Bob, when you say you don't go to motoracing these days, I presume you mean 'modern' motoracing. I'm sure I saw you at the festival back in January, in fact I KNOW I did......you gave me some good advice, and you have business dealing with motoracing. It is a pointless exercise blokes on here complaining about racing as it is today. We all know it's crap, but no one is forcing you to go. Perhaps that is why 'classic' racing has taken off the way it has, but don't hold your breath on that one either. As Dale says, he has to keep moving on from the 'hot-shot' boys, usually with big check-books, because of the probability of damage. But this has always been the case......look at Go-karts.....started out with lawn-mower motors and wheel-barrow wheels, now they look like a formula one car. In a sport like ours it is natural that drivers and builders want to push the boundaries. I remember in the mid eighties when classic racing was quite new, someone turned up at Taupo with a hot car, then what do you know, next meeting 3 or 4 turn up with hotter cars, and so the dreadful spiral started. Then someone puts the brakes on, usually MSNZ, and we all start from scratch again. I suspect Bob, that given the opportunity, you would hop into a nice Anglia and have a go again, and as you have nothing to prove on the track, would enjoy the ride. And as we are talking safety on this thread, you MAY have decided to stop racing because of your age, your health, or whatever, or maybe you just ran out of money like the rest of us, but you looked a happy chappie at the festival doing what you do well...talking about the 'good old days'.