Can anyone identify this red car and the date/track... I have an idea who and what it is but Ill wait and see if someone can confirm it... lol
Can anyone identify this red car and the date/track... I have an idea who and what it is but Ill wait and see if someone can confirm it... lol
It looks a bit like the Graham McRae built Masserari, but a bit hard to tell from that angle and the colour is the wrong shade, and no yellow nose band.
Thats what I was thinking too.
The Masserari was my first thought, the helmets aren't period, and the number on the side is a lot later than when the car would have run, It does look like an airfield course.
Bruce.
yes I believe you are correct. It is the masserrari most probably at Wigram and Im told that is Graham McRae in the car. But that is from a friend of the photographer who now has the photo and cant confirm it. The colour is redder in the photo but the scanner added a darker shade.
Definitely the Masarrari, and if that's Tony Herbert's Ginetta G4 alongside it won't be a period shot
Whenuapai wet Classic meeting ,but I'm scratching my head for the date at the momentOriginally Posted by David McKinney
January 1997 ?
I first saw this car when it was at Mike Roberts panel shop in the late ninties when owner Ross Ford was getting some alloy tin work done on it. I was in awe of the construction. Runs a Humber motor doesnt it?
I swa a shot of the car in raw alloy somewhere when McRae was building it.
Gordon Burr?
Background screamed Whenuapai as soon as the picture appeared. 1997 Wings & Wheels programme has it as the 'Maserrari 220S' driven by Ross Ford but with number 59. Can't help thinking I've been through this discussion before. Did he have No. 220 at another Classic meeting a week or two earlier?
Here's something from 1998 when it was dry - looks nice but only a replica.
"Only?"
I'd have thought a Graham McRae built replica had a provenance all of its own and second to none.
The 250F replica had nothing to do with Graham McRae. I think Stu posted the photo in reference to the Whenuapai Classic meeting.
Here is the Maserarrai at the Domain Hill Climb.
Yes. "Only" only referred to the 250F replica which may have had some genuine spare parts in it but no genuine original identity.The 250F replica had nothing to do with Graham McRae. I think Stu posted the photo in reference to the Whenuapai Classic meeting.
Here is the Maserarrai at the Domain Hill Climb.
I don't know all the later history of the Maserrari, but I thought it was a beautiful car from whenever I first saw it (1960ish I guess).
It's very much after the style of mid-1950 Maserati sports-racers and the OSCAs built by the remaining two Maserati brothers.
Assuming that's Abba Kogan's car, it was one of the first Cameron Millar cars, so would have been pretty much all Maserati apart from chassis and body
It got its name because, during construction, some of McRae's friends thought it looked like a Maserati, and others like a FerrariI don't know all the later history of the Maserrari, but I thought it was a beautiful car from whenever I first saw it (1960ish I guess).
It's very much after the style of mid-1950 Maserati sports-racers and the OSCAs built by the remaining two Maserati brothers.
I really must go through programmes etc from its first appearance (February 1961) to see how it should be spelt. I'm fairly sure I decided back in the day it should be 'Masarrari', but there were numerous other spellings. McRae himself was asked a couple of years ago for a definitive ruling and didn't know...
OK - here we go. First appearance was April 1961, not February
Primary source (ie, contemporary) references to first appearances
(up to end of 1962 only)
What I have always believed to be the correct version highlighted in bold
1/4/61 Palmer Head hillclimb
Evening Post: Austin Special
Dominion: Masararri
8/4/61 Houghton Bay hillcimb
WCC Bulletin: Masarrari (twice)
15/4/61 Levin
Evening Post preview: “Masararri, not to be confused with Masaratti”
Programme: as in previous post
WCC Bulletin: Masarrari
07/04/62 Houghton Bay hillclimb
Evening Post: Maseratti
WCC Bulletin: Masarrari, Massarrari, Maserarri, Maserrarri
27/7/62 WCC Levin sprint
Evening Post: Masarrari
WCC Bulletin: Masarrari
24/11/62 Levin
Programme: Maserati (three times)
Auckland Star Sports: Maserarri
Dominion: Masararri once, Masarrari once
Evening Post: Masarrari
15/12/62 Ohakea
Programme: late entry – not listed
Evening Post: Masarrari
29/12/62 Mount Maunganui
Programme: Masararri (four times)
I know it keeps all you pedants happy. But does it really matter we all know it is the same car. Must have got out of bed on the wrong side.
Sorry I managed to totally misread that.
15th April 1961 Levin, it is listed as a Maserari 220s.
What's your source for that?
The programme's list of entries calls it a Masararri 220S
In the individual races it's listed four times as a Masararri and three times as a Maserarri
When I get a mo' I'll dig out earlier references to it
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