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    That's just what people do in that state, Ken, isn't it?

    Not that you can see any cows as you drive by...

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    1951
    You may not see any cows in the photo but you can almost see the whites of John Fitch's eyes and his hair going grey as he flashes past in his race winning Cunningham C2-R !
    It was incidents like this that caused this public road circuit to close down shortly after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khyndart in CA View Post
    1951
    You may not see any cows in the photo but you can almost see the whites of John Fitch's eyes and his hair going grey as he flashes past in his race winning Cunningham C2-R !
    It was incidents like this that caused this public road circuit to close down shortly after.
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    (Ken H)
    The C-2 R is unusual in having a fully framed windscreen - the C2's at Le Mans in 1951 [ 3 of them ] had low screens, one very low so that the rear vision mirror stuck up high in the air on its mounting.

    Ken H, this is being written, not far from Kiwitahi, as I am on a farm in Te Poi at the moment, was in Matamata yesterday for shopping and a coffee - The Coffee Bar is owned by an American too !! - he is here, and you are there .. some sort of a Foreign Exchange ??

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    I'm becoming very disappointed here, the 'June Sprints' were very well known and were a time for the college students in those Northern states to get away for a weekend of fun in the sun...

    Meantime, here's another old race track:



    Pic from 1951 or 1952, a very varied field. The width of the circuit confirms that it's an old air base.

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    Sorry Ray,
    Did you want me to name that other course by the lake ?

    Ken

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    Ken, you've done your bit...

    Dozens of others are looking in, it would be nice if one of them would stick their necks out. Even if they get it wrong they'll learn something and nobody will be nasty to them.

    Do you like the Regal in the pic above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell View Post
    I'm becoming very disappointed here, the 'June Sprints' were very well known and were a time for the college students in those Northern states to get away for a weekend of fun in the sun...

    Meantime, here's another old race track:



    Pic from 1951 or 1952, a very varied field. The width of the circuit confirms that it's an old air base.
    Thats a great line up Ray! I love those older shots, do you have anymore?
    Cheers

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    Sadly it gets worse...



    MGs, MG Specials (including the Cobden 'Cigar') and some small fry.



    Now you know they're kidding, right? This was a four-mile circuit with no slow corners.



    Kiwis might remember the car which won the 1954 NZ GP, here it is with Stan Jones aboard, Lex Davison in the Diana Davison TC Special alongside and to the right one of the great Australian Specials driven by Rex Law.

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    Ray,
    That Prefect is all set to go. Hubcaps removed compared to the opposition for quick pit stops and tyre changes, the headlight looks like it still has the WW 2 blackout cover on and the number 21 looks like it could be easily rubbed off for the drive home !

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    C'mon folks.
    Ray has given us the country and approx. dates.
    How many airfields were being raced on in Australia at that time ?
    As Ray states; At least give it a go and you know if I can figure it out then surely you can, as I am known here at work as not being as exactly the "sharpest knife in the drawer" !

    Ken H.

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    The Box Brownie pics are from Queensland in '52-'54 or so, and it's not Lowood...

    We're still waiting on a finalisation of the Yankee one, open road circuit, there were two different layouts, it's a state which has a border with Canada and there's a modern artificial circuit there which hosted Can-Am and IndyCar.

    By the way, Ken, did you give consideration to the valve bounce which would have been achieved by that Prefect on the long downhill leg, over a mile long after the exit to a bend that nobody ever had to back off for?

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    How many airfields were being raced on in Australia

    [QUOTE=khyndart in CA;69869]C'mon folks.
    Ray has given us the country and approx. dates.
    How many airfields were being raced on in Australia at that time ?
    As Ray states; At least give it a go and you know if I can figure it out then surely you can, as I am known here at work as not being as exactly the "sharpest knife in the drawer" !

    Ken H, and Ray Bell,
    My knowledge of Australian circuits is limited. Obviously know the current ones as used by V8 Supercars series and a few smaller ones like Lakeside - as for lost tracks, Longford, Catalina Park, - for many more will have to do a lot of Google-ing.

    As has mentioned NZ had a few Airfield Circuits.
    Ardmore - still an airfield
    Wigram - no longer used
    Seagrove - went in the 1950's
    Ohakea - still an airfield
    Whenuapai - still an airfield ?
    Hobsonville - no longer and I don't think ever hosted Motorsport
    Waharoa - still an airfield - used mainly for gliders these days.

    OK - enough of my " waffling " -off to play with Google and look at this Facebook Page
    " Old Motor Racing Photographs - Australia "
    " https://www.facebook.com/groups/190760908334658/ "

    I may come back with some answers !!, but more likely some questions ??
    - and it is heading for Beer O'Clock here - the first in the world in the new Day - Wednesday afternoon at 4;25 PM .. NZDST -New Zealand - Daylight Saving Time - which finishes in a couple of weekends.

    Ray and I never did catch up for that chat back in 2016 - I left the " Sunburnt Country " in April 2017.

    Cheers

    Roger D.
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  13. #193
    Yes, you sneaked out of there...

    Airfield circuits in Australia:

    Strathpine
    Mt Druitt
    Marsden Park
    Nowra
    Valleyfield
    Mooliabeenie
    Caversham
    Pearce
    Lowood
    Fishermens Bend
    Beverley
    Schofields
    Wangaratta
    Busselton
    Leyburn
    Point Cook
    Gawler
    Quorn Hall
    Ringwood
    Ballarat
    Tomago

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    Old [ and Lost ] Race Tracks

    A list - I have no idea of the accuracy but here is a start for Ray Bell, and Ken H ..

    These are Closed or Inactive Tracks.
    " Adelaide International Raceway, Adelaide, South Australia (still has limited use)
    Amaroo Park, Sydney, New South Wales
    Aspendale Racecourse, Aspendale, Victoria
    Ballarat Airport, Ballarat, Victoria
    Brenock Park Speedway, Ferntree Gully, Victoria
    Brisbane Exhibition Ground, Brisbane, Queensland
    Canberra International Dragway, Fairburn, Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
    Canberra Street Circuit, Canberra, Australian Capital Territory
    Castlereagh International Dragway, Sydney, New South Wales
    Catalina Park, Katoomba, New South Wales
    Caversham Airfield, Caversham, Western Australia
    Claremont Speedway, Perth, Western Australia
    Gnoo Blas Motor Racing Circuit, Orange, New South Wales
    Homebush Street Circuit, Sydney Olympic Park, New South Wales
    Hume Weir Motor Racing Circuit, Albury-Wodonga, New South Wales
    King Edward Park Hillclimb, Newcastle, New South Wales
    Liverpool Speedway, Sydney, New South Wales
    Longford Circuit, Longford, Tasmania
    Lowood circuit, Tarampa, Queensland
    Macarthur Park Street Circuit Australian Capital Territory (motorcycle/sidecar racing only)
    Oran Park Raceway, Sydney, New South Wales
    Port Wakefield Circuit, Port Wakefield, South Australia
    Rowley park speedway, Adelaide, South Australia
    Surfers Paradise International Raceway, Gold Coast, Queensland
    Sydney Showground Speedway, Sydney, New South Wales
    Templestowe hillclimb racetrack, Melbourne, Victoria
    Tralee Speedway, Queanbeyan, New South Wales
    Warwick Farm Raceway, Sydney, New South Wales "

    Includes a couple of Airfield circuits " in bold "

    More to come - soon - that first Beer is now being opened I waited until 5;00 PM- such restraint ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell View Post
    Yes, you sneaked out of there...

    Airfield circuits in Australia:

    Strathpine
    Mt Druitt
    Marsden Park
    Nowra
    Valleyfield
    Mooliabeenie
    Caversham
    Pearce
    Lowood
    Fishermens Bend
    Beverley
    Schofields
    Wangaratta
    Busselton
    Leyburn
    Point Cook
    Gawler
    Quorn Hall
    Ringwood
    Ballarat
    Tomago
    Ray you and I were busy at the same time 5;05 pm NZdst - your list is more defined - thanks - will go to my archives.
    Cheers
    Roger D

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    Lost and Current tracks New Zealand -

    This is a List - not complete, I am sure as know of a few others ;

    " Street circuits
    Cemetery Circuit, Wanganui (a.k.a. Southern Hemisphere's Isle of Man)
    Dunedin Street Circuit, Dunedin (see also Southern Festival of Speed)
    Paeroa Street Circuit, Paeroa (a.k.a. Battle of the Streets)
    Port Nelson Street Circuit, Nelson

    Permanent circuits
    Circuit Chris Amon (Manfeild), Feilding
    Hampton Downs, North Waikato
    Highlands Motorsport Park, Cromwell new permanent track
    Mike Pero Motorsport Park, Christchurch
    Pukekohe Park Raceway, Pukekohe
    Bruce McLaren Motorsport Park, Taupo
    Teretonga Park, Invercargill
    Timaru International Motor Raceway (levels), Timaru

    Drag strips
    Fram Autolite Dragway, Meremere
    Masterton Motorplex, Masterton
    Motueka Aerodrome, Motueka
    Powerbuilt Raceway at Ruapuna Park, Christchurch
    Taupo Motorsport Park, Taupo

    Inactive tracks
    Wellington Street Circuit, Wellington City (see also Wellington 500)
    Wigram Airfield Circuit, Christchurch (see also Tasman Series)
    Hamilton Street Circuit, Hamilton City (a.k.a. Hamilton 400)

    Historic tracks
    Ardmore, South Auckland (circuit/drag racing)
    Kerrs Road, Wiri (drag racing)
    Muriwai Beach, Muriwai
    Napier Airport (drag racing)
    Thunderpark, Hastings (drag racing)
    Bay Park Raceway, Tauranga (circuit racing)
    "
    Off the top of my head - as they say.
    There are quite a few missing.

    in no particular order - sound s like a TV show competition !!.

    Drag Strips [ lost ]
    Kopuku,- near Maramarua a metal road

    Road circuits [ lost ]
    Mairehu, near Christchurch
    Napier street circuit
    Paritutu, New Plymouth
    Ryall Bush,Southland

    Grass and other circuits
    Kerepehi Domain - Grass
    Waharoa Airfield - Grass

    As more come to mind or my searching will add here !!.

    as a disclaimer,
    I must add that I am a retired JaFA, [ now resident in the BOP ].. and apart from being in Dunedin in 1984 for the Road Races, have never been further South than Ohakea.
    In fact have only attended Pukekohe [ so many times 1964 - 2007 ], Baypark [ 3 -4 times ] Ohakea once - including the practice day at Manfeild , Taupo once, although have driven around it [ unofficially back in the 1980's ] and Hampton Downs.
    Australia is very sparse for my 8 years there, Sydney [Homebush ] once, Lakeside about 6 or 7 times.

    Still not really helping answer Ray's questions but getting it on the Forum

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    Ninety Mile Beach...

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    Both of Ray's last two tracks have sprint events.
    One takes place in June and the other in August.

    Ken...I think I am correct !

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    To my knowledge, Roger, King Edward Park hillclimb still operates...

    The first weekend in September, as I recall, it was only ever once a year to my knowledge and it's a part of the Mattara Festival.

    Not that I'd expect hillclimbs and drag strips, even speedways, to be part of this discussion.

    Ken, which ones have sprints once a year? Tomago? Ballarat Airfield? The latter I'd say is quite possible, but I've never heard of Tomago still being used. Leyburn, the town, has sprints once a year too. These were commenced to draw attention to the 50th anniversary of the Australian Grand Prix being held on the airfield there and kind of kept going for the next 20+ years.

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    Roger you left out the original Mt Maunganui circuit.

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