Now dont be sorry I agree with most of the concerns raised on here,but it is a bit like NZ today ,I went to school in the 40s and every day we were taught our times table and NZ history some how the 2nd race are now the 1st race and having a ball with our money,so what show have we got of changing manz when they only are getting peanuts,this is of topic so I will not mention it ,I would love to hear more stories of the old days racing and hillclimbs,some how it makes me a happer chap ,I have been imformed a lot or most of you dont like the sh?T I put on, but I get a chuckle sometimes hours later and no rum needed!!