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    Thanks Roger. Might well make it this time!


    Well, according to Andy Greenslade, the Jaguar rear lights are original...
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    New owner... Gary joining other ERC stalwarts by acquiring a Formula Junior to add to their saloons/GTs.
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    Van Diemen
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    Chris Fraser - Lola
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    Grant Kern's very quick "Cream Cracker".
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    Keith's Chevette had an oil pump issue and didn't race.
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    Just about the only public viewing spot, clear of catch fencing, is from the footbridge platform. The earlier pics were taken from the first hairpin and only possible if wearing a media tabard. The original, National track has ample viewing options for paying spectators, but not the International loop (or Club track).
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    Rooting through the old filing cabinet and found a folder of various attempts at painting from my youth. Painted on card and looking a bit grubby, (don't use blu-tak) but as it is OK to post faded, out of focus, distant photographs out of historical interest, I thought I may as well show these.

    Needless to say, whilst most 20 year olds in NZ would have been hooning around in their old cars, chasing (and probably catching) nubile young maidens, lubricating the tonsils with Lion Red or DB Brown, some of us were somewhat cash strapped and unable to afford such things, so evenings were spent at home with the record player playing jazz, (whilst everyone else had graduated to the Liverpool sound), reading Motorsport and Miniature Auto from cover to cover and painting.


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    John Storr might like this one...
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    Stunning,thanks for putting those up .A real talent.

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    Great paintings Ray you could have been a Michael Turner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfart View Post
    Great paintings Ray you could have been a Michael Turner
    My hero Rhys! As with many, I graduated to painting the cars OK, but the backgrounds I really struggle with.

    I first came across his work when he did paintings for the Eagle Comic. I collected and saved a load of them, but that vindictive ex-wife of mine managed to lose much of my memorabilia, including the scrap book, those prints, photographs and those spiral bound Jaguar catalogues. Thank goodness I had the presence of mind to bring all my negatives and slides with me with my initial box of personal possessions.

    Michael Turner's backgrounds are just amazing. My wife bought me the limited edition Michael Turner set of BRM prints, which I really treasure. I can copy his stuff fairly well, but that is not the same! Which reminds me, I still have a couple to do for Tony Roberts...

    Funnily enough, I learned basic perspective drawing as an 8 year old, from an old encyclopaedia, but it was Michael Turner's excellent book "Drawing and Painting Racing Cars" that explained the mechanics of drawing an undulating road. Multiple Vanishing Points. That was an Eureka moment. Fantastic book anyway and crammed with examples of his work.

    I also have a Bruce McLaren autographed Michael Turner print which I should really frame properly.


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    Hidden talents that you have kept from us. They are brilliant ! More please Ray.

    All the best for the festive season.

    Cheers
    Bruce

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    Wow Ray. Very very impressive paintings. I'm envious of your talent. I tried my hand at drawing a few years ago at night classes [remember those] but unfortunately didn't have the patience required.

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    I also have a Bruce McLaren autographed Michael Turner print which I should really frame properly. said ERC

    You certainly should!

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    I thought I'd posted painting pics before, but it must have been a fair time ago.

    Copy of a Michael Turner pic done whilst on a Prison Service residential training course about December 1968, during the evenings in. Most of the others were out getting drunk and/or chasing the Yorkshire lasses around Wakefield. That was the last painting I did until I did one for the Leisuretime Series sponsor, Geoff Bonham, about 1999.


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    A couple of more recent ones - intended as part of set of greetings cards. The Chris Fraser Morgan pic I had turned into sample cards and a single proof test print of Mike Peterson's TR6. I may try and visit the Morgan factory next year and will take a few of the cards with me.

    These two originals are hanging in our Hampton Downs apartment - or were when I last popped in. The only ones I have. All others done in recent times were commissions, but three were gifts. Two to Geoff Bonham of Leisuretime (the second was the first time in my life I'd ever painted a portrait - told him that he was booked in for plastic surgery to look like the painting...) and one to Derek Prior.

    I'm no Don Packwood - sadly. Another talented artist, particularly line drawing, is "Racing" Ray Williams' elder brother, Dennis.

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    I probably rushed the Whangarei one and should have spent more time on the background. Wheels are still the toughest part to draw - and paint. Must try harder.
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    As mentioned above, the Michael Turner copy was done in 1968 and the next time I lifted the paint brushes was 1999. That led to a commission for Dave Mallin's birthday.


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    The Geoff Bonham pic was to celebrate 10 years of involvement in the ERC Series by a generous sponsor. Doing a portrait for the first time was somewhat daunting...
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    As an aside, the green MGB run by Geoff eventually found itself with the late AES sponsor, Steve Harris. At a lower level of motorsport, quite an historically significant car. More about that another day.
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    Back to reality!


    Another one Ken might like to 'borrow'. Chris Atkinson looking on?
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    I need help with the make of this... Looks as though it could be another Lola?
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    ...and this. Michael did tell me on the day, but my memory isn't what it was. And my memory isn't what it was.
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    The Lola SuperVee with the For sale on could be Peter Benbrooks.

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    I'm not sure how much effect the Vulcan style rear under tray has on a Mini.
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    The Aussie Racers/Star Cars don't look out of place sharing the track with the Minis, but there was a fair performance discrepancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ERC View Post
    Rooting through the old filing cabinet and found a folder of various attempts at painting from my youth. Painted on card and looking a bit grubby, (don't use blu-tak) but as it is OK to post faded, out of focus, distant photographs out of historical interest, I thought I may as well show these.

    Needless to say, whilst most 20 year olds in NZ would have been hooning around in their old cars, chasing (and probably catching) nubile young maidens, lubricating the tonsils with Lion Red or DB Brown, some of us were somewhat cash strapped and unable to afford such things, so evenings were spent at home with the record player playing jazz, (whilst everyone else had graduated to the Liverpool sound), reading Motorsport and Miniature Auto from cover to cover and painting.


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    These pics need to go on a tee shirt, I buy the first one. nice work!

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    Good idea. I'd buy one too

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    I'm flattered guys! A tee shirt. Never thought about that, but just out of interest, which one or two would be worth doing?

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    One each year Ray...they are awesome. Talk to Steve when he gets back from holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERC View Post
    I'm flattered guys! A tee shirt. Never thought about that, but just out of interest, which one or two would be worth doing?
    Do them all, you choose Ray

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    There was a tee-shirt around some 20 years ago that had line drawings of a Lancia D50, Maserati 250F, W196 and a Vanwall - four great front-engine F1 cars. Milan can possibly supply a photo - I always thought a run of tee-shirts would be good, each with a theme.

    For example - here you've got early McLaren F1 cars. Do we know anyone who has an insight into the tee-shirt business?

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