Trusty Rusty TREKKA

[John McKechnie]

Hi Gerald,
Yeah , have had several bullets from the thread pirates.
In 1936 Soviets had a зис-101 (ZIS-101).
There is a chap in Cambridge-NZ-who has a 1936 Reo which is identical.
No prizes for guessing who copied who.
Later there was a ZIS-110 which was an exact copy of the 39-41 Packard.
In USA Packard lost the dies and presses for this model when they started production after the war, and is is known that the Russians got them all to make these cars.
I had a 1936 Packard 120 B and when I showed the older people in Russia and Ukraine pictures of it they wanted to know how the KGB/GPU cars came to NZ.These were the cars that took people away at 4am to Lyubanka never to be seen again. More Packard models there.
Anyway, my story- a customer of mine in the 60s was offered 15 sheep at a Tauranga A& P show.He had no way of getting them home. There was a 1928 Packard tourer there-with jump seats in the back - which was almost a give away price.He put the sheep in the back and drove to Auckland. Crossing the ranges , he stopped for gas. The hood was up and all side windows were in place.The gas man asked what he had in the back.15 sheep.Rubbish, you can have the gas for nothing if you have 15 sheep in the back seat area of your car.
He opened the door , showed the man the sheep and had a full tank of gas for nothing.
40 years later the car still stank.
So, how many bullets will I get now or have I included enough communist cars to survive?

[Shoreboy57]

Gerald - apologies. This post has meandered a trifle, but we can celebrate 100 eclectic posts now

Back to Russians. -You might be interested in the ZIL-112 as it was a real Russian sports car. ZIL (Zavod Imeni Likhacheva) produced this between 1960 and 1962. Apparently the 112S initiated a number of firsts for cars produced in the Soviet Union such as controlled slip differential, disc brakes, radial-ply tires etc. It is powered by a 5980 cc V8 from the ZIL-111 equipped with four K-85 carburetors giving 230 hp and a top speed of 260 km/h (162 mph). It could do 0–100 km/h in 9 seconds. The total weight was 1,330 kg (2,932 lb). Steering and front suspension came from the GAZ M21 Volga. In the rear, it used De Dion suspension with triangular levers.

Between 1963 and 1965 the car set five all-Soviet Union records in the racetracks. I'm suspecting it was probably a handful

There's a pic on "Soviet cars we've newer seen http://englishrussia.com/2007/08/05/...ve-never-seen/

Altho' John has probably seen some of these given his encyclopedic knowledge of that country

[AMCO72]

That thread is outrageous........the comments are hilarious. Some poor bugger just wanted information, NOT biased political rantings.
Oh dear........quote....'the Lada is the BEST car ever made'...mmmmmmmmm. Well black is a lovely colour until you have seen red, blue, green...........

What puzzles me is......why cant/couldnt the soviets make a GOOD car. With all their wealth in mineral deposits etc, surley there was someone who could design something interesting. I suppose it is all about Government control......no private enterprise.

Also, think of the TU144.......yes it was a copy of the Concorde........the Concordski, despite strong denials. I tell you what though, take a look at some youtube videos of the TU144 taking off, and just check-out how those 32 wheels fold up into the aircraft.....incredible. Of course they didnt know about disc-brakes, and the size of the drums on the Concordski are like 44 gallon drums!!!!!!

Now the thread pirates are going to jump on me.

[John McKechnie]

I have a stamp collection which features all Russian cars , trucks buses from 1909-1990.
They learnt from Concorde, after it crashed they didnt build another one.
Yes a very similar copy.

[Shoreboy57]

The ZIL-112S (aka Russian Ferrari)

[markson]

They built race cars as well Markson

[Shoreboy57]

This could have been pretty exciting

[John McKechnie]

Russian meaning of зарулем -behind the wheel

[John McKechnie]

Russian meaning of зарулем -behind the wheel
Shoreboy- where did you get the pic post 105-ZIL-112S. Anymore details on it?
Markson- what are the details of these racing cars please?
Saw a Soviet movie -1973- with a Russian 1958 Corvette V8 roadster set in Moscow.

[Powder]

This could have been pretty exciting

Does anyone know what car No.10 is?
It looks like the body slipped in the jig when they were welding the rear guards on.
I guess we can't be too critical. They have more spectators in the middle of winter than was at the NZ Grand Prix 2 weeks ago.

[AMCO72]

With the number 55 on it, number 10 could be the Doyle Dickie Anglia!!!!!

'Comrade, you will watch the Motorace or you will carted off to Lyabanka in the Packard'!!!!!!!!!

[markson]

John Google Skoda museum, very interesting .Markson

[John McKechnie]

Tovarich Gerald- if you scratch the paint on the car, you, your mother, father, wife, children, cousins, brothers, sisters and all their family get a one way ticket to Magadan to dig for gold.
All will be singing- Magadan, Magadan, what a wonderful place,
Winter 52 weeks of the year, summer the rest...
Guess what the punishment is for spinning on the first corner......

[John McKechnie]

Markson- checked the Muzeum , there are a lot of beautiful and graceful cars. Did not see any utilitarian Trekkas there. Would absolutely be out of place there. Definitely say there are a lot of Skodas on show here I would be proud to own and be seen driving.

[Kiwiboss]

You guys are all friggen NUTS, nuts, nuts, nuts, LOL, lol. Though i luv Powders swipe at the NZ Grand Prix, how true he is, LOL

PS: I wonder what Historic racing in Russia is like today, Hmmmmmmm Comrade John will know for sure!!!

I gotta go, LOL

Dale(LOL)M

[Kiwiboss]

You guys are all friggen NUTS, nuts, nuts, nuts, LOL, lol. Though i luv Powders swipe at the NZ Grand Prix, how true he is, LOL

PS: I wonder what Historic racing in Russia is like today, Hmmmmmmm Comrade John will know for sure!!!

I gotta go, LOL

Dale(LOL)M

[John McKechnie]

Dale , if you really want to see HMC in Russia-http://englishrussia.com/2009/03/26/soviet-racing

[Bruce302]

Comrade McKechnievich's new Historic Muscle car.

[Kiwiboss]

Comrade McKechnievich's new Historic Muscle car.

Looks like "non HMC legal" japanese mirrors on the front fenders, hmmm can't have that, they gotta GO, LOL

Dale M

[AMCO72]

Dale, if we are all so bloody nuts, as you keep pointing out, there are a heck of a lot of others looking at the roaring season who are nuts as well........look at the number of hits the Trusty Rusty Trekka site has had in such a short time.

This site has dipped into an area that otherwise might never have seen the light of day, well not amonst the true blue Historic racing brigade. And we are lucky that we have Comrade John who has had first hand knowledge of these things, to point us in the right direction.

However I have grave fears for Johns safety as he may get a visit from an HMC enthusiast at 4am in the morning and be transported to Stewart Island!!!!!!

And there is no LOL after that.