Quote Originally Posted by AMCO72 View Post
I am just going through this COD thing right now with the Amco Mini. You wouldn't have thought it would be a problem. It's a well known car, has never 'disappeared', still has it's original body, and wheels, and upholstery, and most else, except of course the current engine. The new engine being assembled right now is even better......has the original Arden 8 port head, that had to be extensively and expensively repaired, and the original twin Dellorto carburetors. And I mean the original.... the head and carbs were the ones on the car in 1972. Of course with racing over many years things have worn out, been replaced, and some originality is lost ,inevitably. The alternative is the cars are showpieces. So the Mini is as good as you could get in originality terms..... it certainly hasn't been re-bodied for instance. My application is being 'processed' at the moment. Are you telling me RogerH that my VCC log book and COD allow me to race in,say, the festival of speed in January at HD. My understanding was that the VCC certification only applied to VCC events, other wise I wouldn't have gone to all this trouble in getting a MSNZ form. And if the VCC can issue a COD for $23, why does it cost 5 times that here for a MSNZ one, and 30 times that in OZ, for a rubber stamp. Doesn't add up to me.
Gerald, the VCC option unfortunately only applies to pre 31.12.1960 cars so your Amco Mini will need to go through the much more expensive MSNZ COD system. With your Amco Mini COD I would have thought you would have no issues.
There is an agreement that goes back many years between MSNZ and VCC where each recognises each other's documentation. The matter with MSNZ fees is ongoing and there seems little correlation between the fee charged and the service provided. An example is the Trans Tasman Visa (TTV) which every Kiwi racing their cars in Australia is required to buy from MSNZ for $250 (and it only lasts for a year). The first time I fronted up at documentation in Australia with my TTV they asked what it was and said I didn't need it!! When I came back I asked MSNZ what I was getting for my $250 they said insurance cover (but CAMS provided that anyway!!) and I was then told by the MSNZ staff member that if I could afford to take a car to Australia to race then I could afford to pay MSNZ $250 for the privilege!!
I think both MSNZ and CAMS have evolved into bureaucracies and as such the fees you pay for anything is required to feed the system. On the other hand VCC is much more volunteer based and doesn't have all the "fat cats" and their fees are accordingly much, much more reasonable.