Jim, I'm far too busy correcting my own spelling mistakes to be worrying about yours. I don't care how many times you read what you've written before pushing the reply button, there will always be words missed, or wrong spelling, or comas and full stops missed out. Really you should get someone to proof read it for you, but who is going to do that. As Steve said, we all make mistakes with grammar..... Now, completely changing the subject Jim, I really must take issue with you about your recent postings on this thread. It is NO use going back to the 'good old days', and WERE they that good anyway, about how motorsport used to be. Those days are gone forever. We have to move on, yes there have been mistakes, and if we can influence how things are done today and in the future by lobbying or other means, well so be it. But it is no use getting an ulcer over it all. You had your fun way back when, just like the guys today are having their fun now, and the next generation will have fun in their own way. As I see it, us OLD guys, yes, you and me Jim, would be far better off joining in VCC events. After the Roycroft Trophy weekend, I am more convinced of than ever. The members, well a lot of them, are more our age..... you wont find the 15 year old hotshots that are racing today, because they would find what we like deadly dull. You have your memories, and I have mine, and on a forum like this it is good to share. Some of our tales of derring-do spun here on Y & Y by Bob, Bry, thunder 427 etc, make great reading, and we can relive those times simply by telling the 'new-boys', how it used to be. Some of them of course couldn't care less about the old days, but I like to think that chaps that browse this forum have an interest in the history of motor racing in NZ, and by crikey, hasn't there been a wealth of stuff posted on these pages, which might have been lost forever if Steve hadn't started RS. Now Jim, after you have read this, two or three times hopefully, to get right meaning, you can sit down with a nice glass of rum and think about what I have said. And I can guarantee there will be some spelling mistakes........ Henry Ford said something interesting, which sort of applys to how the modern generation think...........'History is more or less bunk. It's tradition. We don't want tradition, we want to live in the present, and the only History that is worth a tinkers damn, is the history that we make today'....... I know thats not the way you and I think, but thats OK, I'm quite happy just tooling along, glad that I was born when I was.