these clockwork Frogs are Turbo, so a bit more exciting than the standard article we were lumbered with at Hertz, when they switched from Ford Fiestas.
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    Car 23 Philippe Streiff - AGS JH19/BMW and car 32 Thierry Boutsen Spirit 201/Honda. Mike Thackwell was also in this race, but sorry, no pic.
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    Ray, was that a one make series for Renault 5s? They look like the same versions that were rallied.

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    It is ironic that Stefan Bellof crashed his # 7 Maurer at Eau Rouge corner at Spa in 1982 at almost exactly the same spot where he died 3 years later in 1985 after colliding with Jackie Ickx while racing in a Porsche 956.
    He was one of the most promising driver's of his day but many felt he often drove over the limit as may have happened here.
    Ray, that is a neat photo you took of him.
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    Spa. 1982 at Eau Rouge Corner.


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    Correct Ken. The #7 is Bellof (correct spelling) in the Maurer. (If on Windows, run your mouse across the pic and it should show.) I have never been much of a single seater fan from that era and find it frustrating that I often have to do some research to find out where some of the cars were manufactured. I keep a separate file block for British so non-British race cars are just filed as not-British. Road cars by country.

    Correct Steve, it was a series for Renault 5 Turbos. "Coupe d'Europe Renault 5 Turbo Elf" Round 5 1982. Apart from the slicks, it looks as though they could very well be roadcars. With a 40 car grid, it was obviously well supported. Once again, I have one car not listed in the programme... Car 48.
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    Back to the more mundane Ellerslie Concours of 1983 and 1984.

    The first time I'd seen a De Joux Mini - and it was in the car park. Like the monthly Caffeine & Classics meet at Smales Farm, those informal meets where anyone can just roll up, are much enjoyed.Name:  183_0222_022 De Joux.JPG
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    1984
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    And the end of the day at Whenuapai 1984, the meeting I missed thanks to family commitments - though it was my birthday.
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    I think this is a Riley, but I have been wrong before. Many, many times.
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    More from Whenuapai - end of the day course runs 1984.


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    Some say there are more Ferraris per capita in NZ than any other country...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ERC View Post
    Correct Steve, it was a series for Renault 5 Turbos. "Coupe d'Europe Renault 5 Turbo Elf" Round 5 1982. Apart from the slicks, it looks as though they could very well be roadcars. With a 40 car grid, it was obviously well supported. Once again, I have one car not listed in the programme... Car 48.
    Thanks Ray, they sure are neat little cars. As far as one-make classes go, thats one of the more interesting I've seen. Was it a French series that had a round in the UK, or a British series?

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    Yes, still at Whenuapai 1984. The car must have run as it has the TACCOC race numbers. Pity I missed it - and the ERA running.
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    On to December 1984 at Pukekohe. Holden, not BMW as per the original label...
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    Ray,-#1652
    thank you for posting such a neat picture of the Sports Sedan Association early days from 1984.
    That banner still exists and we had it at Hampton Downs January last year.
    And the Marina and Graeme still going strong 33 years later........................
    Keep up the great work ,you Historian you.
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    Thanks John. I'm absolutely thrilled that the time and effort taken to scan and publish is appreciated by what appears to be a fairly wide audience of enthusiasts, who pop into this site and this thread on a regular basis. Pity it takes about 2 or 3 minutes to scan each single negative, so a set of 8 often takes over 20 minutes - then the scanner throws a wobbly and doesn't scan one or two in focus, so they have to be redone anyway - or ignored and deleted.

    More to the point and your comment about 'Historian' struck a nerve - though I don't put myself in the same category as Michael!

    After a recent health issue, we attended an 'Advanced Care Planning' session at North Shore Hospital last week (Google it...) and I realised that if I were to keel over tomorrow, there would be a whole heap of stuff for the surviving family members to deal with.

    A fair bit of that would relate to disposing of what I have accumulated over the years, ranging from prewar race programmes to modern race programmes, models - die cast and slot cars - most in mint condition and boxed, car and motorsport memorabilia, 1000's of car magazines, books (some of them now quite valuable), 1,000+ CDs and old LP records, a garage and an office full of stuff. Whilst the wardrobe could be emptied in minutes, to the benefit of a charity shop, I'd hate it if all the other stuff just ended up in a skip!

    Filling in the ACP template - or my version of it, I have to make some serious decisions and there is no time like the present, so if anyone is interested in acquiring the UK 'Classic & Thoroughbred' magazine right from when it started in 1973, to the middle of 2015 for a fair price, (only a few issues are missing, usually thanks to Gordon & Gotch, the local wholesalers stuffing up!) PM me.

    Chaindrive might also be interested in a box of the old UK 'Model Cars' magazines and also 'Miniature Auto' many of which contain car plan drawings and also cover slot cars of the era. I think that a partial magazine clearout has to be the place to start as it occupies the most space. There are also several years' worth of NZ Classic Car magazine (up to the middle of 2015) and the monthly MGCC MaG for MG enthusiasts. The MG MaGs are free to anyone who wants them.

    That will still leave a massive pile of random magazines, local and UK, and even the odd rarity and collectible...

    All magazines are in 5 ream A4 paper boxes.

    I still have the Octane magazine and Classic & Sportscar, plus Practical Classics each month on subscription (though I am almost a year behind reading them, thanks to the annual cruising addiction...), I wouldn't be averse to selling off older issues.
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    +Ray, Thank you for the thought. Your pics are keeping me out of the home for the bewildered!
    Tony (chaindrive)

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    Ray,
    Just remember two things ; # 1, Don't EVER leave us.
    # 2, I will never be able to visit you as I would never make it out of your garage or I'd go broke if I did !
    You have done this site a wonderful deed with all your contributions and may it continue for a long long time.
    Thank you.
    Ken Hyndman

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    Thanks guys. I'm genuinely touched. I'll be battling on with the older stuff for a while yet (still on negative film - more slides to be done) but Laguna Seca is on my new bucket list.

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    Far more interesting than today's tightly regulated almost identical under the bonnet offerings...

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    Those early days of Group A were great weren't they?

    Falcons, Mustangs, Commodores, 635CSIs, Vitesses, Volvos etc. - Ray these photos are like turning on a tap in the memory bank...

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    Totally agree Michael. Pity that MSNZ thought that tier 1 with a tiny grid of almost identical V8's and a plethora of one make/model series was the way to go. Just look at the huge crowds at Pukekohe for the Nissan Mobil and the Benson & Hedges meetings.

    The December 1984 then January 1985 meets.

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    Apologies if any have been on here before, but some may have been re-scanned.

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