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Couple of young ladies at last month's C & C had never seen a TVR before...
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Prescott May 1970
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Geoff Broadhead (or should that be Broadside?) December 1992
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Not in the race programme...
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2019
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Amazing what you sometimes find under the bonnet of a 'Lotus' Cortina...
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One of Todd's collection of E Types, after a paint and spruce up.
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1993
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1971 Prescott
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1978 Donington - before they ruined it with wire fencing.
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1980 Donington - ERA R11B 'Humphrey'
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I wish I could accurately date this, but alas, I don't appear to have the entry lists or results from the annual Silverstone Winter Sprint Series of the early 1970's.
I do know that is Bob Brewer (TVR). Five Saturdays on the trot, often waiting for the mist to lift before we could practice. Mind you, huddled in the steamy Silverstone paddock café, with a big breakfast, having driven up for two hours after a 10 hour a night duty was always worthwhile. Competing for the day then heading back for a couple of hours kip before the 9pm start of the next ten hour shift, I could cope with - back then....
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1980
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1987 I think
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1991?
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2002 FoS
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2019 Leadfoot
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Not as sharp as they should be...
July 1980 - Lola Aston Martin
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1983
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1986
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1987
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1989
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1989 - I think
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1990
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1994
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1995 - I think. Before the ongoing brake fade, particularly at Whenuapai on about lap 5, necessitated a brake upgrade that in turn required an upgrade to 14" wheels.
A tip for those who think all Marcos had a plywood chassis. Down at sill level, if the under body is curved, it is a wooden chassis. If it is flat, like mine, it is one of the areas where the fibreglass body is attached to the metal chassis (85 self tappers in total).
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2019
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Remi110984
03-03-2019, 11:39 PM
Not as sharp as they should be...
July 1980 - Lola Aston Martin
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This looks like a Chevron B16 body. Do you know the story of the car? Where was the photo taken?
Whoops, my mistake Remi. I should have looked at the pic rather the slide! There was a Lola Aston Martin running. Donington - but one of the meetings where I took a lot of photographs but I think I lost my programme at the track. As I took so many, it has been a constant source of frustration. I believe it was July 19th 1980.
This IS the Lola Aston... (I had posted a paddock pic of it before.) I'm missing my evening coffee and I suspect I'm not quite as with it as I once was... Could also be because I have just had another birthday.
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The confusion in dating, for the Terry's of this world, are exemplified by the next two slides. One from 1979 and one from 1980. Same track, both Maserati 250F's. Both carrying #6...
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I'm guessing 27th March 1983. Pukekohe.
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1989
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1998 Whenuapai.
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the maserati driver like willy green
For Remi...
NSCC Cadwell 1980
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1996 Goodwood FoS
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NSCC Curborough 2004
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Goodwood Revival 2009 (pocket camera...)
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Roger Dowding
03-05-2019, 05:06 AM
ERC, more G cars than i have ever seen, cheers, Roger
And this car is - was the Chry-Baker - the owner was killed in the car in the late 1980's I saw it run at Ohakea in 1982/83 - need to check my notes.. Chrysler Chassis with Studebaker engine [ a straight eight ] from memory
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Spgeti
03-05-2019, 05:48 AM
Correct Roger and it was to be restored but I need to confirm that...
Remi110984
03-05-2019, 11:12 PM
Great Ginettas! Thanks!
And thanks for posting all those great photos, especially the old ones!
Another mix...
1970 Mallory Park
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1973 Mallory Park - McLaren
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1980 Donington
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Help required here for dating these two (there are several others but the quality isn't too good). The Lotus 23 and Tony's Ginetta carried their usual numbers, so that is no help whatever! Maybe Rex's TR7 V8 is easier to ID? Pukekohe of course.
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1989 December 10th - I think...
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Remi110984
03-06-2019, 06:34 PM
I would say it's from 1987, and before 2000. With a larger photo of the G4 I could check details
I would bet 1990
Thanks Remi. I need the actual date though, not just the year. Both the Triumph and the Lotus are carrying the yellow 'Pinepac' stickers, suggesting it wasn't long after Whenuapai, which was usually February or March, so my guess would be April/May.
Neither 1987, 1989 nor 1990 had Pinepac stickers, so maybe 1985, 1986 or 1988?
Remi110984
03-06-2019, 11:22 PM
My bad, it was 1991
It explains the Pinepac sticker
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Thanks so much Remi as it accurately dates quite a small pile of slides. As I acquired my Marcos April 1991, I assumed that as I was spectating, that it was before 1991! I do have a copy of the programme too.
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1990
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1990
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2019
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Otaua 2019. Too tied up at the moment with hospital visiting (I'm the one who is OK) to post much.
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A fine example of John McKechnie's trimming work.
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More of this anon.
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The Speedex has had the font end beefed up a bit and it now handles much better.
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Patiently waiting for something to happen from my vantage point, half way up the hill...
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After taking a few pics, back to my favourite daily coffee stop at 2pm for the first food of the day (and 500ml coffee) and another of Lauren's much appreciated witticisms.
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John McKechnie
03-12-2019, 10:48 AM
Thanks for the thumbs up Ray...its a superb Jag, Larry is a lucky man
Quick post before heading off to hospital again...
Otaua
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Larry's Jag. Reynard chassis...
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MG 6 Cylinder. L1?
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Could almost be a period shot...
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Walbrans' K Series engined Midget.
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Roger Dowding
03-13-2019, 04:56 AM
ERC, Thanks for the photos - look forward to more ;
Trust that the patient is on the mend.
your comment
" Patiently waiting for something to happen from my vantage point, half way up the hill.. "
The place has changed a bit but think have taken photo's from the same spot ..
New driveway beside the road - wasn't there " back in my day ". 1983 - 1990 ..
2019
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1985 -ish .. Phil Mules on the run
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Oldfart
03-13-2019, 07:05 PM
The MG 6 cylinder is a special built by Laurie Poolman, longtime MG enthusiast, all done at home in Waipu.
Thanks Rhys. So many MG models of that era that you do need specialist knowledge. I had a short drive in an L1 Magna at Curborough many years ago and the reverse gearbox layout was the same as this one. I met Laurie at Leadfoot. Clever man.
The number plate is obviously off his other car.
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Walbran Senior opened the runs as he was sharing the car with a Walbran Junior (Cam?)
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Not in the hillclimb, but on the hill.
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Despite having bought one of my MGFs last year, Barry opted to run the Rover...
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Roger Dowding
03-14-2019, 03:10 AM
" A fair mix of cars "
ERC, Ray what is the #14, Blue stripe over White sports car - can't quite get the badge - looks very nice too !!
P. S. have been looking at the background - all seems familiar, but with some access improvements - new driveways, still the flax bushes up through the wiggle part of the track [ Road ].
Appreciate the photos a lot because of my strong connection with the event in the 1980's -
Competitor in 1983,
Marshall 1985 - 87 ?
then
" Secretary / Organiser " 1988 [ '87? ]-90..
I did the MANZ permit and Franklin County Council part and dealt with early entries - with Reg Whittaker as the man on the ground talking to the residents, liaising with the Tavern Owner [ Tavern now gone,sadly ] and Frank Karl and others as Scrutineers.
Oldfart
03-14-2019, 05:26 AM
Roger, #14 is a Speedex, originally Austin 7 based.
Roger Dowding
03-14-2019, 05:35 AM
Roger, #14 is a Speedex, originally Austin 7 based.
Rhys, I like it .. must look that up - another project to get me stuck on the Laptop- as "her Indoors " would say, with my Obsession.. Motors and Motor Sport .. !!
Later *** have just joined the Dots ..... ERC posted a pic of the engine earlier in the thread !!
The Speedex was a Jem Marsh creation -Jem of Marcos fame. This one has a supercharged Austin engine. Run by Hamish Andrew. Hamish's parents both used to marshal, race and rally, for NSCC and I know them both well, as Liz was a tutor on knitwear when I was also tutoring at ATI/AIT/AUT (and I think, was at Glengyle Knitwear, part of the Bendon Group - unless my memory is playing tricks again.)
Kevin runs either a J2 MG or the Wolseley Hornet Special and was scrutineering. As mentioned on Nigel's thread, I bought a basket case Singer Bantam (off Kevin), but it was beyond my somewhat limited skill set, so I sold it on - as a basket case.
As regards Otaua, when the MGCC took over from Austin Healey, Derek Prior and his helpers did the permit side of things and I did the timing (radios and three or four watches, no telephone wire) and results - in the early days of a laptop and Star NX10 printer, so results all done by 3pm!
The Otaua Tavern which we used as our base is closed and somewhat run down.
Oh Drat. Attachments gone again. Will now have to find out which ones I posted before.
Reposted 15/3 9pm...
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Roger Dowding
03-14-2019, 10:18 PM
The Speedex was a Jem Marsh creation -Jem of Marcos fame. This one has a supercharged Austin engine. Run by Hamish Andrew. Hamish's parents both used to marshal, race and rally, for NSCC and I know them both well, as Liz was a tutor on knitwear when I was also tutoring at ATI/AIT/AUT (and I think, was at Glengyle Knitwear, part of the Bendon Group - unless my memory is playing tricks again.)
Kevin runs either a J2 MG or the Wolseley Hornet Special and was scrutineering. As mentioned on Nigel's thread, I bought a basket case Singer Bantam (off Kevin), but it was beyond my somewhat limited skill set, so I sold it on - as a basket case.
As regards Otaua, when the MGCC took over from Austin Healey, Derek Prior and his helpers did the permit side of things and I did the timing (radios and three or four watches, no telephone wire) and results - in the early days of a laptop and Star NX10 printer, so results all done by 3pm!
The Otaua Tavern which we used as our base is closed and somewhat run down.
ERC Thanks for the information about the Speedex and your involvement at Otaua too !!.
Otaua Hill Climb
Our timing system was very basic - small club with at the beginning very enthusiastic helpers which did fade over time affiliated Club Northern Sports and was horrified with some of their events - kids in cars at Gymkhana, as passengers, No permits they didn't realise a permit gave you Liability Insurance.
Will be part of my archives of events ..
I do hope to make the 2020 running .. Also looking at being at C and C in April,- with a bit of planning .. we can have another chat !!
Cheers
P S your post #2780 - can only see one of the six photos - the MG Midget " OPLOCK ".. others missing
Still hospital visiting... Earlier post updated.
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Roger Dowding
03-17-2019, 05:38 AM
ERC, Thanks for the photo's - Almost like being there.
Good selection of vehicles - including the Roycroft Bugatti ..
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Hospital visiting over, but bogged down sorting out slide dating.
1987 February
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John Billington's MG Montego Turbo. December 9th 1989. Thanks to Milan for confirming the date.
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MGCC Puhoi Hillclimb November 1990. MG Montego Efi number 1.
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Hamilton 1994 - Remi should see his Ginetta behind the Paton Ford.
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This is what you call ugly... Goodwood FoS display of old futuristic cars.
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I managed a fair few photographs on this weekend and thankfully, the weather was kind.
1987 - February 1st - I think...
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In terms of the most photogenic action pics of single seaters, the Cooper Bristol would be in my top 5.
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2003 Sadler
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Spotted in a front garden in Queenstown. I have asked before if anyone knows exactly what it is - or was, but zero responses, so reposted now there is a larger audience.
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Auckland Domain Hillclimb 2009
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Paul Wilkinson
03-22-2019, 04:18 AM
Hi Ray, Your Queenstown car looks to be a Puma.
https://i.imgur.com/BCPdbQzl.jpg
Roger Dowding
03-22-2019, 06:07 AM
The Special .. Puma !! I see the name " Cantwell Cars " on Paul B's post - was that Frank Cantwell ?? - a racer of some note too !!
Thanks Paul. That looks to be correct. Interesting the ad says '100mph', so what underpinnings? May give google a burst, though I'm sure there was a Puma produced in South America (Brazil, not Argentina!) I saw at the London Racing Car Show, must have been around 1965/66.
Paul Wilkinson
03-22-2019, 07:59 AM
According to Patrick Harlow's book, the chassis was a bespoke unit. The only engine mentioned is the prototype's A35. Bear in mind that it could also be a Tiki or Falcon as they were all derived from the UK Ashley. I went with the Puma because of the distinctive sidelights on the Puma brochure matching the Queenstown car. There is a bit more info on the NZ Cars - A Cottage Industry thread on this site.
100mph from an A35 engine would be a little ambitious, without a little more than the twin carb kit offered!
Apart from the other Legends, such as Bryce Platt, Dale Mathers, John McKechnie, Ray Williams, John Tomlin, Chris Watson etc. (and Melissa Morgan!), I was delighted to meet someone I have been looking forward to meeting for ages. A first time catch up with Milan Fistonic. When people start digging into the history of cars or drivers, Milan's work is invaluable and he has made a huge difference to speeding up my filing.
Just a couple of pics from Sunday. A very sensible move, mixing the front-engined or non-disc braked Formula Juniors, with the Hooters Vintage series.
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Are those wings really period correct?
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Struggling to upload pics at the moment. Will return later.
Presumably a sprint at Pukekohe. Not sure of the date but could be 1988?
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Roger Dowding
03-26-2019, 10:05 PM
Struggling to upload pics at the moment. Will return later.
Presumably a sprint at Pukekohe. Not sure of the date but could be 1988?
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Certainly no earlier than 1987 when the Aluminium numbers on Black number plates were replaced by the Black Numbers on White Metal [ Tin ] plate staring at NA .. My new Fiat Uno purchased in later 1987 had an NG plate NG4909 ..
My thoughts too Roger. When trying to date the slides, you have to grab every clue that you possibly can.
Can anyone confirm the dates here? Given that it is the same race number... Pictures 2 & 3 I'm guessing at September 1986 but is picture #1 1983?
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Mr Grimwood trails an Alfa
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2019 Took some time to sort out the make here...
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Steve Day grabs a snooze on the way back down the Leadfoot hill.
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Roger Williams fails the audition for a remake of the Dukes of Hazzard
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Roger Dowding
03-27-2019, 05:26 AM
Ray " ERC "
Re ; ' My thoughts too Roger. When trying to date the slides, you have to grab every clue that you possibly can. '
Yes indeed, I know that a lot of my Pukekohe photo's were the incorrect meeting - and as I had given all my Pukekohe programme's 1966 - mid late 1970's away and all my Motorman Magazines 1964 - 84 was unable to reconcile pictures with events.
-some were Ok as had written on the back of the prints when the film was processed - somehad dates on the packets too, a few had process dates on the negs and prints - mainly when I borrowed my grandmothers Leica camera and took Colour pics.
Thank Goodness for people like Milan Fistonic on TRS and Facebook pages [ Milan's archives are amazing ] and Graham Woods on a couple of facebook pages too.
TRS is a bit disjointed with all the threads but it is a great collection of information.
Graham seems to have programme's from late 1950's through the 1960's and on - and Motorman Magazine back into the early 1960's
Whenuapai 1990. Car needs no introduction.
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Icebreaker 2002
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2019 The programmeless Hampton Downs January meeting.
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James Watson's Swift gains a bit of much needed colour. All black cars don't appeal photographically
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More legends
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Date required for these three please. A TACCOC meeting, possibly end 1985, or the beginning of 1986. I was a spectator and took my wife to be and her number 2 son, but no programme. Fixing this date will also fix several other pics from that annoying undated folder.
Had I had my accident back then, avoiding the upturned TR6 in the middle of the track, I would have escaped with the car totally intact, as concrete barriers situated so close to the inside of such a fast corner are not really necessary.
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Mike Westall's Jag NOT carrying #99, which may help.
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Another Leadfoot pic 2019
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2019 Legends
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Sports cars seem to have changed... Identification isn't as easy as it once was, or maybe as you get older, you need stronger clues, not badgeless lookalikes?
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Re-posting these pics - because I felt like it...
Mallory Park 1956. I was 10. Dad's pics.
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Racing Car Show 1966. I was 20 - almost. Borrowed a friend's TLR camera.
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Mallory 1966. I was just over 20 and borrowed Dad's camera. Denny Hulme in Syd Taylor's Lola.
Little did I know then, that 46 years later I'd be having a deep conversation about Denny, with Greta Hulme, sitting on the steps of The Basilica of Sacré-Cœur in Paris!
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More from Legends 2019
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James Watson eyes his mount for the day, Gary Love's Ralt RT4
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Tony Roberts - McLaren M10B
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January - Chevron
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Legends 2019. Mike Sexton waits whilst the Gemini warms up.
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The Bursons are probably going to put more race laps on the BRM P207 than BRM did... What a joy hearing a V12, even if they are sensibly not revving it to its limits. As one of the helpers pointed out, getting bits for a Cosworth DFV F1 engine isn't too difficult. Not so, getting bits (any bits) for any BRM.
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Spgeti
03-31-2019, 09:57 PM
Yes Ray I agree, the BRM just sounded glorious and was a delight to see in the pits with the engine cover off.
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Roger Dowding
04-04-2019, 02:12 AM
Love that Wyong Motors Monaro - tribute - the Bruce McPhee Barry Mulholland winner Bathurst 500 1968
[ Mulholland drove one lap to satisfy the regulations - a slow lap as had to get going and then slow down to pit. Have a Trax model in 1;43 of the car ]
Falcon won in 1967 and Peter Brock and Des West in 1969 again in a Monaro.. The real start of the Ford versus Holden era's ..
Nice Austin A40 too ERC, thanks had one in 1968 -71, great driving car.
January - Tiga
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FF Mondiale
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Special/replica at Leadfoot
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Legends 2019
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The website is playing up a lot today... Third attempt at loading.
The Rover SD1s...
Donington 1982
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Pukekohe 1985
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1987
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2004 Taupo
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2005 Teretonga
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2015 Barry Hare
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Oldfart
04-05-2019, 05:27 PM
Tiga driver also in the Lotus 11.
Sports cars.
June 1970. Different pic from last time, but still Bill Viney, who used to tow this Healey with his other one! Hence the number plate.
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1971 Prescott - a real Cobra.
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At the May 1977 Donington reopening. Rod Leach's Cobra and XK.
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July 1980 Donington - again
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I don't think I have uploaded this one before. Apologies if I have. Elva.
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Ellerslie 1983 - my first.
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Whenuapai 1985. Scorpion?
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Goodwood FoS 2002.
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2016
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2018. Bourne town centre. A pic of Raymond Mays and the ERA. It might be some form of Heritage centre but as it was closed on the Sunday and raining, with no parking nearby, I didn't get a chance to go inside.
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2018. The Haynes museum at Sparkford's Red Room - again. Due to the layout, not easy to get any variation in views of the cars for photographic purposes, but as my aim is building a library of pics rather than trying to create photographic art, I'm OK with that.
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Still mixing it as I continue with a more comprehensive detailing of the slides, which usually means stripping them and noting the film ID number (if any) and the sequence number. With previously mounted slides, in glass, they also need stripping and the glasses cleaning. Not a quick job.
Could be Western Springs or Ellerslie!
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1990
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1991
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khyndart in CA
04-10-2019, 06:10 AM
Ray,
Wonderful photo of those three magnificent Jaguar E-Types
plus in the background are some favorite types of cars that I have owned such as the Minis and a BMW 2002 / 1600 ?
Thanks for the memories,
Ken
Some of the extremes...
Spotted on the streets of Nottingham, 1970 or maybe a bit later based on the number-plate.
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Who could ever forget the British Super Saloons of the 1970's and especially Gerry Marshall in 'Baby Bertha'.
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Probably not quite as well known as a competition car... Some form of oval racing that was not of the biff and bash variety. Displayed at the British F1 GP of 1977.
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Crossley at Western Springs
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To the left of the leggy blonde twins is a Pontiac.
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Leadfoot whoopsie 2019
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Cadwell Park 1980
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Western Springs 1990
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Ellerslie 1991
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I wonder if this is the same Daimler that is now owned by Mr Mexted which was at C & C last month?
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1967 Shelsey Walsh
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1988 Western Springs
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1989 Ardmore
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1991 Ellerslie
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Working hard on the slides that are mounted in card, plastic or glass - or even unmounted but should be! The glass ones have been dismantled and the glasses polished. I'm still struggling to date some of them.
1991 Ellerslie again. Arch Mini Club supporter polishing his Cooper S.
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Masters class winner I believe
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1970 Mallory Park
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Hiccups uploading again... Couldn't even access the site.
Ash Cleave's Morris Special at Prescott 1971
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Cadwell Park - a track that holds special memories for me, including my first ever sprint event (last in class). Next time, two years later, blitzed the class with the same car.
Then again in 1977, was comfortably leading the class in the Jubilee Hillclimb, 998cc Cooper engined Mini, until a friendly RAC Steward tipped me the nod, to say that if I won, the other regulars in that class, somewhat peeved at being beaten, would protest, because I hadn't got a front bumper on the Mini.
I borrowed one from a spectator before the final run and again, blitzed the class for the most satisfying of all class wins.
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1983 Car show at Henderson
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I THINK this might be February 1st 1987. Happy for it to be confirmed.
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Ian Richardson's Chevy Corvair 1975.
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1985 - I think, October 27th.
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1991
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2019 March
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Andrew Metford
04-20-2019, 10:18 AM
Masters class winner I believe
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Ernie and Sue Martin's TF. Long time MG Car Club stalwarts, they still own the car.
September 1986 - I think
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Taken at Ardmore 1989, but I have no idea what the car is - or the engine for that matter! Can anyone please help?
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March 2019 - and this Mini sounds so sweet.
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A range of Aston Martins
Goodwood FoS 1996
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Monaco 2012
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Donington 2014
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John Dennehy is best known as a top class Aston Martin owner and driver. Leadfoot 2017
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Still diving into the old slides.
The late Roger Williamson came to prominence driving this well turned out Ford Anglia. April 1970. Say it quickly and you can easily forget it was almost 50 years ago...
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Another taken before his time was Tony Brise, seen here doing a demo at Mallory Park, August 1975, just 3 months before losing his life in the Graham Hill plane crash.
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I may have posted this before but I still have no idea of the make of car. Snapped at a Silverstone test session early 1977. If anyone knows what it is, PLEASE let me know!
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NSCC Cadwell again, June 1980
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I think, September 1986.
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Whenuapai 1987. Little did I know that 4 years later, I'd own one of them...
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Yes, a green Alfa. Ex Dennis Poore
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Ardmore 1989 - but can someone please ID either the car or the engine?
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1990
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1991 - I think - but judging by the above pic, might even be 1990.
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ERC,
your unkown car in 2822 above, is it a Sana F atlantic testing at silverstone
Thanks 928. I don't know how you managed to ID that, given that they only made a couple - and I must confess, I'd never heard of them.
I'm intrigued to know how you knew! I'm assuming it ran in the Shellsport Series, which included F1, F2, Atlantic etc. and also explains the presence of the Brabham BT44 which also ran in that series now and again and was at the same test session, along with the Dolomite Sprint and the de Cadanet Lola.
Given the lack of signage or numbers, probably only just completed.
Thanks. All I need to do now is pin down the date and work out why I was there. It might have been between finishing my training course and starting work in my current career, so I am guessing March 25th, two days before the Sana was at Snetterton, but it could even have been earlier.
Thanks so much 928. That has been an enjoyable, but very time consuming and educational trawl through several websites - something that a certain critic wouldn't really understand.
khyndart in CA
04-26-2019, 10:31 AM
I am fighting the flu and waking at weird hours !
A little Sana info;
The Sana in Formula Atlantic specification.
The first Sana was a F Atlantic chassis that appeared in the Spring of 1976, it was designed by Gordon Fowell, designer of one of the 1973 Chris Amon-driven F1 Tecnos and like the Tecno it was built by John Thompson The new car was driven by Cyd Williams and it showed some promise with a 2nd place finish first time out. As a result of this success a F3 version was constructed, the F Atlantic versions continued to do well reasonably driven by Cyd Williams, Terry Perkins and Nick May. It was later raced in Libre races in the North of England as the Barton JTB3.
The F3 version of the F Atlantic car appeared only once, driven by Larry Perkins at the Monaco GP support race, it qualified on the last row of the grid and was retired by Perkins due apparently to its evil handling. Evidently Fowell had decided that his suspension design was correct and therefore didn't fit any roll bar adjustment. The F3 design was the same as the F Atlantic car with its full width nose and pronounced wedge shape provided by the monocoque and bodywork. Power came from a Brown-Ford engine that wasn't reckoned to be the most powerful around.
Drivers
1976 Terry Perkins.
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Home > Atlantics > Results > British Formula Atlantic > Brands Hatch 4 Apr 1976
Indylantic Championship Round
Brands Hatch, 4 Apr 1976
Results Laps Time/Speed
1 Tony Trimmer Lola T362 [HU18] - Ford BDA Swindon
(see note 1) 50 0.37.45.6
95.34 mph
2 Cyd Williams Sana RD9 - Ford BDA Eden
#5 Harrison's of Birmingham/Graham Eden Racing
50 0.37.57.2
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(Ken H)
hooray,i got one right.
sorry, i was around motor racing as often as possible during the 70's in the uk. just remember thinking it was not styled it just happened.
The 1977 car (my picture) was probably driven by Tony Rouff (USA) who finished a very creditable 6th at Snetterton, March 27th - but as a Formula 2 car, tailing the F5000's. Fields seemed to have been a bit erratic in the Shellsport series and the Sana was replaced by a Ralt. Rouff took out a win later in the year, but there weren't many F5000's running that day.
In 1967, I had moved south and purchased my first car (at 21 - it wasn't cheap running a car when wages were so low!) so I was then able to start going to events on my weekend's off (alternate weekends, though usually called in on one of the two days, making it a 13 day working fortnight, as we never ever got the midweek rest day's off).
One of the earliest solo 4 wheel trips was a second trip to Shelsley Walsh, though I had managed Mallory Park on two wheels.
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Three years later after my short lived marriage split, I was off to Prescott.
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The annual Racing Car Show at Olympia each January was a real favourite. This was 1971.
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Silverstone British GP 1977
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Donington 1979. A bit out of focus unfortunately. I hadn't graduated to an SLR at that time.
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the donington photo, was that at the aurora meeting with the F1 cars?
I don't think so. April 15th and it was a Classic meeting.
I took a lot of pics at the 1980 July meeting, several have already been shown on here. Apologies if any are repeats. Not quite as sharp as I would have liked but many are from the pile of slides previously rejected, often because without a telephoto lens of any sort, I was too far away, but being able to crop before scanning, sometimes makes for a half decent pic.
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Curborough 1982. Single seater Landar
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Still wading through old slides.
NSCC stalwart, John Stonard's Pirana
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Donington Museum and another 'lost' exhibit - 1988.
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1991 Ellerslie. Richard Atkinson, previous owner of my Marcos to the left.
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1994
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Chris Watson's TR7 V8 - 1994
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Taken through the fence at Ferrari's test track - Villeneuve junior 2012. Police were controlling traffic as so many people knew about the test and invaded the area just to catch a glimpse. Amazing.
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Fast forward to clear a few from the 2019 pile. January C & C
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Soft top Mini and genuine soft top Morris Minor
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Legends March 2019
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Paul Halford's Autosud was going better than ever and ran away with the race I watched.
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Always good to see a less common car. This variety is what makes these series so much more interesting than any one or two make/model series. Not so sure about the wings suddenly appearing.
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John McKechnie
05-02-2019, 10:51 PM
Ray- wing was on the Monaro since October 1969.
Rogers Torana had it since the 80s.
Blues wing can be found on Phil Schuberts XA Coupe going back to early 90s. Made same time as Craig Pullmans one Just transferred from one car to another.
None of the above are suddenly appearing.
Anyone comment on Mark Allens Firenza..been running like this with us since 2013 at least.
Wings were always feature of Sports Sedans..Alfetta, Algie Monaro, Shewiery Mustang, Park Marina and many more
Spgeti
05-02-2019, 10:57 PM
Ray- wing was on the Monaro since October 1969.
Rogers Torana had it since the 80s.
Blues wing can be found on Phil Schuberts XA Coupe going back to early 90s. Made same time as Craig Pullmans one Just transferred from one car to another.
None of the above are suddenly appearing.
Anyone comment on Mark Allens Firenza..been running like this with us since 2013 at least.
Wings were always feature of Sports Sedans..Alfetta, Algie Monaro, Shewiery Mustang, Park Marina and many more
The Firenza was running a wing when owned by Russell Due. They are very much part of the Historic Sports Sedan Group.
Alan Hyndman
05-03-2019, 01:05 AM
Ardmore 1989 - but can someone please ID either the car or the engine?
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If it's any help, I'd put money on that being a C3 Corvette with a supercharged V8. How many of those were running around in 1989?
Thanks guys. Just that the wings looked new or I hadn't noticed them before.
Thanks Alan. If you are prepared to put money on it, that is all I need At least I can file it! Spent far too many hours lately trying to date slides. Sometimes you get the information almost as a side issue. Dating Silverstone and Curborough Sprints is a tough one and there are still one or two Pukekohe queries outstanding. About 95% only relate to dates.
Back again to Prescott 1971
Hepworth. I think that they have recently re-commissioned the BRM CanAm.
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April 1973 - just a very short time after the V12 E Type was launched - Curborough.
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Croft 1977 - Davrian
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Donington 1980
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Funny that the TR3 was my childhood favourite sports car, yet I have owned many MGs, but never a Triumph!
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Bruce302
05-05-2019, 06:06 AM
Loving the pics Ray, Thank you for sharing them.
Spgeti
05-05-2019, 06:28 AM
Yes and I love the TR2/3’s as well. Always wanted one.
This might be February 6th 1983, but it has to be a guess.
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Donington Museum 1987
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Lola FJ 1988
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Whenuapai 1989 - again, I think. Was it the same Brabham wearing #57, that appeared later with a fresh paint job?
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Still working my way through old slides... About 3 - 4 hours a day/night.
Shelsley Walsh 1967
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Racing Car Show 1971
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Donington 1980
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Now to the frustrating Pukekohe meetings, where dates are so difficult. Are these three all on the same date? I'm guessing December 11th 1983 - but I could be way wrong. It could well be much earlier, even as early as February 1983, as I obviously wasn't flagging, or much later say 1985, when I went just once as a spectator, with my wife to be.
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Milan Fistonic
05-07-2019, 04:21 AM
Still working my way through old slides... About 3 - 4 hours a day/night.
Now to the frustrating Pukekohe meetings, where dates are so difficult. Are these three all on the same date? I'm guessing December 11th 1983 - but I could be way wrong. It could well be much earlier, even as early as February 1983, as I obviously wasn't flagging, or much later say 1985, when I went just once as a spectator, with my wife to be.
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This one could be December 11th 1983 as 24 and 8 tie in with the programme.
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Milan Fistonic
05-07-2019, 04:50 AM
Graham McGregor in the Continental Car Services Golf GTI #2 was in the Sports Sedans & Clubmans Saloons on March 27th 1983 and Geoff Welson in the Avenger GLS #57 was in the Production Super Car Series on the same day but they don't appear in the same race in the programme. From the Motoring News report of that meeting it seems there was some mixing of the two classes but I can not confirm that.
Tony Alderton E49 Charger #49 was entered in the Production Super Car races on March 27th 1983.
I guessed right! Thanks again Milan. I did have it down for December 11th. Looks as though Veen Smith hadn't graduated to the Commodore!
You might also have sorted the March 27th meeting.
This is from a pile of Dad's stuff, but I have zero details as to when or where. I doubt I will ever know.
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1973
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1986
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1987
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Ardmore 1989
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Pukekohe 1989
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I think this is February 1992
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Taupo 2003, Gordon Burr's Alfa about to be flagged away in the ERC handicap.
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I'm a bit of a theme park junkie and the 'Tram Tour' at Universal Studios has always been a favourite. There is a section of the tram ride that passes a display of cars from the movies and TV, hence the Ferrari, September 2018.
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Legends 2019 just to give a bit of variety.
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I didn't take the bazooka lens this time...
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Donington 1980
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January 1983?
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1989 Ellerslie
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1993 Whenuapai
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Auckland Domain 2005 - Ken Williams. Graeme Collie behind with his Merc
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Donington 1988
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Ardmore 1989
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Leadfoot 2019
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Chicane founder Maurice O'Reilly's former Porsche
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Goodwood 2018
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Caffeine & Classics September
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January 2019
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January Caffeine & Classics
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Another mix...
1983 Pukekohe
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1987
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Can someone please ID this car for me? 1989
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1991 SkidMark Parsons.
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1992 - Possibly a TACCOC practice day.
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2000 Goodwood Revival
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Another trawl through recent scans!
My first saloon - following on from the 850cc minivan. I bought this as a modified twin carb 850cc mini that had obviously been well built as it went surprisingly well. I owned it twice.
Sold it to get married. Stupid boy... Bought it back again just over a year later after that marriage failed, before moving on to a 998cc Cooper.
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Prescott 1971. This may have been Basil Dagge's Imp which was a very quick car.
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Front end posted previously. Mini based Peel Viking.
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1975 - Tony Brise again in the Embassy Hill.
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Magnum Aston Turbo - John Pope Special
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Undated Silverstone test 1977. I'm guessing now it was the end of March.
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Davrian at Croft 1977
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I think, February 6th 1983, at Pukekohe
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Bert Dove's immaculate TR3a Whenuapai 1993
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Hamilton 1994
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Goodwood FoS 2004
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Caffeine & Classics December 2018
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From the various and sundries pile...
St Petersburg 2014
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Austin J40 pedal cars - 2018 and 2016
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The most boring aspect of Goodwood, bar none. With just 20% of the paying spectators watching as Nigel Fotheringham-Ffoulkes tries to out out-pedal Amanda Twitterington-St John, 80% of the spectators around the track, who have in many cases travelled hundreds (or even thousands) of miles and paid huge money to watch some motor racing, have nothing at all to look at other than damp tarmac, as not all areas have a big screen. This annual farce takes place on the Saturday AND Sunday. If you are at the outer reaches of the track, there isn't even a classic car park to wander around either.
A total waste of time, but if you do have a decent vantage spot at the fence, you daren't leave it to go and grab a bite to, eat as the crowds in popular spots are huge and a prime spot has to be retained at all costs!
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Hampton Downs January 2017
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Shelsley 1967 - again
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Silverstone 1977
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Donington 1980
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Pukekohe 1983
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This was a revelation when it first appeared. Mallory Park April 1970.
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Note the body mods just 2 months later.
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Brian Martin's BM8
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Kit car day at Mallory 1987
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Whenuapai 1990
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1970 Nitus Bedford - Prescott
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Formula 3 Lotuses. Flash paddock facilities back in 1970...
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Ellerslie 1992
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Hamilton 1994
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A fraction of the Pre '66 car park Goodwood 2016.
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Another mix...
1967
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1978. My best pal since the age of about 8, went through a marriage break up and the house proceeds were split, so first he opted for an MGC GT - which I thoroughly enjoyed as a passenger, or driving. It wasn't long before he upped to this Lotus Europa. In the background is my then lodger's Lotus Elite.
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1980 Cadwell again.
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Lola Aston Martin at Donington
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2018
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Gaydon
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Roger Dowding
05-23-2019, 04:07 AM
Ray this photo of the BSA at Pukekohe. Do you know what the car is behind it The 1920's Vintage.
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Could it be the 1922 Lorraine Dietrich owned by Ivan Bennett, Jim Bennett of Furi Cars fame older brother.
This photo from Kwaussie shows the Bennett Boys and their cars Jim with Furi 14 centre, presume Cliff in the other car left.
Second thoughts not the Lorraine but here is the photo anyway - will go on the Dunedin thread later
Notes from an Otago Daily Times article that the photo [ cropped ] appeared " The retired Bennett brothers helped each other building this trio of vehicles. Photo by Gerard O'Brien "
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Bentley I think Roger. If it had been a bit more unusual, I might have snapped it.
Roger Dowding
05-23-2019, 11:55 PM
Bentley I think Roger. If it had been a bit more unusual, I might have snapped it.
Ray, thanks had started the post and thought similar without having the photos side by side as it were !,
Interestingly that Blue Sports Car left in the photo, is Cliff Bennett's built from a wrecked Lotus Europa that burnt out, aluminium body by Cliff and re-powered with a 1600 Fuego motor - modified [ hotted up ] which Cliff and Jim worked on and worked over - the story on the Dunedin thread.
Curborough 1982. From memory, Arthur Mallock at the wheel.
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Again from memory, possibly a young Nick Whale, who went on to better things.
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Pukekohe March 1983
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Donington 1988
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Manfeild 1990
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Ellerslie 1991. Interesting that Jay Leno claims the SP250 is one of his favourite cars.
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Steve Holmes
05-24-2019, 02:43 AM
This was a revelation when it first appeared. Mallory Park April 1970.
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Note the body mods just 2 months later.
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So neat to see colour photos of the BL Group 2 Rover P6. I believe there were a couple of these cars built? One of them somehow ended up in Australia, owned by Jim Smith, and raced as a Sports Sedan. I think Smith raced it once in NZ also?
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Correct Steve. Link to the page on the UK site. I have been supplying them with photographs for some time:
http://www.modbase.info/#/rover-p6/4593476643
1995 Otaua - Kieft
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2005 Teretonga
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2018
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2019
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Dad's Merit Alfa. Sadly a broken/missing steering wheel and screen
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chaindrive
05-25-2019, 05:22 AM
Luv the old Merits. Nothing like them now
Agree chaindrive. Airfix kits were 2/-, Merit were 7/6, Revell E type Jaguar (a fine model - with chromed fittings) was 15/-. Nowadays, apart from the Tamiya Jaguar Mark 2 (another fine model, in road or race trim) nothing much has appealed.
The two Merits with engines, (Alfa & Talbot Lago) have been re-released as SMER. I bought the Talbot on Ebay last year but someone had taken many of the parts off the plastic sprigs so I haven't bothered to assemble it.
Probably need your suggestion of a set of Herb Deeks wire wheels to make it worthwhile.
Steve Holmes
05-25-2019, 08:00 AM
1970 Nitus Bedford - Prescott
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Any more info on this car?
Steve Holmes
05-25-2019, 08:02 AM
The 1977 car (my picture) was probably driven by Tony Rouff (USA) who finished a very creditable 6th at Snetterton, March 27th - but as a Formula 2 car, tailing the F5000's. Fields seemed to have been a bit erratic in the Shellsport series and the Sana was replaced by a Ralt. Rouff took out a win later in the year, but there weren't many F5000's running that day.
In 1967, I had moved south and purchased my first car (at 21 - it wasn't cheap running a car when wages were so low!) so I was then able to start going to events on my weekend's off (alternate weekends, though usually called in on one of the two days, making it a 13 day working fortnight, as we never ever got the midweek rest day's off).
One of the earliest solo 4 wheel trips was a second trip to Shelsley Walsh, though I had managed Mallory Park on two wheels.
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Three years later after my short lived marriage split, I was off to Prescott.
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Anyone know whose is the McLaren?
Patsy Burt's McLaren was blue and white. (Pic published earlier).
Car 158 I thought was 1970 Prescott but double checking through, it seems as though it must have been May 1971, in which case it was well known hillclimber Roy Lane's McLaren M10B - but with 5,500cc according to the programme, not the usual 5,000cc.
Johnty Williamson's Cooper Chrysler was packing a 7,200cc motor!
Mike MacDowell (who I met in NZ a few years ago at a McLaren Trust do in Newmarket) was driving John Cussin's Palliser Repco 3000cc but I don't have a pic of that. If it was yesterday, I'd probably have a couple of pics of every single car running!
Loton Park August 1973 and Roy Lane again, but McLaren M14D, 5,700cc
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Steve Holmes
05-26-2019, 10:21 PM
Patsy Burt's McLaren was blue and white. (Pic published earlier).
Car 158 I thought was 1970 Prescott but double checking through, it seems as though it must have been May 1971, in which case it was well known hillclimber Roy Lane's McLaren M10B - but with 5,500cc according to the programme, not the usual 5,000cc.
Johnty Williamson's Cooper Chrysler was packing a 7,200cc motor!
Mike MacDowell (who I met in NZ a few years ago at a McLaren Trust do in Newmarket) was driving John Cussin's Palliser Repco 3000cc but I don't have a pic of that. If it was yesterday, I'd probably have a couple of pics of every single car running!
Loton Park August 1973 and Roy Lane again, but McLaren M14D, 5,700cc
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Thanks guys, I sent a message off to Allen Brown, race car historian who has the excellent Old Racing Cars website: https://www.oldracingcars.com/
Allen confirmed it was Roy Lane from 1971: https://www.oldracingcars.com/hillclimb/results/uk/1971/prescott/may/
I have been to Allen's site before (he has posted a couple of my pics too) but I couldn't find a specific link to the Hillclimb pages, so sent him a message. I do have some stuff he'd appreciate such as some notated programmes listing non-starters, compiled by the NSCC race secretary or officials, at one or two F5000 races at Mallory Park.
Rare F3 Ginetta at Curborough October 1980
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Gaydon 2018.
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I'd had this 2018 pic in the not-sure pile since September but thanks to Google, was able to confirm that it is a Horstman, built in Bath. Taken at one of my favourite UK museums, Haynes at Sparkford
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John Hudson's BMW 2019. He called at Caffeine & Classics, en route for Hampton Downs, January.
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Leadfoot 2019
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More from the slide pile... Just about finished logging and scanning the slides, but now started culling the not so good pics (out of focus, scratched, over/under exposed and duplicates) during the evenings. Then daytime it will be back to scanning negatives...
Racing Car Show January 1971.
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Cadwell 1980
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I think, September 11th 1986
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2002 Ellerslie but no idea what this special is, but someone worked hard on making the panels for it. if anyone can put a name to it, I'd appreciate it. Hans Compter's Jowett alongside.
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September 2002. Someone caused a nose to tail at the hairpin exit during an earlier race hence the lopsided Marcos right front. The TR6 is the one that at a later meeting, sheared a hub and ended up upside down just in front of me, as I was flat yakker through the mountain, resulting in extensive damage to the bonnet and the rear of the car's bodywork and a damaged left front suspension, bouncing off the concrete as there was no run off on the inside of the corner, despite there being plenty of room... Poor, badly designed circuit upgrade.
Rod Hemmings' well used TVR and Stuart Clumpas, MG Midget just behind.
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JT in his race days... Derek Prior on the watch, Brian Skudder flag, CoC Stan Edwards observes.
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2002 - There were rumours of a return to the tracks recently, (Greg Bellingham) but nothing so far.
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The café at Hampton Downs (outside) has this large glass wall that adjoins the Toyota Race Series workshop. Which begs the question, what happens to all the TRS cars when they are pensioned off, given that there is a new chassis for next season? We seem to have had a myriad of single seater race formulae over the years, but how many do we see in formula libre races?
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Leadfoot 2019 again. Probably now my favourite NZ event.
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Milan Fistonic
06-02-2019, 05:37 AM
2002 -
The café at Hampton Downs (outside) has this large glass wall that adjoins the Toyota Race Series workshop. Which begs the question, what happens to all the TRS cars when they are pensioned off, given that there is a new chassis for next season? We seem to have had a myriad of single seater race formulae over the years, but how many do we see in formula libre races?
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I had lunch in the cafe last week. The TRS workshop was filled with last season's cars, most stripped of their decals. The new TRS car was there complete with halo. One of my lunch companions had heard that the original TRS cars, like the one hanging on the wall in the cafe, were locked away in a warehouse in Onehunga. Whether they are still there he did not know.
Oldfart
06-02-2019, 07:09 AM
Yellow #64, post 2877, is the superb restoration, by Louis McNair of the outboard powered Spider, originally built (and crashed) as a single seater.
As is often the case, a Mix of Pics...
Variety bash, 1989 but not being very up with cars of this era, what is it?
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1994, Solar car demo at Whenuapai
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Leadfoot 2019. Not easy grabbing shots from some parts of the hillclimb.
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Whilst other areas are a lot easier
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Roger Dowding
06-03-2019, 05:27 AM
" Variety bash, 1989 but not being very up with cars of this era, what is it? "
Car is a Pontiac - mid 1960's - 1966 ..
similar to this - Note Rego DD4170 is no longer valid.
This Mark Dawber in Dunedin in 1984 in a " Bonneville " two door Saloon - Coupe .. - " MarkD " is a TRS member - his own photo.
Mark still has the Car - a restoration project when I last heard several years ago.
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Another Hil Climb - Edit found out - location Houghtons Bay Hill Climb, Wellington -Wellington Car Club - they are often playing cricket on the ground below ;
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And my model of a Coupe - two door version a Matchbox Model /Toy from the time
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And yes I put all those stickers /transfers on a 1;72 scale toy as a teenager, part of my Matchbox collection that I kept about 20 of them.
The Faller AMS transfer came from my brothers 1;72 Slot Car set, that we had with my HO/OO Railway set and all the Matchbox Toys .. Supposed to be the current 1966 NASCAR Racer .. even put the " steel straps" on the back window -one has fallen off over the 50 years since done.
Sold or gave away a lot more
Thanks Roger.
February C & C 2019
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Legends March 2019
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Not sure who is aware of this museum proposal for the UK, but I sincerely hope it goes ahead.
http://www.attractionsmanagement.com/index.cfm?pagetype=news&codeID=340412
Oldfart
06-04-2019, 12:57 PM
At the same time Bicester is expanding even more to do something very similar!
Bicester is a great home for specialist workshops, but not normally open to the public during the week, for casual visitors I was told. (I enquired last year.) However, the more that is located in that general area the better. Makes it a great place to visit! Weekends there are usually races to visit, but I'm running out of places to visit during weekdays.
I have just started a new web page, publishing scans of race entries from old race programmes, following requests from UK TVR owners doing some research.
Early days and just older UK stuff so far.
http://www.monza.org.nz/UK_entries/entries_01.htm
Alan Hyndman
06-06-2019, 11:51 AM
Another Hiil Climb - car and location unknown ;
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The venue is the old Houghton Bay Hillclimb, Wellington - looking back down towards Martin Luckie Park in the background. The Wellington Car Club clubrooms were (out of shot) to the right for many years, off Russell Terrace (which joined onto Mount Albert Road).
Roger Dowding
06-06-2019, 11:49 PM
The venue is the old Houghton Bay Hillclimb, Wellington - looking back down towards Martin Luckie Park in the background. The Wellington Car Club clubrooms were (out of shot) to the right for many years, off Russell Terrace (which joined onto Mount Albert Road).
Alan H, Thanks for that - have seen other photos of the Houghton Bay events - believe it went back into the 1950's !!
Paul B
06-09-2019, 05:43 AM
Roger
That is still a great road today, and it would be great to have that brought back again as a hillclimb. Alexandra Rd and Shelly Bay are events that are still run today by the Wellington car club.
Cheers
Been busy (and still busy) with the scanning of old UK entry lists/programmes. I've done Mallory Park programmes from 1956 to my last visit in 1976 and now making a start on Silverstone plus various other tracks. Fascinating reading some of the race entries - cars and drivers.
Just to keep this thread rolling, a bit of a break from the time consuming scanning and web page build.
Back to 1994
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2019. Not who you think driving, but a now carless rent-a-driver - Bruce Manon. Going very hard too!
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New ERC driver - driving what looks to be the Scaffolding Special...
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New car
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2019...
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Part of the Mexted fleet
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I laughed at this!
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Well known V12 Jaguar
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62319
Very smart.
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Stewart's E Type Jaguar has undergone a freshen up.
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62329
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What is this doing in here you ask?
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This is why. A V8 tucked underneath.
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Caffeine & Classics again tomorrow. Always something new.
Roger Dowding
06-29-2019, 03:51 AM
" Caffeine & Classics again tomorrow. Always something new. "
Enjoy Ray, I think John Vevers who has an Austin 3 Litre - the Landcrab 1800 derived Saloon will be there to and probably GeeBeez with his early MX5. I will miss it again .. damnit.
Love that 1938 Ford Coupe,
but the Japanese People Mover .. Why ??,
" Because you can "
- Compliance would have been a nightmare I would think, can't cut up moderns like you could in the 40's / 50's to the late 70's..
Wow! What turnout this month. They split C & C with the Hampton Downs meet on the same day, but this fantastic free show just grows and grows. Photos to follow. I'm buried in scanning old UK race programmes at the moment. What a revelation that is proving to be as I never realised there were so many one offs or little known cars running.
What is equally surprising is that cars such as Diva, Tornado, Peerless and Berkeley were so prolific on the tracks at the time. I also didn't know that the 8100cc CanAm BRM ran in a couple of clubbies at Croft!
Also interesting that over the years, few now bother with competing with cars up to 850cc, 1000cc, 1200cc, 1300cc etc, as they used to. Also that apart from the modern Radicals, Juno's etc, and Lotus 7 copies, so few cars could now be classed as sports racing cars and driven to and from the events.
Apologies if any of these have been shown before, but when I first started posting on this site, I didn't keep a good track of what I'd posted. Little did I know then that I'd still be posting, 820,000 views later...
Richard Seaman 1937 Donington
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1948 Silverstone
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1996 Goodwood Festival
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Used to love this outclassed Porsche when cars didn't have to lap within 107% of the pole sitter. Donington 2004. Where is this car now I wonder?
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Monaco 2012 Scirocco BRM
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Techno
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Oldfart
07-03-2019, 12:16 PM
Wow! What turnout this month. They split C & C with the Hampton Downs meet on the same day, but this fantastic free show just grows and grows. Photos to follow. I'm buried in scanning old UK race programmes at the moment. What a revelation that is proving to be as I never realised there were so many one offs or little known cars running.
What is equally surprising is that cars such as Diva, Tornado, Peerless and Berkeley were so prolific on the tracks at the time. I also didn't know that the 8100cc CanAm BRM ran in a couple of clubbies at Croft!
Also interesting that over the years, few now bother with competing with cars up to 850cc, 1000cc, 1200cc, 1300cc etc, as they used to. Also that apart from the modern Radicals, Juno's etc, and Lotus 7 copies, so few cars could now be classed as sports racing cars and driven to and from the events.
Shenstone District Car Club custodians of Curborough is alive and well with classes for just about everything. One of the most popular is unmodified up to 1400cc. Car of choice is MG ZR. The club owns a number which they loan to folks who want to get into the sport. I need to check out the deal!
I used to compete at Curborough regularly and well remember running events there too, for the Nottingham Sports Car Club. Hard work. Leaving home at 5am to drive past Curborough to pick up the keys; back to unlock. Overseeing signing on by my ex-wife. Running either one or two cars -1000cc Mini Cooper, later, Wolseley Hornet 998cc later still, with a tired pre-rebuild 1293cc, plus a 1300cc Allegro then an Allegro Equipe. Commentating, printing out results on an old Gestetner duplicator on the day, rather than posting them; locking up; returning the keys, getting back home, somewhat knackered about 8pm!
I had many class wins at Curborough in a popular class I introduced. Up to 1300cc road modified saloons cars. When I managed a run at a fraction under 40 seconds, the timekeeper disallowed it as no one in that class had ever gone under 40, so I had a re-run - and did it again! Tricky track Rhys, with turn 1, the long sweeping left hander being the key to a fast time - and the hairpin.
Happy days, but getting 2 practice and 2 or sometimes 3 runs, on a 900 yard course was expensive, compared to what I paid in NZ for my first race at Pukekohe 1985.
The first 998cc Cooper - with a later temporary fibreglass front end, after a season 1, 1971 crash at Silverstone...
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Like the woodsman's axe, the engine and wheels were swapped to another Mini...
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...and little did I know that I'd eventually graduate to a Marcos.
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...and that engine and those wheels rolled over into the Hornet 1977. Later, fitted with a 1293cc engine. That engine I had rebuilt after setting a new class record, but never ran until I brought it to NZ and it now lives with Mike Lucas. Although the Hornet was being restored in 1982 with new metalwork underneath, I accepted the job in NZ and sadly, the shell had to be scrapped. My long term plan was to convert it to a Broadspeed replica, as I felt the Hornet/Elf was a better base.
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The understairs temporary trophy shelf with the AMMC Dunlop class trophy for up to 1300cc Road Modified saloons, 1979 season.
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The Equipe I brought to NZ, 1983.
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Trouble uploading - and busy with the UK race entry scans. NOT away cruising
All 2019
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Great plate! Obviously a real Denny Hulme fan.
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A few issues connecting and also uploading...
Caffeine & Classics - yesterday at 8:30am
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...and at 10:30am
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Another huge turnout with the overflow car park still filling up as I left.
Away now for a week.
An interesting newcomer to the Caffeine & Classics July meet.
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There was a comprehensive data sheet with the car, but a replica based on one I could only vaguely remember.
Roger Dowding
08-08-2019, 05:04 AM
An interesting newcomer to the Caffeine & Classics July meet.
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There was a comprehensive data sheet with the car, but a replica based on one I could only vaguely remember.
Putting a early 60's look on a 60's car - I like it. Has a SCCA look about it
Oldfart
08-08-2019, 06:08 PM
Ray, I really wish I could see what you post. After about halfway down every single page the whole thing turns to custard for me.
Kevin Hirst
08-08-2019, 06:58 PM
Ray, I really wish I could see what you post. After about halfway down every single page the whole thing turns to custard for me.
Yes, quiet often have the same problem, not alway's though, then can't escape from post.
I also have the same problem - at times, even on the PC. Site freezes and even coming out altogether, clicking on the favourites, it won't even reconnect.
There are times when I can't edit or correct and times when having uploaded the pics, they then disappear and have to be reloaded later.
Maybe the site/thread is now too big or too popular to cope? Sorry Oldfart, but there is nothing I can do. This is with Steve and his internet guy.
Maybe I should cut the posts down to no more than 4 pics per post instead of 6? That might put less strain on your computer's memory? I'll try from now on and see how it goes. More pages, but fewer images.
chaindrive
08-09-2019, 01:50 AM
Kevin-----Had the same but hitting the refresh seem to fix it
Back in 1974, this rare, Nottingham built Brough Superior was trailered to the ROF (Royal Ordnance Factory) to be restored by the apprentices. The part restored car is now on display at the Nottingham Industrial museum.
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2019
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March C & C
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Caffeine & Classics - Fords
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Jaguars
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Germany's contribution
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and from Italy
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Austins
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Roger Dowding
08-16-2019, 02:48 AM
Something for the BLENZ group " British Leyland Enthusiasts New Zealand " Facebook page there, Ray ? Good to see.
So many Facebook Groups, so few hours in the day! I'm already hooked into about six car related ones. That is enough thanks Roger.
Roger Dowding
08-16-2019, 09:54 PM
So many Facebook Groups, so few hours in the day! I'm already hooked into about six car related ones. That is enough thanks Roger.
Know the feeling -There are many out there - I must belong to over 20 -" keeps me off the streets ".
Flitting about a bit as I come across stuff I have either scanned recently, or tripped over.
1994 Whenuapai
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Mike John alongside John Sampson 2002
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More C & C 2019
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Just for Spgeti
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Spgeti
08-17-2019, 10:23 PM
Very nice Ray, might have to change my name as I have sold my Alfa. Time to move on and go back to BMC.
Kind Regards
Aha. You have seen the light? Might have to change the name to tryp or mushyp?
Spgeti
08-18-2019, 02:39 AM
I was thinking of “Smurf”......or “MOWOG”
I like “Tryp”
Roger Dowding
08-18-2019, 05:08 AM
Very nice Ray, might have to change my name as I have sold my Alfa. Time to move on and go back to BMC.
Kind Regards
You can't be " BMC BOY " - that is taken Bruce, perhaps just " BMC " The Bruce Motor Company
Spgeti
08-18-2019, 06:33 AM
I wasn’t going to change my non de plume, but changed my Marque....
Roger Dowding
08-18-2019, 09:05 PM
I wasn’t going to change my non de plume, but changed my Marque....
:cool:
For you Bruce, and Ray too !!
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Spgeti
08-18-2019, 11:49 PM
Ray would be pleased that sitting in the shed is my little Riley Elf, owned by John Fitzpatrick ( no not the famous one) and it raced in the Telecom Festival and is listed in the other thread.
Good to hear Bruce. I unfortunately had to scrap two Riley Elfs just before Trade Me started. The 1300cc engine I brought from the UK is now with Mike Lucas and the 998cc part reconditioned engine is with John Hudson.
Not sure if I still have a box of bits (many brand new) for the Elf but I do have various bits and pieces including a lovely pair of 1 1/2" SUs on a Mini manifold, Cooper remote gear change, two sets set of glass, boot floor cover panel etc.
A mix
First is a professionally taken slide (ie not mine). Can anyone identify the second car?
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Teretonga 2005
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2018
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2018 Goodwood - of course
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Spgeti
08-19-2019, 05:23 AM
Good to hear Bruce. I unfortunately had to scrap two Riley Elfs just before Trade Me started. The 1300cc engine I brought from the UK is now with Mike Lucas and the 998cc part reconditioned engine is with John Hudson.
Not sure if I still have a box of bits (many brand new) for the Elf but I do have various bits and pieces including a lovely pair of 1 1/2" SUs on a Mini manifold, Cooper remote gear change, two sets set of glass, boot floor cover panel etc.
Hi Ray, I will PM you.
Roger Dowding
08-19-2019, 06:20 AM
Ray would be pleased that sitting in the shed is my little Riley Elf, owned by John Fitzpatrick ( no not the famous one) and it raced in the Telecom Festival and is listed in the other thread.
Bruce, your Avatar has changed to suit the new car and your new name should be " BMC ELF " well done Mate, need some photos now !! ,
Roger Dowding
08-20-2019, 05:16 AM
ERC, a guy in the UK has a Riley Pathfinder - year and details unknown at this stage but it came with this Number Plate.
He says DVLA has been unable to assist - understand many " Local Body " records have been lost / destroyed ! - seems a bit like NZ did with obsolete / expired Rego's .
Can you help
Seem to remember you know quite a bit about the system and where a Rego could be from.
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Cheers..
My knowledge NZ based like this.
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That rego plate was originally issued in Surrey. British Motor Museum Heritage should have the build data for the Pathfinder as Riley was under the Nuffield/BMC/Leyland banner.
https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates
Roger Dowding
08-20-2019, 08:30 PM
That rego plate was originally issued in Surrey. British Motor Museum Heritage should have the build data for the Pathfinder as Riley was under the Nuffield/BMC/Leyland banner.
https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates
Briiliant Ray and thanks - hope it didn't involve too much work .. Cheers Roger
A bit of colour to brighten up the day.
2000
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2011
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2012
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De Thomaso
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Recreations and replicas. A photographer's nightmare... Not so much that they are in anyway non-photogenic, far from it, but often, you just can't tell from a photograph. If I ever publish a book of photographs, it will have to carry the disclaimer that pics may or may not be of original cars.
Hamilton 1994
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Auckland Domain 1997
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Goodwood 2004
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Pukekohe 2005
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2009
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2011
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2013
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But wait, there's more...
2014
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2016
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2018 - shame about the wheels...
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Hope you are still able to view these Oldfart. Let us know when it drops out. back to real cars.
1990
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2018
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Hampton Downs café.
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2019
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Oldfart
08-28-2019, 06:37 AM
No issues at all so far :)
Not the best of Dad's Donington pics.
1938
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2019
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F1 Renaults
1977 - British GP in the days when paddock access wasn't just for the elite.
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2002 - Goodwood Festival of Speed - note the crowds in the background. If you can't make the Revival, because the timing doesn't suit, the FoS is worth a visit, but for the various cars around. Viewing the action, as with any hillclimb, is very restricted, but the static displays and paddocks are worthwhile.
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The central sculpture/display outside Goodwood House is always impressive.
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2004 - Goodwood FoS
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Engines... (date refers to photograph, not the engine!)
2018 - Alta
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BRM V16
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2011 BRM
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2015 BRM
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2008 - Chevron
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2019 Suzuki
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McRae
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1937 - Donington. Varzi. Note the track safety, with a St John's ambulanceman ready for action... plus the well dressed flag marshal. At least my dad was on the safer side of the track.
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Oldfart
08-31-2019, 05:40 AM
The previous page stayed available all the way to the last post. I can see them all Ray :)
I have been trying to spot where some of the old Donnington photos were compared to how it is now, has the track changed that much? Of course nobody there is any help now!
There are various references and comparisons between the original track and the current one Rhys, but you might have to dig into some of the older books. Generally, the track follow the original pretty closely, but with so much vegetation cleared, I'm not sure about several places, from the photographs I have.
The bottom straight, after the Craner Curves was shifted to the right, to avoid Starkey's bridge, as obviously, it was far too narrow for a modern track. The original hairpin (Melbourne) is in Derbyshire whereas the rest of the track is in Leicestershire. We all know about the hassles of dealing with one council, let alone two.
Tom stuck to just Leicestershire, where the majority lies. I seem to remember even the Melbourne Loop track wasn't without external hassles.
Way back in about 1971, the Melbourne loop was sealed and opened and many club and kart events were run on there. It now appears to be the site of the Sunday markets.
Not a bad article:
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/october-2002/81/donington
Oldfart
09-01-2019, 06:15 AM
Thanks Ray, I need to go up on a day when nothing is happening and take a long walk!
MGCC day at Pukekohe.
Dave Mallin's MG BV8 (an original car, not a conversion) came to a halt at the hairpin on the first familiarisation lap. Brakes locked on. Master cylinder failure.
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As an aside, Mal Clark's By'Gone Autos will be Be'Gone Autos in three weeks. Sad that our nearest garage looking after classics will be no more. So many well known cars have passed through By'Gone over the years, some total rebuilds, some conversions and many basic maintenance. Mal rebuilt my Marcos engine and the Rover V8 in the Magnette.
Roger Dowding
09-02-2019, 04:08 AM
MGCC day at Pukekohe.
Dave Mallin's MG BV8 (an original car, not a conversion) came to a halt at the hairpin on the first familiarisation lap. Brakes locked on. Master cylinder failure.
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As an aside, Mal Clark's By'Gone Autos will be Be'Gone Autos in three weeks. Sad that our nearest garage looking after classics will be no more. So many well known cars have passed through By'Gone over the years, some total rebuilds, some conversions and many basic maintenance. Mal rebuilt my Marcos engine and the Rover V8 in the Magnette.
" Be'Gone " Sad indeed. knew Mal back in the early 1970's when he ran a Mark 3 Zephyr in Northern Sports Car Club events,[ way before the P6B Rover and the Mark Parsons TR7 V8 and others ] when I was running a Mini 1971 -74 then the Yellow Sprite 74-75 and on the the Triumphs GT6 and TR4A.
Will be sad, pity he didn't have a young fellow as an apprentice who could now take it over.
That is what happened with Absolutely British in North Los Angeles, that started in the early 1980's, and is now run by " The Apprentice " Eric Grunden, who ' Ken H ' knows well.
Where to now Ray ?? for your car(s) !!.
khyndart in CA
09-02-2019, 06:59 AM
I hope that was not a Moss Motors supplied brake master cylinder !
Most of the failures are due to the lack of brake pedal clearance that would cause the brake pressure to build and eventual lock-up.
Hard to prove that issue so another master cylinder is supplied under our wonderful 2 year warranty coverage.
Also Roger,
Eric G is closing his shop soon and moving to Northern California, he will be missed.
(Ken H)
As the original owner was Harley Norager and he was around, I gather that the master cylinder was probably one of the few parts of the braking system that hasn't been renewed recently!
Grant Kern with one of his cars - the '24 Hours Lemon' survivor.
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...and Mrs Kern with Cream Cracker
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I wrote a response to Ken's comments about By'Gone, but the post disappeared!
A few more from the MGCC day. Also invited were Jaguars & Minis and as they were part sponsors, the Sampson Capris. As it was Father's Day...
Nev Thompson
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and Glen Thompson - who had issues with a new gearbox oil seal.
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Sampson Senior
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and a Sampson Junior
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MG L2 Magna. Sounded nice as did...
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Doug Dingle's MGF.
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Clerk of the Course and recently retired Club Captain, the hard working Darryl Bretherton. The new Club President is Andrew Walbran and Club Captain, Paul Walbran, continuing a long time Walbran profile within the club. Paul was a bit shocked at the changes and requirements and responsibilities of officials running events these days, at a permanent race track...
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Most of the Jags were modern but one or two were being driven with enthusiasm and sounded great.
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Good to see cars out there in 100% road trim, just having the cobwebs blown out.
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A couple more from the MG day to come, but on a bright and sunny Sunday morning and just coming back down to earth after a cataract operation, colours are now so vibrant (according to the left eye anyway), that I thought a block of yellow might be appropriate.
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Triumph 250
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May as well post some reds...
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Under the bonnets
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Roger Dowding
09-08-2019, 10:54 PM
This is a Devon Healey 100 V8 powered I saw for sale on the net some years ago. It had a tubular subframe welded to the original chassis and a fibreglass body. Probably a nice quick car that handled pretty well. The V8 would have been a similar weight to the 100/4 engine with a lot more power!!
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Just looking at these photo's BMC BOY and ERC - this car looks similar to the " Hawaiian Corvette Special " that Mike Ryan - ex pat Kiwi living in California found and is restoring, when he is not working on others cars ..
The Hawaiian - photos from Mike Ryan - and a drawing of it.
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as found
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the drawing
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Was actually looking for ERC's photos from the Telecom Classics - still doing that !!
Roger Dowding
09-09-2019, 02:39 AM
note from post #481
" Possibly Steve Whitren or maybe even Andrew Thorne in the Rapier, but no date "
ERC the photo ;your ref on the image " 185 Untitled-4 Sunbeam
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Think the car is /was owned by Owen Fausett - he raced at the Telecom Classic Motorfest both years.
In 1993 as race #159 or #59, and in 1994 as Race #54 - the other Sunbeam in 1994 was John Boyd in #54 -
I think that John Boyd's car was a similar colour scheme.
Owens car in 1994; the #59 covered up racing as #54
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The entry list from Telecom
1993 Saloons Gp 1. John Boyd in Raper #54
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Owen in Rapier #159 or 59 - probably the same numbers as on the car at Pukekohe - so maybe your photo is 1993 Ray ??
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The 1994 event entry list with both John Boyd and Owen Fausett
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Remember seeing Owen at Whenuapai in the early 1990's as well -
I knew him initially from working at ANZ Bank New Lynn, from 1985 -87 and again late 1988 to early 1992 - most of our " meetings " the conversation was on cars with the smaller part on the " business " - think I actually helped him buy the Rapier.
[ my numbering of the photos as " Telecom Motorfest 1994 # ?? 1993 " when for the 1993 event details. is confusing but suits my system - or lack of ?? ]
PC thrown a real wobbly. Got to wait now for 'Geeks on Wheels', Thursday…
Owen passed away last year and he was a regular poster on the 'TradeMe' motoring message board, usually having a dig at any 'Morris Garages' car, including my own.
Tech couldn't sort the issue so just taken the PC away. OS aggro. May be back in a week's time... Grrrr.
Although I have back ups of the 50,000 pics, work on the more recent stuff - which is when they are filed, a bit trickier.
Next PC will have the Operating System on a totally separate drive from the programmes and data, rather than a partitioned drive as at present. Thought I was being smart with the drive partitioned "C" for programmes, "F" for the data. Technology has moved on - again. Data will all be saved OK but very frustrating as I don't download emails onto the laptop. I can read and reply, but they are ony downloaded to the PC.
May just have to watch some live streamed Goodwood - but not staying up through the night!
Hampton Downs café - with the glass wall through to the Toyota Race Series workshop.
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A mix
Multi Union - 1938
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Thinwall Special - 2000
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Lola 2009
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Riley - Monaco 2012
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1996
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2012
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2015
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2016
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From the speed show 2019
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Formula Juniors - one of my favourite single seater race groups - particularly the front engined cars.
Ausper
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Condor
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Gemini
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Autosport
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Bond
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Alexis
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Elva
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Alfa Dana
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A new season kicked off with Icebreaker. Not a 100% classic/historic meeting.
Just a sample:
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When the flag dropped, the BSA Special was the only car you heard!
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Wheeee!
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Not in the programme... presuming also an 'International'. Watching them into the hairpin, it looked to be a bumpy ride for the karts!
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khyndart in CA
10-02-2019, 11:42 PM
Ray,
The go-karts have changed a bit since I first saw them compete in a field near Te Aroha in 1959.
Note the designer of this US model in 1959.
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A certain Mr. Frank Kurtis who knew how to turn out a fine product.
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(Ken H photo..)
Red single seaters - but it took 20 minutes of internet searching to find out what one of them is, as once again, not in the programme, nor on the lists I have. I always have this problem with several classes of single seaters. Needless to say, it is usually the late entrants who have cars I can't readily identify! If I was looking to spend even a modest amount on sponsorship, (which I am not), it certainly wouldn't be on a driver who was so disorganised that they couldn't even get the car entered in time.
Why don't all series post a list of their current drivers, cars and race numbers? Even the lap times only list the driver's name, rarely the car. Even though I am no longer tied to the ERC Series, Chris and I have tried to ensure that the website is virtually up to date with a list of entrants - past and present, with a photograph of mine where possible.
http://www.ercrace.nz
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Anyone want to buy a Formula Junior Gemini? (Non standard steering wheel.)
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Mike Sexton had a slight hiccup with his Gemini.
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A query. Nash/Austin Metropolitans. As I understand it this was car designed by Nash, built by Austin, using Austin engines.
OK. So initially, left hand drive for the USA, so no problems. It's a Nash Metropolitan.
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Later, they did right hand drives for the UK, Austin Metropolitans.
However, in NZ they later sold right hand drive but badged only Metropolitans.
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Filing photographs, I therefore file LHD, USA, Nash.
But, do I just bite the bullet and file all RHD's as Austins? Not that it matters to anyone of course, or should I file them all as Austin's or all as Nash's?
Given that looking at them, the only differences appear to be which side the steering wheel is located.
Even our British badged cars may be made in Europe and Japanese cars built in England as were some Citroens years ago.
Interesting to know what the main criteria is and how others see it.
John McKechnie
10-03-2019, 09:51 AM
Its a Nash,Campbell Motors sold rhd Nashs, part of NZ history. ..end of story
Kevin Hirst
10-03-2019, 08:44 PM
Its a Nash,Campbell Motors sold rhd Nashs, part of NZ history. ..end of story
Yes, only knew them as Nash Metropolitan's sold by Austin agent's.
Thanks for that. In the UK, we only knew them as Austins - other than enthusiasts who knew a little of the history. I'll therefore file all those pics taken in NZ as Nash's and pics taken in the UK as Austins - even though all were built in the UK!
John McKechnie
10-04-2019, 03:15 AM
And they are still the most distinctive styled car...i love these Metropols still and a worthy addition to any garage....just like the Bullet- nosed Studebaker
Roger Dowding
10-04-2019, 06:08 AM
a Metro [ politan ] at Greerton - no not a Mini Metro ..
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C and C in Auckland.
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Left Hooker and Right Hooker at C and C .. same day - the Right Hooker same car as above - had the hardtop on ..
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MET 59 - Carjam says this ....
" Year: 1959
Make: NASH
Model: METROPOLITAN
Colour: Red
Second Colour: White
Submodel: 561
Body Style: Convertible
VIN: 7A8DE000705094693
Plate: MET59
Engine No: 15A-N-L83084
Chassis: HE6-94693 "
AF6299 - this
" Year: 1958
Make: AUSTIN
Model: METROPOLITAN
Colour: Red
Second Colour: White
Body Style: Saloon
Plate: AF6299
Engine No: IH192068
Chassis: 77171 "
Those Chassis and Engine numbers are very different - was the LHD built in the USA ?? and the RHD in the UK ???..
Confused ?? I am .. John Mck - they all have the Nash red " N " badge !!
Roger Dowding
10-04-2019, 06:10 AM
Its a Nash,Campbell Motors sold rhd Nashs, part of NZ history. ..end of story
John Mck see my photos - the N badge not an Austin badge but ????
Roger Dowding
10-04-2019, 06:28 AM
A query. Nash/Austin Metropolitans. As I understand it this was car designed by Nash, built by Austin, using Austin engines.
OK. So initially, left hand drive for the USA, so no problems. It's a Nash Metropolitan.
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Later, they did right hand drives for the UK, Austin Metropolitans.
However, in NZ they later sold right hand drive but badged only Metropolitans.
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Filing photographs, I therefore file LHD, USA, Nash.
But, do I just bite the bullet and file all RHD's as Austins? Not that it matters to anyone of course, or should I file them all as Austin's or all as Nash's?
Given that looking at them, the only differences appear to be which side the steering wheel is located.
Even our British badged cars may be made in Europe and Japanese cars built in England as were some Citroens years ago.
Interesting to know what the main criteria is and how others see it.
AE6481 - according to Carjam - which we know is not perfect " perfick " ..as David Jason would say !!.
" Year: 1958
Make: NASH
Model: NASH
Colour: Green
Second Colour: White
Body Style: Saloon
Plate: AE6481
Engine No: N/A
Chassis: 83031 ".
It is a right hooker and with that Rego would have been in NZ from new - It was 1958 .. However Carjam says AF6299 was not - someone must have saved some old plates ?? .
" AE6481
Plate Type: Standard
Origin: NZ New
Used as: Private Passenger vehicle
Cause of Latest Registration: New
NZ First Registration: 13-May-1958
Cancellation Date Of Registration: 01-Nov-1996 "
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" AF6299
Plate Type: Standard
Origin: Import from
Used as: Private Passenger vehicle
Cause of Latest Registration: New
NZ First Registration: 02-Nov-1976
NZ Last Registration: Get Full CarJam Report
Was Registered Overseas? Yes "
I don't think any were built in the USA. They were all Austin powered and built in the UK.
Just had a quick dip in my old Observers Book of Automobiles - two or three of them. Neither Nash Metropolitan, Austin Metropolitan, nor 'Metropolitan', are listed! In fact, Nash isn't listed at all.
Goodwood 2017 - John Cleland - Nash...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NX-9OpV8rs
John McKechnie
10-04-2019, 10:51 AM
I grew up in NZ all my life, always the Metropolitan was called a Nash.
Good luck finding a Kiwi who calls a Metropolitan an Austin....no bribing just to get a statistic
You could see the similarity to the big Nash saloons also available here in RHD.
We all knew they had BMC motors in them, but they were a Nash.
Austin were A90 Atlantics with Flying A emblems on, none of these on a Metropolitan.
Call them what you like in England, but here , because of the distinctive American styled body, they were Nash.
Dont worry about your overseas books...look at the series of car cards as a give away in the mid 60s at petrol stations in New Zealand- not a library reference book -you will see Nash Metropolitan powered by Austin motor.
Remember - the latest ZB HOLDEN Commodore is a body built by Peugeot, but even in Australia it is seen and accepted as a Holden .People recognition gives it the identity
Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....break out the orange sauce
Milan Fistonic
10-04-2019, 06:17 PM
Listed as a Nash Metropolitan Hard Top in this Price List from a 1957 NZ magazine.
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nigel watts
10-04-2019, 06:26 PM
I grew up in NZ all my life, always the Metropolitan was called a Nash.
Good luck finding a Kiwi who calls a Metropolitan an Austin....no bribing just to get a statistic
You could see the similarity to the big Nash saloons also available here in RHD.
We all knew they had BMC motors in them, but they were a Nash.
Austin were A90 Atlantics with Flying A emblems on, none of these on a Metropolitan.
Call them what you like in England, but here , because of the distinctive American styled body, they were Nash.
Dont worry about your overseas books...look at the series of car cards as a give away in the mid 60s at petrol stations in New Zealand- not a library reference book -you will see Nash Metropolitan powered by Austin motor.
Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....break out the orange sauce
Yep, that's my recollection as well. I always thought [back then] that they were american made.
Milan Fistonic
10-04-2019, 09:02 PM
...in 1954 [Austin] started to make the little Metropolitan coupes and convertibles for Nash. In style these were Nash Airflytes in miniature, with 3-speed gearboxes. They were powered initially by the A40 engine and later by the 1.5-litre A50. Production continued until 1961.
From: The Complete Encyclopedia of Motorcars.
As Milan states, they were built by Austin and only by Austin and only in England - but for Nash! When sold in England, later on, they were sold as Austins. Cars sold in NZ were Nash's.
khyndart in CA
10-04-2019, 11:26 PM
You folks might find this site interesting.
http://www.classic-car-history.com/nash-metropolitan.htm.
Question. What does a Nash Metropolitan have in common with this DeKon Monza ?
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Answer; The clutch slave cylinder.
Ken H.
A mix...
2003 - Dome
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2018 - de Thomaso
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2019 - the ex Bernie Hines Lola - without a side panel, due to a slight hiccup on the Saturday
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Swift - Gary Rush
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Clearing a backlog of images...
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Roger Dowding
10-06-2019, 05:16 AM
I grew up in NZ all my life, always the Metropolitan was called a Nash.
Good luck finding a Kiwi who calls a Metropolitan an Austin....no bribing just to get a statistic
You could see the similarity to the big Nash saloons also available here in RHD.
We all knew they had BMC motors in them, but they were a Nash.
Austin were A90 Atlantics with Flying A emblems on, none of these on a Metropolitan.
Call them what you like in England, but here , because of the distinctive American styled body, they were Nash.
Dont worry about your overseas books...look at the series of car cards as a give away in the mid 60s at petrol stations in New Zealand- not a library reference book -you will see Nash Metropolitan powered by Austin motor.
Remember - the latest ZB HOLDEN Commodore is a body built by Peugeot, but even in Australia it is seen and accepted as a Holden .People recognition gives it the identity
Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck....break out the orange sauce
Orange Sauce it is John Mck .. happy for them to be a Nash..
John Mck see my photos - the N badge not an Austin badge but ????
Actually Roger, the badge is an 'M', not an 'N'... Should have gone to Spec savers?...
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To the best of my limited Knowledge, there is no Nash badge either!
Roger Dowding
10-07-2019, 06:15 AM
Actually Roger, the badge is an 'M', not an 'N'... Should have gone to Spec savers?...
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To the best of my limited Knowledge, there is no Nash badge either!
You got me, You got me !! - as the Caltex ad goes !! Cheers Ray .. M - etropolitan
John McKechnie
10-07-2019, 07:50 PM
maybe..Murican Motors..............?
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And this is Foggy's Bathurst winner 2019... Well done Foggy. (October 13th)
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Does anyone have a working Video 8 handicam (analogue tape, not digital) that I can borrow or buy? My Sony CCD-TR202E has the jitters and I have a pile of tapes that I would like to convert to digital.
khyndart in CA
10-08-2019, 12:04 AM
Ray,
If you lived close by I might be able to help you.
Ken
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