Russ, another Guy in the same mould as Sandy, was Kim Austin. Cant remember much about him except that I loved his driving style and the machines he created. Think he lived down Otorahanga way. I went to a couple of hill climbs where he was participating. I do know he died some years ago and his cars are also probably under some hedge somewhere. I think he may have done the Ashley Forest sprint at some stage.....now that was great to watch, especially the downhill section. Some amazing car control, some times out of control, efforts down there. Your comment that 'dont you just treasure guys like this' is bang on. Unfortunately they just tend to get forgotten. Anyone know any more about Kim?