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Thread: Photos: The Gerard Richards Collection - Part 1

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    Jack Nazer at Paritutu 1965

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Holmes View Post
    Another from Gerards Jack Inwood collection, showing Jack Nazer at Paritutu, New Plymouth. The photo is dated November 1965, but my thoughts are that it would be a year later than this.

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    I agree with you Steve, this is the logical thought. But when I wrote a story on Jack Nazer's career a few years ago, I remember him telling me that he prepared his fast back Anglia for the 1965-66 season but only ran the Paritutu meeting in Nov 1965. Funds apparently did not allow him to contest any other meetings that season. The car is in almost the same colours and logos as it appeared the following season when he was a major contender for the last Allcomer's title in 1966-67. He finished second to Robbie Francevic's Custaxie and ahead of Paul Fahey's Shelby Mustang in Group 2 spec that season who finished third.

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by GPBK View Post
    To the best of my knowledge the Moly Slip Team were white with over the roof stripes but did not have side stripes. This Anglia is blue with the side stripe. Clearly Mr Fistonic has an extensive and well regarded library of reference material and Mr McKinney may have impeccable credentials but I'm afraid gentlemen on this one at least you are "backing" the wrong horse.
    I do not know the answer, but, look at the seating position and stance and it looks very Mr Phillips like.
    If Milan has the programme, then that must surely be the answer.

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Grimwood View Post
    I do not know the answer, but, look at the seating position and stance and it looks very Mr Phillips like.
    If Milan has the programme, then that must surely be the answer.
    I think you've hit the nail squarely on the head with "If Milan has the programme". Even if we presume that there has never been a mistake made in the printing of a programme ever, can I suggest that the gentleman has presumed a time frame and found a programme that fits a photo but not necessarily that photo. He may be as much as a year out. That photo of the Anglia is quite likely from early 1966. I might add that I think the picture of Paul Fahey in the Lotus Anglia taken at Paritutu is most likely 1966 which may strengthen the suggestion that the Nazer photo could be 1966 as well but on that I'm not as sure.

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    GPBK- you are correct when you say programs may be suspect. In April 1970 Rod Coppins was entered as 241, yet pics of that meeting show 141
    Last edited by John McKechnie; 12-08-2012 at 07:31 PM.

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard Richards View Post
    I agree with you Steve, this is the logical thought. But when I wrote a story on Jack Nazer's career a few years ago, I remember him telling me that he prepared his fast back Anglia for the 1965-66 season but only ran the Paritutu meeting in Nov 1965. Funds apparently did not allow him to contest any other meetings that season. The car is in almost the same colours and logos as it appeared the following season when he was a major contender for the last Allcomer's title in 1966-67. He finished second to Robbie Francevic's Custaxie and ahead of Paul Fahey's Shelby Mustang in Group 2 spec that season who finished third.
    Thanks Gerard. Thats potentially a very interesting fact, if this photo is in fact taken in November 1965. Both the Dave Simpson and Paul Fahey Lotus Anglia's appeared at the 1966 NZIGP meeting in January 1966 with fastback roof attachments fitted. Its thought this was the first time such fastback sections appeared on the Anglias and there has been much discussion over how there was such a coincidence that these two rivals suddenly came up with the same idea and actioned it at the same time. If Nazer actually preceded them with the fastback roof, this would explain where they got the idea from!

  6. #166
    No sorry guys ,Jacks restyled Anglia definitely first appeared Labour weekend 1966 ,the NSCC had their first meeting on the short club circuit that weekend and Jack turned up in it ,I was unlucky enough to destroy my engine that same day ,I had intended to go to Paritutu and race on the Monday of the weekend but that was not possible ,Jack had some misfiring issues and seeing as we were out for the day and the weekend I loaned my fuel pump and distributor to Bill Norrish who used to look after Jacks car for the weekend. The rounded fronts and the fast back were the season before , ( Steve I will email you the race report as I can't post it )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Holmes View Post
    Another from Gerards Jack Inwood collection, showing Jack Nazer at Paritutu, New Plymouth. The photo is dated November 1965, but my thoughts are that it would be a year later than this.

    http://www.theroaringseason.com/show...g-footage-1965
    The footage that bry3500 found from the '65 race meeting shows a sports car carrying no.38 (18sec into the video).
    Milan's final post lists all the Anglias drivers in the programme, with no Jack Nazer.

    I have a copy of the '66 race programme and again there's no Jack Nazer and car no.38 is Mike Burch - Ecurie Burg Standard Ten.

    Jack could have been a late entry at either race meeting, but would they have given him a race number that had already been assigned?

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    Rule one never believe the race programs as being gospel,I know that I am not even in the programs for some meetings that I went to and I was not a late entry ,also they are not always correct ,I have one from a Levin meeting when I raced two different cars on the same day ,my name is spelt two different ways and they have me coming from two different places,yet I sent both the entries in together,then there were the times I drove somebody elses car and no records ever exist of that 40 odd years later

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob homewood View Post
    Rule one never believe the race programs as being gospel,
    I wasn't really doubting you Bob, after all there's photo to prove he was there in car no.38.

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    No problems Powder I didn't really mean it to sound like that ,just I have been caught out so many times with programs ,I have been I'D ing a lot of photos and I just try to get as many written press references and ask as many people as I can ,programs are a guide but not always right ,none of our memories are that good after all the years

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    Bob, the only reason the minds are slowing a bit, is all thats jammed in to them over the years, just as well we all lead quite lives.

    Yep programmes, I think everyone had same over years.
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    As I keep telling my kids, my memory is not slipping. My brain is like a computer, the problem is that the hard drive is full.

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    Paritutu Labour Day 1966 would have been the last appearance of Paul Fahey in his fast back Anglia,it want to Ward and Coppins very soon after that day ,also it was the first National appearance of Jack in the "Yellow Submarine " when he got it sorted later in the day he was considerably quicker than Fahey ,the very first NSCC club circuit meeting I mentioned was on the Saturday ,Paritutu was on Labour day of the same weekend ,its probably remembered better by the Sixties generation as being the weekend of the valiant bid by Radio Hauraki to escape to freedom

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    OK, I posted the Anglia photo above to Bob Homewood, as he was closely involved with many of these cars at the time, and I really value his opinion. He managed to find the below photo from a magazine article. He scanned both the article, then the car separately. The text in the article is too small to read, so Bob will have another attempt when he gets the chance, but below is what Bob emailed me about the car.

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    "Here is the race report for New Plymouth Labour weekend 1966 ,it answers more than a couple of questions ,this would have been Faheys last run in the Anglia as Ward and Coppins owned it very shortly after in fact its possible it changed hands at the end of that weekend. The Anglia in question that we believe is the same one in the photo is being driven by my old mate Graham Park ,yes the same man of later Marina V8 fame the one in the photo there with Barry Phillips in the Lotus Cortina ,I believe that is a couple of months possibly after the photo you sent me as it has the headlight covers and also a front bumper that covers the "A "frame brackets ,now I will have to ask Graham sometime where he got that Anglia from ,there is a possibility that it could have been from Barry Phillips ? ,if so that Anglia went from Ken Richardson ,another of my old mates ,to Barry and the possibly to Graham Park Terry Warringtons car as David McKinney said raced in Group 2 and as such had to have full bumpers etc ,it was a lot tidier car than the one in your photo in addition from memory Terry drove his car to the meetings so it had no "A " frame brackets ,I think that might have been Terry who passed away last week Hope this all makes sense to you ,you can knock it all together in conjunction with the NSCC scan I sent you should put it all in context ,I will try to ask both Barry and Graham at some time if the Anglia did indeed go down the final bit of the path I have suggested"

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    Hard to see on that photo but I believe it reads Omokoroa Motors " For Your Shell Service" on the Anglia door. It is indeed the ex Barry Phillips Anglia as pictured earlier or at the very least the same number plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GPBK View Post
    Hard to see on that photo but I believe it reads Omokoroa Motors " For Your Shell Service" on the Anglia door. It is indeed the ex Barry Phillips Anglia as pictured earlier or at the very least the same number plate.
    And without the side flash which you pointed out in the "other" photo

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    Yes that's how I read what I can of the sign writing as well and in both photos the cars I believe have a Shell Sticker on the rear window

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    And the Anglia in the original photo had three central stripes.

    The 1965 race that Warrington ran with number 101 was not Group 2 - it was for Modified Production Saloons.

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    I have to say this is quite amusing and not at all what I expected when I simply posted what I knew to be correct. When I first answered the question on the Anglia I said it's Barry Phillips pre Lotus Cortina. The photo above later on in 1966 shows the new owner with some cosmetic changes ( as you do ) being passed by the previous owner in his Lotus. No great mystery. I understand I'm the 'new kid on the block' here so by all means feel free to doubt me but Mr Homewood carries a great deal of respect on this forum and I share that respect of him. Keep watching for his posts eventually he will confirm all I have said. I don't know much but on this I'm a 100%.
    Last edited by GPBK; 12-08-2012 at 05:32 AM.

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    I still get a thrill when I look at these old programs looking at the list of gladiators and their behemoths.
    If there is some inacuracy that is the romance that is history.
    These threads can always change what we have understood to be correct .
    I am astounded at how much information people have, and want to share.
    Any body know how Barry Phillips and his son are getting on with the resto of his Mini?

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