Ray,
When I visited Patrick Head at Williams Engineering in June 1996, Patrick was about to go to Goodwood to set up the Williams 6 wheel
Formula One car he designed in 1982. The FW08B. It never raced but Patrick has his notes on the car in his hand as we were photographed in their showroom.
By any chance did you take any photos of this six wheeler when you were there ?
Thanks for all your wonderful photos.
Cheers Ken.
Patrick & Ken..photo by Sean Hyndman
I posted a message earlier, today, but it disappeared! Ken, I think I have pics of the six wheeler at the Donington Museum, Goodwood - (static) and at Monaco 2012. I'll post eventually... (see later post)
Scanner seems to be developing a mind of its own as I had to rescan several negs, (took 32 wasted minutes for just one set of scans...) as the produced scan wasn't as sharp as my negatives. I didn't want to post poorer quality pics than they deserve.
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Ray,
I found these B&W pics from a 1982 press release that Patrick sent to me of the 6 wheeled Williams F 1 car. Not as great a quality as your photos but gives an idea of this different approach to getting the power to the road. Imagine the pit work to do a tire change on this !
(Ken Hyndman )
Whoops! Sorry, I was thinking about the Tyrrell!!! No, I didn't see the Williams 6 wheeler, but I'm usually only at Goodwood on the Fridays with a very patient wife or a non-petrolhead brother, so I don't take as many pics as I would like and am not normally around for much of the actual competition.
More from Goodwood. The re-scan's showed that I was right to do so, but what waste of time.
Currently seriously contemplating a visit to the Goodwood Revival in 2016, but as it is less than 2 weeks after returning from our annual long cruise, I may need to do some serious grovelling at home... (and sell off more books, memorabilia and garage items).
This is from a slightly earlier film of the day. I had/have been taking a pot luck attitude to scanning by flicking through three large volumes of filed negatives, but in this instance, I did want to digitally capture a few more from that specific event.
Heading up to the top paddock before they moved all the cars down to their allocated parking areas was productive, but the crowds pile in very quickly.
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...and wait, there's more! Bear in mind this is the Festival hill-climb and not the Revival race meeting. Lord March and his team certainly invite a stunning diversity of machinery to these events.
See what I mean about trying to get a good pic of the action past the front of Goodwood House? Two for me (above) and 3 for Spgeti...
Last edited by ERC; 11-23-2015 at 02:42 AM.
Thanks Ray, some I can identify but there a couple I can't. As usual great photos and variety. Cheers Bruce
A more modern take on the Broadspeed GT. Sorry, but I don't think it looks as good with the later Mini grille and the screen doesn't look as though it has been raked back like the original either.
One of the two 4WD, 4.9 litre Bugattis
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1996 again
On to 2002 - the Goodwood Festival again of course. Still on film. No (decent) digital until 2004 for me.
The Indy roadsters always seemed to look immaculate in period whereas many European race cars look much better now than they ever did in period.
The Festival paddocks are usually open to all, whereas at the Revival Race meeting, you need a pass to get into the paddock - and they are not on general sale.
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2002 again. Having learned from my previous visit, I managed to elbow my way to a better viewing position for a while. In pre digital days, there were just far too many great cars to snap, so taking just a fraction of what was around was a limiting factor. Not the sharpest of photographs (or maybe the scanner is playing up again). Two more for Spgeti...
Having just finished reading Tony Brooks detailed autobiography (Poetry In Motion), I'm glad I managed to get this picture. Probably too much of a gentleman to have received the recognition he truly deserved, he could so easily have been World Champion and is generally acknowledged as being kinder on the car than any of his contemporaries. Later accounts from others almost always rate him very highly as a team member as well as a driver. Probably in my all time top five of favourite drivers.
Milliken's 'Camber car" with the designer driving.
Bevin Chevrolet. Thanks to Lord March, yet another car I'd never heard of before he invited it.
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Ray, should that be Devin, quite a known fibreglass manufacturer from the US?
Thanks Rhys. Must wear my glasses more often...
Ray,
The Red #85 is a DEVIN SS. Bill Devin (usa) was known for building fibre glass body's for sports cars. There were 27 different sizes to choose from i.e. , triumph Tr3 , MGA , C1 corvettes , Porsche 356 or VW floor pans .
The Devin SS was built as a turn key Sports car powered by The small block chevy. Only 15 cars "SS" were made.
This is a Devon Healey 100 V8 powered I saw for sale on the net some years ago. It had a tubular subframe welded to the original chassis and a fibreglass body. Probably a nice quick car that handled pretty well. The V8 would have been a similar weight to the 100/4 engine with a lot more power!!Originally Posted by Horizon
I love these 1950s American cottage industry sports cars. There were a bunch of different manufacturers, producing some really pretty cars.
Did the Echidna (pictured) use the same same body molds as the Devin?
In the middle picture of #774, is that a knee action shock I see lurking there?
Allan, us vintage guys call those lever armsbut yes that's what is in there. Some race series insist on using what was fitted originally, so may be why. When they are working properly they are still a good system, just their maintenance was often overlooked.
Thanks for that. I have a few quandaries when cataloguing the pics. So many cars and so many categories, so generally, manufactured cars are filed by make initial country of origin.
There is also a huge list of 'specials' which range from manufactured specials to total one offs. Although many were body kits plonked onto rather mundane mechanicals, many have volume in their favour.
I do now have a major problem in knowing how to identify and therefore catalogue 'replicas'. For example, if you spy a good Lotus Eleven replica which may be a Westfield, but the owner has put Lotus badges on it or as I saw in the UK, the most stunning recreations/replicas of the 1950's Aston Martin, how do you know? AC Cobra's or replicas? Photographs I took in 1970 are easy, but take a pic today at an overseas venue?
The other issue is that I file all road car makes by country and also try and keep a copy of all British Race cars by the year I took the photograph.
This makes it difficult with cars that may have been manufactured in more than one country. Do you file the original Ford GT40 as British or American? (So far, I file the originals as British and the more recent one as USA.)
How do you categorise McLarens?
How terrible to be so anal about it, but when and if pictures are published, who wants to be shot down in flames when you post or even worse, publish a picture believing it to be a genuine car and it turns out to be a replica.
What about the 191 shark nose Ferrari and Lancia D50(?) replicas? We know they are recreations as the originals no longer exist.
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Thank you for that "Old Fart". I have seen these on many vehicles in my time as I have been around a while, possibly older than you.
Allan
Well into my Maori chequebook now!
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