John to be fair , lots had issues with pad & shoe material , plus cheap discs , some not mechanically minded , BUT once they were on top of the problem they were away , I would go to the annual committee meetings & have a good answer to a lot of issues but got slammed down by the ones with the loudest head & the bigger egos , so once again I slipped out the back door & thought Mmmmm all to hard bye .... left them 3 times and went back with an other car each time as the racing was fun , just had to wear the s..t in silence ..