Seems like everyone is too shy to start a thread for these meetings, I am doing a starve here for reliable info....Paul Faheys Escort made an appearance & I found a couple of videos on youtube...this was one that had a bit of interest for me anyway.. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rI2La8NG7w
This was Classic Muscle Cars in the program, I didn't see one racing, so was not sure just what I was watching?
Roger
They are certainly not modern muscle cars.
I think that this where Dale Steve and Tony have it right, the Skope Classic is certainally not that, there was good racing in some classes, but mis-matched fields, a modern GT3 Porker, a classic muscle car, I think not, I know thats it hard to get a full field, but I think, organizers just have to say NO to some, Skope, IMHO fails to address, their interest is full grids of sort look like a classic car, as its their biggest cash cow of the year.The best grid at the meeting was the Formula Juniors, and I guess it will be a while before we see them again.
Roger
Originally Posted by Racer Rog
Yeah i know aht you are saying, however I looked at it from a different view.
Full grids of different cars and a "run what you brung" type format was good to watch. i know what you say about the porsche , but to me the entertainment was further back down the feild
We flew down for the 3 days and il go again next year
Can I assume you have both made your feelings known to the Canterbury Car Club & Skope Industries, wonder what Guy Stewarts reaction might be, after all it is his 'porker' and skope do sponsor the meet..
Just in case any others wish to see pics rather than debate what constitutes a Classic/Modern muscle car [ can they be one & the other ? ]...start your own thread to debate that!!!
http://www.hellophoto.co.nz/showthre...3-(Motorsport)
No objection to the porsche at all, i think i should have said that it did not detract from any of the races.Can I assume you have both made your feelings known to the Canterbury Car Club & Skope Industries, wonder what Guy Stewarts reaction might be, after all it is his 'porker' and skope do sponsor the meet..
Just in case any others wish to see pics rather than debate what constitutes a Classic/Modern muscle car [ can they be one & the other ? ]...start your own thread to debate that!!!
http://www.hellophoto.co.nz/showthre...3-(Motorsport)
nothing wrong with a bit of horse power,
Any news from the man in the Lotus 7 what rolled over the back?
Last edited by rogered; 02-06-2013 at 08:32 PM.
Racer Rog, rogered, you're both rite but what i see here is a modern version of an "All Comers" class with the odd classic chucked in so definatly not Historic/Classic motor racing(though i do luv the victor)!! it does make for good entertainment which i guess the Skope organisers have acheived but what it doesn't do is give the "racer" incentive hence why i wasn't there as this is another group/class i'd prefer to watch than be in. Still, like me one doesn't have to enter if they don't like it and as they "had" competitiors they have a group and that means a race.(I did recieve one e-mail last week who thought he was totally out classed in this group)
What i'd like to see "Skope" do is support at there event a more historic saloon group based on the MSNZ T&C/HMC rules, if only 6 legal cars turned out first time it doesn't matter as like HMC they will find it will build from there, unless the track promotor supports a class using a "standardised" set of rules it will go nowhere. But i guess to them its more work so probably will never happen.
As for the Skope event itself i still think its fantastic and will one day make the trip down again
Dale M
You also have to realise that the south island doesn't have the concentrated population base that the north island has, and the bottom line is as Jac Mac is interested in, is that it was primarally a classic car meet with the odd mismatch thrown in.
Apparently the Lotus 7 driver was not badly injured as was the Ralt driver, only superficial injuries, unlike the guy at the Oxford speedway the same day who was badly injured.
Lets get back to giving Jack what he asked for in this thread, Info of the Skope meeting, also more to come from Timaru this coming weekend before Teratonga, in Jacks patch.
Brilliant thread Jac. I hope you don't mind, I embedded that video in your opening post. I too would love to see some more photos. The Southern Festival of Speed is certainly a brilliant series of events.
Watching that vid, I see a few cool old OSCA cars in there, including your old MkII Cortina, plus the Alex Dickie Victor, and the Don Grindley RX7 Buick. I'd have expected to see Mike Eden in there too?
Yep. Michael Eden was there, can't remember whether he was in that race or not.
The SKOPE is a major successful meeting for the CCC. There were good crowds, plenty of entrants and generally good racing. It just seems to get bigger and better every year.
Lets face it, the CCC has a massive investment and an infrastructure which has to be serviced, by amongst other things, running profitable race meetings. They are competing with numerous other ventures for the discretionary entertainment dollars of the spectators, whom it would appear stamp their seal of approval on this meeting. So do the drivers, or they wouldn't be there. Dale for instance opted out and that is his choice, but far more opted in. The spectators can do the same thing.
Generally these spectators don't care about the semantics of the specifications etc in a car. Or whether it's the genuine article, or a dead nuts replica or merely a "look-a-like". To them an Escort is an Escort is an Escort. And they are paying the money to get through the gate.
I think some people get too pedantic about what should and shouldn't be raced at a meeting such as the SKOPE, the important thing is to put on good racing with varied fields which the paying public will enjoy. Get too picky about what can be raced and you will invariably have smaller grids, there will be less to interest the spectators, and so the following year, for that reason, some will spend their money elsewhere. Then you are on the slippery slide.... Less gate takings, less entry fees, similar overheads.... Anyone can see where thats going....
For what its worth, for SFOS, the SKOPE is more picky about what you can race than Teretonga is, and maybe Levels as well.
I'm sure if a good field of, shall we say, "pure" classic/historic cars were available they would find the organisers would put on a separate race for them. And over the years that has happened, for instance with the Formula Libre single seater class which now has the F5000's as a separate race and of course this year also the FJ's had their own race. Also if I remember correctly, in the past the Historic Touring Cars have had their own races too.
The thing is to get out there and when you have the numbers, canvas for a separate race. This may mean some other race has to be axed, so it may come down to which race would provide the most entertainment...And that is the bottom line, the meeting must be entertaining and the spectators have to want to come back the following year.
Of course so do the drivers, but that doesn't seem to be much of a problem, even in these cash strapped times when other current/modern classes are struggling.....
Last edited by Russ Noble; 02-08-2013 at 07:02 AM.
Well said Russ. Shame about the knockers, this is not the place for negativity. Use the Rennsport races today at Levels as an example, a staggered start for the BMW E30s who have their own race amongst themselves and the very excellent "new" commentators tell the crowd that North Island E30 racers number approx 90 and maybe we shall see more down here in future, in the meantime everyone having a good time. 25 races a day, and the best fields that have fronted in any motorsport event down this way for a long time. International entrants returning, associated businesses, car clubs and track "operators" all in the black, Shell Sport category having a rebirth, sun-shining, no major incidents, program running to schedule, after match dinner over-soldout, oh and did I mention everyone having a good time? So bring on the photos and videos that this thread was initiated for so I can continue to enjoy my day.
Another great day of racing at Levels on Sunday, bloody hot temp at the track was 33 degrees, but the drivers coped very well in the heat, Formula Junior racing really good and a delight to watch, the commentators were very good, adding local flavour to banter, and very little damage to vehicles GREAT Saturday night function, very good food and music, quit a few threw the zimmer frames away and were seen dancing.
Roger
Thats great Roger! I'd really love to see some photos from either (or both) Ruapuna or Timaru.
Steve I was that busy running around I only took two photos and the battery in the camera is flat so have not put it on the laptop yet but hope to get that done tonight so will post them then, Craig Pidgeon told me last night that he had posted some video on U-Tube of some in cat footage, which I am told is very good, There seemed to be quite a few with cameras in their cars so here's hoping they will post here as well, all the FJ boys from Auckland will no doubt add a lot here as well, the circuit there is well suited to these cars, and we have started the planing for next year already, the band is booked!, I certainaly thank all the guys who came down from the North Island, quite a few make the trip every year now, and there is a lot who stay at the circuit and a fine old time is had by all, with some great feeds cooked up at an evening with a few fantas, but not to the excesses of the old days, as we are all to old to miss a day above the ground now.
Roger
Some Photos from Skope and ENZED Classic at levels Photos did come through will have another go, must be doing something wrong....again!!!
Last edited by Racer Rog; 02-14-2013 at 03:57 AM. Reason: Cock up
Did anyone get any photos from Ruapuna or Levels of the Shellsport cars. I have seen a couple of the Datsuns but nothing else as yet.
Unfortinually there was only about 3 real cars in the grid at Levels, the rest were ring in's to try and fill a field, they need to follow the lead of HMC in their approach to the class, stick to what the real rules were and hold true to them, this is not the case at the moment, there is certainally the potential for the group to grow
motor sport is dangerous.............a sad day for all involved ..........two F50000 race cars have crashed a teretonga race track during practice at approx 4.15 the two cars contacted the tyre wall at high speed one driver was transported the the local hospital in a very serious condition ............
Yes he is a well known South Island driver, I certainally hope that he's survives his injuries, and hope the prayers of many Gods are with him
Roger
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