Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection [Archive] - Page 10

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05-30-2018, 09:34 PM

My pleasure Bruce. Yes, it takes time, but at least it seems to be appreciated.

Now we are effectively in the 'off season', I'm now very busy building up my 'memorabilia and books for sale' web pages, starting with pages specifically for ERA, BRM memorabilia and race programmes. Time to not just declutter, but to make sure stuff goes to a good home and not into a rubbish skip. There is a lot to list so progress is slow.

Still in the early stages, but if anyone is interested:

http://www.monza.org.nz/memorabilia/memorabilia.htm

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Last post for a few days...

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06-07-2018, 09:54 PM

Back from a short hop to Sydney...

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JT points out the Morris Minor bonnet at the rear of Bevan's Morris 8 Special!
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ERC

06-12-2018, 10:55 PM

The problem with modern sports racing cars is that without a programme, identification is totally reliant on the programme. Never had this problem with Austin Healeys, Triumphs and MGs, not to mention the smaller manufacturers.

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One of my favourite saloons of the era.
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Yes Roger, you can steal this one of Alan Horner...
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Paul B

06-13-2018, 05:17 AM

Love the shifter Ray from above shot, Its a between the legs shift.
I really like the originality of that car, a real time capsule.
Great shot!
Cheers

ERC

06-13-2018, 10:04 PM

A potential ball breaker Paul? I'd want a five point harness...

Back to the Hooters race - and it was a race at the front!

* Images disappeared yet again. Reloaded 12:45pm

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ERC

06-14-2018, 10:33 PM

Last batch from that meeting.
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I posted this pic on a Facebook page for British Classic cars and asked people to identify it. I ended up having to post a clue! Hamish Andrew's Speedex.
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Katie's Porsche - not Ray's.
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Roger Dowding

06-16-2018, 04:08 AM

ERC, Ray Re ; " Yes Roger, you can steal this one of Alan Horner... ", Thank You again Ray ..
Like that Riley too !! The orginal " Dowding " Riley enthusiast is no longer with us,otherwise would show Ed Dowding the shot.

Cheers, Roger D

ERC

06-16-2018, 11:42 PM

Caffeine and Classics end of May was not exactly blessed with good weather, so the turnout at 9:15am wasn't as high as usual. Cars continued to trickle in steadily, but nothing like the sunny summer meets. Full marks for those who did make the effort.

Hint, if you park with the nose towards the motorway, the sun is at the rear of the car so taking front three-quarter photographs is more of a challenge.
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06-18-2018, 12:57 AM

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06-18-2018, 09:05 PM

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Its all very well having a low car with added on side skirts, until you have to negotiate the speed bump and one of the side skirts falls off... (The one on the other side.)
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rf84

06-18-2018, 10:36 PM

Car #58 above is the Terra FX. Similar to some of the "twin boom" record breaker cars of the 50s and 60s in that the driver sits in a pontoon on one side and the motor and transmission (Suzuki 1300 Hyabusa from memory) are in the pontoon on the other side. In this case the whole underside is a big ground effects venturi.

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06-19-2018, 10:17 PM

Little and large...
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06-25-2018, 01:29 AM

Last of the wet May C & C pics.
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But the Porsches were meeting at the Columbus cafe round the corner...
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But this car wasn't on show, just dumped...

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ERC

06-25-2018, 09:55 PM

Just for a change, and before the June Caffeine & Classics meet, I fished out Dad's Merit (plastic) car kits. Unfortunately, one or two need a bit of remedial work so when I have sourced a new tube of glue, I'll put them back together and photograph them too. Thanks to Bill H, I have started bidding on EBAY on an unbuilt kit of the Talbot Lago, now under the SMER label. No doubt I'll be grabbing the Alfa too, the only ones Merit did with engine detail. Yes, spoked wheels are rubbish, but at 7/6 in old money, pretty good kits. The ones with engine detail were a little more expensive - but all were well outside my 2/- a week pocket money.
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The BRM was brush painted... Remember that spray cans weren't available back then, so it was a case of Brasso on the bare plastic, or gambling on enamels that took hours to dry.
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chaindrive

06-25-2018, 10:28 PM

Luv Em all

nigel watts

06-26-2018, 06:26 AM

1966 Auto World catalogue

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chaindrive

06-26-2018, 07:10 AM

That's a collectors piece itself !

ERC

06-26-2018, 09:39 PM

June Caffeine and Classics - this meet, despite the dodgy weather, still attracts cars we haven't seen before - and many regulars of course.

Reds
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Roger Dowding

06-27-2018, 02:44 AM

Luv Em all

Well said, now feeling guilty as have a couple of kits - American which need to be rebuilt /repaired, a 1937 Chevrolet two door Convertible and a Willys Coupe Hot Rod / Drag Car.. have an unmade one of the 1937 Chevrolet too !! and a couple of MX5 NA series.

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06-29-2018, 04:22 AM

Brits
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He only picked it up the day before...
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06-30-2018, 02:32 AM

Not the same car as above! Same plate when owned by Mal Clark. I believe this car went to Japan (V8 Rover power?).
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A bit different from the Morrari Greg...
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06-30-2018, 10:14 PM

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John McKechnie

07-01-2018, 12:46 AM

David Lanes 1930 Studebaker, LHD , has traveled many different countries

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07-01-2018, 11:09 PM

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This plate was a laugh out loud moment.
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Yes, it rained, but thankfully, not for too long.
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Roger Dowding

07-02-2018, 06:17 AM

Ray re this ;
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Great a Singer Sports - were they called a "Le Mans" believe or not I have a ' Dublo Dinky ' " 00 " scale model of that.
Dinky introduced Dublo [ 00 = double O ] for their 00 Railways and also to combat " Matchbox ", don't think that lasted too long as Hornby got taken over.
Then later on Mattel seemed to have picked most of small model and railway manufacturers..

Oldfart

07-02-2018, 06:43 AM

This is supposed to be a Le mans

ERC

07-02-2018, 08:15 AM

Yes Roger. I had that model too. Singer Roadster 1500 I believe. Sold it, along with a good percentage of my Dinky collection to finance a cruising habit...

Now started listing a whole swag of stuff. Time to downsize the various piles and collections, so as not to burden the surviving family when I do finally shuffle off. Part of the 'Advance Care Planning' philosophy.

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07-02-2018, 09:58 PM

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Roger Dowding

07-03-2018, 06:17 AM

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07-03-2018, 08:15 AM

I haven't exactly got one foot in the grave just yet, but after my wife's heart attack a year ago, it caused a radical shake up and an 'Advanced Care Planning' session highlighted just what others may have to deal with.

Dealing with my parent's stuff in the UK was a major mission and although there were some collectible treasures, it was several week's hard work.

Quite frankly, I don't want to burden the family here and there has to come a time when you have to sit back and take stock. Having already taken stock, I realise that even listing the stuff is a huge time consuming task, let alone disposing of it!

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07-03-2018, 10:15 PM

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07-04-2018, 02:29 AM

Just to get Roger dribbling... (Yes, you may steal them...) Goodwood Revival 2009.

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If I hadn't had my brother with me, and a need to get to Christchurch (UK!) for the Chris Barber concert, I would have spent more time here in this external car park, taking photographs. I'll keep my eyes open this year.
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Roger Dowding

07-04-2018, 05:38 AM

Gunna steal the whole set,
Cheers Ray and " Ripleys believe it or not " I should be at Caffeine and Classics July, in Auckland for a few weeks, the MX5 which has stayed here needs a warrant - travelled about 40km since the last one, has a flattish battery - the power not the style, so here is hoping I get there .. :cool:

Roger Dowding

07-04-2018, 05:51 AM

quote Ray Green ERC
" If I hadn't had my brother with me, and a need to get to Christchurch (UK!) for the Chris Barber concert, I would have spent more time here in this external car park, taking photographs. I'll keep my eyes open this year."

Looks like one of the 2 or 3 Rolls Royce powered Healeys beside the 100S's ??
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Ray, what a choice Chris Barber or Austin Healey, I like Jazz [and Blues too ] so understand a hard call.

Thank you for the photos - they will probably appear on the Austin Healey 100S Facebook page - with due acknowledgement very soon, like tomorrow !!

Paul Wilkinson

07-04-2018, 07:23 AM

Ray, Mate, Advance Care Planning, is OK as long as you are not planning to " Exit Stage Left " as a well known Cartoon Character " Top Cat " or TC would say.

Ahem, I think you mean Snagglepuss!

ERC

07-04-2018, 08:46 AM

I have a double CD for you then Roger - the "Down Under Tour 2000". (Chris Barber & Kenny Ball bands) They left me with the unsold stock - as a thank you for assisting with CD and programme sales on the tour. I'll try and remember to bring it along.

Oldfart

07-04-2018, 10:38 AM

Ray, are we still on for a meet?

ERC

07-04-2018, 10:13 PM

Yes Rhys! Still waiting for an email from a UK buddy regarding a possible Coventry trip, plus a day when a couple of kiwi friends will come up to Nottingham for the day. I'm planning on doing the morning at least, of the Grimsthorpe Castle Speed Trials event, August 26th.

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khyndart in CA

07-04-2018, 10:46 PM

But Ray,
I thought you were joining Bruce Thompson, Rod Grimwood and myself for lunch at Laguna Seca, California on August 26th ?
I guess I got confused between Grimsthorpe and Grimwood. Sorry.
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http://www.weathertechraceway.com/rolex-monterey-motorsports-reunion

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07-05-2018, 02:14 AM

Sorry Ken. Much as I would have liked to have joined you, it wasn't possible.

I have too few days in the UK as it is and I seem to be filling my diary rather quickly, but at least I should have a swag of pictures to share when I do finally return, as I'm away again for a week with my wife, her daughter and another lady, just 2 days after getting back to NZ.

Grimsthorpe Castle popped up via a Facebook page for Raymond Mays.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=621224834921693&set=gm.1807781692622621&type=3&theater&ifg=1

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07-05-2018, 09:36 PM

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Oldfart

07-06-2018, 07:16 AM

Sorry for ot Ray, emails are bouncing to the address I have for you.

ERC

07-06-2018, 09:11 AM

Email sent Rhys. I had to dump my original email as it was being spammed. Shame, as I'd had it since I first had my own domain.

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07-07-2018, 03:29 AM

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Looks more like a Holden than an ERA...
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That's a wrap. Now back to older stuff recently scanned.

Donington July 9th 1938. Cropped from a larger pic.
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September 22nd 2002 - Greg Bellingham's beautiful XJS Jaguar. Not a good day for me though...
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Andrew Metford

07-07-2018, 09:10 AM

Where's the Jag these days? Haven't seen it for years.......

ERC

07-08-2018, 01:14 AM

Rumour has it that Greg still owns the car and there was even talk of him coming out to play again. We live in hope.

Back to 2002 - March 30th
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The Maybach Special
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Out of focus pic for Remi, of Rob Herbert in Dad's Ginetta.
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07-09-2018, 12:29 AM

Roger Dowding

07-09-2018, 05:33 AM

Back to 1970 - another two just for Roger - who may or may not steal them. Bill Viney, Mallory Park - sorry, a little out of focus.
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July 1980 - Donington
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Back to February 2002 - I hadn't realised until I posted it that it was damaged!
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When you could still watch from the exit of Jennian...
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Ray Re : Back to 1970 - another two just for Roger - who may or may not steal them.
Healey shots " stolen " already !!

Ray what is the BRG Tojeiro like looking car behind the Healey at Donington ?? very nice looking car !!

ERC

07-09-2018, 07:53 AM

Frazer Nash Roger, but it is one of the few meetings where I lost my programme and never managed a replacement. I certainly have it filed as Frazer Nash!
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Took a lot of research over an extended period and and no end of emails to even get the date confirmed...

Amazing what you can find when you put the registration plate and Frazer Nash into Google! It's a 1954 Sebring.

http://poeschloncars.blogspot.com/2017/02/frazer-nash-part-2-when-replica-is-not.html

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07-09-2018, 09:30 PM

Still February 2002
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Dauntsey Teagle - Leyland P76
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Roger Dowding

07-10-2018, 05:30 AM

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07-10-2018, 08:30 AM

Roger Dowding

07-10-2018, 08:37 AM

Yup. Still here Roger. C & C is still enjoyable - and free, which Goodwood definitely isn't! I'll probably be there earlyish. Might take the MGF for a WoF and bring it down, but I really do need to sell it, as I just don't use it enough. 1998 and only 70,000kms on the clock.

Well, we should catch up then MGF and MX5 different versions of the same idea a " small affordable Sports Car " from the 1990's ..
If we both get WoF's will be good.. mine tomorrow,more details after that !! will PM my mobile number later
Roger D

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07-10-2018, 10:17 PM

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When we get to Formula Fords, I always need to research to find out what they are. Can someone please ID this for me, to save me some time? I should know, but I don't!
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Geoff expecting wet weather again...
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khyndart in CA

07-10-2018, 11:04 PM

Ray,
I am not very good with Formula Fords but it does look like a Valour FF that Peter Hughes drove well in about 1972.
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Plus some history at this site.
http://valourff.blogspot.com/

(Ken H )

ERC

07-11-2018, 02:13 AM

Thanks Ken. Saved me a heap of time! I didn't realise it was also NZ made.

Remi110984

07-11-2018, 04:05 PM

Out of focus pic for Remi, of Rob Herbert in Dad's Ginetta.

Thanks Ray! I don't have photos from the period 2000 - 2011
Where was this one taken?

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07-11-2018, 08:30 PM

March 30th 2002 Pukekohe Remi. (If you run your mouse over the pics, it should start with the date: 202 = 2002, 192 = 1992, followed by the month and day = 202_0330 anything beyond that is usually a film negative number or sequence number or another filing number.)

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07-11-2018, 08:58 PM

Whilst Rob had a run out in the Ginetta, Tony ran his Elan.
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Is this Sadler still in NZ? Haven't seen it out for a fair time.
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Another Formula Ford I need to identify!
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ERC

07-12-2018, 10:38 PM

Back to September 2002

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Tony Robert in the BIG McLaren
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Then things went to custard. Nose to tail into the Pukekohe hairpin, obviously every one hard on the brakes, coming down from over 110mph (or almost 120mph in my case!) but someone (in a red MGB sports) lost it on the exit, so there was a nose to tail crunch, which didn't exactly help my fibreglass bodywork as I hit Dave Mallin's steel bodied MGB.
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Some scary work with a hacksaw
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...and duct tape. Murray thinks it amazing, whilst Rex offers up a silent prayer.
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A somewhat lopsided result which not for the last time, demanded some serious fibreglass work on the front end. The next time involved avoiding that Triumph (I think it was that one) which was merrily spinning on its roof, on the racing line, in the middle of what was by then, the John Deere mountain. But that is another story.
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The MG Midget (Stuart Clumpas) is still around and of course, Rod Hemmings is still running the TVR.

Paul Wilkinson

07-13-2018, 02:53 AM

That (I assume) stub-axle failure happened right by where I was spectating. Geez it all happened quickly! I was particularly upset about your car, having known it from the days of Richard's ownership….

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07-13-2018, 04:38 AM

Not as upset as I was Paul! Split second decision. Hit an inverted spinning car and risk injuring the driver, or brake whilst cornering on the limit and spin into the concrete... On a permanent circuit, there should always be some wiggle room, which is why several drivers now refuse to race at Pukekohe.

It's more upsetting when no one was at fault and you smash both ends of your car - and you can't just nip down to Pick a part - and no one has any body moulds... Ironically, Andy Culpin had approached me a matter of days earlier, asking if he could take some moulds off the car as he had a six litre Chevvy engine and wanted to build a Marcos chassis/body. Little did we know then that he'd buy the ex UK LM500.

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07-13-2018, 10:08 PM

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Spgeti

07-14-2018, 02:40 AM

Hi Ray, I see the Sadler has just been listed on Race-Cars.com.

Andrew Metford

07-15-2018, 03:09 AM

http://race-cars.com/carsales/other/1531038903/1531038903ss.htm

ERC

07-15-2018, 04:15 AM

Once again, I had no idea it was NZ made. Thanks Andrew. I thought it was Canadian!

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07-15-2018, 10:03 PM

September 2002. Greg Sutton has a whoopsie.
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In the days when JT was better known for driving rather than talking. Start of an ERC handicap race, but in the days when it was sponsored by Leisuretime Spa and Pool Covers (Geoff Bonham) and Tracer Interiors (Greg Bellingham). Derek Prior calling the shots for Brian Skudder (with flag) and CoC Stan Edwards.
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Not the sharpest of Photographs but Mr Metford knows the driver of the green Escort...
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John Sampson's Capri with Mike John's Vauxhall. Pity we seem to have lost some of the British variety we used to have.
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Andrew Metford

07-16-2018, 05:15 AM

I often think back to "the good old days" and wonder where all these cars are now.

- 147 Peter Barnard Escort 1600 ( was neck and neck with my brother back then early 2000's, but we've kept developing his car, had a good test day yesterday and found some good improvements) .

-John Tomlin's Triumph 2.5PI

-107 Murrey Baber MG BGT V8 - wouldn't mind getting my hands on that one

-131 Dark Blue Triumph TR6

-Clive Taylor's MG Midget - indecently quick

Sold to other shores? Sitting in sheds slowly deteriorating?

ERC

07-16-2018, 07:27 AM

As far as I know, Clive still has the Midget. JT still has the TRiumph.

Others include John Honore's Ferrari - gone overseas
Bernie's Broadspeed Replica I think went south, as did 'Pickle' which is the ex Glen Thompson MGB.
Car 275 (Red MGB sports, is the V8 now owned and raced by Grant Kern as 739.
Rob Mostern still owns the XJ6 Jaguar #23, and as stated earlier, I think Greg Bellingham still has the XJS.
Mike John may or may not still have the Viva (he sold the Mk 2 Jag to Peter Sundberg).
I haven't seen the TRiumph #131 for a while.
No idea what happened to Murray Baber's MG BV8.
I think Greg Sutton still has #52 Datsun Z.
The other red MGB sports (ex Bainbridge) is now owned by Glen Thompson and may be back.
The centre orangy red Datsun Z is now with Earl Cruickshank.
No idea what happened to Malcolm Brown's silver Datsun Z - could be Roman's?
Green TR4 was driven by Paul Reynolds, but not sure whether he owned it or not.
Car #40, Geoff Bonham's MGB is back with me... again. The Marcos is still with me but what with the MGB, the Magnette and an MGF, something really needs to go!

Most complete and roadworthy is the MGF, followed by the still unfinished, but road legal Magnette.

The MGB is undergoing some light TLC at the moment to get it back to road legal. The Marcos needs TLC too.

Oldfart

07-16-2018, 11:56 AM

Shall I stir up the pot? Hmmm, MSA (Motorsport Asociation in UK) has just DOWNSIZED the main hoop tube for roll cages!

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07-16-2018, 10:16 PM

Jeez! If MSNZ follows suit, I will have lost the use of my left hand for nothing and a reversal to common sense will upset me even more!

For those not in the know, the builder of my roll cage (and myself), in a 60 year old, steel bodied car didn't submit the paperwork to get the roll cage finally signed off in time, even though built to a MSNZ design and prior permission had been granted to go ahead and paint it.

The rules changed from 38mm to 40mm for the main hoop (which is what Oldfart is referring to) and MSNZ demanded an engineer's report for what they then deemed a 'free form cage' and no amount of pleading would appease them. They wanted it removed. Safety equipment removed. Get that!

The MSNZ test requirements were so excessive that the cage needed a load of extra bars and even their own cages wouldn't have passed the same test. At this point, the car had already been painted and trimmed.

With advice from a respected scrutineer, I then embarked on a cunning plan to hide the front part of the cage, as if it could not be seen, then it did not exist, as it did not impinge on the driver/front passenger area.

Whilst squirming around fitting a roof lining, I severely damaged my spine which killed the nerves to my left hand. Just to rub salt into the wounds, LVVTA demanded the cage be left in place and passed it. By the way, this is a modified road car, not a race car...

Oldfart's son, an engineer, and Dave Silcock (of Jaguar fame), amongst several others, were adamant that the rules were ridiculous but MSNZ wouldn't budge. The test for a free form cage took no account of the bodyshell it was attached to, so whether fitted to a Centurion tank or a fibreglass bodied car, the test was the same.

So effectively, I now carry a permanent disability and my retirement ambition of learning several Scott Joplin rags on the piano was shattered, not to mention the difficulty of even the most basic of two handed maintenance tasks.

Rant over and no apologies if people were already aware of this saga.

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07-16-2018, 10:19 PM

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Derek's immaculate triple carbed MGC.
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Remember that until HRC got stuck in, there weren't too many F5000's out on track.
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07-18-2018, 10:00 PM

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I think Kenny Smith is talking to Brendon Hartley...
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Nottingham City Police used Triumph Dolomite Sprints when they retired their Standards.
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Rex has sold the Lotus. Now with a new owner who was giving a run at HD last month.
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A bit different, but we were the merchandisers for Rally NZ and when based in the foyer of Sky City, had a ball, meeting enthusiasts - particularly the regulars from New Caledonia. During our factory move, the week or so before, I had my left big toe crushed under the hydraulic ramp of our removal truck, when a 14 year old pressed the down button as I was lifting off a sewing machine...
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ERC

07-19-2018, 09:17 PM

Taupo 2003, March 1st - in the days when it was just the short club circuit.

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07-20-2018, 03:03 AM

As a break, just for Roger, who will steal them of course... Apologies if any have been posted previously, as I didn't always keep track of what had been posted to TRS.
1990 - Western Springs
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2014 - St John Horsfall Aston Martin Meeting at Donington
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I sneaked into the hospitality suites to take these, otherwise, viewing was dreadful, stuck behind the wire. A massive thank you to the very kind ladies who were doing the catering.

Ross Hollings

07-20-2018, 04:45 AM

WOW, never seen that shot of my little Bugeye,just fresh from restoration.Remember going to that,why did I ever sell it.!! Cannot believe it was 28 years ago ! Ross H

Roger Dowding

07-20-2018, 05:45 AM

WOW, never seen that shot of my little Bugeye,just fresh from restoration.Remember going to that,why did I ever sell it.!! Cannot believe it was 28 years ago ! Ross H

Good photo from Ray Green, Ross and yes I will steal them to put with the others of your car - Cheers

and Thanks as always ERC .. stolen as I write this !! trying to, anyway, Multitask that is !!

ERC

07-20-2018, 08:42 PM

More for Roger...
This pic was taken on the day of my first ever sprint, at Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire, June 27th 1971.
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Pukekohe 1985
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The WSM Sprite back at Donington 2014
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Then the heavens opened...
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Roger Dowding

07-20-2018, 09:33 PM

Ray, I can't keep up, Thanks, will " steal " them later.
Cheers Roger

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07-21-2018, 10:45 PM

Back to March 2003 Taupo. My wife took some of these (ERC Series) but usually struggled with camera focus. These are the better ones.
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Graeme Collie always did have a different approach to cornering...
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Note the lack of headlamp covers... Replacements were eventually made by the McCarthy's at Plastic Construction, but out of acrylic rather than Perspex. You can see that the bonnet had been patched up by then, but obviously, a respray was beyond my budget.
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The short Taupo track never really suited the Marcos, as with that very heavy cast iron straight six up front, I can't even remember getting into 4th gear - or if I did, it was only for about two seconds a lap!

Despite the bad luck with accidents, the original Pukekohe with the long straight suited the standard car's characteristics as it has excellent brakes and the final corner could be taken flat out - provided there was no car on its roof of course...

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07-23-2018, 01:17 AM

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07-23-2018, 10:02 PM

April 2003 Pukekohe
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Domain Hillclimb May 2003 - Getting very, very annoyed with this scanner. I must have scanned some of these five times now, trying to get a sharp image.
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07-24-2018, 09:11 PM

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2004 March 27. I think this might have been the late Geoff Manning's Jaguar.
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The late, much loved, Tony Sturm, talking to Clive Taylor, who now assists Chris Browne with calculating the ERC handicaps.
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Preliminary drawing of the Chris Barber Lotus Elite painting, presented to Chris to celebrate 50 years of the Chris Barber Jazz band.
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ERC

07-27-2018, 02:53 AM

April 2004 - skipping around a bit but easier to dive into the 400+ negative films and just grab what hasn't already been scanned.

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Just before Mike Sexton bought it.
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On to June and the Goodwood Festival of Speed
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07-27-2018, 10:25 PM

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Who can ever forget this incident? Dean Fulford's Porsche landing in the spectator area on the front straight.
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Roger Dowding

07-28-2018, 08:24 PM

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I won't look like this though !! May need one though - have the hammer, not the other things !!!

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07-29-2018, 03:34 AM

Good to catch up Roger - even though it was very brief and in the rush (sold the MGF!) I forgot to give you the Chris Barber CD...

Won't be at the August meet, but for those interested, check out the 'Daffodil Run' for Charity August 26th, starting at Smales farm. Brilliant.

Huge turnout again today and the weather was kind. Will post pics eventually, but in the meantime, more to upload from the scans.

Back to the 2002 Targa - when it was more for classics than moderns.
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Roger Dowding

07-29-2018, 04:52 AM

Quote " Good to catch up Roger - even though it was very brief and in the rush (sold the MGF!) "
Thanks Ray yes it was good to talk after 5 attempts meet both here several times and at Chelsea Walsh and I had a chat with Kevin and his wife as you were leaving.
Please you sold the MGF - gone to a good home.
Must have been a dozen MX5's this time about 5 NA series several NB's and a few later ones - one a Black one with an Aston Martin style grille and a name on the back Mazdarati - it look stylish.
No Austin Healeys that I saw quite a few Triumphs though GT6, Heralds and I think a Vitesse that has been there before !!
Took quite few photos but will be a few days before they get downloaded.

Cheers Roger D

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07-29-2018, 09:05 PM

Roger Dowding

07-29-2018, 10:23 PM

Last outing for my low mileage MGF! Just about to leave when a couple showed interest. Took it for a test run, came back and all OK so the lady bought it.

I'll be taking it up to its new home Warkworth way on Tuesday. My wife rather unkindly said, 1 down, 6 to go... Then I pointed out that the six would include her Mini Cooper and leave us dependent on Goff's tram and Len's trainset, neither of which will be of any help to those of us living on the North Shore.

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Note that this was taken well before the supposed 10am start time... If you are not there before about 9.30am, you are banished to the overflow area. Big queues to get in - and out.

Ray,
Yes good sale !!

Those queues I got the lights at Motorway Overbridge on Northcote Road about 9;40 spent nearly 10 minutes to just get to the entrance and was directed way down the back towards Westlake Girls.
The queue coming off the motorway from North was down the off ramp and the left hand [ kerb ] lane was at a standstill.

Perhaps Protecta and the organising Guys and Girls need to have signs down the various roads that lead to the venue.
Lots of non " C and C " vehicles stuck in the Traffic.

Well worth the wait and the visit

ERC

07-29-2018, 10:40 PM

Back to 2003 and the bad smash that effectively ruined all the body work that had already been done on the car! No one's fault. That is racing but I do sincerely believe that having concrete lining a purpose built race track, with no escape options when things go to custard is a bit dumb.

Left front suspension damaged (later, much later, it was also discovered that the shock absorber was also slightly bent!).
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Rear damage was also extensive, with the bodywork damaged right up to and including the passenger door aperture.
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...and the recently repaired bonnet.
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07-31-2018, 03:19 AM

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After the mechanical work had been done, some months later I attacked the bonnet which had never sat properly anyway so I hacked off the nose!

You can see from the purple lines that all was not very square.
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At that point, I was going to update the front with the later, deeper shape and I was well advanced - and Rhys, please don't laugh at my attempts to construct a new front end... The green shaded area on the plywood hinges would have been the deeper shape.
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But then I changed my mind and opted to stick with the original shape. It may not be as efficient and looks odd when cresting the brow of turn 3 at HD, but hey, that is the way it is.

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Nigel's photo I think, of my last race in 2016.
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By the way, what appears to be a lump underneath is in fact the base of the driver's floor which sits lower than the chassis rails at sill height. It is from this angle that the underside of the nose should be deeper and line up with lower part of the sill.

Now I have sold the MGF, I'll shift the MGB GT down to Hampton Downs and bring the Marcos back home and fettle it ready for a possible sale. I've had it for 27 years and I'll be very, very sorry to see it go but the new HD directive is just another nail in the coffin of just going out for a track blast or even an occasional Classic Trial.

Believed to be the most raced Marcos Volvo 3 litre Volvo anywhere in the world! it has history. (Dr Jonathon Palmer did run a Ford V6 engined one and most of the cars racing in Historics are the early 1800cc 4 cylinder cars.)

Send me a PM if you are interested, but I won't be doing anything about it until the end of September.

Oldfart

07-31-2018, 07:17 PM

Ray, you misjudge me :) I like creativity!

ERC

07-31-2018, 09:22 PM

Thanks Rhys, but what takes me weeks, months, or in the case of the Magnette, years to achieve, a pro would have had it all wrapped up in a few days! The joy of fibreglass. Don't like, it, cut it out and have a another go! Not sitting well, cut out a vee and reglass it.

There is a link between this Mini and my Magnette. At the time this was taken, 2003 both owned by Don Bell. Always interesting to see what is in and around By'Gone Autos.

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Domain Hillclimb again. Brian's Humber 80 Special.
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Roger Dowding

08-01-2018, 06:45 AM

Domain Hillclimb again. Brian's Humber 80 Special.

Think that is the car that Ross Hollings owned at one stage the Humber 80 Special is a good looking car - I thought it was Buckler when I first saw photo's of it.have gathered a few photos of it >

Good luck with the work , only 6 cars left !! and I thought your MGF looked very tidy !!
This HD and other things with Reg's - destroying Classic Racing - very SAD ..

Oldfart

08-01-2018, 03:51 PM

Roger, the Humber 80 special did use a de Joux body, that didn't make it a Buckler despite what a newer book than the much criticised book on NZ racing cars says.

Ross Hollings

08-01-2018, 10:15 PM

Yes, I did own it,went to Brisbane area Australia he bought the trailer also,the plan was to keep the trailer and look at buying a Formula Ford,spoilt my plans!Visited the car few years back,he had the motor out ,looked a bit sad,he had also imported a Mistral from NZ and had that there.
Conventiional spaceframe set up with Triumph front suspension etc.When I bought it from the then owner in Siverdale he had it stored in an old chock shed,looked just like a barn find when I went to view it.!!

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08-02-2018, 12:58 AM

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Whilst I was struggling with a fibreglass jigsaw puzzle, Dave Giddens loaned me his second Capri 3 Litre for the Classic Trial. Reading through my diary I see that Geoff Bonham also offered me the MG BGT that I eventually bought from him and returned to me a month or two ago.
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08-02-2018, 08:59 PM

Clive Taylor & Phil Foulkes both consistently quicker in MG Midgets than less highly modified MGBs.
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Given the popularity of Reliant Scimitars, I have always been surprised how few made it to the tracks, especially in the ERC series. Kim's SE5 and Terry's SE4 are the only ones that have appeared.
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Paul Cook's BMW was sold on to Philip Adamson and raced at HD just the once I think, by Mal Clark.
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A bunch of happy ERC drivers
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Dave Giddens #1 Capri
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Paul Wilkinson

08-02-2018, 09:23 PM

There were quite a few Scimitars racing in the early '80s. Of course Dave and Richard then graduated to racing their Marcos's instead and my father started setting himself on fire in a rotary Chevron so that reduced the numbers by three.....

Dad in his Scimitar and then entertaining the crowds in his Chevron....

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08-02-2018, 10:02 PM

Funny you should say that Paul, as not only were Dave and Richard Scimitar and Marcos owners, but also Phil Jackson - who I have never met, but he was restoring a V4 Marcos to an incredibly high standard. Good pics!

Caught up with Dave (& Carole) last month, as they are regulars at MGCC meetings and events - and one of their daughters was best buddies with my wife's daughter. Small world.

Yes, Scimitars were running back in the days of the annual Le Mans team races, so were Lotuses, Daimler SP250's, Morgans, Bucklers etc. and several others we no longer see out on track.

Ross Hollings

08-03-2018, 04:52 AM

Our Scimitar SE4a,owned 1985/88 ,raced it at Pukekohe and Whenuapai,was the ex Ganley car.1St pic out in front of my old school Auckland Grammar.5567155672

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08-03-2018, 08:29 AM

Our Scimitar SE4a,owned 1985/88 ,raced it at Pukekohe and Whenuapai,was the ex Ganley car.1St pic out in front of my old school Auckland Grammar.5567155672

No.. DEL says -I am Reliant on that . A 3 wheeler here Robin. Maybe this is what .. Monseiur Hartley needs - the T -T - T - tyres

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ERC

08-03-2018, 09:08 PM

I may have posted it earlier but the reason 'Reliant' starts with an 'R' is because when Raleigh bicycles, who were making their 3 wheeler, stamped many components with an 'R' for Raleigh. When production ceased, to concentrate on bicycles, previous Raleigh managers involved with the car, bought up all the remaining stock and shifted production from Nottingham to Tamworth, and as the stock was stamped 'R', had to come up with an appropriate name.

Apologies to those who remember my earlier post - and some of these images have been posted before.

Terry's SE4. Could this be the same car as in Ross's post, with the small Union Jack flag on the radiator grille? It isn't in exactly same place, but near enough! Often it is small details like this that help with identification.
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The early reliant 3 wheeler - National Motor Museum, Beaulieu
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Donington
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Curborough - Dave Whitehead's Reliant Kitten. Needs a rescan as the scanner focus was playing up then too.
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The Sabre Six is probably my favourite. Looks nice with wire wheels. Famed UK motorsport photographer Robin Rew ran one but the one pic I have of his at Curborough is a bit fuzzy.

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08-04-2018, 09:35 PM

Back to September 20th 2003 at Pukekohe
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08-05-2018, 10:08 PM

I need to clear a bit of a backlog of all the stuff ready to upload, as when I go away in a little over three weeks time, I will be taking rather a lot of photographs and based on my 2016 solo visit, it took me almost three months just to wade through them all, chuck out the duff ones and repeats, crop, collate and file, let along copy, shrink and upload to TRS. It will probably take even longer this time.

So I may be posting more than once a day.

On my travels, between August 25th and September 9th will be:

Grimsthorpe Speed Trials
Maybe Donington Museum, but not sure about that, given the slimmed down collection of interesting stuff, but I will be in the area.
I was hoping for a return to the Coventry Transport Museum, but that is looking increasingly doubtful - sorry Rhys.
British Heritage Museum at Gaydon.
The Morgan factory
Haynes Sparkford Museum - and hopefully a tour of the restoration workshop.
National Motor Museum at Beaulieu
Goodwood Revival for three days.

A lot of repeats, but I just hope the cameras stand up to it! I have decided to take two DSLR bodies and two lenses (plus the compact), just in case. Spare batteries, SD cards and chargers of course.

Back to 2003...

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ERC grid
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Just before Targa, October.
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Targa competitors approaching the motorway at Papakura.
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08-06-2018, 01:48 AM

Sorry if some aren't as sharp as they should be - blame the scanner for most of them.

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The Grinnall TR8 was previously owned by Rex Alder - driving the Toyota in the post above.
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08-06-2018, 09:04 PM

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Just one more from the Goodwood festival of Speed, 2004
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Fast forward to the Auckland Speed Show, last month. I don't go every year and at $25 each plus car parking, it isn't exactly cheap for the two of us. But, some of the static displays were stunning, especially the customised cars.
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Not too flash from the front, but at the rear...
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ERC

08-07-2018, 02:48 AM

...see what I mean? Check out underneath. I bet that if this went to a VTNZ testing station, it would be over the pit for a lot longer than most and they'd be calling the other staff over to check it out for a 'second' opinion.

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08-07-2018, 09:31 PM

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08-09-2018, 02:31 AM

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Roger Dowding

08-09-2018, 06:03 AM

ERC - you won't believe this going to " Steel / Steal " the Greenwood Corvette photo - have several 1;43 version of his cars both the fairly standard ones and the Wide bodied too !!
Cheers
Roger D

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08-09-2018, 09:58 PM

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08-10-2018, 12:26 AM

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08-10-2018, 09:10 PM

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Auburn replica.
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08-11-2018, 09:22 PM

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08-12-2018, 10:07 PM

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Some say he once drove F1 cars...
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...but we know him as the original 'Black Stig'.
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Replica McLaren
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08-13-2018, 09:47 PM

Last batch from the 2018 CRC Speedshow.

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08-15-2018, 01:13 AM

Where is this heading I wonder?
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Last series before I head away... Caffeine & Classics July.
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Last photograph of my 1998 MGF, now gone to a new home north of Auckland, thanks to a sheet left on the dash as I wandered around.
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Roger Dowding

08-15-2018, 02:46 AM

Ray -yes you were there
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as was Kevin Hirst and his wife from Mangawhai - MX5 done over 300,000km and is a daily driver
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GeeBeez Graeme was there too with his MX5 for sale.
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I must have been there too - we had a brief chat ..This one done 227,000km
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Oops fat fingers "MBF" try " MGF " ..

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08-15-2018, 08:45 PM

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The latest 'must have' accessory for Auckland motorists...
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08-16-2018, 01:53 AM

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08-17-2018, 08:49 PM

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08-19-2018, 08:32 PM

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Ex Christchurch car. Needs a bit of tidying but the new owner was more than happy with it.
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As these were designed and built as 'Nash Metropolitans' for the American market, but also sold locally as 'Austin Metropolitans', would I be correct in assuming that Nash would be left hand drive and Austins right hand drive?
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Long shadows early in the morning.
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08-20-2018, 10:14 PM

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08-21-2018, 01:34 AM

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08-21-2018, 09:04 PM

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nigel watts

08-24-2018, 08:17 AM

I see that Caffeine & Classics are now saying that they only want classics which are at least 30 years old as they are running out of room. Makes sense.

http://www.themotorhood.com/themotorhood/2018/8/22/classics-only-please-caffeine-and-classics-new-30-year-rule

John McKechnie

08-24-2018, 09:17 AM

Now , is that the individual car or the model period - Example is pre 65 class where all the Mustangs are 1966

nigel watts

08-24-2018, 09:00 PM

I would presume that they want any car of 1988 vintage or older so no problem if 4 1967 Ferrari P4's arrive!

ERC

08-27-2018, 04:47 AM

Given that up until now, people just rolled up, will there be someone on the 'gate'?

Was at Grimsthorpe Castle Speed Trials yesterday, for prewar cars and bikes plus a few display cars. How come that UK has had a great summer, but it was down to between 12 - 15 degrees - and raining from about 10am?

...and the link between these first two is?
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Oldfart

08-27-2018, 09:53 AM

Repco heritage?

khyndart in CA

08-27-2018, 06:04 PM

Raymond Mays with BRM and a Raymond Mays cylinder head conversion.

I notice that is a BRM driven by Howden Ganley.

I met up with Howden at Laguna Seca last weekend and we had a chat about working at Trojan Works etc.

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ERC

08-27-2018, 10:03 PM

Well done Ken!

That might be the BRM that Howden DIDN'T drive according to a recent piece by him, but as there were no details of which chassis, who knows. It rained not long afterwards and the car was covered so I was lucky there.

ERC

08-29-2018, 08:22 AM

Oh dear. Handed over my ten quid - somewhat reluctantly I might add - for Donington Museum. Having been a regular visitor since it opened in the mid 1970's. I left with a very heavy heart indeed.

For years, I have suggested that kiwis and other overseas visitors should make a point of visiting. Unless you are a devout McLaren, Williams or Force India fan, and maybe interested in Vanwalls and BRMs, what what was a 100% interesting museum, has now dropped to probably 25% of what it was.

Out of the five halls, two are for Kevin's military vehicles, (not for me) one hall is mainly McLaren, one mainly Williams and other modern F1 cars, leaving just one hall of slightly older single seaters - and even that is padded out with a Lotus Elan, MG and a 1927 Salmson...

So many cars gone and just 1 Lotus, 1 Ferrari no Coopers at all. Also gone, the Derby Maserati, Tec Mec, F500's, Ferguson, Porsches, one of the V16 BRM's - even the P25 BRM wasn't there, Cisitalia gone and the list goes on, and on.

So sad. Military and F1 or single seaters is not a good mix.

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Dale Harvey

08-29-2018, 04:09 PM

Oldfart

08-29-2018, 08:15 PM

I could say "I told you so" Ray. It's gutting isn't it. A shadow of it's former self.

Roger Dowding

08-29-2018, 09:29 PM

From your photos Ray - I am puzzled - English ?? with SU's looks like a Triumph but the body looks Sunbeam !!

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ERC

08-30-2018, 07:48 AM

Raymond Mays cylinder head on a Mk2 Ford Zephyr Ken (whoops, edited to Roger...).

Trojan 101 and 103 were in Donington and will post photos in the coming weeks no doubt.

Thankfully, the Goodwood entry does have plenty of cars that weren't there in 2016 so I'm happy that there will be a lot of additions to my photographic library.

Had a sad email from Alan Horner (who is in GB) and was expecting to do the whole 3 days of Goodwood but has done his back in, so if anyone knows of anyone in the UK wanting to purchase tickets at face value... Saturday tickets sold out weeks ago.

khyndart in CA

08-30-2018, 07:04 PM

Geez Ray,
I would have loved to spend those days at Goodwood with you..oh well, another time perhaps.
If you see Patrick Head there do not show him any of your Trojan T101-103 photos as I think that was a time in his life he would rather forget ! But if you do have a chance, remind him that he still owes me for the petrol for the Morris Minor on our trip from Croydon to Silverstone return, July 1973 !
Safe travels, looking forward to your photos etc..
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(Hyndman & Patrick Head at Williams headquarters, Grove, Wantage. Oxfordshire, England. June 1996. )
This was when Williams was at their peak winning 12 of the 16 F 1 races that season with the FW 18 powered by a 3.0 Renault V-10 engine. Drivers; Damon Hill and Jacques Villeneuve
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Roger Dowding

08-31-2018, 06:19 AM

From your photos Ray - I am puzzled - English ?? with SU's looks like a Triumph but the body looks Sunbeam !!

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Re ; Raymond Mays cylinder head on a Mk2 Ford Zephyr Ken. [ make that Roger ]

Thanks Ray - why i didn't pick that up before was thinking Sports Car I guess

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08-31-2018, 03:29 PM

Apologies Roger... Can I blame jet lag, or advanced senility - or both?

Here you are Roger - and another car with a link...

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Roger Dowding

09-02-2018, 04:24 AM

Apologies Roger... Can I blame jet lag, or advanced senility - or both?

Here you are Roger - and another car with a link...

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Ray, thanks - A mate of mine had a Mark 11 Zodiac in the early 1970's - he lived in the Waikato - near Ken H at Walton - his had the Raymond Mays Head but think the carburettor was a twin choke Weber a down-draft from memory. his was an Auto I seem to think.

ERC

09-12-2018, 04:11 AM

Heading home - just for two days, then away again and a mountain of stuff to wade through.

A taster for the regulars, from Goodwood

1) Roger:

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2) Spgeti:

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3) For others who like rare (although a recreation - Lancia D50 - announcing its failure, not to be seen on track again and quirky. (Keift with a prototype Coventry Climax engine which sounded fantastic too.

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4) For the Brits

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5) For the Porsche brigade

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6) And for the odd few who are into Americana

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Spgeti

09-12-2018, 05:00 AM

Hi Ray, hope you enjoyed yourself over there.

The Lancia of that model is one of my favourite Italian cars.

Cheers
Bruce

ERC

09-12-2018, 01:48 PM

Interesting Spgeti, but in the two weeks in the UK, I saw just one Marcos (in a museum) but several Lancia Aurelias.

Even more surprising, more Facel Vegas (French, not Italian of course). One in a museum. One on the open road two days before Goodwood; the Rob Walker Facel Vega in the tribute parade and three more in the pre '66 car park at Goodwood.

At six picture posts a time, it will be a while before I have posted the pic of the crop(ped) on here.

Roger Dowding

09-13-2018, 04:57 AM

Interesting Spgeti, but in the two weeks in the UK, I saw just one Marcos (in a museum) but several Lancia Aurelias.

Even more surprising, more Facel Vegas (French, not Italian of course). One in a museum. One on the open road two days before Goodwood, the Rob walker Facel Vega in the tribute parade and two more in the pre '66 car park at Goodwood.

At six picture posts a time, it will be a while before I have posted the pic of the crop(ped) on here.

Ray, Thanks for the " personal " pictures, and Bruce enjoyed his too !!
The AH 100 has quite a history - I hope you have more photos of it.

Cheers, Roger D.

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09-14-2018, 08:11 PM

Plenty to come Roger... However, I seem to have a (owner?) problem with the camera focus point moving. I need to have another read of the manual, as I unfortunately have to ditch what would have been excellent pics, as although I have it set for a single point focus, that point seems to move around at will, so I have several (far too many!) with in focus backgrounds but the subject is a bit fuzzy. Very frustrating. Difficult to tell at the time without wearing glasses and expanding the pic. The net result is a load of duff ones.

Pity, as watching the cars four wheel drift through Madgwick with the sun in exactly the right place is a dream position.

Examples:

Duff
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There are always cars I have never seen before, such as this Lightning Envoyette-Ford, Formula Junior
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I'm out of date order here so might revert to the correct sequence...

Spgeti

09-14-2018, 08:29 PM

Love those Austin’s Ray...

ERC

09-15-2018, 02:35 AM

They sounded superb too! The green one on the left is I believe the ex Jack Sears' car. They were celebrating the first touring car season of 1958. Jack Sears famously won it after an equal points race off, in Riley 1.5s... Can't see that happening today.

Probably because the only saloons in 2016 were Austin A30s/A35s, this year, the St Mary's Trophy race and the Jack Sear's race were right up my street - and some new pictures for the library.

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This is the original prototype Ford GT40.
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Back to Grimsthorpe, August 26th. (Amilcar)
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One for Oldfart.
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One for Ken. Trojan 101 at Donington
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Goodwood. One of the two Alta's racing
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That is it for now as I am off overseas again for a week, this time with my lovely wife, who very kindly allowed me to go to the UK without her.

Spgeti

09-15-2018, 04:27 AM

khyndart in CA

09-15-2018, 04:28 AM

Thanks Ray,
Where else but at Brands Hatch in 1973 could you find :
" The Trojan slips through on the inside as it enters Bottom Bend !"
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A fond memory of John Watson at work in the Hexagon of Highgate Trojan T101. # 44

Ken H

ERC

09-15-2018, 05:40 AM

Yes they were really a wolf in sheeps clothing. They sound awesome as when I stated work in Whangarei one of the mechanical apprentices had a hot A90.
Sad that the Riley 1.5 of Arthur’s went down south.
I presume you mean the ex-Jimmy C Wolseley Bruce?

The Sears 1958 cars were fantastic to watch at Goodwood and they didn't sound very standard at all! Personally, bog standard cars of that vintage aren't very appealing and although limiting modifications may keep costs down, purely from a spectator viewpoint, bog standard cars don't sound right or look right on a race track especially of that vintage.

The Hooter's series in NZ appears to be little more than a classic trial and maybe they need a class for period modified and a class for standard? Those 3 big Austins were very impressive on the track, as were several other cars, including the noisiest MG Magnette I have ever heard. Using cross ply tyres, there were many examples of four wheel drifts across several classes.

Plenty of pics now to be posted over the next few months but getting RSI from several long sessions of mouse work - not housework.

Incidentally Ken, Hexagon of Highgate actually built my Marcos! I have copies of the original build paperwork.

Spgeti

09-15-2018, 08:20 AM

Yes I do mean Jimmy’s Wolseley.

I really love that era.

ERC

09-15-2018, 08:24 PM

Up early so a bit of time to upload a couple more…

Grimsthorpe Castle again - Raymond Mays.
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Goodwood - Ferrari - subject of an article in one of the British car magazines last year.
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Part of the tribute to Rob Walker parade. Apparently he was managing the Surtees team.
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Note the attire. Rob was famously a gentleman who drove in a lounge suit and word has it that at Le Mans, he came in to change into an evening suit...
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Kevin Hirst

09-16-2018, 07:00 PM

Oldfart

09-16-2018, 08:11 PM

Kevin Hirst, I'll bet your engine downporting was more clever than TOL!

Kevin Hirst

09-16-2018, 08:38 PM

Kevin Hirst, I'll bet your engine downporting was more clever than TOL!

Would love to have one of those 12port heads the healey's had in those days but way beyond budget.

ERC

09-24-2018, 02:32 AM

Now back in NZ with the pile of pics taken in the UK so far whittled down to just over 3,000... Still cropping and deleting before moving on to deleting duplicates. Just a few more from Goodwood to be going on with.

The lighter green of the 2 Altas was one of the stars of the Goodwood trophy, finishing in 3rd place.
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I wonder which of the above may well have been taken by dad at Donington in 1939? (Posted previously) Judging by the seating position and maybe the mirrors, it looks more like the dark green one, even though the colour in the black and white pic looks as though it was light green, but the wheels are smaller - a common complaint about several of today's 1930's cars is the wheel size not being original.
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Alvis Goodwin Special
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This Scarab (one of two) failed in practice, so the intrepid owners shot back to Nottingham for their Cooper Bristol!
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The Lancia D50 (a re-creation - although not noted as such) also failed to start the race, seen here at the end of its practice.
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This Frazer Nash survived but the other Frazer Nash was another race non-starter.
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ERC

09-25-2018, 02:33 AM

Another mix...

Grimsthorpe
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Gaydon. Triumph Lynx. Just one of the many prototypes at Gaydon.
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Goodwood - parade of past winners - much appreciated. Lotus Bristol
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MG Magnette
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The somewhat short of leg Sir Jackie Stewart struggled to reach the pedals of the Eagle Weslake, given that creator Dan Gurney was a six footer. The Eagle was demonstrated the day before by Derek Bell. Bit of a waste when only one car is on the track...
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Cooper Jaguar. Love the 1950's sports racing cars.
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ERC

09-25-2018, 10:04 PM

Close racing can sometimes lead to...
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...a dinged E type Jaguar, one of the famous ex Dick Protheroe CUT 7's.
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One for the Buckler fans
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I could easily have spent a whole day in the pre 1966 car park
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Another for Spgeti
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NOT a Costin Lister Jaguar, a Tojeiro Jaguar
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Spgeti

09-25-2018, 10:53 PM

Thanks Ray, I was fortunate enough a few years ago to go for a ride around Manfeild in the 212 owned by Warren....
Something that I will never forget.

Cheers

ERC

09-26-2018, 01:44 AM

Grimsthorpe Castle Speed Trials, August 26th. The north midland's version of the Goodwood Festival of Speed it isn't - and never will be on several counts, but an entry of 50 cars and 50 motorbikes made for some interesting vehicles, if nothing else. Sadly, the weather wasn't kind. Viewing of the actual track was distant and appeared to be just one straight plus a long right hander, with spectators penned past the finishing line anyway.

It may become an annual event but at this stage, I wouldn't exactly be promoting it as a 'must attend' unless you are in the Lincolnshire area. A $40NZ (20 pounds) entry fee was a bit steep for what it was.

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Roger Dowding

09-26-2018, 05:23 AM

The Salmson - and ... in the background a Healey, thanks Ray ..spotted !!

ERC

09-27-2018, 01:39 AM

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ERC

09-27-2018, 08:57 PM

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Raymond Mays - first one I had seen.
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Cambridge Special
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BSA
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ERC

09-27-2018, 09:45 PM

BSA
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Pick - no, I hadn't heard of it either...
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Nor had I heard of a Scat
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Nor a Brasier. Brassiere, yes, but not Brasier...
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Singer
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Ford
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khyndart in CA

09-27-2018, 10:58 PM

So Ray,
As the Ford is LHD does that mean it was an import ?
What year is it ?
I would not want to stay out too late at night in that machine with that headlight to guide me home !

(Ken H )

ERC

09-28-2018, 03:09 AM

Sorry Ken. No extra info, but as it is sans mudguards, I have filed it as a USA racer.

Oldfart

09-28-2018, 05:37 AM

In regard the Ford, I would guess at relatively recent import. It seems that "BF" plates have been assigned as "age related" to quite a few cars of around that period. (My 23 Peugeot has one, so does the Peugeot Quadrilette further up the age.).
It stays light till after pub kick out time during the summer. It would be a great pub run car, maybe not, too much attention :)

Seeing as how "cars I hadn't heard of came up, how about a "Moline"?

ERC

09-28-2018, 08:31 PM

Another I hadn't heard of Rhys - but look at the 100's of makers that have fallen by the wayside just from the UK alone, let alone from Europe and the USA and it is no wonder.

Not competing, but in the classic car park.
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Another 'La France'. The NZ based car looks to be in the same sort of unmolested, unrestored condition in the same fetching shade of brown.
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Those who know their UK number plates will note that the next two have Scottish registrations, so whether they are original or reissues, who knows?
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Somewhat surprising to find that the printed programme (12 pages including covers) had no editorial whatever and no list of key personnel. www.speedtrials.co.nz

ERC

09-28-2018, 09:55 PM

Last batch, at the moment, from Grimsthorpe, with organiser Richard Powell

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...and the commentator. Sure is/was (much) better looking than JT...
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Bye for now, from Grimsthorpe, near Bourne in Lincolnshire.
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Milan Fistonic

09-28-2018, 10:59 PM

Another 'La France'. The NZ based car looks to be in the same sort of unmolested, unrestored condition in the same fetching shade of brown.
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The New Zealand car at Paeroa a couple of weeks ago.

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Roger Dowding

09-29-2018, 01:02 AM

The New Zealand car at Paeroa a couple of weeks ago.

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Great Car and Good News ...
.... Milan you are back posting, Great. ....
Cheers Roger D

ERC

10-01-2018, 12:10 AM

Caffeine & Classics was another huge turnout yesterday thanks to the good weather and an ever growing number of followers. Plenty of post 1990 cars still there though and as always, a few cars we hadn't seen before.

But, back to the UK... Donington Museum. As mentioned earlier, not what it was, particularly in terms of older single seaters.

Mercedes re-creation
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Cosworth 4WD
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Another Trojan... This is 102. You can see the remainder of that side of the hall, beyond the Trojan, leading to the Force India cars has a few more from the recent era, where I suspect many are now just on loan. In the past, one offs such as the Cosworth and Ferguson and many other low volume manufacturers were the highlights, as every car had character. I won't list all the cars that have disappeared as it just makes me more depressed that the museum is no longer the 'must visit' it once was.
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Stewart
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...to Jaguar R2
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and R3
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Roger Dowding

10-01-2018, 04:48 AM

Ray ; Re :" Caffeine & Classics was another huge turnout yesterday thanks to the good weather and an ever growing number of followers. Plenty of post 1990 cars still there though and as always, a few cars we hadn't seen before. "
Looks like I can bring the 1991 MX5 - almost 30 years old and with the driver at 71 the total is 98 !! :confused:

John Vevers took a heap of photos and posted the BMC / BL ones on the BLENZ facebook page ; :cool:

Kevin Hirst

10-01-2018, 08:05 PM

Roger Dowding

10-01-2018, 09:29 PM

Kevin, won't get to October C and C we are in Auckland a week or so earlier, but hope to make November - will see.
Did get to the Greerton Blossom Festival car show - mainly American Hot Rods and Customs - and my Bl**dy photo sorter won't resize the photos, may have to re - import them to my Computer and start again ..
Cheers

ERC

10-01-2018, 09:31 PM

Spyker
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At last, an interesting car...
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ERC

10-01-2018, 09:35 PM

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Too samey... unless you are a McLaren or Williams anorak.
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RuSport...
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At least the Vanwall collection hasn't been broken up - yet.

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Kevin Hirst

10-01-2018, 10:02 PM

ERC

10-02-2018, 02:09 AM

A dose of the hiccups Kevin? #2441 & #2445!

The last F1 Brabham, as driven by Damon Hill.
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Quite why this and an old MG were in amongst the single seaters I can't quite work out. Maybe it is time for the Donington Museum to reinvent itself - but from my perspective, preferably without Kevin's WW2 military stuff.
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Ah, a real racing car!
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And this little Austin was consigned to the paddock café. The main museum café was closed.
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ERC

10-02-2018, 10:11 PM

There were one or two notable BRMs absent since my last visit too, including the P25 and the pale green V16, the P160 and the 4WD. I hope they haven't also gone and are merely in the workshops or with Hall & Hall but it was a large chunk from what was the only complete collection of BRM's anywhere.

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A Lotus Elan BRM wasn't exactly a fair substitute - note also the AC in the background, so a total of 4 sports cars.
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ERC

10-03-2018, 09:07 AM

Just found out that (ex Marcos racer!) Dr Jonathon Palmer's company is taking over the running of the Donington Museum at the end of the year. Let's just hope he can restore it to something like its former glory.

Maybe he can persuade Bernie Ecclestone to loan some of his collection - that really would be well worth a visit.

ERC

10-03-2018, 09:37 PM

Next car related stop after Donington, was the British Heritage Museum at Gaydon, formerly the British Leyland museum, many years ago, when at Syon Park and home back then, as now, for many BL prototypes.

Since the shift to Gaydon, it has been renamed and expanded to cover other British makes, but as yet, I still haven't finished filing all the pics, but I did publish many from the museum a couple of years ago, so these will just be extras and will include several cars I photographed before.

Atco - better known in the UK as manufacturers of lawn mowers...
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Wolseley engine - yes, a straight 8.
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Not sure, but could be a Morris engine.
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Rover-BRM cockpit. Note - no cage but a modern fire extinguisher.
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Jaguar models
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ERC

10-03-2018, 10:24 PM

Just for a break, (I'm hungry...) a quick post on some food related images from the trip.

Grimsthorpe Castle - the local meat products are amongst the best in the country and a bacon buttie first thing was a good start.
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Motorway stops in the UK have improved considerably since the appalling stuff offered from 1959. Harry Ramsden's is best known as a fish and chip franchise, but I thought it somewhat ironic that they had a good continuous queue for their traditional British Breakfast - but the so called healthy option next door, didn't. HR's was quite a good breakfast too.
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Goodwood 'across the road' has a huge range of food outlets and this is one I didn't sample.
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But this is one I started at, on two of the three days. Excellent cheese on toast and a cup of coffee was just what I needed - and the next person on the queue was Kiwi... (Note the standard of dress.)

Simple tasty food - and an opportunity in NZ I am sure. Just the one option offered. Two slices of cooked to order toast per portion, topped with Cheddar and Parmesan - and the coffee was OK too - with two delightful young ladies doing the serving.
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The other good stop, just behind Woodcote corner was the very tasty steak and ale pie, with mash and mushy peas - washed down with a local cider.
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My favourite fish and chip outlet wasn't there this year and one that was, apparently caught fire on the Thursday...

Other good food was the Station café behind the start and finish stand with a superb toasted meatball sub and a stall selling fairly good Thai curry. Needless to say, prices are a bit on the high side, as is the case with any event of this nature.

ERC

10-04-2018, 10:24 PM

Back to Gaydon...
The 4WD Austin Ant
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Austin Moke+
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...another engine.
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Alvis
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Marauder
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ERC

10-05-2018, 03:43 AM

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Doretti
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Austin Zanda
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Another one new to me - Stellite
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Albion - better known for trucks and buses
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Another for Roger to steal...
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I moved one or two of the sign boards with the approval of the staff, before taking photographs.

Tomorrow, Pukekohe to keep the ERC guys in check - which shouldn't be too demanding given the low entry. That also means a limited number of potential photographs - especially as Pukekohe is not really very camera friendly these days, but a fair stack now in reserve, ready to post - and the pile is growing as I continue to wade through the UK stuff. Also away again later on next week and will miss the HD meeting.

rf84

10-05-2018, 09:17 AM

Heard once that at least one twin engined Moke ended up on Stewart Island. Can anyone verify this?

Kwaussie

10-05-2018, 12:12 PM

Heard once that at least one twin engined Moke ended up on Stewart Island. Can anyone verify this?

Can remember that someone wrote on a thread here about a twin engined Moke that PH Vickery Ltd had in Invercargill and ended up on SI. Vickery's were a sporty mob as they had an Austin Healy 100S that was raced by B. Giller back when it was new.

ERC

10-06-2018, 11:10 AM

A quick skip forward to Pukekohe today.

Gemini's - not identical twins.
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Good to see Kelly Archer back on track.
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Beautiful - and sounded great too.
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One of the best battles of the day. (The ex Halliday Escort is now owned by Dennis McConnell.)
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Tony's Alfasud suffered some sort of drive failure making it difficult to push up the ramps into the trailer, even with several fit, strong young men assisting...
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ERC

10-06-2018, 09:32 PM

Back to Gaydon.
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ERC

10-07-2018, 09:54 PM

Issigonis Lightweight Special
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Austin
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John McKechnie

10-07-2018, 10:02 PM

Aston Martin Shooting Brake ?

ERC

10-07-2018, 10:04 PM

Allard John.

Roger Dowding

10-07-2018, 10:37 PM

Allard John.

A nice piece of Kit too !!
- and speaking of Allards - a recent " Octane " magazine [ Sept 2018 ] has an article on a "continuation Allardette " [ Ford Anglia ] with a Shorrock Supercharger and other mods 80bhp - created by Sidney's son Allan Allard as a Monte Carlo Rally Car - complete with Rally Plates and extra lights.

ERC

10-08-2018, 01:06 AM

I'm 40 issues behind on my car magazine reading... The pile started in 2011 with the first 3 months cruising and despite knocking two magazines on the head (NZCC and Classic & Thoroughbred), I haven't managed to keep up with it.

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The upstairs exhibition area is currently devoted to cars restored by one of the TV programmes.
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Meanwhile, over in the 'warehouse' area, away from the main hall, there are many cars of interest plus the Jaguar collection. I posted photographs of my 2016 visit, so apologies for repeats.
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ERC

10-08-2018, 09:19 PM

A row of Bentley engines
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Those 'Safety Research Vehicles' sure were ugly...
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Triumph prototypes
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The original 'Land Crab' Austin 1800. (Named from a helicopter shot when on the rally and the commentator said that from above - due to its proportions - 'it looks like a land crab scuttling across the landscape'.)
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Rover Meteor
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ERC

10-08-2018, 09:59 PM

Not the last of the Gaydon pics, but last group for now.

The first MG
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Chaindrive would be impressed with some of the models on display, but always of interest were the models of prototypes.
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Another Rover
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This FWD Alvis was down in the workshop
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as was this MG Metro
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ERC

10-09-2018, 09:16 PM

Next stop after Gaydon was Malvern, the Morgan factory tour. Highly recommended as it is the polar opposite of visiting the Mini factory which I did in 2016. Mini is all about robots and technicians, whilst Morgan is all about real craftsmen plying their trade with hand tools. Mini, you can't take photographs. Morgan, no restrictions. I enjoyed both visits - but there again, I'm very much a shop floor person.

A two hour tour, with almost one hour of it devoted to an intro and a visit to the Morgan museum - all on site of course. There is also a decent café and a very good shop, selling all sorts of Morgan gear, from clothing to branded clotted cream shortbread.

Judging by the number of people doing the tours, Morgan are probably doing quite well out of it - and rightly so.

The current Morgan 3 wheeler is a runaway best seller. Original was shown as a bit of a laugh at a motorshow, they thought that maybe tops, they'd sell 200 of them. They took 200 orders at that show and have now manufactured over 2,500 of them!

Very popular amongst ex-motorcyclists and fascinating to hear that if you wear a crash helmet, it is classed as a motorbike, and don't need a seat belt. If you do wear the seat belt and don't wear a crash helmet, it is classed as a car... Even more strange is that the US spec three wheelers (and they are very popular over there), the headlamps are mounted inboard (local regulation) and the UK spec is outboard. Once purchased, most US customers simply relocate the lamps outboard as the factory very thoughtfully still fit the UK spec lamp brackets.
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From the most popular to the rarest of all Morgans.
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There is also a story about the last of the four seater Morgans, regarding seat belt regulations
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Obviously, Jeremy Clarkson's quip about the Morgan looking like Clarence, the cross eyed lion hit home
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...because they relocated the headlamps.
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The tour leader tried to catch us out by testing us on our model spotting, noting that the V8 has a wider front panel but I was ready for this one, as I knew that the very early V8's, including Chris Fraser's Morgan in NZ, weren't wide bodied at all, ditto this famous competition car.
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ERC

10-10-2018, 12:41 AM

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Attached to the shop is another small museum downstairs.
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The first part of the tour is a talk and a short film in a small theatre, with one two cars around
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That BMW V8 is a fair sized lump! Not sure what the replacement engine is going to be.
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Aero Morgan chassis is aluminium and built off site
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*Away again now for a few days...

Oldfart

10-10-2018, 07:50 PM

Thought this might be of interest Ray. A world famous collection of Grand Prix cars old and new is to close ‘imminently’, its owner announced today.

The massive collection, which is housed in a museum at the Donington Park racetrack, in North West Leicestershire, dates back 45 years.

The owners have not given a specific reason for the decision to close it, but say it has not been taken lightly.

The collection, which also includes a number of motorcycles, was amassed by Leicestershire builder Tom Wheatcroft.

khyndart in CA

10-10-2018, 08:14 PM

That is sad news Rhys,
A visit there was on my English "Bucket List"

Ken H

Michael Clark

10-11-2018, 09:12 AM

I went in 1983 and was very impressed but went back in 2003 and was already seeing a decline in standards - often poor descriptions of the cars and although it had expanded over the 20 years, most of the new exhibits were from those once great F1 teams called McLaren and Williams...

I have heard the decline has continued through both a number of cars having been sold, and the introduction of display items other than cars. Overall, probably not a surprise - Ken, the time to visit was probably 30-35 years ago!

ERC

10-11-2018, 11:20 AM

I had also heard via a Donington Facebook page that Dr Jonathon Palmer was taking over the museum from the end of the year. So is it closing and are the assets (the cars) being sold off in job lots via an auction, or is Dr Palmer taking over the museum and its current assets?

Who knows?

Totally agree with Michael. The time to visit was from the opening in 1976 and for the next few years. Thankfully, I was able to visit many times in those early years and I just hope that the remaining cars (other than as Michael pointed out, the modern McLaren, Williams and Force India cars) are not dispersed. It is crucial that the Vanwall and BRM collections are not split.

The museum is still in an excellent location, situated as it is, within the Donington estate, so hopefully, it will continue as a genuine motorsports museum, as it is easily accessible from the M1 motorway and an easy diversion for travellers heading north. It just needed reinventing or more cars on loan, but I do believe that Kevin's military collection killed it.

ERC

10-14-2018, 10:10 PM

Non Aero Morgans still have a steel chassis (I believe, also made off site).
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The body frames are still made of ash - which used to come from Holland but is now from Lincolnshire.
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A mix of hand made panels and pressed panels are then attached.
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This jig for the curved, laminated pieces has been used for over 60 years.
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The Boss's Morgan...
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ERC

10-14-2018, 10:19 PM

The best selling 3 wheelers also have a similar construction method. Wooden frame on a steel chassis.
(Drat. Pics disappeared again... Reloaded 1:30pm.)

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...and a made to order trim colour specification.
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Leaving my AirBnb in Nottingham Tuesday September 4th, with a pleasant day at Gaydon and the Morgan factory tour tucked under my belt, a night at the new Premier Inn Malvern (recommended) was next, but finding an eatery that appealed wasn't so easy, as I didn't want to wait an hour for a meal on site.

Eventually, after a fair drive around, a Wetherspoon's (Foley Arms) in the Malvern Hills but local paid public parking in the evening was still required, with no change given, from the pay and display machine... One of the things that does annoy me is paying for parking in the evenings when it isn't too busy.

ERC

10-15-2018, 09:56 PM

The following day I headed south to the Haynes motor Museum at Sparkford. This isn't too far away from London for anyone thinking of visiting as it is at the eastern end of the Devon border. Another return visit. I enjoyed it the first time and I enjoyed it again, but this time, I had prearranged a tour of the restoration workshop.

Walking around to the rear of the site, to the workshop, I heard the unmistakeable noise of a classic car coming up behind me and what appeared was this ex-Bira, Rob Walker Delahaye, being prepared for the Goodwood Revival, Rob Walker tribute. The driver was my contact, the workshop manager.
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Healey for Rog tucked away in the MoT workshop...
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Due to privacy issues, I wasn't allowed to take photographs inside the workshop, (they were working on a very tatty Maserati for a client!) but it was interesting to see in one building, many cars stacked on racks, either awaiting restoration or reserves for the collection.

The manager's assistant is a Kiwi...

On the way back to the front of the museum, was this sad looking Porsche.
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The entrance area has a few cars on display including this Dodge.
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Like several museums, there were one or two pedal cars, including this Vauxhall.
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Daimler - still with the fluted grill.
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ERC

10-16-2018, 01:12 AM

From the now famous Red Hall.

Marendaz
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Facel Vega - the first of the trip.
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MGC - and the only Marcos I saw on the whole trip.
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XKSS Replica - with shielded exhausts!
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ERC

10-16-2018, 09:47 PM

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This MG I know well as it is an ex Nottingham car. The talented guy who restored it many years ago was born with a defect on both hands, from memory, he was missing a section on all fingers. Not only did this particular car win several concours but Barry also restored a later MG and had a hand in building a fully rally prepared Cooper S I bought from his boss. Somewhere I have a photograph taken in his garage which, I must scan.
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ERC

10-18-2018, 01:07 AM

Briefly, back to June 1981... Not the sharpest of slides, or maybe that scanner is playing up again.
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Part of an impressive model display of cars driven by Stirling Moss throughout his career. Bearing in mind he was only really active in motorsport for 14 years, a tremendous legacy.
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A more recent creation - the Manchester Special.
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Is this a Peugeot?
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ERC

10-18-2018, 03:26 AM

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Another superb model
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Stearns-Knight - but I'm sure most of you knew that...
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Avoid petrol charges. Go back to a Stanley Steamer.
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ERC

10-18-2018, 09:32 PM

A box of Red Bull...
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Star
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Not the sort of Trojan we'd normally associate with Ken...
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A last glance at the Red Room before moving on. Next day, was Beaulieu - another return visit, mainly because I was passing it on the way from Bournemouth to my 4 nights at the budget Ibis at Portsmouth, for Goodwood.
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Needless to say, the pics shown are just samples of the 1,000's taken over the trip.

ERC

10-19-2018, 02:27 AM

Forgot these two from Sparkford… (There are a load more Jaguar pics from Gaydon too.)
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On to Beaulieu.
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ERC

10-19-2018, 10:08 PM

Back a couple of days... Gaydon
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This Riley was part of a group visiting the museum. Not the first time I have come across a group of Riley enthusiasts touring.
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Sparkford again.
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ACE motorcycle at Beaulieu
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An Allard dragster.
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ERC

10-20-2018, 08:38 AM

Onto the Goodwood Revival.

The Beaulieu BRM V16 was just a static exhibit, but good to see it anyway. Reminiscent of the 1950 appeal for funds, nothing much has changed, so there was a collecting bin there for donations to carry on with the restoration. Yes, I donated rather more than the 5/- my dad did...
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If you were feeling even more generous, you could purchase one of these.
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Normally, I dive into the paddock area first thing in the morning (7:30am when the gates open!) and snap away before the crowds make it impossible. However, I normally post in chronological order, but this time, I may just skip around a bit in a totally random fashion, just to maintain interest.

Yes, a steam locomotive! Part of the theme was 'British Transport' and that included British Rail, taxis, police cars, motorbikes, commercial vehicles and buses.
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No seat belts here and no-one was injured!
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ERC

10-20-2018, 09:11 PM

A batch for Spgeti
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This was on a stand promoting 3D scanning. Very interesting too, as they gave me a personal demo.
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Sadly, this Iso Bizzarini finished the weekend somewhat battered, on the exit to Madgwick. That's twice in two visits that one of these has come unstuck. Sadder still that on both occasions, they were the lone examples racing, unlike say AC Cobras.
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Spgeti

10-20-2018, 10:57 PM

Stunning, I love the Fiat 1100 and the Alfa Giulietta Saloons. Thanks Ray.

ERC

10-21-2018, 10:14 AM

Kevin Wheatcroft's personal statement further to the October 10 press release announcing permanent closure of The Donington Grand Prix Collection as of 5pm, Monday, November 5, 2018

"As the wider motor racing public will know, Motor Sport Vision (MSV), took over operation of Donington Park last year year while I retained the freehold. We have kept the museum open for one more season and there was a possibility that it might have stayed open under the control of MSV. They have considered this option, but it does not fit their business plan - and the decision was then made to close the museum.

“Its exhibits will go into storage until my family and I have considered their future. This applies not only to the Formula 1 cars which have occupied this building for over 45 years, but also 'The Wheatcroft Collection', a unique array of World War 2 armour and military vehicles which has been a stablemate to the Grand Prix Collection for 10 years.

“On a personal note, I have been associated with these historic machines all my adult life, having helped my late father to locate many of them, and it has been a privilege to help create and operate both one of Leicestershire's greatest attractions, and a piece of world motor sport history."

ERC

10-21-2018, 09:04 PM

From the above statement, it appears to me that Kevin still sets a higher store on his 'unique' military collection than on the cars... A very sad press release.

I can't help thinking that MSV have missed a commercial opportunity here and by not keeping the museum, may even adversely affect the numbers visiting the track. The more there is to do at a track, especially on non race days, the better, something that at least TQ understands.

A museum, café, go kart track and something for the kids are ways to get more people to a venue.

I can't help feeling that these days, less and less consideration is given to paying visitors and what they want and need.

ERC

10-22-2018, 04:12 AM

Back to Goodwood.
The JBW Maserati which I remember well from Mallory Park race programmes, but I'm sure I hadn't seen it on track before Monaco 2012.
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Who said the British didn't make classy utes?
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The inner car park for GRRC members usually has a good mix of cars and is conveniently situated on the Lavant Straight
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This was in the transport parade and is a replica of the George Formby bike as used in the film.
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1937 MG Bellvue Special. Sadly, it failed in practice and didn't race on the Saturday.
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ATS
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John McKechnie

10-22-2018, 06:48 AM

Nice two tone EIPC

Bruce302

10-22-2018, 09:06 AM

Fabulous pics Ray, Thank you.

Ray Bell

10-22-2018, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by ERC
A batch for Spgeti
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You call that a racing Fiat 1100?

This is a racing Fiat 1100!

https://i.postimg.cc/bwds510t/1018frboxbrownie-Fiat1100southport.jpg

Oldfart

10-22-2018, 06:12 PM

Did you get to talk with the guy who has the "Shuttleworth" Ray? What a character and so very very amusing.

ERC

10-22-2018, 09:04 PM

No I didn't Rhys - unfortunately. As one who has always had a fondness for banjos of any sort, from the tenor banjo in a jazz band, to the 5 string for bluegrass and country music to the (Formby) banjolele and 8 string mandolin banjo. Graeme Hardy, the Shuttleworth rider, who apparently did a good job of impersonating Formby, plays!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JmW3aEb31A

Incidentally, the bike was based on a Triumph.

Ray - that Fiat probably wouldn't get a CoD in NZ or be allowed to run at Manfeild as it doesn't have a front bumper...

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One of my favourites. The Lister Sunbeam Tiger.
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Oldfart

10-23-2018, 02:58 AM

Thanks for the one of the Hibberd Buckler Ray,can I post to Buckler page with your credit (before Roger gets there :) ) The guy with the Formby replica has a most unfortunate face, but makes the very most of it. He set up a wonderful tribute at the Bicetster "Flywheel" event and rode there too. If resizing wasn't so tedious again I would post.

ERC

10-23-2018, 04:39 AM

Yes Rhys, you can repost. I think I published one of that car a week or two ago.

Try this Rhys.

Install the programme from the link below.

Copy your full size pics to a new directory. (Important as you don't want to resize the originals.)

Go to the new directory on Windows explorer.

Either click on the image you want to resize and then right click which should give you the resize options. (I created two custom ones for TRS - 700 pixels wide for landscape, 700 pixels high for portrait.)

Or select the whole batch and resize the whole lot together.

https://www.bricelam.net/ImageResizer/

Unfortunately, we can still only load one pic at a time which is a real pain - then, often, the attachment pics all disappear from TRS anyway so have to be reloaded...

ERC

10-23-2018, 09:20 PM

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My new friend, Duncan Ricketts, works on ERA GP1.
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ERC

10-24-2018, 03:37 AM

Part of the Rob Walker parade
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From the previous winners parade - Lister Bristol
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You can always find one Gordon Keeble...
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Lister Chevrolet
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Spot the Kiwi link
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khyndart in CA

10-24-2018, 05:33 AM

Ray,
That is a real united nations group; 2 Englishmen, 2 Australians, 1 Swede, 1 South African and a Kiwi.
I would love to know more about this group.
Has anyone read this book ?
(Is that Bruce and Patti McLaren on the front cover ?)
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(Ken H )

Michael Clark

10-24-2018, 09:24 AM

Don't think so Ken

khyndart in CA

10-24-2018, 08:40 PM

You are correct Michael.
Perhaps it is Richard Attwood in a Lola Mk 5A in 1963 at Crystal Palace Park.

(Ken H)

ERC

10-24-2018, 09:22 PM

Just look at the crowds!

Another rarity!
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Gemini FJ
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Sadly, this Aston Martin didn't make race day either.
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This did...
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I managed via the interweb, to purchase an SMER kit of the Talbot, (used to be Merit) but noted that at Goodwood, there were two cars there - and the shades of blue were totally different. The kit was cheap but someone has already pulled many of the parts off the plastic sprigs, which may make painting more difficult. I wouldn't be surprised if some bits were missing either.
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