I am not sure why there is a need to have a seperate body for Classic and Historic Racing. We already have one, MSNZ. It is just that it dosent work properly for C&HR.MSNZ is there to administer ALL facets of Motorsport, not just the top teir. C&HR needs to decide what it is that they require to be changed within MSNZ, how this can be acheived, and then set about doing it. To this end MSNZ (as our administrative body) could set out to identify competitors in C&HR, and then formulate a questionaire that can be E Mailed to these competitors for their opinions and views. It is then up to those competitors to respond. Perhaps the setting up of a stronger C&HR presence within MSNZ would also help get better representaion and a fairer slice of the pie. MSNZ shouldnt be viewed as an autonomous body, it is there to serve its members, which it dosent seem to be doing in the case of C&HR and therefore needs changes made. Unfortunately there are those who are competitors who just want to compete, and then there are those who are politicians and who like to tell us how and when we are allowed to compete.